Thanks! The liquid in the electric cigarette, propolyene glycol, is a skin toxicant and causes liver damage when inhaled as a smoke.
Propylene glycol is also used in deodorants, foods, and the regular cigarettes and inhalers. Do you smoke? You would feel health benefits from switching to a vaporizer then getting off that, but it would be better to quit cold turkey.
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Post by: kyel on August 04, 2014, 12:51:37 PM
The only medical search I could find for toxicity of propylene glycol that said it was toxic were hippie or propaganda websites.
Upon reviewing the available toxicity information, the Agency has concluded that there are no endpoints of concern for oral, dermal, or inhalation exposure to propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol.
A review of the available data has shown propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol to be negative for carcinogenicity
Propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol were tested for mutagenic or genotoxic potential and found to be negative in a battery of studies:
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Post by: Israel Chai on August 04, 2014, 02:58:34 PM
Upon reviewing the available toxicity information, the Agency has concluded that there are no endpoints of concern for oral, dermal, or inhalation exposure to propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol.
A review of the available data has shown propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol to be negative for carcinogenicity
Propylene glycol and dipropylene glycol were tested for mutagenic or genotoxic potential and found to be negative in a battery of studies:
I don't know about toxic, if it is, it's below the level of discernable difference. You can't go to government health sites though, they're equally unreliable. Go to medical institutions' websites, and look for the effects of things when smoked, but also it is a skin toxicant in it's regular form.
It's not a comparison between that and cigarettes, because though cigarettes do have some, this is literally polypropylene glycol syrup.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for August 3, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: kyel on August 04, 2014, 03:40:15 PM
Cigarettes have 4000 chemicals. Electronic cigarettes have 3...if someone smokes cigarettes it is way better for than to go on the e-cigarettes. The only reason there is so much controversy about them is because the government is trying to make them look as bad as possible.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for August 3, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: kyel on August 04, 2014, 03:49:19 PM
Cigarettes have 4000 chemicals. Electronic cigarettes have 3...if someone smokes cigarettes it is way better for than to go on the e-cigarettes. The only reason there is so much controversy about them is because the government is trying to make them look as bad as possible. There is also e-cigarettes with only vegetable glycerin.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for August 3, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 04, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
Thanks
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Post by: kyel on August 05, 2014, 12:33:32 PM
Also, I used to smoke and smoker's really don't realize how much they are effecting others around them by how they smell and trust me you can't cover it up completely without changing your clothes and taking a shower. Atleast with the electronic cigarette people don't smell you from miles away. Also the carbon monoxide levels produced are non-relevant compared to cigarettes, since nothing is actually burning (which is one of the most damaging things to your body and blood when you inhale smoke)
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Post by: davinci on August 06, 2014, 10:38:26 AM
Shalom Chaim
May I do a little correction to your show? You said that Hillary's mother remarried but she was married to Hugh E. Rodham (Hillary's father) until 1993 when he died:
It was Hillary Clinton's grandmather Della Murray (Dorothy Howell Rudham's mother) who married a Jew in 1933 after she divorced with husband Edwin John Howell, Jr in 1926:
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Post by: Super Mentalita on August 06, 2014, 05:58:22 PM
Good show. I made a small donation and from now i will make a donation each month!
Title: Re: Ask JTF for August 3, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Super Mentalita on August 06, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
I still follow Geert Wilders work daily and it's a fact that he is still very pro-Israel and the views of the JTF and his views on the 'conflict' are quit the same. It's hard for a political party to find the perfect partner so i hope the JTF will still support him and his work. The last few weeks Geert Wilders called a lot of times on our president to kick out and/or lock up anti-semitic protesters and take away their paspoorts.
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Post by: Super Mentalita on August 06, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
Hi Chaim,
You may like Geert Wilders latest letter to ou weak president about the growing anti-semitism in Holland (08/05/14) (sorry for the bad translation but the message is lout and clear). http://www.pvv.nl/
Prime Minister, the Joint Declaration with the Jewish organizations that the Cabinet yesterday fielded about the growing anti-Semitism in Netherlands is a flut statement. There is an elephant in the room, but you refuse to see him.
Such slack behavior is a premier unworthy.
You are afraid of islam and therefore refuses to say what everyone knows: the greater the islam in Netherlands is, the greater the anti-Semitism.
"We are all responsible for ensuring that conflicts that set up right across the world do not lead to rising tension and conflicts between population groups in our Dutch society," says you. what a load of crap!
We are not responsible with each other; you are responsible! That the "conflicts that set up right across the world" lead to rising tension in Netherlands is due to the fact that you do not close our borders for people from Islamic countries, whereby you admits that the hatred for Jews, Christians, atheists and non-Muslims in General that the Islamic world, are now also features Netherlands spreads.
Put some on, Prime Minister: close the borders! Grab the islam to! Connect Jews haters and Isis-trailer on and turn them off. Do your duty and call it anti-Semitism to reduce back in Netherlands by islam.
Respectfully, Geert Wilders
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Post by: Israel Chai on August 12, 2014, 07:14:46 PM
You may like Geert Wilders latest letter to ou weak president about the growing anti-semitism in Holland (08/05/14) (sorry for the bad translation but the message is lout and clear). http://www.pvv.nl/
Prime Minister, the Joint Declaration with the Jewish organizations that the Cabinet yesterday fielded about the growing anti-Semitism in Netherlands is a flut statement. There is an elephant in the room, but you refuse to see him.
Such slack behavior is a premier unworthy.
You are afraid of islam and therefore refuses to say what everyone knows: the greater the islam in Netherlands is, the greater the anti-Semitism.
"We are all responsible for ensuring that conflicts that set up right across the world do not lead to rising tension and conflicts between population groups in our Dutch society," says you. what a load of crap!
We are not responsible with each other; you are responsible! That the "conflicts that set up right across the world" lead to rising tension in Netherlands is due to the fact that you do not close our borders for people from Islamic countries, whereby you admits that the hatred for Jews, Christians, atheists and non-Muslims in General that the Islamic world, are now also features Netherlands spreads.
Put some on, Prime Minister: close the borders! Grab the islam to! Connect Jews haters and Isis-trailer on and turn them off. Do your duty and call it anti-Semitism to reduce back in Netherlands by islam.
Respectfully, Geert Wilders
And of the Dutch that hate Jews? I say Geert can keep his letter if we can keep kosher slaughter and circumcision.
Title: Re: Ask JTF for August 3, 2014 is ready, baruch Hashem
Post by: Tag-MehirTzedek on August 12, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
Cigarettes have 4000 chemicals. Electronic cigarettes have 3...if someone smokes cigarettes it is way better for than to go on the e-cigarettes. The only reason there is so much controversy about them is because the government is trying to make them look as bad as possible.
Very true. they arebt too bad. I smoke them sometimes. I wont touch the regular cigaretts though. The e cigs arent bad and have some good flavors to them. + its not real smoke its water.vapor.
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Post by: Israel Chai on August 12, 2014, 08:17:10 PM
Very true. they arebt too bad. I smoke them sometimes. I wont touch the regular cigaretts though. The e cigs arent bad and have some good flavors to them. + its not real smoke its water.vapor.
Ugh I'm smoking this polypropylene glycol liquid now, and to start with it's being cooked at very high temperatures and what you inhale burns out your cilia, the vapor goes further and burns more, and it tastes like toxic sludge and overall makes my throat hurt more than 10 cigarettes.
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Post by: muman613 on August 12, 2014, 08:54:42 PM
Baruch Hashem I never had an addiction to cigarettes (tobacco)... It ranks as one of the worst (next to heroin and cocaine) as far as addiction goes.