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Save Western Civilization => Save Europe => Topic started by: TorahZionist on August 09, 2007, 08:19:04 AM
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/131379
Dutch MP Calls For Banning Koran as 'Fascist Book'
(IsraelNN.com) A right-wing Member of Parliament from Holland has called for a ban on the Koran, which he said encourages murder and rape of non-Muslims. Geert Wilders described the Muslim holy book as "fascist" and compared it to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf.
Wilders, whose party holds nine seats in the 150-member Dutch parliament, wrote in the De Volkskrant newspaper, "I am fed up with Islam in the Netherlands: no more Muslim immigrants allowed. I am fed up with the worship of Allah and Mohammed in the Netherlands: no more mosques." He also declared that "there is no such thing as a moderate Islam."
Wilders said parts of the Koran "call on Muslims to oppress, persecute or kill Christians, Jews, dissidents and non-believers, to beat and rape women and to establish an Islamic state by force."
Wilders wrote the letter after a recent attack on a local politician who founded a group backing those who renounce Islam.
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This righteous man deserves 110% support. A glimmer of hope in Europe, at last!
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Wow, I didn't know there was a JTF member serving in the Dutch Parliament.
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Wow, this guy has his head in the right place! Maybe all hope is not lost in Europe! I've never heard a politician ANYWHERE speak so honestly and so truthfully about Islam.
His policies for Muslims is the same as the policies that should be developed in EVERY Western country.
Let's call it the "Three Pillars of Western Treatment of Islam"
First pillar: No muslim immigration
Second pillar: Islam is made illegal, mosques are made illegal and Qurans are banned
(this pillar has inherent in it the self-deportation of Muslims)
Third pillar: The motto "There is no moderate Islam"
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This righteous man deserves 110% support. A glimmer of hope in Europe, at last!
What about France? I thought Sarkozy was supposed to be better than Chirac?
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Sarkozy is a joke. If he ran in the U.S. he would just be a typical Democrat.
The first thing he did when he took office was suck up to the Moozies and he said that he would represent all of them.
He appointed an anti-Israel foreign secretary to Israel.
The guy is a schmuck.
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Kol hakovod to this man. Hats off to him. I've been telling that to my Member of Parliament for the past 4 years now and, of course he's too taken in by "political correctness", says nothing...
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More on this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123330
Dutch Lawmaker Calls on Netherlands to 'Ban the Koran'
by Hana Levi Julian
(IsraelNN.com) The leader of Holland’s extreme right-wing Freedom Party this week called for a ban on the Koran, the document upon which Islam is based.
Dutch Member of Parliament Geert Wilders made the call in a letter published in the De Volksrant newspaper that began, “I have been saying this for years: there is no such thing as a moderate Islam.”
Wilders, whose Freedom Party holds nine of the 150 parliamentary seats in the Netherlands, added that sections of the Koran “call on Muslims to oppress, persecute or kill Christians, Jews, dissidents and non-believers, to beat and rape women and to establish an Islamic state by force.”
Wilders wrote in his letter that he was “fed up with Islam in the Netherlands” and calling for an end to Muslim immigration. “I am fed up with the worship of Allah and Mohammed in the Netherlands. No more mosques!” he wrote.
The Dutch lawmaker’s letter came after an attack on a young local politician who had founded a group to support people who leave Islam. According to the European Jewish Press, Eshan Jami was not “visibly injured” in the attack, but both he and Wilders are now protected by a special security detail.
The Freedom Party chairman railed against Jami’s attackers in the letter, urging Dutch parliamentarians to “Ban this wretched book like [Adolf Hitler’s infamous] ‘Mein Kampf’ is banned! Send a signal to Jami’s attackers and other Islamic radicals that the Koran cannot be used in the Netherlands as an inspiration or an excuse for violence.”
Dutch attorney Els Lucas responded to the letter by filing a complaint against the legislator, charging him with “insulting a section of the community” – a crime that carries a prison term of up to two years along with a fine of up to 16,750 euros.
“I think he has gone too far. It is unseemly that a member of parliament expresses himself like this,” Lucas told the ANP news agency.
It is not known whether the Netherlands Public Prosecutor’s Office will take the matter to court.
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Sarkozy is a joke. If he ran in the U.S. he would just be a typical Democrat.
The first thing he did when he took office was suck up to the Moozies and he said that he would represent all of them.
He appointed an anti-Israel foreign secretary to Israel.
The guy is a schmuck.
.........basically just another typical, smelly, snail-eating, white-flag waving, Jew-hating FROG!
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Is Israel National News considered a good newspaper/site?
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Yes compared to the others in Israel
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More on this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/
Dutch Lawmaker Calls on Netherlands to 'Ban the Koran'
by Hana Levi Julian
(IsraelNN.com) The leader of Holland’s extreme right-wing Freedom Party this week called for a ban on the Koran, the document upon which Islam is based.
