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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ChabadKahanist on August 11, 2014, 10:54:28 AM
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That nobody not even Chaim is willing to take on the issue of all the Russian Goyim that have been brought into Israel & given citizenship.
Chaim & other bonafide Jews are denied & all these [censored] are welcome with open arms.
What gives?
Did we fight for the cause of Soviet Jews to have Goyim come here?
Again I urge any of you if you care to see www.pogrom.org.il to see what the plague of the Russian Goyim has done to Israel.(This site was a made by a bonafide Russian Jew not a [censored])
Please Chaim & everybody I am urging you to make an issue of this.
Why is everybody afraid to touch this issue.
I am a lone voice & can not do it alone but if others raise the issue it will be heard.
Together we can make a difference & let the world know about this.
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It seems that you are preoccupied with that single issue. The vast majority of non-Jews that came from Russia are integrating well in the Israeli society, have a Jewish father, many undergo giur, most of them serve in the army, contribute to Israel's high-tech economy and consider Israel their homeland. You should focus your hatred on Sub-Saharan interloppers and "Israeli" ayrabs dreaming of wiping Israel off the map.
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I think I know where Chabad Kahanist is coming from. I think since many of these types of Russians came to Eretz Yisrael, many more brothels opened up, drugs, crime, and non Kosher restaurants serving pork/shrimp started popping up.
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It seems that you are preoccupied with that single issue. The vast majority of non-Jews that came from Russia are integrating well in the Israeli society, have a Jewish father, many undergo giur, most of them serve in the army, contribute to Israel's high-tech economy and consider Israel their homeland. You should focus your hatred on Sub-Saharan interloppers and "Israeli" ayrabs dreaming of wiping Israel off the map.
I am not preoccupied at all their fathers or mot Jews ipso facto they are NOT Jews.
See www.pogrom.org.il before you make such statements.
These people are every much as bit of a problem as the Arabs & the Africans.
No African ever called my relatives Zhid or made pogroms against them.
Shame on you & anybody else who says I am obessesed.
I was in the JDL in the old days I sacraficed what the hell did you ever do.
I did not put myself on the line so these Goyim can come here.
I did not come here to be in New Africa or in New Russia I came to be in a Jewish state that welcomes Jews NOT one that disallows bonafide Jews like Chaim but welcomes thes [censored] infested uncircumised Non-Jews.
Non Jewish mother means Non Jew period get it.
Lack of a halachic conversion means Non Jew also do you get that?
Apparently you don't!!!!!!
Very few do giyur & of those that did quite a few were pasuled by the rabbanut & for good reason.
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I think I know where Chabad Kahanist is coming from. I think since many of these types of Russians came to Eretz Yisrael, many more brothels opened up, drugs, crime, and non Kosher restaurants serving pork/shrimp started popping up.
Dr. Dan you know exactly where I am coming from & it must be made as much of an issue as the Sudanese & other Africans.
Plus swastikas showing up on shuls & shul vandalism including Torahs desecrated all by Manch's beloved Russian Goyim with the Jewish fathers & Shiksa mothers
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Dr. Dan you know exactly where I am coming from & it must be made as much of an issue as the Sudanese & other Africans.
Plus swastikas showing up on shuls & shul vandalism including Torahs desecrated all by Manch's beloved Russian Goyim with the Jewish fathers & Shiksa mothers
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It is exactly the same issue as the illegal aliens as it is for the Russian goyim.
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Dr. Dan you know exactly where I am coming from & it must be made as much of an issue as the Sudanese & other Africans.
Plus swastikas showing up on shuls & shul vandalism including Torahs desecrated all by Manch's beloved Russian Goyim with the Jewish fathers & Shiksa mothers
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It is exactly the same issue as the illegal aliens as it is for the Russian goyim.
Exactly my point & they too must go!!!!!
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You're obviously a one trick pony! :laugh:
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You're obviously a one trick pony! :laugh:
Not at all I am not a one issue Jew like you I care.
I did it all including guarding shuls & cemetaries
These Russian Goyim are every much as big of a threat as the Africans.
You are obviously blind I live here you don't I see what scum they are,
Go to Tel Aviv & see all the whore houses,drug dealers & other criminal activities.
South Tel Aviv was a sewer before the Africans came the Russians destroyed it already with all all their criminal activities.
