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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: angryChineseKahanist on April 04, 2014, 09:01:35 AM
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/islamic-group-strip-catholic-church-crosses-article-1.1744922
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A compromise and surrender.
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Muslims should be removed from 'filthy infidel' lands and be sent back to screw their camels in the desert of Sahara.
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Why is this news?
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Why is this news?
I agree... If they purchased the property, they have the right to remove what they want. Similarly if a Synagogue were to move into an old church I am sure that some things would have to be removed.
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Why is this news?
It was in the news.
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I think it is an ominous story for the people of New York State, especially Syracuse.
Islam scores another point! They are another group that will have better protected rights...like women, blacks, Hispanics and sexuality disturbed people.
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What is the problem if we Jews bought the building the crosses would have to be removed as well,why should Muslims be condemned for this?
If they engage of acts that harm others we should condemn them,however they are doing nothing that we Jews would not do?
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What is the problem if we Jews bought the building the crosses would have to be removed as well,why should Muslims be condemned for this?
If they engage of acts that harm others we should condemn them,however they are doing nothing that we Jews would not do?
And I'm sure the Chrsitians would remove the Star of David or any Muslim symbols if it was used prior as a synagogue or a Mosque.
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why would they buy a church? why not a factory?
its the same as when they buy israeli flags just to burn them.
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And I'm sure the Chrsitians would remove the Star of David or any Muslim symbols if it was used prior as a synagogue or a Mosque.
Actually not.
I have seen buildings that were shuls & that are now churches in Brooklyn & the stain glass windows with mogen dovids & menorahs can be seen.
When you ride past such places you can not help but notice that plus the Hebrew writing on the facade of the building.
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And I'm sure the Chrsitians would remove the Star of David or any Muslim symbols if it was used prior as a synagogue or a Mosque.
You are absolutely right.
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You are absolutely right.
No he's not just drive past any former shul in Brooklyn & you will see Hebrew writing,& stain glass windows with Jewish symbols like a Mogen Dovid or Menorah on what is now a church.
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why should Christian s hate jews?
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why should Christian s hate jews?
Because they think we killed Stick Boy!
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Because they think we killed Stick Boy!
not everyone thinks like mel gibson.
i got no problem with normal jews. i just dont like the evil ones. pretty much agree with chaim. which is why i'm still on the forum
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Because they think we killed Stick Boy!
Give me a break.
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not everyone thinks like mel gibson.
i got no problem with normal jews. i just dont like the evil ones. pretty much agree with chaim. which is why i'm still on the forum
I agree.
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I don't get why Jesus gets bashed for things an Empire did to Jew's. .. that doesn't help anything. The best thing the Jew's ever did for Christians was show the Christians the light. Those teachings lead to great things, and painful things, but the end result was good. We are facing an evil empire once again, show the light.
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I don't get why Jesus gets bashed for things an Empire did to Jew's. .. that doesn't help anything. The best thing the Jew's ever did for Christians was show the Christians the light. Those teachings lead to great things, and painful things, but the end result was good. We are facing an evil empire once again, show the light.
Don't ask... Don't tell.. It is a long story..
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You are absolutely right.
Christians don't consider the Star an offensive symbol at all, at least not real ones. The crescent is another story.
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Give me a break.
Well apparently you were never called a Christ-Killer & had rocks thrown at you by little Christian kids.
I did back in the late 60's early 70's living out on Long Island.
That is why after my Bar Mitzvah I joined the JDL.
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Well apparently you were never called a Christ-Killer & had rocks thrown at you by little Christian kids.
I did back in the late 60's early 70's living out on Long Island.
That is why after my Bar Mitzvah I joined the JDL.
I hope you kicked these clowns in the face.
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I hope you kicked these clowns in the face.
I was about 10 or 11,but you better believe that my late father,A"H tracked them down & read them the riot act.
I joined JDL shortly after my Bar Mitzvah & learned karate so this would not happen again.
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Well apparently you were never called a Christ-Killer & had rocks thrown at you by little Christian kids.
I did back in the late 60's early 70's living out on Long Island.
That is why after my Bar Mitzvah I joined the JDL.
I've been hearing this from other Jews who live in the States. I want to make a parallel with the children's unfiltered view of the religion, and medieval Europe, but I suppose I've already made ppl here mad enough at me.
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I've been hearing this from other Jews who live in the States. I want to make a parallel with the children's unfiltered view of the religion, and medieval Europe, but I suppose I've already made ppl here mad enough at me.
I haven't live in the US for 9 years.
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Well apparently you were never called a Christ-Killer & had rocks thrown at you by little Christian kids.
I did back in the late 60's early 70's living out on Long Island.
