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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: muman613 on February 25, 2014, 12:46:00 AM
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One of my favorite old sci-fi series is Star Trek, the original series (from 1966-1967), and here are the ten best episodes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmn4FXXnIc4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_trek_tos
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV3Ev7oGqys
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http://gorillavid.in/ypen3qscrw89
This is the anti-nazi episode Patterns Of Force
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Yes, I am a Treckie...Amok Time, The trouble with Tribbles, Shore Leave, Space Seed, Start Treck 4. Love them all! I have to come back and watch them later!
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You know that both William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are both Jewish? Also the vulcan had salute is a Hebrew prayer said during the high holy days?
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You know that both William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are both Jewish? Also the vulcan had salute is a Hebrew prayer said during the high holy days?
You are correct about several things, except that the Vulcan salute is not a prayer. It is the hand position used by the Kohens when giving the priestly blessing (which is said at various times during the year, including on the high holidays). Actually we say the priestly blessing when we have a minyan in the middle of the Shabbat Morning Amidah prayer...
(http://www.familiesalive.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Priestly_Blessing_pix_2.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS27gI5jB-fYA5XdbckB-EQ0ue27tE9ToKhcgyX-emRCud_rLj6)
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/894569/jewish/The-Priestly-Blessing.htm
In the Holy Temple, the Kohanim ascended a platform ("duchan"—thus the origin of the Yiddish term for the Priestly Blessing: "duchening") after the morning sacrificial offerings, and blessed the gathered throngs. With the destruction of the Temple, the blessing is administered in the course of the prayer services, during the chazzan's Repetition of the Amidah. It is necessary for a minyan to be present in order for the Kohanim to administer the Birkat Kohanim.
In Jerusalem, the Birkat Kohanim rite is performed every morning. On days when the Musaf service is recited, the Birkat Kohanim is performed both during Shacharit and Musaf. In all other Israeli cities beside Jerusalem, some (mostly Sephardim) perform Birkat Kohanim every day, while others (mostly Ashkenazim) only on Shabbat.
Birkat Kohanim is a throwback to the priestly Temple service. A Kohen who had imbibed even a small quantity of an intoxicating beverage was barred from performing any Temple service until the drink's effects had worn off. The same rule applies to Birkat Kohanim nowadays, and consequently the blessing is not administered during the afternoon Minchah service, for fear that some Kohanim may have enjoyed an aperitif together with their lunches. On public fast days the Kohanim recite the blessing during Minchah as well.
In the Diaspora
A blessing must be conferred with a joyful heart, hence the prevailing custom in the Diaspora to relegate the Birkat Kohanim to the major holidays. Furthermore, the blessing is only done during the Musaf prayer, when the crowd is happily anticipating their impending "dismissal" from synagogue, when they will be free to go home and celebrate the holiday meal with family and friends. Apparently, true joy cannot be experienced by all until the rabbi's sermon is dispensed with… An exception to this rule is Simchat Torah, when the Birkat Kohanim is done during the Shacharit (morning) services, this because on this joyous day many make kiddush (on alcoholic beverages) before Musaf.
Interestingly, the Birkat Kohanim is also performed on Yom Kippur; when we are joyful because of the atonement granted by G‑d on this holiest of days.
There are conflicting customs whether Birkat Kohanim is administered on a holiday which falls on Shabbat. Chabad custom is to proceed with the blessing as usual.
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Bill Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are both Jews... As a matter of fact I believe that Nimoys family may have known my fathers family (who lived in Boston at the time).... I think my grandfather and his grandfather may be buried in the same cemetary...
Anyway... This reminds me of 'Jews in Space':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6IEGHrzqI
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You know that both William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy are both Jewish? Also the vulcan had salute is a Hebrew prayer said during the high holy days?
The Vulcan salute is not a prayer it is the way the Kohanim hold their hands during Birkat HaKohanim (The Priestly Blessing)but the Kohanim use both hands instead of one hand.