Dutch Member of Parliament Geert Wilders made the call in a letter published in the De Volksrant newspaper that began, “I have been saying this for years: there is no such thing as a moderate Islam.”
Wilders, whose Freedom Party holds nine of the 150 parliamentary seats in the Netherlands, added that sections of the Koran “call on Muslims to oppress, persecute or kill Christians, Jews, dissidents and non-believers, to beat and rape women and to establish an Islamic state by force.”
Wilders wrote in his letter that he was “fed up with Islam in the Netherlands” and calling for an end to Muslim immigration. “I am fed up with the worship of Allah and Mohammed in the Netherlands. No more mosques!” he wrote.
The Dutch lawmaker’s letter came after an attack on a young local politician who had founded a group to support people who leave Islam. According to the European Jewish Press, Eshan Jami was not “visibly injured” in the attack, but both he and Wilders are now protected by a special security detail.
The Freedom Party chairman railed against Jami’s attackers in the letter, urging Dutch parliamentarians to “Ban this wretched book like [Adolf Hitler’s infamous] ‘Mein Kampf’ is banned! Send a signal to Jami’s attackers and other Islamic radicals that the Koran cannot be used in the Netherlands as an inspiration or an excuse for violence.”
Dutch attorney Els Lucas responded to the letter by filing a complaint against the legislator, charging him with “insulting a section of the community” – a crime that carries a prison term of up to two years along with a fine of up to 16,750 euros.
“I think he has gone too far. It is unseemly that a member of parliament expresses himself like this,” Lucas told the ANP news agency.
It is not known whether the Netherlands Public Prosecutor’s Office will take the matter to court.
Interesting article. I suggest we refrain from celebrations about the new found salvation of Europe until we see if this guy will be prosecuted and thrown in jail for stating the truth.
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Is Israel National News considered a good newspaper/site?
Well even a South African news site is reporting it: http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2161111,00.html
They say that the report is from AFP.
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Thanks TZ, I sent both articles to my MP. I hope these "Progressives" wake up soon... the blinders are going to kill us all...
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Sarkozy is a joke. If he ran in the U.S. he would just be a typical Democrat.
The first thing he did when he took office was suck up to the Moozies and he said that he would represent all of them.
He appointed an anti-Israel foreign secretary to Israel.
The guy is a schmuck.
Sarkovsky = Avigdor Lieberman
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Geert Wilders has to walk around with four body guards at all times. The guy gets death threats on a daily basis. He has some real chutzpa to say what he says in a country with an overwhelming Muslim population...
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Thought you'd like this link: http://www.groepwilders.com/Viewdata.aspx?ID=36&CID=14
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Excellant. I agree with him 100% and he should be commended for his bravery. In a country with a sizeable Muslim population that took guts.
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I just went to the website and I am sure he is 100% better than any politician we have in this country.
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I just went to the website and I am sure he is 100% better than any politician we have in this country.
Add this country to that list as well. All of our politicians are "To get along...go along" deballed ignorami...
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Most Dutch do not like Muslims at all. It's the politicians that push for them beiong their. I must say this is a rightious MP who deserves support in Europe.
I agree but sadly, the support must come from the commoner because Europe as we know it is dead. They allowed themselves to become dependant on the NWO model and have wilfully allowed themselves to given up their soverign nation status to be part of the EU. Turning back the clock will be an act short of Civil War....Baruch HaShem...
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Zionism wants one strip of land. Islam wants the entire world. Finally people are starting to see which side is sane and which side is insane.
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Wow I think I might be moving to the netherlands soon...
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He seems like the real deal, but the Dutch will have to wake up soon before it's to late.
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(http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/George_Bush_Biography.jpg)
Our President says Islam is a religion of peace. I'm moving....
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Your President is an Olmert. He's a traitor....may he rot. Just another CFR Globalist trying to do his job by moving this world towards an International Socialist State.....imo
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This guy has been around for a while, I'll see if I can dig up some of the older reports, the oldest I can find atm is one from early last month about him trying to bring in a law under which anyway seen in public in the netherlands wearing a hijab or burqa qould recieve a 3000 euro fine or a 12 day prisons sentence. Here is that article: http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2007/07/burqa_ban_unlikely_to_get_majo.php
He's had to live under protection for a long time, there have been quite a few Islamic attempts on his life and I believe also on the life of his wife.
Here are a few old articles about him:
http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?channel_id=1&story_id=27385
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article393161.ece
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52502-2005Jan31.html
http://notourist.wordpress.com/tag/geert-wilders/ (this is a left winger attacking him)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4616664.stm
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MarZutra
Very well texted indeed !
