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Title: Shalom
Post by: Dan Ben Noah on June 14, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
Shalom
Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on June 15, 2014, 12:44:54 AM
I thought this was going to be about Israel's Tourism Ministry ads. Rather than target homosexual "tourism" or Xtian tourism, they should advertise in a way that is appealing to religious Jews. Most mainstream tour guide books and pamphlets are-self hating. Since I am familiar with Israel, I don't rely on Bolshevik publications when I go there. You can find better information on the Internet than from Israeli Tourism Ministry publications.

Also, the Israeli Tourism Ministry learned nothing from the Sin of the Spies. Their emblem encourages people that say "It's a nice place to visit live but I don't want to live there.". Why would they have an emblem that glorifies people who brought back a slanderous report of the Land?


Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on June 15, 2014, 01:34:15 AM
Young Christians are just as godless and left-wing.
Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: kyel on June 15, 2014, 09:45:01 AM
I wonder where they get all these numbers from? I have a feeling there is more Jews in the United States  than the numbers show...How would we go from 4 million in America in 1930 to only 5-6 million in 2014 when the population should have tripled. I am guessing once families assimilate they are done and it is almost impossible to get them to return to Judaism.
Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on June 15, 2014, 04:52:03 PM
I wonder where they get all these numbers from? I have a feeling there is more Jews in the United States  than the numbers show...How would we go from 4 million in America in 1930 to only 5-6 million in 2014 when the population should have tripled. I am guessing once families assimilate they are done and it is almost impossible to get them to return to Judaism.

 Assimilation + Low birth rate  (Few children).
Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on June 15, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
I wonder where they get all these numbers from? I have a feeling there is more Jews in the United States  than the numbers show...How would we go from 4 million in America in 1930 to only 5-6 million in 2014 when the population should have tripled. I am guessing once families assimilate they are done and it is almost impossible to get them to return to Judaism. 


I remember hearing that there were 6 million American Jews and 6 million people in Israel (including Arabs). I doubt there are 6 million American Jews. It's probably around 4 million. The people that do the polls don't take Halacha into account when determining the count of the Jewish population. Only Orthodox Jews grow and are probably close to the majority. There might be more adherents to Deform "Judaism" but at least half of them are not Jewish since most of them intermarry.

Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: kyel on June 16, 2014, 02:33:28 AM


I remember hearing that there were 6 million American Jews and 6 million people in Israel (including Arabs). I doubt there are 6 million American Jews. It's probably around 4 million. The people that do the polls don't take Halacha into account when determining the count of the Jewish population. Only Orthodox Jews grow and are probably close to the majority. There might be more adherents to Deform "Judaism" but at least half of them are not Jewish since most of them intermarry.

No there are 6 million Jews in Israel and 2 million Arabs (maybe less jews considering soviet goyim). Also there was Jews who came to America after the Soviet Union and there are  Israelis in America who came looking for work in the 80s. There are also people who don't take their own halacha into account and don't consider themselves Jewish when they have a Jewish mother and Jewish grandmother because they don't even realize it makes them 100% Jews and i'm sure there are many like this (I know 2 personally who didn't even consider themselves Jewish)
Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: edu on June 16, 2014, 05:50:28 AM
I agree with Binyamin Yisrael that there is a lot of people who are not really Jewish who are under the false impression that they are Jewish, because they are unaware or unwilling to accept that a non-Orthodox conversion to Judaism doesn't really change someone's status. Namely, he or she remains non-Jewish.
I don't know the exact percentages of self-declared Jews who are phonies.



Title: Re: "Market Judaism, Not Just Israel"
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on June 16, 2014, 02:08:50 PM
No there are 6 million Jews in Israel and 2 million Arabs (maybe less jews considering soviet goyim). Also there was Jews who came to America after the Soviet Union and there are  Israelis in America who came looking for work in the 80s. There are also people who don't take their own halacha into account and don't consider themselves Jewish when they have a Jewish mother and Jewish grandmother because they don't even realize it makes them 100% Jews and i'm sure there are many like this (I know 2 personally who didn't even consider themselves Jewish)


What I wrote is what I heard probably in the Late 1990's.