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Title: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: TorahZionist on August 12, 2007, 03:45:56 AM
BS"D

 

S.O.S. - Save Our Sisters!

 

                 Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son

 

An emergency appeal has reached our office at the “Chemla Fund,” which deals with saving Jewish women from Arabs and returning them to our people.

 

This woman, Sara (not her real name), in her 50's, has been married for many years to an Israeli Arab and has three children. Some years ago, Sara went to live with her husband in the city of Shechem, but when her husband was exiled to Jordan because of anti-Israeli activities, two of the children left them and came back to the Jewish fold. Today they are married to nice Jewish boys. Sara and her other child, though, left for Jordan with the Arab terrorist.

 

Sara, too, has tried for some years now to return to the Jewish people with her other child. Finally, after coming to Israel to “visit” her two other children, Sara has made the break to freedom!

 

The Chemla Organization has placed Sara and her other child in a safe house, but we need your help to pay expenses, such as housing, food, clothing, documentation and others.

 

Now is your chance to take part in this great Mitzvah of "Matir Asurim" (saving a Jewish prisoner). Do not sit on the sidelines - Help Sara and her son return to their people!

 

We at the “Chemla Fund” need only $5000 to give Sara the emergency help she needs to save her and her family. Be a partner and give NOW!

 

Donate on-line at:  www.thestoryofhope.org 

For more information, call Levi: 972 52 8693845   

 
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 12, 2007, 04:54:07 AM
So we're supposed to be in favor of Jews who marry an Arab?
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 12, 2007, 05:12:58 AM
I believe she married him on her own volition. That is not something which finds favor in my eyes. I do believe the people who are running this chessed org mean well though. I believe supporting JTF financially is more worthwhile.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: newman on August 12, 2007, 05:15:18 AM
She did make a seriously dumb mistake. All the same you can't leave a daughter of Israel in the clutches of Arab pigs.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 12, 2007, 05:25:03 AM
I believe she married him on her own volition. That is not something which finds favor in my eyes. I do believe the people who are running this chessed org mean well though. I believe supporting JTF financially is more worthwhile.


I agree.  This must be used to show that Jews in Israel should never marry an Arab.  She intermarried by choice.  It shows that being Jewish means nothing to her.   
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: TorahZionist on August 12, 2007, 05:37:01 AM
I got this e-mail from Yeshivat HaRa'ayon Hayehudi which is the Yeshiva that was setup by Rabbi Meir Kahane HY"D zt"l. Chaim supports the Yeshiva and it's Rosh Yeshiva who is operating the organisation that deals with these things.

I suggest going to this website to learn more about this organisation: http://www.thestoryofhope.org/

We should remember the only reason that Jewish girls are getting involved with arab pigs is because of the self-hating Israeli education system.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: DownwithIslam on August 12, 2007, 05:41:19 AM
i would gladly support it if I could. Most people on this site are too young to support groups financially. I am still a student and live with my parents. If I have any extra dough, I will send it to JTF.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 12, 2007, 05:42:09 AM
I got this e-mail from Yeshivat HaRa'ayon Hayehudi which is the Yeshiva that was setup by Rabbi Meir Kahane HY"D zt"l. Chaim supports the Yeshiva and it's Rosh Yeshiva who is operating the organisation that deals with these things.

I suggest going to this website to learn more about this organisation: http://www.thestoryofhope.org/

We should remember the only reason that Jewish girls are getting involved with arab pigs is because of the self-hating Israeli education system.


The goal be to not allow them to marry Arabs in the first place.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: TorahZionist on August 12, 2007, 05:48:25 AM
I agree, but we have to help the ones who already have made the mistake.

Here's an interesting page from that website:
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Did you know that thousands of Jewish women are living in Arab villages??
Did you know that inter-marriage is a huge problem in Israel??
Did you know that there are hundreds of girls from broken homes roaming the streets??

 
This problem has been going on for years.
In Israel cities like Haifa, Aco, Lod, Yafo, and Ramla mixed marriages are an everyday occurrence.

All to often-Jewish women meet their Arab counterpart in the Universities, disco, bars, and beaches.
Under a disguise name Achmad becomes Avraham, Mohammed-Moshe until a relation develops, and by then for most it is to late.
Many are taken to Arab villages were the women are abused and beaten becoming to frighten to ever leave,
most are never heard from again.

Girls from broken homes, some as young as 14 years old,
today tragically are left to roam the streets sleeping wherever, many turn to drugs and prostitution.

The problem left un-check is unfortunately growing.
These girls, left to themselves are without hope.

Shall we leave these Jewish women without hope?

The "Charity of Light Fund" backed by leading Rabbis has been working tireless for the past years trying to save these girls from their fate.