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Hope he doesnt end up like Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh! :'(
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Hope he doesnt end up like Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh! :'(
He has at least two bodygaurds with him 24 hours a day.
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Why would he need body guards, I thought islam meant peace ? (Sarcasm off )
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He'll need them. Sadly, the world should look at that example and learn from it. It is a no brainer that Muslims are savages and Islam is a blood thirsty expansionist cult. The fact that he, or anyone, should have to suffer this because of these guests in their country being so intolerant is an example to the world... THEY MUST GO!!!
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Hope he doesnt end up like Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh! :'(
He has at least two bodygaurds with him 24 hours a day.
Just noticed that you were talking about "Theo Van Gogh", when he was murdered the muslims attached a list to his body of other "infidels" who must be killed, Geert Wilders was on that list.
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I wholeheartedly support Mr Geert Wilder's call for banning the present-day Q'uran, and his reasons for it. The Dutch aren't quickly given to ban any books, but we have banned hate-speech very consistently. I have much admiration for Mr Wilder's constancy in his stance, for which his life now is so endangered that he has security people on his side at all times and can no longer move about his own country freely. That's the price Dutch politicans like him now have to pay to exercise our country's traditional values of freedom of speech. His fellow-MP Ms Ayaan Hirshi-Ali has already had to leave her adopted country and now lives in the United States, where she is still protected around-the-clock.
Our cineast Theo van Gogh was assassinated for always speaking his mind on any subject and for making the movie "Submission" with Ms Hirsi-Ali.
Meanwhile a muslim rapper is openly issuing death threats via the internet and in his music saying that he would like to personally put a bullet through Mr Wilder's head if he ever met him.' The muslims in The Netherlands - guests in our country who were received courteously -- thus continue to abuse our hospitality and quite frankly, many of us believe these guests have definitely overstayed their welcome.
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It is good to see them finally standing up and recognizing that "multiculturalism" and its cohort socialism are sham's to the N'th degree. May it expand through Europe. England already is loosing 4000 per month now because their corrupt politicians are not doing the will of the people and continually bankrupting the nation while keeping the borders open to all the Islamics and Turdworld trash.
Nice to see them finally starting to take back their nations. May it expand to the government sending in busses on some Friday services....rounding them up and driving them to the airports yards, finger printing them, taking away their passports and actively deporting them back to the sands of Arabia from which their evil cult began. That is a "progressive" way to deal with this farsical "war on terror".
Ban the Quraan then ban Islam.....period, end..full stop!
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Mr Wilders has so much support for his stand among the general public in The Netherlands that the latest opinion polls show that he would get 15 parliamentary seats if an election were to be held this week. A Dutch-Algerian muslim 'rapper' called "Appa" has threatened that if he were ever to meet Wilders, he would put a bullet through his head. He has also composed a song and put it on the internet to this effect. It is widely feared among conservative voters that Wilders will also be assassinated by another one of those deeply mysterious 'lone-gunman assassins' with vague motives such as the one who gunned down Professor Pim Fortuyn, whose new party was also making massive gains because Fortuyn also was warning against muslimisation of The Netherlands before he was gunned down in broad daylight in a broadcasting-studio's parking lot right under the eyes of the 'security' which had been appointed to protect Fortuyn. Wilders has not had a normal life for several years ever since death threats were uttered against him and Ayaan Hirshi Ali, a Dutch parliamentarian who had to flee The Netherlands for the USA after she had published a movie called "Submission" together with the (also assinated) Dutch movie-maker Theo van Gogh. The Netherlands normally averages about 12 murders a year so the extent of these events can be easily assessed from this simple statistic. To summarise, I fear for Wilders' life. He's a deeply courageous man.
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Yes I know something of him and his party, because his country is nex to mine. He seems to be a really great politician. He wrote a letter with the whole truth and he didn't feel ashamed to say what everyone in this forum thinks. The former leader of his party was shot on the street. But I don't know if it was a muslim. But it's most likely, because the whole party is against islam. They gain about 10 percent in the countrywide elections.
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islam bad.LOL
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Strip the religion protection from Islam and treat it as cult it's; or subversive treasonous politicall ideology of our enemies like Comunism in fifties or Nazism. Remember waht Britts done to Lord How-How.
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Geert Wilders Freedom Party -- website - in English:
http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=402&Itemid=118
http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=33&Itemid=98
He also featured on CNN's Christiane Amanpour programme this week and discussed his call to ban the Q'uran with her.
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I showed my local Member of Parliament many examples of how and where the Quraan violates Canada's own farcical "hate" legislation but sadly we have no politicians who have the testicles to stand up and voice the logic to ban the Quraan here as well. One need only give examples from its pages and the Hadith etc. no need to be very vocal just simply show the specific areas.... Sadly, Oswald Spengler was largely correct in his "decline of the west".