My brother in law lives there & says life was hell before the schvartzers arrived
You are the one trick pony if you can not see this & a fool to boot!!!
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Apparently many of them become neo-nazis- yes, neo-nazis in Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo)
These scum have the nerve to threaten Jews in the Jewish state. I say deport them back to Rassiya immediately and take their money, let's just say have them "contribute" to defending the Jewish state and preventing more of their fellow scumbags from entering.
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Not at all I am not a one issue Jew like you I care.
I did it all including guarding shuls & cemetaries
These Russian Goyim are every much as big of a threat as the Africans.
You are obviously blind I live here you don't I see what scum they are,
Go to Tel Aviv & see all the whore houses,drug dealers & other criminal activities.
South Tel Aviv was a sewer before the Africans came the Russians destroyed it already with all all their criminal activities.
My brother in law lives there & says life was hell before the schvartzers arrived
You are the one trick pony if you can not see this & a fool to boot!!!
Hey, you are the one putting words in my mouth. Why would you think that I approve of nazis who are russians, arabs or any other kind?! Specifically, I think that Russians or Arabs or Jews (yes there are Jews as well) who are caught drawing swastikas or assaulting Jews, should be killed. That's clear?
I am not approving drugs or whore houses. But I am sure, there are not only russians involved in this - ayrabs, sephardic Jews, africans - you name it. I've seen a documentary about police nabbing 65 Afrikan drug dealers in South TA. I've head that some of the most keen patronizers of the brothels are Hasidic Jews. Is this true?
I agree, South TA has become a sewer, but I think your focus solely on Russians is misplaced. Your tone is offensive to many Russian Jews who have friends or relatives who are ethnicall Russians and who live in Israel or in Russia. Therefore, you zealotry is going to hurt this movement as Russian Jews, naturally, is one of the best source of growth for Kahanism and JTF.
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That nobody not even Chaim is willing to take on the issue of all the Russian Goyim that have been brought into Israel & given citizenship.
Chaim & other bonafide Jews are denied & all these [censored] are welcome with open arms.
What gives?
Did we fight for the cause of Soviet Jews to have Goyim come here?
Again I urge any of you if you care to see www.pogrom.org.il to see what the plague of the Russian Goyim has done to Israel.(This site was a made by a bonafide Russian Jew not a [censored])
Please Chaim & everybody I am urging you to make an issue of this.
Why is everybody afraid to touch this issue.
I am a lone voice & can not do it alone but if others raise the issue it will be heard.
Together we can make a difference & let the world know about this.
Chabad Kahanist, why not just send Chaim a private message? He'll get back to you sooner or later.
And for the record I agree with you that people who enter Israel fraudulently, and who set up whorehouse, and who sell drugs have no place in Israel. If they're neo-Nazis, I say we stick them on the front lines, and use them as human shields.
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Hey, you are the one putting words in my mouth. Why would you think that I approve of nazis who are russians, arabs or any other kind?! Specifically, I think that Russians or Arabs or Jews (yes there are Jews as well) who are caught drawing swastikas or assaulting Jews, should be killed. That's clear?
I am not approving drugs or whore houses. But I am sure, there are not only russians involved in this - ayrabs, sephardic Jews, africans - you name it. I've seen a documentary about police nabbing 65 Afrikan drug dealers in South TA. I've head that some of the most keen patronizers of the brothels are Hasidic Jews. Is this true?
I agree, South TA has become a sewer, but I think your focus solely on Russians is misplaced. Your tone is offensive to many Russian Jews who have friends or relatives who are ethnicall Russians and who live in Israel or in Russia. Therefore, you zealotry is going to hurt this movement as Russian Jews, naturally, is one of the best source of growth for Kahanism and JTF.
First of all my family is originally from Russia & the Ukriane so I know what I am talking about.
Second of all my Russian Jewish friends all agree with me & feel as I do.
Next as far as putting words in your mouth hey dude if the shoe fits
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Many Russians non-Jews come to Israel as fake "Jews" or come to "convert" so they can get the stipend money from the Israeli government (and many times go back after they get the money). Russia is an evil country that has sex slavery, drugs, you name it - and have done horrible things to the Jewish people. And yes, it is a problem in Israel. So are all the other enemies of the Jewish people who wish to destroy the Holy land of Israel.
We have talked about this issue MANY times on the forum and on videos.