It is not onlt said on the high holidays outside of Israel it is said the high holidays,Pesach,Shavuot & Sukot only by Ashekanzim & by Sfardim every day.
In Israel it said every day by Ashkenazim & Sefardim alike.
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The Vulcan salute is not a prayer it is the way the Kohanim hold their hands during Birkat HaKohanim (The Priestly Blessing)but the Kohanim use both hands instead of one hand.
It is not onlt said on the high holidays outside of Israel it is said the high holidays,Pesach,Shavuot & Sukot only by Ashekanzim & by Sfardim every day.
In Israel it said every day by Ashkenazim & Sefardim alike.
Did you see I posted this information above?
We say Birkat Kohanim on Shabbat Sacharit service also.. In the Amidah...
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Here is a video taken at the Kotel last Sukkot (5774)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QSAtVfyQ8
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Anyway, back to TOS...
Here is an episode, the 'Mirror Mirror' episode where Kirk and crew get replicated by the transporter, and a set of good and bad Kirk & crew exist in parallel universes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfH-0VxMMsA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror,_Mirror_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)
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Did you see I posted this information above?
We say Birkat Kohanim on Shabbat Sacharit service also.. In the Amidah...
Not in Chutz Laaretz Ashkanazim only say it on the high holidays & Pesach,Shavuot & Sukot not on a regular shabbos.
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Not in Chutz Laaretz Ashkanazim only say it on the high holidays & Pesach,Shavuot & Sukot not on a regular shabbos.
Chabad surely does say Birkat Kohanim in the Amidah on Shabbat morning services. I know this is true, and the article I posted above (from Chabad) does say that Ashkenazim do say it on Shabbat. They do not do the Duchening though...
I am looking for the source of this...
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http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/894585/jewish/In-Lieu-of-the-Blessing.htm
In Lieu of the Blessing
Remembering the priestly blessing in our everyday communal prayers
By Naftali Silberberg
As mentioned above, (in Ashkenazi communities) outside Israel, the Kohanim administer the Birkat Kohanim on holidays only, during the Musaf prayer. In Israel, too, only in Jerusalem is the Birkat Kohanim performed every day. The rest of the country suffices with a weekly blessing administered on Shabbat.
(The Rebbe points out that the Land of Israel is the "heart" of the globe; the conduit through which the entire world receives its Divine flow of energy. Similarly, the daily blessings issued by the Kohanim in Jerusalem extend throughout the entire world, showering G‑d's blessings on Jews in the rest of the Land and the Diaspora as well.)
During those prayers which are essentially eligible for the Birkat Kohanim – i.e. Shacharit of every day, and Musaf of Shabbat, Chol Hamoed and Rosh Chodesh – while Birkat Kohanim is not performed, the chazzan recites the following short prayer, in lieu of the Birkat Kohanim, during the Repetition of the Amidah, immediately before the Sim Shalom blessing:
"Our G‑d and G‑d of our fathers, bless us with the threefold blessing written in the Torah by Moses Your servant, and pronounced by Aaron and his sons the Kohanim… [and the prayer concludes with the text of the Priestly Blessing]."
In Chabad congregations, when the chazzan concludes each of the three verses of the blessing, the congregation responds with "Amen." In most other communities, the congregation responds by saying "kain yehi ratzon" – "indeed, may this be Your will."
This prayer is also said by the chazzan during the holiday Musaf if no Kohen is in attendance to actually perform the Birkat Kohanim.
Since this prayer is only recited during those prayers which are inherently eligible for Birkat Kohanim, it is not recited during Minchah services, when Birkat Kohanim isn't performed for fear that some of the Kohanim may not be completely sober. On public fast days, when there is no concern of intoxication, this prayer is recited during the Minchah prayer as well.
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Chabad surely does say Birkat Kohanim in the Amidah on Shabbat morning services. I know this is true, and the article I posted above (from Chabad) does say that Ashkenazim do say it on Shabbat. They do not do the Duchening though...
I am looking for the source of this...
This you are correct I was speaking strictly about duchaning.
All Ashkenazim including Chabad the chazan says it everyday but only Sephardim duchan every day outside Israel.
Inside Israel Ashkenazim & Sephardim duchan every day.
When we say birkat Kohanim here in Israel we mean dunchaning.
It is not birkat Kohaimim if it is not duchaning because no Kohain reciting it & no bracha as you posted above in lieu of the bracha.
Therefore it is NOT birkat Kohanim proper.
It is just as a remeberance of birkat kohanim.
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This you are correct I was speaking strictly about duchaning.
All Ashkenazim including Chabad the chazan says it everyday but only Sephardim duchan every day outside Israel.
Inside Israel Ashkenazim & Sephardim duchan every day.
When we say birkat Kohanim here in Israel we mean dunchaning.
It is not birkat Kohaimim if it is not duchaning because no Kohain reciting it & no bracha as you posted above in lieu of the bracha.
Therefore it is NOT birkat Kohanim proper.
It is just as a remeberance of birkat kohanim.
You are correct. It is not the 'Birkat Kohanim' because we do not need a Kohen to say it during the Amidah remembrance of the blessing.
I apologize for the confusion.
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Here is something which discusses Duchaning in the diaspora...
http://www.oztorah.com/2010/03/duchaning-in-the-diaspora-ask-the-rabbi/
Duchaning in the Diaspora – Ask the Rabbi
Q. Why don’t the kohanim duchan (or duchen) in synagogue every day in the Diaspora like they do in Israel?
A. The kohanim blessed the people from a platform in the Temple known as a duchan, hence the word duchaning to describe the ceremony. In Israel people are used to daily duchaning; in the Diaspora it generally takes place only on festivals. Reasons include the following:
• The kohen must be ritually pure when he duchans, and there is more likelihood of this on festivals.
• The festival prayers say, “Bestow on us the blessing of Your festivals”, which suggests a link between festivals and blessing.
• The kohanim have to bless the people with joy, and festivals evoke this emotion since the Torah says, v’samachta b’chaggecha – “you shall rejoice on your festival”. Why can there not be joy every day in the Diaspora? Because it was often a bitter experience to be a Diaspora Jew.
Some advocate duchaning when a festival falls on Shabbat, especially Yom Kippur. Some, especially Sephardim, duchan every Shabbat, though Ashkenazim note that people’s joy tends to be affected on Shabbat by thoughts of the problems which they will face next day. There is the further concern that some of those who claim to be kohanim may be in error. Jews in the Diaspora were often confused about their lineage, whereas in Israel greater care was exercised.
Rabbi Nathan Adler had thoroughly researched his kohanic background and duchaned every day. The Vilna Gaon wanted to institute daily duchaning but was unable to change the accepted practice. The Ba’al HaTanya, the teacher of Chabad Chassidism, also saw no real reason not to duchan daily.
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Returning to the Star Trek topic...
While in my teenage years I developed quite a psychological connection to Spock. His desire to live a logical life seemed so interesting to me, who as a young man went through a lot of tough situations (divorce of parents, feelings of alienation, etc.) wished for a logical world. When things didn't seem to make sense, Spock would provide a mindset where emotions were not displayed, and the cool calculus of logic was the answer to every problem.
Spock said some of the most 'fascinating' things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dMBS4Kvhuw
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In the 90s I did watch ST-TNG (Star Trek - The Next Generation) although at the time I said I still preferred the TOS series.
Of course TNG had a character to 'fill in' for the Logical Mr Spock, the neural net Android Data who was on a 'spiritual quest' to become human (like a technological Pinocchio)...
Here are some of the interesting things Data said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSJ_Mxt_9mc
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There is only one Mr. Spock & it is Leonard Nimoy.
The current homo Zachary Quinto doesn't hold a candle to Nimoy.