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Liberal Dutch MP Geert Wilders lodges formal charges against death-threats by muslim-rappers
The Hague, The Netherlands. August 28 2007 -- Dutch parliamentarian and leader of the 9-member Freedom Party today lodged formal charges at the local police station against various local muslim-rappers who issue very specific death threats against him in their songs, which are widely circulated via YouTube on the internet.
Wilders - who has been under police security ever since the death of Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh by muslim radical Mohammed Bouyeri -- said the terrorising texts in these threat-songs are 'too loathsome for words' and he finds 'the songs terrifying.' Wilders on Wednesday lodged formal charges at the police station in The Hague. He lodges complaints there regularly - he gets death threats every day, but these rappers are creating a hate-speech atmosphere bordering on terrorism which targets him specifically, he said on his website.
Some songs have names like "Geert Wilders Funeral, and "Who is next", also featuring the murdered Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn and Theo van Gogh. "Anybody who even talks about muslims is gunned down, and if you go on like this, you will be next,' some of the words threaten him.
One rapper ends his song with a pistol shot followed by his name, and also shows imagies with the text RIP Wilders and a picture of the murdered Van Gogh.
He finds these latest threats against him 'really rather sad. If they don't agree with my viewpoints, they should come forward with arguments instead of threats. This is just loathsome."
LINK to original Dutch-language news story:
http://msn.anp.nl/msn/nieuws.do?action=article&id=4719375
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Haha......that is fabulous. I wish our politicians here had the stones to do what this fellow is doing.
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All Arabs will soon be exiled from Europe!
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All Arabs will soon be exiled from Europe!
I pray it happens but it's wishful thinking. The europeans (like most liberals) would rather die than become 'racist'.
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Agreed. The sad fact is that one day country by country will suddenly wake up to have a Muslim President or Prime Minster elected to office. Bat Yeor really makes it clear in "Eurabia"...
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NDP, BNP, French National Front, etc... all need to Immediently win elections.
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NDP, BNP, French National Front, etc... all need to Immediently win elections.
NDP are neonazis, beisides Germany deserves to be roughed up by the muslims; And don't say "All Arabs will soon be exiled from Europe!" it's rascist okaay... say "All Muslims will soon be exiled from Europe!" you'll get rid with Algerian Berbers, Pakis, Albanians, Turks, shwartza muslims, and white apostates too!!! ::) ;D
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Very good. Expelling Muslims rather than Arabs. I sincerely hope that this idea spreads to Canada. This country is going to be called Canadakstan or Canadoon within the 15-20 years. "European" or culturally Canadian people are not having children but with the open borders and continual injection of Black Island/Africans and Arabian/European Muslims is truly tragic. Our media is sincerely tragic in its denial of factually correct information with Stalinist "politically correct" disinformation.
With the above mentioned NDP, I thought you were speaking of Canada's New "Democratic" Party: Socialist party. My they never get into power, this country will sink like the Titanic should that happen.....
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The Arab culture is more deadly than their religion. THats why we must report them and attempt to civilzie them first (Iraqi war). Arabs under any religion will be vicious, which is why they need to be deported immediently.
Its rascist
Oh please...... http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=8215.msg76290#msg76290
Judge not lest ye be judged
beisides Germany deserves to be roughed up by the muslims; And don't say "All Arabs will soon be exiled from Europe!" it's rascist okaay... say "All Muslims will soon be exiled from Europe!"
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What about Arab Christians like Brigitte Gabriel, Joseph Farrah and Walid Shoebat? It is my opinion that it is Islam that is the problem in one respect and International Socialism: Globalism with the ineptness of Liberalism is the other major problem. Nevermind the Arabs were savages before Islam and Islam didn't create the Arabs but the Arabs who created Islam.... you win... ;)
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What about Arab Christians like Brigitte Gabriel, Joseph Farrah and Walid Shoebat? It is my opinion that it is Islam that is the problem in one respect and International Socialism: Globalism with the ineptness of Liberalism is the other major problem. Nevermind the Arabs were savages before Islam and Islam didn't create the Arabs but the Arabs who created Islam.... you win... ;)
Yes the Arabs' race should all be kicked out. Every last one of them.
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I could add another to that list based on about 300 years of a very dismal track record in many ways surpassing the Arabian in shame..... What is happening in Europe with the Arabs is largely happening here buy another sub-cultured being by and large...imo
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99% of a-rabs are muslim anyway; and they're many not arabic muslims too; beside it's sound better as mayority of people are not race aware.
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I wonder what this MP would say about the Hadith if he has such views on the Koran? I'd like to see one Leftwing nation ban the Koran.... Should that ever happen, the rest would follow suit. imo