That is why after my Bar Mitzvah I joined the JDL.
But who here is disrespectful towards your religion? (I know that it won't matter anyway. Being disrespectful towards Christians has become a given here. What a detriment to this movement. I thought the point is to save Israel and America. I know one thing from when I was very young. Rabbi Meir Kahane knew his audience. This is what made him strong and influential.) Whatever, people like Muman and yourself win. Complain to each other about ALL the evil Christians...while our countries burn around us.
I, also, would hope that those children had their teeth kicked down their throat.
I know being attacked for religious beliefs, those which don't call for killing nonbelievers, is disgusting.
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But who here is disrespectful towards your religion? (I know that it won't matter anyway. Being disrespectful towards Christians has become a given here. What a detriment to this movement. I thought the point is to save Israel and America. I know one thing from when I was very young. Rabbi Meir Kahane knew his audience. This is what made him strong and influential.) Whatever, people like Muman and yourself win. Complain to each other about ALL the evil Christians...while our countries burn around us.
I, also, would hope that those children had their teeth kicked down their throat.
I know being attacked for religious beliefs, those which don't call for killing nonbelievers, is disgusting.
Sure things have changed since the 60's & 70's & no disrespect was meant towards decent Christians.
But let's face it was a major tennet of Christianity that we Jews are Christ-killers & we deserve all that has happened to us because he was killed.
Some still believe & others don't.
I am sure the Anti-Israel churches like the Presbetyrians & the United Church of Canada believe that still.
I am sure Obama's minister Jeremiah Wright still believes that.
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Well apparently you were never called a Christ-Killer & had rocks thrown at you by little Christian kids.
I did back in the late 60's early 70's living out on Long Island.
That is why after my Bar Mitzvah I joined the JDL.
She probably did not. and i never threw rocks at jews. just boulders.
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Sure things have changed since the 60's & 70's & no disrespect was meant towards decent Christians.
But let's face it was a major tennet of Christianity that we Jews are Christ-killers & we deserve all that has happened to us because he was killed.
Some still believe & others don't.
I am sure the Anti-Israel churches like the Presbetyrians & the United Church of Canada believe that still.
I am sure Obama's minister Jeremiah Wright still believes that.
Honestly I strongly doubt that any of these people were actually devout, practicing Christians. What is more likely is that these kids are the product of generations of familial Jew-hatred that had been given all the basic talking points of that philosophy--stuff they didn't personally understand at that age.
Trinity Church is not a real church and the PCUSA isn't either (they ordain sodomites, for instance). Some other Presbyterians (like PCA) are not that way.
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Honestly I strongly doubt that any of these people were actually devout, practicing Christians. What is more likely is that these kids are the product of generations of familial Jew-hatred that had been given all the basic talking points of that philosophy--stuff they didn't personally understand at that age.
Spot on.
You know.....................Mr Hilter was a Christian and so were his followers.
Does that mean Christians should pay the gas bill?
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Honestly I strongly doubt that any of these people were actually devout, practicing Christians. What is more likely is that these kids are the product of generations of familial Jew-hatred that had been given all the basic talking points of that philosophy--stuff they didn't personally understand at that age.
Trinity Church is not a real church and the PCUSA isn't either (they ordain sodomites, for instance). Some other Presbyterians (like PCA) are not that way.
Back in the 60's & 70's especially in the Suburbs most people were church going & blue laws were strictly enforced you still can not buy beer in New York before noon & liquor stores they are still forced to close on Sundays.
Never heard of Trinity.
There is this Christian pastor in Florida Terry Jones that I highly respect,he's the one that burned the Koran live on international & national TV.
He should be given an award & praised.
He is an example of a good person & what a Christian should be.
But in the 60's & 70's & way before that people actually believed that we killed Jesus.
People who subscribe to replacement theology are generally Anti-Semites & those who subscribe to the dual covenant approach are not.
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CK- don't feel bad. Think of it this way- it was them who made (or influenced) you into becoming a Kahanist.
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CK- don't feel bad. Think of it this way- it was them who made (or influenced) you into becoming a Kahanist.
Actually it was the book Never Again that got me on board I guess both things had an influence.
My father approved of my being in JDL my mother wasn't happy about it.
Dad,A"H was a big sympathizer & always packed a rod.
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But who here is disrespectful towards your religion? (I know that it won't matter anyway. Being disrespectful towards Christians has become a given here. What a detriment to this movement. I thought the point is to save Israel and America. I know one thing from when I was very young. Rabbi Meir Kahane knew his audience. This is what made him strong and influential.) Whatever, people like Muman and yourself win. Complain to each other about ALL the evil Christians...while our countries burn around us.
I, also, would hope that those children had their teeth kicked down their throat.
I know being attacked for religious beliefs, those which don't call for killing nonbelievers, is disgusting.
No one, you guys are fine.
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But who here is disrespectful towards your religion? (I know that it won't matter anyway. Being disrespectful towards Christians has become a given here. What a detriment to this movement. I thought the point is to save Israel and America. I know one thing from when I was very young. Rabbi Meir Kahane knew his audience. This is what made him strong and influential.) Whatever, people like Muman and yourself win. Complain to each other about ALL the evil Christians...while our countries burn around us.
I, also, would hope that those children had their teeth kicked down their throat.
I know being attacked for religious beliefs, those which don't call for killing nonbelievers, is disgusting.
bc3,
You always seem to want to drag me into these sorts of discussions... I don't know why because I really said nothing here that was disrespectful or 'hateful' as you call it.
But the other side of the issue is that Jews have been hated on by Christians for many years. In our lifetime (as CK has related) we have been accused of deicide and outcast from many opportunities because of our faith. It was only 1965 (the year of my birth) that the RCC changed it's teachings regarding the collective guilt of the Jewish people. That was only 49 years ago and it takes people a long time (as we can see with people like Gibson who is celebrated by many Christians and Catholics) to change their views.
Nobody here is hating on Christians.
One question for those who say that those Christians who exhibit antisemitism are not 'REAL' Christians... Why does it seem that almost every conservative website where Christians are, there are always comments reviving the deicide charge, and that Jews are the synagogue of Satan.... And yet the 'Real' Christians have NEVER EVER stood up and rebuked these 'fake' Christians for claiming such things?
Has anyone ever seen a Christian on Youtube refute those who quote Christian scriptures to condemn Jews to eternal hell? Never have I seen it... So i must wonder who these 'real' Christians are.. They sure don't defend the Jews from slander.
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Back in the 60's & 70's especially in the Suburbs most people were church going & blue laws were strictly enforced you still can not buy beer in New York before noon & liquor stores they are still forced to close on Sundays.
Never heard of Trinity.
There is this Christian pastor in Florida Terry Jones that I highly respect,he's the one that burned the Koran live on international & national TV.
He should be given an award & praised.
He is an example of a good person & what a Christian should be.
But in the 60's & 70's & way before that people actually believed that we killed Jesus.
Being overall socially conservative doesn't mean you are a practicing Christian necessarily. I still think these people were all just jerks who found the excuse that they wanted to indulge their hatred.
People who subscribe to replacement theology are generally Anti-Semites & those who subscribe to the dual covenant approach are not.
Yes, and no. There is "soft" and "hard" RT. Pretty much all mainstream Christians would agree that Christians are a chosen people, but many of them also believe that the Covenant with Abraham is still in effect and that Christians have been "grafted into" the original Chosen. Of course there is also the RT that teaches that God has negated the entire covenant with Jewry and a lot of those are outright Nazis (albeit some are just ignorant people that have never studied, or cared to study, the issue for themselves).
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bc3,
You always seem to want to drag me into these sorts of discussions... I don't know why because I really said nothing here that was disrespectful or 'hateful' as you call it.
But the other side of the issue is that Jews have been hated on by Christians for many years. In our lifetime (as CK has related) we have been accused of deicide and outcast from many opportunities because of our faith. It was only 1965 (the year of my birth) that the RCC changed it's teachings regarding the collective guilt of the Jewish people. That was only 49 years ago and it takes people a long time (as we can see with people like Gibson who is celebrated by many Christians and Catholics) to change their views.
Nobody here is hating on Christians.
One question for those who say that those Christians who exhibit antisemitism are not 'REAL' Christians... Why does it seem that almost every conservative website where Christians are, there are always comments reviving the deicide charge, and that Jews are the synagogue of Satan.... And yet the 'Real' Christians have NEVER EVER stood up and rebuked these 'fake' Christians for claiming such things?
Has anyone ever seen a Christian on Youtube refute those who quote Christian scriptures to condemn Jews to eternal hell? Never have I seen it... So i must wonder who these 'real' Christians are.. They sure don't defend the Jews from slander.
Jesus said you'll know his followers by their fruits. That's about all I can say. I would hope that most people can see that someone who is advocating mass murder in God's name, whether they follow Goathammed or profess to follow Jesus or someone else, is not a man of Hashem.
It's no different than someone professing to be a devout Christian or Jew, yet sleeping with everything that moves. Their lifestyle does not match their spoken words, so any religion they are proclaiming is bogus.
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Spot on.
You know.....................Mr Hilter was a Christian and so were his followers.
Does that mean Christians should pay the gas bill?
He followed a norse pagan religion. A lot of Catholics got along with him though, mostly at first.
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He followed a norse pagan religion. A lot of Catholics got along with him though, mostly at first.
A lot of "Christians" follow Osama too.
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Good picture in my list (https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971942_199546423529876_734284488_n.jpg)
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She probably did not. and i never threw rocks at jews. just boulders.
No. But I grew up on Long Island in the 60s & 70s. Let me relate a story. On a nice sunny weekend day, my mother sent me to a friends house with a bottle of wine. A token or gift for some occasion that family was celebrating. I was a little girl. As I gave the gift to the girls grandmother, a grown man in the group made a crack about my ethnicity. I heard him. Children have ears. That was just as hurtful as any stone. This was an adult and I was bringing a gift from my parents. Mind you, this was a professional man ( and attorney) and he was Jewish. I tell you that because it makes my point. I went home and told my parents. They didn't say anything derogatory about the man. Other, than...don't mind him...he is an idiot. Should I hold that man's actions against you? Constantly make fun of your beliefs because of him. Nope. That would make me an idiot...just like him. ::)
Everyone has stories. It is what you do with bad experiences. Not what they do to you.
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No. But I grew up on Long Island in the 60s & 70s. Let me relate a story. On a nice sunny weekend day, my mother sent me to a friends house with a bottle of wine. A token or gift for some occasion that family was celebrating. I was a little girl. As I gave the gift to the girls grandmother, a grown man in the group made a crack about my ethnicity. I heard him. Children have ears. That was just as hurtful as any stone. This was an adult and I was bringing a gift from my parents. Mind you, this was a professional man ( and attorney) and he was Jewish. I tell you that because it makes my point. I went home and told my parents. They didn't say anything derogatory about the man. Other, than...don't mind him...he is an idiot. Should I hold that man's actions against you? Constantly make fun of your beliefs because of him. Nope. That would make me an idiot...just like him. ::)
Everyone has stories. It is what you do with bad experiences. Not what they do to you.
Have mercy... You still remember that? Him who left his Jewish wife with two daughters to marry a shiksa half his age :::D The worse part of the picture is he got no better with age... I should know because he became my step father in law some 40 years later... May he rest in peace ::)
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No. But I grew up on Long Island in the 60s & 70s. Let me relate a story. On a nice sunny weekend day, my mother sent me to a friends house with a bottle of wine. A token or gift for some occasion that family was celebrating. I was a little girl. As I gave the gift to the girls grandmother, a grown man in the group made a crack about my ethnicity. I heard him. Children have ears. That was just as hurtful as any stone. This was an adult and I was bringing a gift from my parents. Mind you, this was a professional man ( and attorney) and he was Jewish. I tell you that because it makes my point. I went home and told my parents. They didn't say anything derogatory about the man. Other, than...don't mind him...he is an idiot. Should I hold that man's actions against you? Constantly make fun of your beliefs because of him. Nope. That would make me an idiot...just like him. ::)
Everyone has stories. It is what you do with bad experiences. Not what they do to you.
I love the way you guys talk, you have to make a video!
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He made a lasing impression on me. I don't really care where he rests. Just sayin. :thumbsdown: ( I think the smiley is pointing in the right direction.)
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I'm guessing this SHJ that hated Italians just loved negroes.
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I love the way you guys talk, you have to make a video!
If we all got on skype and talked about things and put it on a radio show, that could be pretty epic.
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The Lord God sees all, we know that Satan is trying to destroy God's people and everything he created! The Day of the Lord is Coming!
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Here's a Christian store with a star of David.
This is not an example of Christians just leaving the star of David on their property; this is an example of Christians PUTTING the star of David on their storefront.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.747425,-74.156419,3a,75y,74.08h,75.65t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sqgRQYYqdgPz-idbawKaQ6Q!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.747425,-74.156419,3a,75y,74.08h,75.65t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sqgRQYYqdgPz-idbawKaQ6Q!2e0)
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And this one where they put a menorah on their storefront. Again, the PUT it there.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.753921,-74.171188,3a,37.5y,68.48h,91.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjCJU4_22WSDSSNnicVIvSQ!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.753921,-74.171188,3a,37.5y,68.48h,91.61t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sjCJU4_22WSDSSNnicVIvSQ!2e0!6m1!1e1)
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And this one too. But you can't see it in google streets. Inside there's lots of Jewish stuff there like menorahs and stars of Davids.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.885199,-74.285242,3a,15y,313.84h,90.13t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sLYvvEl7sw1Q_YNExzVOh7g!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.885199,-74.285242,3a,15y,313.84h,90.13t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sLYvvEl7sw1Q_YNExzVOh7g!2e0!6m1!1e1)