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Title: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 04, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-B_kmAebbQ
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 04, 2014, 01:35:46 PM
They were still innocent in the womb. They had a chance to choose right or wrong and if they had been raised by actual human beings maybe they would have chosen the former.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Dr. Dan on April 04, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
abortions are bad when the mother's life is not in danger.  But I will agree to voluntary sterilization.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Sparky on April 04, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
I agree.  Free walk-in abortion clinics should be located in every ghetto in the US.  Without abortions, the black population of the US would explode, with the predictable devastating consequences.  I respect all those who are against abortion, but have to disagree in this particular case. 
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 04, 2014, 04:37:41 PM
  I was just messing around. I don't know if their should be abortions or not. But this sure make a good case for it though.
   I do think though that their should be things such as contraceptives though. A lot cheaper to provide people with them instead of then paying a lifetime of welfare, cops, jails, and robberies (being robbed paying the price), insurance premiums etc.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 04, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
I agree.  Free walk-in abortion clinics should be located in every ghetto in the US.  Without abortions, the black population of the US would explode, with the predictable devastating consequences.  I respect all those who are against abortion, but have to disagree in this particular case.

 In the not so distant future America will be majority non-white (and non-Asian).
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 04, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
Every life lost means it's a harder life for everyone else, and it keeps getting worse. Before the abortion craze, 70% of black children had 2 married parents. Now it's extremely low. No responsibility to kids is encouraged, so it makes culture worse.

And this is disgusting.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Rubystars on April 04, 2014, 09:55:01 PM
Eugenics through murder is not the answer to anything Tag.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 05, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
*reasons
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Zelhar on April 06, 2014, 05:37:42 AM
I am a big proponent of fixing the problem at the pre-conception stage by offering savages cash incentives to undergo permanent sterilization.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Rubystars on April 06, 2014, 06:40:08 AM
I don't think that people should be having children if they aren't able to even take care of themselves but like you I agree this should be a concern pre-conception.

It's important to point out though that this has nothing to do with their genetic makeup or ancestry. I want people to be able to have children if they want them.

It would be a good idea to offer contraception to people on welfare but I absolutely am against abortion unless it's to save a mother's life.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 06, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
I agree.  Free walk-in abortion clinics should be located in every ghetto in the US.  Without abortions, the black population of the US would explode, with the predictable devastating consequences.  I respect all those who are against abortion, but have to disagree in this particular case.
Blacks already constitute a plurality of abortions.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 06, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
I don't think that people should be having children if they aren't able to even take care of themselves but like you I agree this should be a concern pre-conception.

It's important to point out though that this has nothing to do with their genetic makeup or ancestry. I want people to be able to have children if they want them.

It would be a good idea to offer contraception to people on welfare but I absolutely am against abortion unless it's to save a mother's life.
I agree with this post Rubystars. I think that sterilization and drug testing should be a requirement of getting more than temporary dole assistance for any race.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 06, 2014, 03:09:19 PM
I agree with this post Rubystars. I think that sterilization and drug testing should be a requirement of getting more than temporary dole assistance for any race.

Sterilization is monstrous. I can't believe you're [censored] promoting such a thing. It's not a [censored] joke. You a nazi or something?
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Zelhar on April 06, 2014, 06:48:18 PM
It is more humane then the alternative of abortions and unwanted abused and neglected babies that grow up into that same pattern.
Sterilization is monstrous. I can't believe you're [censored] promoting such a thing. It's not a [censored] joke. You a nazi or something?
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 06, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
Sterilization is monstrous. I can't believe you're [censored] promoting such a thing. It's not a [censored] joke. You a nazi or something?
Is this post a joke dude?
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: NoMosqueHere on April 06, 2014, 07:55:43 PM
Abortion is necessary because mandatory sterilization is forbidden.  Blacks have the highest abortion rate in the US.  Without it, the black population and, therefore, black social chaos would explode to truly horrific levels.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: muman613 on April 06, 2014, 09:02:39 PM
Is this post a joke dude?

No, I don't think it is a joke. LKZ is correct that forced sterilization is a Nazi practice... Anyone who has studied what the Nazis did during their reich will quickly learn that the first plan, before the 'Final Solution' was the forced sterilization of the Jewish people. They would finish off the future generations of the Jewish people, while letting the current generation die off (with no ability to assimilate).

I am against both. I do not believe that they are innately evil, and they are certainly redeemable human souls. I do not think murder or forced sterilization are viable options...

And I know that these people are not innately Jew lovers, and many are our enemy. But that is not because of their race, but rather because of their religion.

Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 06, 2014, 09:13:54 PM
Abortion is necessary because mandatory sterilization is forbidden.  Blacks have the highest abortion rate in the US.  Without it, the black population and, therefore, black social chaos would explode to truly horrific levels.

You're a piece of [censored]. The reason why they've degenerated to these levels is they see no worth in their lives.

Is this post a joke dude?

I guess this implies you weren't joking. I wouldn't sterilize a rodent. To promote such a thing is to disregard human life and spit in G-d's face. You're despicable if you really believe this, and G-d forbid you ever have any power in your life if it is so.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 06, 2014, 09:44:30 PM
Dude you need to chill out. Why so crazy?
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 06, 2014, 09:46:55 PM
I would sterilize the Nazi's though. I think that's what Stalin and maybe the U.S. leaders at first wanted to do after WW2.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 06, 2014, 10:42:54 PM
Dude you need to chill out. Why so crazy?

Should repeat the same. I HATE how people can say disgusting horrible things calmly like the don't care, and then get offended when someone raises their voice. If you were really right, you'd fight for it. Phonieness leads to atrociousness.

I would sterilize the Nazi's though. I think that's what Stalin and maybe the U.S. leaders at first wanted to do after WW2.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 06, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
Should repeat the same. I HATE how people can say disgusting horrible things calmly like the don't care, and then get offended when someone raises their voice. If you were really right, you'd fight for it. Phonieness leads to atrociousness.
You think sterilizing welfare bums is atrocious but abortion isn't?
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 07, 2014, 12:34:02 AM
You think sterilizing welfare bums is atrocious but abortion isn't?


WHAT?? They're both murderous atrocities. I never once supported abortion in any situation besides what halacha says to save a mother.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Sparky on April 07, 2014, 12:43:23 AM
Blacks already constitute a plurality of abortions.

Good.  I think abortions should be free and easily available to the black community.  I understand people's concern about the unborn, but in this case, they fail to consider the skyrocketing murder rates that would occur with a large black population.   Look at the murder rates by blacks now in US, and they only make up 14% of the population.   Imagine 30%, 50%,...   Sorry, but if the choice is between black abortions and a more violent and dangerous country,  I'll take the former.  My concern is with the already born in this case.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 07, 2014, 01:01:46 AM
Good.  I think abortions should be free and easily available to the black community.  I understand people's concern about the unborn, but in this case, they fail to consider the skyrocketing murder rates that would occur with a large black population.   Look at the murder rates by blacks now in US, and they only make up 14% of the population.   Imagine 30%, 50%,...   Sorry, but if the choice is between black abortions and a more violent and dangerous country,  I'll take the former.  My concern is with the already born in this case.

Any attempt to keep a group from having babies will increase their offspring. That's a Torah promise. Furthermore, when you teach them to have no regard for their own lives, they'll have no regard for yours. This is despicable beyond all mention, and of course it means that your own women will be happy to use the same services. You are decreeing more black people, not that it's a problem if they're righteous, and unrighteousness upon those that are. You should all be deeply ashamed of yourself and ask Hashem for forgiveness for wanting to kill the babies of his children. You want to kill babies because you think you're more righteous. This is sickening beyond all mention, and not something I can ever imagine JTF, or Rabbi Meir Kahane ZT"L promoting, and something that no Rabbi would join onto.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Zelhar on April 07, 2014, 05:27:04 AM
No, I don't think it is a joke. LKZ is correct that forced sterilization is a Nazi practice... Anyone who has studied what the Nazis did during their reich will quickly learn that the first plan, before the 'Final Solution' was the forced sterilization of the Jewish people. They would finish off the future generations of the Jewish people, while letting the current generation die off (with no ability to assimilate).

I am against both. I do not believe that they are innately evil, and they are certainly redeemable human souls. I do not think murder or forced sterilization are viable options...

And I know that these people are not innately Jew lovers, and many are our enemy. But that is not because of their race, but rather because of their religion.
1. I think nobody here actually proposed forced sterilization.
2. This has nothing to do with race at all.
3. In this particular discussion the point we were making is that elective sterilization is better then abortions.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: ChabadKahanist on April 07, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
That's the ticket we can open up planned parenthood clinics in Arab neighborhoods all across Israel.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 07, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
That's the ticket we can open up planned parenthood clinics in Arab neighborhoods all across Israel.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on April 07, 2014, 01:57:16 PM
That's the ticket we can open up planned parenthood clinics in Arab neighborhoods all across Israel.

 If that doesn't work you can always promote Feminism and modern "fashion" in their communities, it will F$^% up their birthrates just like it did to the Jewish communities.
Title: Re: Best reason's why abortion should be legal.
Post by: Israel Chai on April 07, 2014, 04:19:58 PM
1. I think nobody here actually proposed forced sterilization.
2. This has nothing to do with race at all.
3. In this particular discussion the point we were making is that elective sterilization is better then abortions.

Elective? .0001% of people would consider such an abomination, and usually because of life risk. Neither is better. And yes, forced was what was proposed.