Kach guys in Israel made "illegal" pins. Some shipped to US. Available to chapters. Pic. upon request. I sent 1 sample to JTF mailbox. Need to market/distribute these at $2@ for Kach to recoup costs & do other things. Reply w/proposals.
Time to be banned!
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: StarNfist on April 23, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
Lewinsky, Please describe exactly what is your problem...
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: TruthSpreader on April 23, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
Time for a banning Starnfist
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Post by: StarNfist on April 23, 2014, 03:41:49 PM
You took your med today?
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Post by: Rational Jew on April 23, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
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Post by: TruthSpreader on April 23, 2014, 04:24:13 PM
Go away, Ben Take your bs elsewhere.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: StarNfist on April 23, 2014, 07:06:55 PM
Is your problem with Kach pins our guys in Israel made?
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Post by: Israel Chai on April 23, 2014, 11:32:58 PM
I want one!
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Post by: Spiraling Leopard on April 24, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
I think this guy is legit.
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Post by: StarNfist on April 25, 2014, 09:33:25 AM
Thank you, Leo... I donno what these dudes' problem is... please explain....
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on April 25, 2014, 12:13:02 PM
Usually people selling merchandise are (considered to be) trolls.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: StarNfist on April 25, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
I'm no salesman. I make no profit here & only trying to push jewelry at cost for a cause to help our guys on front lines in Israel. Givaot often without decent food for Shabbat & no funds for raw materials to build. They also need security & medical supplies, not even mentioning legal defence when arrested.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 26, 2014, 11:01:58 PM
I'm no salesman. I make no profit here & only trying to push jewelry at cost for a cause to help our guys on front lines in Israel. Givaot often without decent food for Shabbat & no funds for raw materials to build. They also need security & medical supplies, not even mentioning legal defence when arrested.
בס''ד
We have a responsibility to protect our members. You may be sincere and honest, but I have no idea who you are or what your motivation is. Until we know who are we are dealing with, we cannot allow sales of products on this forum.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: StarNfist on April 26, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Reb Chaim
You know me because we met & talked years ago. If no interest in pins, don't get them. Guys in Israel will be a little disappointed, but they get over it. Not the 1st time.
I mailed a sample pin to your POB. Did you get it?
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 26, 2014, 11:33:01 PM
בס''ד
If you want to sell things here, you will have to identify yourself either in a private message to me on this forum or in a letter to our post office box.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 27, 2014, 12:02:57 AM
בס''ד
I have no idea who this guy is. But we can't have someone come on our forum and open numerous threads and posts soliciting funds over and over again without identifying himself.
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Post by: TruthSpreader on April 27, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
Chaim, I think this guy is either Ben or Steven.
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Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 27, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
I don't think so. But he sent me a nasty message on Facebook. Whatever.
About what? I was talking to him in PM's last night...
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Israel Chai on April 27, 2014, 07:54:47 PM
Ask him if he can make JTF pins.
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Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on April 27, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
I got a really mixed feel for him...
He said he was from the Midwest and was asking about my connections. Are their Kahanists chapters in the U.S. ? Also he said something very coincidental, very.
If it was just a coincidence, I apologize to him for asking if he was ShaBak. If not it was very weird. ..
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Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on April 27, 2014, 08:29:49 PM
Chaim, I apologize if I upset him for no reason.
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Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on April 28, 2014, 12:16:11 AM
Don't worry about it, Ephraim. You had good reason to be suspicious. Almost everything he was promoting here has been declared illegal both in the United States and Israel. Why would he come on our forum and start advocating things that are questionable at the very least?
While we strongly disagree with the decision to outlaw the Kach movement in the U.S. and Israel, the movement nevertheless was declared illegal. He came here selling pins for Kach. That is legally questionable.
He then started selling items openly promoting Tag Mechir, which is an underground organization of brave Jews in Israel. We don't condemn Tag Mechir and the law does not and cannot require us to condemn them. But to actually applaud their activities and promote them is very questionable from a legal standpoint.
We take controversial stands but all of our actions are law-abiding. We cannot and will not allow someone to come here and create legal problems for our movement or our members.
We would never inform on our fellow Jews, G-d forbid, but that doesn't mean we have to let them remain on our forum. We are obligated to protect our members.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for April 20, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on April 28, 2014, 01:59:00 AM
He is likely Shabak.
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Post by: Israel Chai on April 28, 2014, 10:41:45 PM