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Title: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Mishmaat on January 25, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
This is a mundane post, but that's a horrible tasting Kosher wine.

Wine connoisseurs please recommend great Kosher wines! Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on January 25, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
How can wine be not kosher?
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on January 25, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
I have never had it, but I know it's a Concord wine, so it probably isn't great.
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 25, 2014, 08:56:16 PM
Rashi Claret 750ML Usually ~ $10. Very good.
  (Mevushal and non-Mevushal available).


http://www.onlykosherwine.com/Page.asp?ID=pgProductPreview&ProductID=161483
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Yerusha on January 25, 2014, 11:12:41 PM
A pair of English pratts extolling Israeli wine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj3TqnN_yOY
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Havok on January 25, 2014, 11:39:42 PM
I've never had a Jewish or kosher wine that I know of. I drink more hard liquor
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on January 26, 2014, 12:11:00 AM
Well... since no one responded, some grapes are crossbred, and may go against Torah law...  This would fall under the mixing of different species. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Sveta on January 26, 2014, 12:45:25 AM
How can wine be not kosher?

It has to do with idolatry. In the past many nations used wine to worship their gods. Hashem wanted to separate the Jewish nation and wine away from the nations and their idolatry wine.

So, for a wine to be kosher, the production must be supervises by a Jew who is shomer Shabbos and must supervise that all the ingredients are kosher. (Including when wine needs to be kosher for Pesach). And it should have a hechsher.

 According to the process of the wine, it is either cooked or not cooked. If the kosher wine is cooked, then a non-Jew may touch it or a Jew who is Mechalel Shabbat. And the wine is still fit to be drunk by Jews. But an uncooked Kosher wine that is handled/touched by a Gentile or a Mechalel Shabbat Jew is spilled and no longer able to be drunk by Jews. Cooked wine is called mevushal.

I know someone who can recommend some good Kosher wine. I believe Kosher moscato.

I have Manischewits wine and it's not that good but not as terrible as another kosher wine I had at a Shabbat dinner (I forgot the name of it). So, I believe there are worst things than Manischewitz. I think Kosher moscato is the way to go. Rashi is ok too

Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on January 26, 2014, 12:45:39 AM
Rashi.

In Pennsylvania, wine is sold by the Bolshevik state owned PA Liquor Control Board (AKA "state stores".). But private religious stores are permitted to sell wine with no sales tax as well. The state stores usually just sell Manischewitz which is high in alcohol which is ironic since they are supposed to not support getting drunk. But the private Jewish stores sell Rashi wine which is not too alcoholic and therefore tastes better as well. I but the Rashi Pink Concord wine. The bottle has the Rashi synagogue in Worms on the label. I don't know how anyone can like high alcoholic drinks, especially vodka which tastes like rubbing alcohol.

http://www.judaism.com/display.asp?ecat=wBDEH&gclid=CKmJ3MCSm7wCFRPxOgod70MAvw

(http://www.judaism.com/judaica-img/rashi-light-pink-concord-W1347a.gif)

Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on January 26, 2014, 12:53:17 AM
Well... since no one responded, some grapes are crossbred, and may go against Torah law...  This would fall under the mixing of different species. Correct me if I'm wrong...


Some wines may have non-kosher coloring such as blood or insects. But the main part reason is because kosher wine can only be handled by Shomer Shabbat Jews in the entire production.

Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on January 26, 2014, 01:30:10 AM
The Torah prohibition is wine used by Gentiles in idolatry (Yayin Nesach). But by Rabbinic extension all Gentile wine is forbidden (Stam Yeinan).

Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 26, 2014, 01:46:38 AM
This is an awesome wine and low cost as well- 

Elvi Sintonia Sangria

http://www.onlykosherwine.com/Page.asp?ID=pgProductPreview&ProductID=175324&CategoryID=8553
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 26, 2014, 01:51:03 AM
This one is good but not as good as the above 2 by me, a little more stronger as well. 

Don Alfonso Cabernet Sauvignon

http://www.onlykosherwine.com/Page.asp?ID=pgProductPreview&ProductID=162211&CategoryID=8553
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 26, 2014, 02:01:55 AM
Another awesome one

Dalton Canaan Red

http://www.onlykosherwine.com/Page.asp?ID=pgProductPreview&ProductID=161547&CategoryID=8553
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Sveta on January 26, 2014, 02:21:38 AM
I asked and was told to check out: https://wwws.onlinekosherwine.com/sitemap.php

And Baron Herzog was recommended.
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on January 26, 2014, 03:07:42 AM
I asked and was told to check out: https://wwws.onlinekosherwine.com/sitemap.php

And Baron Herzog was recommended.

 Where do you live? They charge for shipping as well (probably everyone does). I would better recommend (depending where you are especially if in NYC and surrounding areas) to take down the names and go to a store.
Title: Re: Manischewitz Wine
Post by: Sveta on January 26, 2014, 03:01:42 PM
I would better recommend (depending where you are especially if in NYC and surrounding areas) to take down the names and go to a store.

That's a great idea. Fortunately, I am able to get some kosher wines where I live but I am very close to LA where I can get a better options. I'm just a few minutes away from LA anyways, so I have access to kosher stores. I was told that Baron Herzon is available at regular stores, so people who do not live close to a religious community might want to check with their local stores and see what other options besides Manischewitz they have.