Please watch your language. We have children on this forum that do not post.
Also, Chaim works day and night for the cause with little sleep and can only cover so many topics at once.
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Many Russians non-Jews come to Israel as fake "Jews" or come to "convert" so they can get the stipend money from the Israeli government (and many times go back after they get the money). Russia is an evil country that has sex slavery, drugs, you name it - and have done horrible things to the Jewish people. And yes, it is a problem in Israel. So are all the other enemies of the Jewish people who wish to destroy the Holy land of Israel.
We have talked about this issue MANY times on the forum and on videos.
Please watch your language. We have children on this forum that do not post.
If this is case I offer most humble appologies to both you & Chaim & it could be that I missed it.
I do miss things once in a while after all I am only human.
And thanks for your supporting in your post what I have been saying for years.
These Russian Goyim are parasites of the highest order let them go to America or Canada instead of here.
Yes and I know Chaim hasn't slept much in 40 years he works hard.
Also, Chaim works day and night for the cause with little sleep and can only cover so many topics at once.
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Did Rabbi Kahane ever mention this problem?
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Many Russians non-Jews come to Israel as fake "Jews" or come to "convert" so they can get the stipend money from the Israeli government (and many times go back after they get the money). Russia is an evil country that has sex slavery, drugs, you name it - and have done horrible things to the Jewish people. And yes, it is a problem in Israel. So are all the other enemies of the Jewish people who wish to destroy the Holy land of Israel.
We have talked about this issue MANY times on the forum and on videos.
Please watch your language. We have children on this forum that do not post.
Also, Chaim works day and night for the cause with little sleep and can only cover so many topics at once.
As a Ukrainian I certainly appreciate the acknowledgement of the evil of the Russian government, however, there are some good Russians out there. Also I'm sure not all of the Orthodox Christians loyal to Israel are just Arabs- there have to be some Russian Orthodox, and maybe also Ukrainian, Belarusian, even Serbian, Orthodox who are loyal to Israel. But I do agree that the ones who pretend to be Jewish are indeed a problem.
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Did Rabbi Kahane ever mention this problem?
I don't think that this problem was prevelant during his life time.
The Lubavitcher Rebbe,ZT"L as well as the Rav,ZT"L,HY"D both screamed about Mihu Yehudi Who is a Jew & warned that we would be flooded with bogus "Jews" & that there would be problems if the law of return wasn't amended to read Giyur K"Halacha Conversion according to Jewish law.
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Most of the Russians (I mean specifically) Russians gentiles in Israel are law abiding productive citizens. You have an obsession against them that's your problem. I could also create a webpage arsim.org.il and create false impression that most mizrahi Jews are thugs and criminals.
I live nearby a concentration of low income Russians (and Ethiopians tok) and generally they are ok and I never felt any threat walking through their neighborhoods for example in Kiryat Yam.
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Most of the Russians (I mean specifically) Russians gentiles in Israel are law abiding productive citizens. You have an obsession against them that's your problem. I could also create a webpage arsim.org.il and create false impression that most mizrahi Jews are thugs and criminals.
I live nearby a concentration of low income Russians (and Ethiopians tok) and generally they are ok and I never felt any threat walking through their neighborhoods for example in Kiryat Yam.
Who needs them here they are not Jews!!!!
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Russia for the Russians... Fair game is you ask me? I must say, i work for an international company so i work together with a lot of Europeans from all kind of diffrent country's and let's be honest; Good and bad people everywhere. I don't like to see people slagging off a specific group of people. We have bad Israeli's, bad Russians, Bad Ukrainians, bad Dutch people etc.... Thank God all this country's have a lot of good people aswell.
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Apparently many of them become neo-nazis- yes, neo-nazis in Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXm9jkukBo)
These scum have the nerve to threaten Jews in the Jewish state. I say deport them back to Rassiya immediately and take their money, let's just say have them "contribute" to defending the Jewish state and preventing more of their fellow scumbags from entering.
This happend years ago and this group was a small group of a few Russian idiots with Jewish blood.
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Most of the Russians (I mean specifically) Russians gentiles in Israel are law abiding productive citizens. You have an obsession against them that's your problem. I could also create a webpage arsim.org.il and create false impression that most mizrahi Jews are thugs and criminals.
I live nearby a concentration of low income Russians (and Ethiopians tok) and generally they are ok and I never felt any threat walking through their neighborhoods for example in Kiryat Yam.
They are scum & we don't need them here!!!!
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They are scum & we don't need them here!!!!
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So the Russians in general are scum? And who the [censored] are you to say that? You ever been to Russia?
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So the Russians in general are scum? And who the f*ck are you to say that? You ever been to Russia?
I am not saying that I am saying the poseurs who came here
If they are not Jews they do not belong here.
As I said no African called my relatives Zhid or made pogroms against them.
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I am not saying that I am saying the poseurs who came here
If they are not Jews they do not belong here.
As I said no African called my relatives Zhid or made pogroms against them.
They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...
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They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...
Aliyah is for Jews not Gentiles!!!!
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Why are these scum given citizenship carte blance & Chaim can't even the country ?
Something stinks!!!!!
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My mother is a Russian Jew but the ones I am speaking of are not Jews!!!
Let them go elsewhere!!!!!
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First of all my family is originally from Russia & the Ukriane so I know what I am talking about.
Second of all my Russian Jewish friends all agree with me & feel as I do.
Next as far as putting words in your mouth hey dude if the shoe fits
Those guys were arrested most were crying in court.Most were half Jews but two were full Jews who only attacked Black Sudanese and drunken bums
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Those guys were arrested most were crying in court.Most were half Jews but two were full Jews who only attacked Black Sudanese and drunken bums
Mord my friend so who needs them here?
The smemazoids are as big of a problem as the Arabs or the Africans
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They are scum because they don't belong there hmmhhmmm...
No they stab innocent people a lot. And murder, rape, and sell sex. Just like in Russia. No one's saying that all Russians are bad, but with enough Russians, a place will start to be like Russia, and Israel should be Jewish, not that.
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They are scum & we don't need them here!!!!
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see, you do have a problem. And you are not being truthful that you have a lot of Russian Jewish friends and they all agree with you. I find this implausible since you are seething hatred towards any Russians who, I am sure, your so called Jewish friends know and befriend or have part as their extended family. You are obsessed with this one issue which makes me suspect that the problem is not really Russians per se.
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see, you do have a problem. And you are not being truthful that you have a lot of Russian Jewish friends and they all agree with you. I find this implausible since you are seething hatred towards any Russians who, I am sure, your so called Jewish friends know and befriend or have part as their extended family. You are obsessed with this one issue which makes me suspect that the problem is not really Russians per se.
I am not obsessed at all see www.pogrom.org.il & you will change your tune!!!!!
Besides if they are not bonafide Jews they do not belong here.
Why are they given citizenship carte blanch & Chaim can not even enter the country?
If you sympathize with these dreck you are totally evil!!!!!
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I'm serious about what I asked before. Has Rabbi Kahane privately or otherwise, or any Kahanist publicly addressed this issue?
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I am not obsessed at all see www.pogrom.org.il & you will change your tune!!!!!
Besides if they are not bonafide Jews they do not belong here.
Why are they given citizenship carte blanch & Chaim can not even enter the country?
If you sympathize with these dreck you are totally evil!!!!!
Don't twist my words. You act like a moron who keeps repeating the same thing, hoping that it would stick.
You: If you sympathize with Russian nazis in Israel, creating pogroms in Israel, you're evil
I am: nazis in Israel, drawing swastikas, displaying nazi flags, vandalizing cemeteries (All: Russian, Arabs, Jews, Ukrainians, etc.) should be killed. You must know that some of the "nazis" in Israel are Jews or have Jewish blood and some of the most ardent supporters of Israel living there are non-Jewish Russians. You are hurting this movement by smearing all part-Jews and most Russians.
You: if you sympathize with this drek - you're evil
I: then you are too stupid and too obsessed to care about your opinion on the matter.
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Don't twist my words. You act like a moron who keeps repeating the same thing, hoping that it would stick.
You: If you sympathize with Russian nazis in Israel, creating pogroms in Israel, you're evil
I am: nazis in Israel, drawing swastikas, displaying nazi flags, vandalizing cemeteries (All: Russian, Arabs, Jews, Ukrainians, etc.) should be killed. You must know that some of the "nazis" in Israel are Jews or have Jewish blood and some of the most ardent supporters of Israel living there are non-Jewish Russians. You are hurting this movement by smearing all part-Jews and most Russians.
You: if you sympathize with this drek - you're evil
I: then you are too stupid and too obsessed to care about your opinion on the matter.
First you call him a liar and now a moron, stupid and obsessed. I have to interject here because I would have gone crazy already, and I have to stand up and say what you're doing here is wrong. How do you know what happened to him, what he lived through, or the people he knows, or anything about him at all? Also, don't go leftist and say he is promoting killing them all. They must go, like the rest of those who don't belong in Israel.
If you're Kahanist, you believe that Hashem is right to say that they must go. If he provides a logical reason why, I think what is truly counter productive is to even have a debate along those lines, but cursing your brother over it is a crime. You're spilling his blood for the movement? Better that there was no JTF than one Jew gets cursed unjustly, because our job isn't to do what Hashem can do by snapping his fingers, it's to love G-d and observe his commandments, which include saying and fighting for the truth, but a mizvah through a sin is a sin, so you're the one hurting the movement by cursing him over this.
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I agree that there is a problem but we have heard about it many times. I love ChabadKahanist and think he has a great point but I have to say it has been repeated many times and not much is accomplished. Is this baseless hatred? Not in the normal definition. There is a reason to hate the non-Jews who take advantage of the Jewish people's limited homeland and use it to desecrate the land. But I do not think all Russians with questionable Jewish background should be cursed. I know of Russian Jews whose Jewish lineage is broken and in need of some investigation but I don't let it lead to hatred.
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I agree that there is a problem but we have heard about it many times. I love ChabadKahanist and think he has a great point but I have to say it has been repeated many times and not much is accomplished. Is this baseless hatred? Not in the normal definition. There is a reason to hate the non-Jews who take advantage of the Jewish people's limited homeland and use it to desecrate the land. But I do not think all Russians with questionable Jewish background should be cursed. I know of Russian Jews whose Jewish lineage is broken and in need of some investigation but I don't let it lead to hatred.
Ok, but I get where's he's coming from, no one wants to repeat a very real problem because of the "good Russians" but him, and maybe that's an issue he fights for. A movement can't a mass movement if you force people to adopt a mindset, but it will certainly have a chance if people can fit their mindset into its goals.
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It wasn't an issue while he was alive. He was murdered I believe in 1990 so back then almost all the newcomers were Jews.
I'm serious about what I asked before. Has Rabbi Kahane privately or otherwise, or any Kahanist publicly addressed this issue?
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My opinion on this matter is that those of them who have legally obtained their citizenship in Israel should be allowed to stay. Those who cheated their way into Israel should be expelled unless they have now a valid reason to be allowed to live here such as marriage to an Israeli citizen.
I have a greater problem with the Ethiopian falash mura, by now they are probably not even falahmura but fakers, who are brought here and are a huge expense on Israeli taxpayers.
Of all the social-demographic challenges Israel is facing, these two are minor though.
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I agree with Chadad Kahanist.
Surely no one can accuse me of being against Russian Jews. I set off dozens of bombs to free them, risking my life repeatedly and ultimately losing my own freedom to save them. To this day, the excuse used to keep me out of Israel is that I spent time in prison fighting on behalf of Russian Jews.
So obviously I love our fellow Jews from the former Soviet Union. So does Chabad Kahanist. When he was in the JDL, our number one issue was liberating our brothers and sisters who were held hostage behind the Iron Curtain.
But we did not fight to bring the Russian anti-Semites who have always hated Jews and who murdered Jews for centuries into the land of Israel. This is a crime which evil Israeli governments committed because they do not want a truly Jewish state.
Having hundreds of thousands of Russian non-Jews in the Holy Land is both a demographic and a spiritual threat to Israel's existence as a Jewish state. They should be encouraged to leave.
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I agree with Chadad Kahanist.
Surely no one can accuse me of being against Russian Jews. I set off dozens of bombs to free them, risking my life repeatedly and ultimately losing my own freedom to save them. To this day, the excuse used to keep me out of Israel is that I spent time in prison fighting on behalf of Russian Jews.
So obviously I love our fellow Jews from the former Soviet Union. So does Chabad Kahanist. When he was in the JDL, our number one issue was liberating our brothers and sisters who were held hostage behind the Iron Curtain.
But we did not fight to bring the Russian anti-Semites who have always hated Jews and who murdered Jews for centuries into the land of Israel. This is a crime which evil Israeli governments committed because they do not want a truly Jewish state.
Having hundreds of thousands of Russian non-Jews in the Holy Land is both a demographic and a spiritual threat to Israel's existence as a Jewish state. They should be encouraged to leave.
I knew you would agree with me Chaim & everything you said above was exactly my point.
Manch thinks I am obsessed I am not but this must be repeated over & over again until people talk about it & it is brought to the forefront.
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I knew you would agree with me Chaim & everything you said above was exactly my point.
Manch thinks I am obsessed I am not but this must be repeated over & over again until people talk about it & it is brought to the forefront.
K lets. What are the things besides general crime that religious people need to expect and how can you prepare for what the traitor government is allowing them to do?
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K lets. What are the things besides general crime that religious people need to expect and how can you prepare for what the traitor government is allowing them to do?
They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.
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They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.
We could make a registration base with all the Rabbis that deal with Russian Jews so we can prove who is Jewish. We could also advocate kicking skinheads out of the country so people get used to the idea.
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We could make a registration base with all the Rabbis that deal with Russian Jews so we can prove who is Jewish. We could also advocate kicking skinheads out of the country so people get used to the idea.
Good idea.
Rabbi Kahane,ZT"L,HY"D once suggested the idea of a sefer yuchsin so the ones of questionable lineage can be weeded out
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Good idea.
Rabbi Kahane,ZT"L,HY"D once suggested the idea of a sefer yuchsin so the ones of questionable lineage can be weeded out
Isn't that what is starting to be done today? (meaning even outside of the Hassidic circles that already have it).
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Good idea.
Rabbi Kahane,ZT"L,HY"D once suggested the idea of a sefer yuchsin so the ones of questionable lineage can be weeded out
We can make an online base with a iphone ap too.
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They are marrying Jewish men & thus making a new generation of Israeli born Goyim,this surely represents a demographic threat.
What can be done?
Making this well known so others will get on board until there are changes in the law of return.
Other than that I am fresh out of ideas.
If anybody else has some ideas please let us know.
I have a real life example of this. And 9 yrs later he caught his wife cheating on him and stealing hundreds of thousands in cash from him.
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I think our number one problem is that right wing Jews are an oppressed minority in Israel. Right wing religious Jews are being kept silent and excluded and defamed. I want the same rights that leftists and Arabs and Russians get in Israel. I think it is more important that JTF work on that issue which is what it does. Otherwise all we would have is a little support club to vent out our opinions, not that there is anything wrong with that but we could never achieve anything meaningful by being a social club.
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I got people to talk about it so I succeeded in getting this spoken about.
I am going to continue make noise until thousands of other people do likewise.
My grandparents didn't survive the pogroms to have their oppresers take advantage of Jews in their own land.
Get a clue Manch & respect somebody who has around longer than you have & has seen things you have yet to see or may never see.
Experience speaks for itself.
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I got people to talk about it so I succeeded in getting this spoken about.
I am going to continue make noise until thousands of other people do likewise.
My grandparents didn't survive the pogroms to have their oppresers take advantage of Jews in their own land.
Get a clue Manch & respect somebody who has around longer than you have & has seen things you have yet to see or may never see.
Experience speaks for itself.
You are the one who is clueless. You used an inappropriate tone against me and I deliberately ignored that until I responded in kind. Discussing these matters with you is as productive as discussing Israel submarines upgrades with LKZ - completely nuts. You're obsessed and probably was turned down by a Russian woman, which would explain your problem.
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Show me where Chaim has neglected this issue. He is against Russian Gentiles coming to Israel as much as you are.
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Ok guys. Quit with the personal attacks
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You are the one who is clueless. You used an inappropriate tone against me and I deliberately ignored that until I responded in kind. Discussing these matters with you is as productive as discussing Israel submarines upgrades with LKZ - completely nuts. You're obsessed and probably was turned down by a Russian woman, which would explain your problem.
I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one
"Name calling is the last refuge of a non-thinker" (Rabbi Meir Kahane,ZT"L.HY"D,ZY"A)
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Show me where Chaim has neglected this issue. He is against Russian Gentiles coming to Israel as much as you are.
He hasn't & Shlomo pointed it out to me.
I must have over looked it but indeed he did speak up on the issue.
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I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one
"Name calling is the last refuge of a non-thinker" (Rabbi Meir Kahane,ZT"L.HY"D,ZY"A)
I believe the word he used was "defamation". : )
Anyways, I don't get it. He brings up his website with a moving intro, and everyone complains that he is obsessed with Russian Goyim. If that's the case, then you're all obsessed with black guys and Jewish celebrities.
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I believe the word he used was "defamation". : )
Anyways, I don't get it. He brings up his website with a moving intro, and everyone complains that he is obsessed with Russian Goyim. If that's the case, then you're all obsessed with black guys and Jewish celebrities.
Touche`
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That nobody not even Chaim is willing to take on the issue of all the Russian Goyim that have been brought into Israel & given citizenship.
Chaim & other bonafide Jews are denied & all these [censored] are welcome with open arms.
What gives?
Did we fight for the cause of Soviet Jews to have Goyim come here?
Again I urge any of you if you care to see www.pogrom.org.il to see what the plague of the Russian Goyim has done to Israel.(This site was a made by a bonafide Russian Jew not a [censored])
Please Chaim & everybody I am urging you to make an issue of this.
Why is everybody afraid to touch this issue.
I am a lone voice & can not do it alone but if others raise the issue it will be heard.
Together we can make a difference & let the world know about this.
Maybe you can bring this topic up on the next Ask JTF show.
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I never dated Goy women in my life & you started with me.
Even Chaim Chaim said I was right.
FYI,I am happily married which you probably aren't which only proves you are frustrated & why you attack both LKZ & me constantly.
Everybody else said you were wrong so drop it & that you attacked with first & without cause.
By not dropping it you are only proving you are the obessed one
"Name calling is the last refuge of a non-thinker" (Rabbi Meir Kahane,ZT"L.HY"D,ZY"A)
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks
No need to be snide. What's your problem with him talking about this issue, do you want the Russian goyim to stay? What should be done about the problems related to Russian non-Jews sneaking into and causing crime in Israel?
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No need to be snide. What's your problem with him talking about this issue, do you want the Russian goyim to stay? What should be done about the problems related to Russian non-Jews sneaking into and causing crime in Israel?
I am begining to think Manch is a troll & not a real Kahanist at all.
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Manch is not a troll, but I don't know what is wrong with CK having a burning issue on his heart. These illegals have no right to be in Israel--no more than the African wetbacks do.
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I am begining to think Manch is a troll & not a real Kahanist at all.
I don't know anything about either of you. Maybe Manch just brought a Russian Jewish friend here and he though it was racist, so he's doing it to prove that it's not. I don't know either of your stories, but I'm interested in learning about the issue, and I'm trying to make the silly fight go away for whatever reason it's there.
My only other theory is that Manch is really a Russian detente agent that is here doing PR for Russia, but that's a little overboard, so I just want to hear why Manch doesn't believe this is such a big problem, because it might reveal something about the problem.
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I don't know anything about either of you. Maybe Manch just brought a Russian Jewish friend here and he though it was racist, so he's doing it to prove that it's not. I don't know either of your stories, but I'm interested in learning about the issue, and I'm trying to make the silly fight go away for whatever reason it's there.
My only other theory is that Manch is really a Russian detente agent that is here doing PR for Russia, but that's a little overboard, so I just want to hear why Manch doesn't believe this is such a big problem, because it might reveal something about the problem.
No, he seemed to be quite pro-Ukrainian on another thread. As a Ukrainian and a Jew myself, I have no problem with ordinary, everyday Russians and I don't think he does either, it's just that I do believe Israel should be protected as a Jewish state.
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Also due to intermarriage, many Ashkenazi Jews already in Israel still carry some Slavic and Germanic DNA, although usually not to as large an extent as I do (50%, because of my non-Jewish father). But, I have no doubt there are still vibrant Old Yishuv in Israel, it's just that unfortunately most of them live in close proximity to the invading Arabs.
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Also due to intermarriage, many Ashkenazi Jews already in Israel still carry some Slavic and Germanic DNA, although usually not to as large an extent as I do (50%, because of my non-Jewish father). But, I have no doubt there are still vibrant Old Yishuv in Israel, it's just that unfortunately most of them live in close proximity to the invading Arabs.
Flesh is nothing, the soul is who you are. DNA changes with the environment, anyways.