We are giving the girls a chance at life- possibly the only chance they will ever get!
 
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 12, 2007, 06:06:13 AM
No, the source of the problem needs to be stopped immediately. 

Was Ben-Gurion the one who allowed these problems to begin with? 

Conservatives in Israel need to make this a national issue.  Maybe then, will Jews in Israel stop voting for politicians who betray them and make them less safer. 
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: kellymaureen on August 12, 2007, 06:11:42 AM
When they say "arab" do they mean muslim?  Thats very sad that she married one if thats the case, but she should be helped if she realizes her mistake and wants to make ammends now.  Why any non muslim woman in this day and age would marry or even be involved with one of them is beyond me.  There are any number of websites dedicatd to the horrors that non muslim women face once married to these monsters, and an equal number of sites dedicated to children who have been kidnapped by the muslim father and taken from western civilization into one of their backward islamic toilet countries.  I guess no amount of warning or education works where this is concerned.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: mord on August 12, 2007, 07:18:26 AM
Most of these women marry  the arabs for   money they have nice villas i wish some of the bleeding hearts could see these villas owned by the arabs,i have.The arabs drive mercedes i have seen this with my own eyes so these women marry the arabs for money.While the Israeli men are in the army  the arabs are going to college or starting a career.Nowthese women expect people to give them money ,let them think twice before marrying a moslem
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: kellymaureen on August 12, 2007, 07:30:04 AM
Oh I didnt realize thats how it is, any woman who marries for money is scum, go to college and make your own money!  How little self respect do you have to marry someone just because they have money.  If thats her case, then maybe just helping the child out, its not the fault of the child.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: mord on August 12, 2007, 07:48:15 AM
True i'm all for helping the children out,and yes in these days if possible women should go to college.You can'nt trust a man ;) :laugh:
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: kellymaureen on August 12, 2007, 08:04:34 AM
Oh I trust them, but if your goal is to be rich, have some self respect and make your own way instead of marrying it.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: mord on August 12, 2007, 08:05:29 AM
Oh I trust them, but if your goal is to be rich, have some self respect and make your own way instead of marrying it.
I totally agree
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 12, 2007, 08:09:15 AM
   Shouldn't this be the job of the Israeli police to ensure her safety. I know that in the US, they put people under protective custody when their lives are in danger. Of course the Israeli government does not do its job when it comes to protecting Jewish citizens. When it's an Arab they will bend over backwards. This situation sure presents an ethical dilemma. I will do some more research into this.
   My big question is how she embraces Judaism now. So returned to Israel so that is a step. If she is secular and is only using the religion for her own advantage it's not great, but at least I can understand since I'm not that religious. If she still hates Judaism, that is another story.
   Am I correct to assume that she married and Arab MUSLIM and not an Arab JEW?
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: mord on August 12, 2007, 08:13:00 AM
I'm pretty sure it was a moslem
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: cosmokramer on August 12, 2007, 11:28:29 AM
But then again, many Israeli Jewish women get tricked. Yusef becomes Yosef, Ibrahim becomes Avraham. You get the picture.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: dawntreader on August 12, 2007, 11:57:35 AM
I think there needs to be compassion here. It is a Mitzvah to help bring Jews back to the fold.  In this woman's case, who knows how she (and her kids) might have been abused? Lots of things are hidden in Muslim marriages. (You know the Q'uran actually advocates beating one's wife).

Just because someone makes a poor choice in life does not mean they should be written off forever. As the Tanach says in Yechezchial 18:21-25 (Taken from the JPS version)

"21
    But if the wicked turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all My statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22
    None of his transgressions that he hath committed shall be remembered against him; for his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23
    Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the L-rd GOD; and not rather that he should return from his ways, and live?
24
    But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? None of his righteous deeds that he hath done shall be remembered; for his trespass that he trespassed, and for his sin that he hath sinned, for them shall he die.
25
    Yet ye say: The way of the L-rd is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel: Is it My way that is not equal? is it not your ways that are unequal?"

So I think helping this woman who has considered her ways and wishes to return would actually be the right thing to do.

Let's not have cold hearts.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: kahaneloyalist on August 12, 2007, 12:09:21 PM
You should all know that Rabbi Kahane zt'l set up this organization and it used to be part of the Kach party, and it is a Mitzvah to rescue Jews who have intermarried even if its there own fault.


Dawntreader you are 100% right, what do you think of making a movie about this organization which rescues Jewish women from Arabs?
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: Sarah on August 12, 2007, 03:02:28 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't understand whats happened to her.....even after reading it 2 times. :-\ :-X
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 12, 2007, 03:19:06 PM
Many times when these Jewish women wish to get divorced from their Arab husbands their lives are in serious danger.

