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Title: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: White Israelite on April 17, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 17, 2014, 09:58:26 PM
Ba'al Kerry pretends to be concerned with Ukranian Anti-Semitism. What about his own Anti-Semitism against Israel and his self-hating father's people?

Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: White Israelite on April 17, 2014, 10:43:58 PM
I didn't even realize Kerry was mentioned but I agree he doesn't care about the Jews or Israel.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: AngryAnt on April 17, 2014, 11:48:20 PM
Why on earth do Jews continue to persist living amongst such human vermin like ukranians? These ukranians along with hungarians deserve to be annihilated.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Every Jew AK47 on April 18, 2014, 12:21:37 AM
Actually it is the Pro-Russian Nationalists in Eastern Ukraine whose incumbent government issued the leaflets under the name of the Russian Nationalist governor.  So, in effect, this Anti-Semitism is being spawned from the Russian side, not the Ukrainian side.  The Jews in this town claimed they never faced Anti-Semitic attacks until the Russian backed rebels took control of the area.

I'm not saying that Russians and Ukrainians don't both hate Jews, but we should get our facts correct.  Many say Putin is working behind the scenes to use Anti-Semitism in his favor in the upheaval that he is fueling in Ukraine.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on April 18, 2014, 10:12:28 AM
I didn't even realize Kerry was mentioned but I agree he doesn't care about the Jews or Israel.


I didn't read the article but I saw him on the news say he's concerned about Anti-Semitism.

Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Aces High on April 18, 2014, 10:38:12 AM
When I read this article it instantaneously made me think of the Holocaust.  Where Jews were first identified and then rounded up and sent to the concentration camps.   I think the  Jews should sell off their properties and possessions in the Ukraine, and move to Israel.  I only hope once in Israel, Netanyahu won't sick the Israeli Nazi police on them, confiscate and destroy their homes, and force them out.   Or get murdered in the streets of Israel by one of the hundreds of murdering Arabs set free from prison, by our proud and glorious Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamen Netanyahu.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 01:26:04 PM
This was fake.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 18, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
This was fake.
Yes Hidden Author, anti-Semitism is a big hoax.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Irish Zionist on April 18, 2014, 03:05:25 PM
This was fake.
This is coming from a Lutheran Nazi.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: muman613 on April 18, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
I am not sure I believe this story on face value. There were leaflets handed out, but by who we don't know. 'Masked Men' who claimed to be Ukrainians? I have heard that Russia is trying to use antisemitism against the Ukrainians (who we all know are antisemites anyway, but there has been no 'increase' in antisemitic attacks according to the community).

The who 'antisemitism' thing in this conflict is being used as a political football. It is my advice to Jews in both Russia and Ukraine to BAIL OUT from those countries AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, both hate Jews, and both won't hesitate to provoke haters into killing Jews or stealing Jewish property.

Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:12:21 PM
This is coming from a Lutheran Nazi.

You never fail to demonstrate your high intelligence.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/relax-ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/relax-ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register)

It's fake. Use your extreme intellect to do research instead of throwing around stupid attempts to insult me.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Aces High on April 18, 2014, 04:14:16 PM
 I can tell he's an __ __ __ hole.  Just likes to agitate.  That's how he passes his time.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
Yes Hidden Author, anti-Semitism is a big hoax.

Don't you have a tabloid/TV show/celebrity gossip to blather about? 

I didn't realize anti-semitism is a monolith, and its not possible, ever, to fake it to make someone look bad.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
I can tell he's an __ __ __ hole.  Just likes to agitate.  That's how he passes his time.

Thanks, I appreciate your intelligent response. I can tell you are just a smart person who knows how to discuss current events.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:15:50 PM
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0417/Ukraine-Jewish-registration-leaflet-is-fake-but-still-grotesque (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0417/Ukraine-Jewish-registration-leaflet-is-fake-but-still-grotesque)

Continue to shoot the messenger, please.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/flyers-demanding-jews-register-in-ukraine-fake.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/04/flyers-demanding-jews-register-in-ukraine-fake.html)

Does anyone need more?
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: muman613 on April 18, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
No matter what this news is worrying. If there were 'Armed Masked Men' handing out these antisemitic flyers, they should be hunted down and prosecuted for terrorism. And then they should be shot to death.

Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 04:30:31 PM
No matter what this news is worrying. If there were 'Armed Masked Men' handing out these antisemitic flyers, they should be hunted down and prosecuted for terrorism. And then they should be shot to death.

It's just a way to hurt public opinion of one side done probably by the other.  It clearly worked pretty well with people here.  If anyone here can read Russian, I encourage you to read it. It is word for word a copy of a leaflet handed out by the SS in I believe 1941, with the names of places changed only.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Israel Chai on April 18, 2014, 06:00:15 PM
There were plenty of people who gave out these flyers. What I want to know is who they were.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 18, 2014, 06:02:12 PM
This is coming from a Lutheran Nazi.
I'm still not sure why t_h_j/Hidden Author hasn't been banned.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 06:31:07 PM
I'm still not sure why t_h_j/Hidden Author hasn't been banned.

Why should I be banned? let's hear your logic and infinite wisdom.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Lisa on April 18, 2014, 07:09:52 PM
I don't think t_h_j is "Hidden Author. 

Hidden Author rarely revealed information about himself.  His only posts were to ask Chaim questions for Ask JTF.  t_h_j has in the past given info on his background. 
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 18, 2014, 08:18:39 PM
There were plenty of people who gave out these flyers. What I want to know is who they were.

They were people that wanted to make the separatists look like Nazis.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: syyuge on April 19, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
They may be trying to fake a reply to the Protocols of the elders of Zion in a fishy manner.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Zelhar on April 20, 2014, 04:18:25 AM
You never fail to demonstrate your high intelligence.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/relax-ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/117415/relax-ukraine-not-ordering-its-jews-register)

It's fake. Use your extreme intellect to do research instead of throwing around stupid attempts to insult me.
What do you mean fake? These are fliers that were handed over to local Jews by armed masked men in front of a synagogue. Is it official policy? no not yet, but it's a real event.

Also in Ukraine:
http://antisemitism.org.il/article/86520/parents-warned-passover-jewish-blood-rituals

Volodymyr-Volynskyi - An article appeared in the local paper "Місто вечірнє" (Evening City), both online and in print, warning of the Jewish Passover ritual of killing children for their blood in order to bake Matzoh.

The article looks at Jewish children-killing history in Ukraine by starting with the Beilis case in 1913, the murder of two girls in Sevastopol in 2011 (blamed by some Ukrainians and Russian media on the blood-thirsty Jews), and up to a recent case the writer claims happened in the city.

Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 20, 2014, 05:43:43 AM
I don't think t_h_j is "Hidden Author. 

Hidden Author rarely revealed information about himself.  His only posts were to ask Chaim questions for Ask JTF.  t_h_j has in the past given info on his background.
They have a very similar MO and are both theological anti-Semites that are critical of Jews from a "Christian" angle.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 20, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
What do you mean fake? These are fliers that were handed over to local Jews by armed masked men in front of a synagogue. Is it official policy? no not yet, but it's a real event.

I mean no government actually has that as it's policy. The whole purpose of those was to make the separatists in Donetsk look bad. It talks about Jews registering. Why would individual anti Semites want Jews to register when the government has no such policy?

Also in Ukraine:
http://antisemitism.org.il/article/86520/parents-warned-passover-jewish-blood-rituals

Volodymyr-Volynskyi - An article appeared in the local paper "Місто вечірнє" (Evening City), both online and in print, warning of the Jewish Passover ritual of killing children for their blood in order to bake Matzoh.

The article looks at Jewish children-killing history in Ukraine by starting with the Beilis case in 1913, the murder of two girls in Sevastopol in 2011 (blamed by some Ukrainians and Russian media on the blood-thirsty Jews), and up to a recent case the writer claims happened in the city.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 20, 2014, 10:27:48 AM
They have a very similar MO and are both theological anti-Semites that are critical of Jews from a "Christian" angle.

So among your other qualifications you can now add the title "liar."
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Zelhar on April 20, 2014, 11:31:48 AM
The separatists have no government, they are a mob of riffraff fueled by vodka money from Putin. Both sides in the Ukraine are antisemitic and these sort of initiative come from the bottom up.

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I mean no government actually has that as it's policy. The whole purpose of those was to make the separatists in Donetsk look bad. It talks about Jews registering. Why would individual anti Semites want Jews to register when the government has no such policy?
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: t_h_j on April 20, 2014, 11:51:25 AM
The separatists have no government, they are a mob of riffraff fueled by vodka money from Putin. Both sides in the Ukraine are antisemitic and these sort of initiative come from the bottom up.

Vodka money?
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: White Israelite on April 20, 2014, 12:24:32 PM
The separatists have no government, they are a mob of riffraff fueled by vodka money from Putin. Both sides in the Ukraine are antisemitic and these sort of initiative come from the bottom up.

The third Reich and Muslim brotherhood started as a mob too
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 20, 2014, 12:41:17 PM
The third Reich and Muslim brotherhood started as a mob too
And the Bolsheviks.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: muman613 on April 20, 2014, 02:23:13 PM
It seems it is now a fact, this flyer was a hoax...

It is a propaganda tool being used by the Russians (apparently) to paint the Ukrainians as Jew haters (which we know they are, of course)...

Jews are being used in this conflict, and whoever is doing it should be punished severely.
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: TruthSpreader on April 22, 2014, 12:36:04 PM
Why would any self-respecting Jew live among the enemy?
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: Israel Chai on April 22, 2014, 01:19:48 PM
It seems it is now a fact, this flyer was a hoax...

It is a propaganda tool being used by the Russians (apparently) to paint the Ukrainians as Jew haters (which we know they are, of course)...

Jews are being used in this conflict, and whoever is doing it should be punished severely.

It was indeed handed out, so you're saying that it was done by Russian agents saboteurs?
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: AsheDina on April 22, 2014, 03:30:03 PM
Actually it is the Pro-Russian Nationalists in Eastern Ukraine whose incumbent government issued the leaflets under the name of the Russian Nationalist governor.  So, in effect, this Anti-Semitism is being spawned from the Russian side, not the Ukrainian side.  The Jews in this town claimed they never faced Anti-Semitic attacks until the Russian backed rebels took control of the area.

I'm not saying that Russians and Ukrainians don't both hate Jews, but we should get our facts correct.  Many say Putin is working behind the scenes to use Anti-Semitism in his favor in the upheaval that he is fueling in Ukraine.

Ukraine has always been a Jew hating country.  They, of course are blaming Russia for their own issues.
Putin is clever and worldly but not the villain the west makes him out to be.

USA is the Jew hater and here is John McCain with Neo nazi.  It is America that is supporting this drek:

John McCain with NAZI Svoboda party member:

(http://i.imgur.com/TD6Nory.jpg)

(http://oi44.tinypic.com/2ez1m3k.jpg)
Title: Re: Ukraine: Jews forces to register or be deported
Post by: syyuge on April 22, 2014, 04:12:39 PM
It all is being done by International Muslamic Brotherhood and AQ. They are slowly but steadily using the anti-Jewish tactics to create a strife and war between the NATO and Ukraine on one side and Russia on the others side. USA will be made to be comfortably and neutrally sitting on the fence.

Accordingly once the Europe is weakened, the muslamics will overrun the East Europe and Southern half of West Europe with the active help from China. Red Dragon China in order to further enhance its own economy, needs the deeper and bigger markets in wealthy Europe.