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I have not even watched any of the new Star Treks (the last two I believe)...
Like Batman (I liked the original batman, and the 1st movie)... I am tired of reboots...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ2XIq9pN5I
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Captian Kirk said 'Bump'!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1P7Q0TU4NE
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http://www.hulu.com/watch/283880
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The original series has always been my favorite. And Captain Kirk is my favorite of all the captains. I never cared that much for Star Trek: The Next Generation. It always struck me as nothing but a large corporation in space. For example, some story lines were about one person vying for a promotion. One person trying to impress Captain Picard. One woman (Lt. Shelby) going after Commander Riker's job. And they mostly stayed on the ship.
But in the original series, Kirk and the others beamed down to planets, interacted with other species, and sometimes fought them. And the character of Captain Kirk was so passionate about his beliefs. Young William Shatner was not a bad looking guy. It was nice to see him getting his shirt ripped open and his face scratched. Whereas Captain Picard was always dry and unemotional.
However, I did like the character Lwaxana Troi from TNG, who was Magel Barrett in real life.
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Hi Lisa,
I full agree that TOS was much more interesting than TNG. It is something I also said to my friend recently about sci-fi in general. It seems 'effects' are more important than the actors in todays movies.
I watched a documentary on Shatner this afternoon. Very interesting guy...
Anyway I also like Diana Troi, the daughter of Laxwana Troi...
Here is a top 10 episodes of TNG:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz0t-h0_R2Q
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...And the character of Captain Kirk was so passionate about his beliefs. Young William Shatner was not a bad looking guy. It was nice to see him getting his shirt ripped open and his face scratched...
I thought it was just me who enjoyed that ;D
It's nice that I am not the only female fan.
I didn't like TNG. Apart from the physically unattractive captain/crew, I found the plots very slow and borring. TOS would get right into the plot immediatly.
A lot of the plots in TOS had an allegory to them.
For example in one episode they go to a planet where the humans are drugged and happy. (It's the one where Spock falls for a girl in S1.) When the crew find and get rid of the chemical that drugged everyone, the humans return to their usual unhappy selfs. Then they suddenly realise that they have not achieved anything.
End message of that episode: Unhappiness and dissatisfation are what causes humans to progress and push themselves to invent and create.
It was quite clever really.
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fibro,
I hear what you are saying but disagree on certain aspects. Of course I am coming from a 'male perspective'...
TNG did have two very attractive characters, and it became a part of the plot (to the point it became 'soap opera'-ish)...
Diana Troi and Will Riker were the two perfect looking specimens (although Troi was not human, but humanoid)...
In discussing this recently it was said that Riker was supposed to be the series new 'macho' looking character for the plots which call for the 'Kirk'-like rolls.
I said 'Diana is hot' a lot... I like that brunette, intellectual character, who is empathetic and may I add 'buxom'..
And like mushrooms and cheese, the TNG series did require a little time to get used to. But the plots sometimes were interesting ways of looking at philosophical issues. The whole 'Data' character and his search for what it means to be human (which I call the pinochio plot) does provide some good plot material.
I was very tired of plot devices like the 'Holo-Deck' which would occasionally malfunction and cause predictable events in the story... I thought some characters were obviously on the cast to provide comic relief (like the woopie Goldberg character)...
Anyway, TOS is still my all time favorite. And Kirk can kick some ssa....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpatzxeFDQU
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Shatners biography is very interesting...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc0bVxfQ2xY
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I saw that documentary on Sunday afternoon.... Very good man, he had some tough times...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-kTRv216Nw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31U9Z68c0ks
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I suspect Lisa may remember this classic TNG episode when Luxwana Troi gets a 'crush' on Captain Picard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgFJ89chKOE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97f8KAFIaN4
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZauOaGQGgKY
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Some classic TNG scenes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ga0CxQ4WU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLyszVGMZ_o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6_bZOglUw0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-iTVag7bjY