There are many Jewish organizations set up to try to save their lives and bring them and their children back to Judaism and to safety.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: newman on August 12, 2007, 03:22:16 PM
A Kahanist government should implement a law that any farshtunken arab who so much as looks at a Jewess is drawn and quartered.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 12, 2007, 03:39:03 PM
A Kahanist government should implement a law that any farshtunken arab who so much as looks at a Jewess is drawn and quartered.

Rav Kahane just tried to make intermarriage illegal and he was called a Nazi.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: Joe Schmo on August 12, 2007, 03:42:24 PM

Rav Kahane just tried to make intermarriage illegal and he was called a Nazi.

People that use the word 'nazi' in such a way, use it as a substitute for thinking.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: judeanoncapta on August 12, 2007, 03:48:08 PM
It's so stupid.

This is the logic.

The Bible says Jews and Non-Jews should not marry.

The Nazis thought Jews and Non-Jews should not marry.

Therefore the Bible is a Nazi Book.

I've heard atheists say this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: newman on August 12, 2007, 03:54:08 PM
It's so stupid.

This is the logic.

The Bible says Jews and Non-Jews should not marry.

The Nazis thought Jews and Non-Jews should not marry.

Therefore the Bible is a Nazi Book.

I've heard atheists say this kind of thing.

By their reasoning, because David Koresh said "Don't steal" the Torah is a Branch Davidian book.

The left have adopted the tactics of the medievel church. Instead of using the word 'heretic', they say 'racist, nazi or homophobe'.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 12, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
   I want to turn a blind eye to this, but it disturbs me.
   The problem is that good Jewish women marry Arab Muslim terrorists and then good Jews like us are left without wives. I have always been hesitant to ask a girl out because I never want to make her feel uncomfortable. If I had a wife I would never think about beating her.
   I recently did something really stupid(skydiving). I feel that hashem came through and saved my life and now I owe him a debt for it. This is not a monetary debt that can be paid by donating money to some cause and I feel that to repay this debt I have to save someone's life. I'm still hoping to marry a virgin, and have concern that these women have been made dirty, but if I could save one of these Jewish ladies by marrying her, this might be a way to save her life. If I found one and brought her from Israel to the US, would the act of saving her life out weight the sin of taking her out of Israel? Would having a wife that could teach me Hebrew so I could someday return with her justify this?
   I'm having a difficult time trying to convince myself never to get in one of those planes. It's amazing how putting my life in danger gives me the feeling that I'm close to hashem. I'm guessing that is why I do it. This has not been the first stupid thing that I've ever done, so if I find my wife, I feel that she will save my life.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: dawntreader on August 12, 2007, 05:59:40 PM
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I'm still hoping to marry a virgin, and have concern that these women have been made dirty,

Actually, there is a place in the Prophets where HaShem commanded one of the prophets to go out and actually marry a woman who had been a whore. Was she dirty? Yes, because of her sin. But! It was a physical example of G-d's view of Israel. G-d was the husband, and Israel was the dirty whore...but HaShem still loved her.

In the same way, the prophet married the whore and loved her.

It was G-d who made Israel clean and forgave her. In the same way, those who are righteous can take those who are dirty, love them, forgive them, and make them clean again.

Then no one can judge those whom HaShem, (Or we) have chosen to forgive.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 13, 2007, 04:19:21 AM
A Kahanist government should implement a law that any farshtunken arab who so much as looks at a Jewess is drawn and quartered.

Rav Kahane just tried to make intermarriage illegal and he was called a Nazi.


Were any polls taken to see how Jews in Israel felt about it rather than the Bolshevik government just ignoring them?
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: takebackourtemple on August 13, 2007, 07:49:56 AM
Rav Kahane just tried to make intermarriage illegal and he was called a Nazi.

   It's been said and I'll say it again. Rav Kahane was a great man.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: kahaneloyalist on August 13, 2007, 08:43:58 AM
A Kahanist government should implement a law that any farshtunken arab who so much as looks at a Jewess is drawn and quartered.

Rav Kahane just tried to make intermarriage illegal and he was called a Nazi.


Were any polls taken to see how Jews in Israel felt about it rather than the Bolshevik government just ignoring them?

There have been many polls on the subject and I have never seen a poll where at least 93% of Jews didnt oppose intermarriage.In Israel mind you, in America most Reform Jews intermarry nowadays.
Title: Re: Emergency Appeal to Save a Jewish Woman and her Son
Post by: mord on August 13, 2007, 08:50:56 AM
True i'm all for helping the children out,and yes in these days if possible women should go to college.You can'nt trust a man ;) :laugh:


I wonder what Adam613 would think about that.


He would probably hate it,he beleives men can'nt trust women :laugh: