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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 25, 2014, 09:06:46 PM
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I wish that shmuck (whatever his name is) had interviewed you instead. He'd have had a rude awakening.
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That guy has idea what Judaism teaches. What a useless shmuck
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Yes....Israel is already a state....the discussion shouldn't even take place! Hamas and the PLO will Never honor their word, and besides that Dividing that land is a major affront to God! The Interviewer is a pro-Palestinian supporter!
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Mort Klein is a eunoch!
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Yes....Israel is already a state....the discussion shouldn't even take place! Hamas and the PLO will Never honor their word, and besides that Dividing that land is a major affront to God! The Interviewer is a pro-Palestinian supporter!
No he isn't. The interviewer is Rabbi Mark S. Golub who supports Israel. He has interviewed Rabbi Kahane and has spoken fondly of him.
He was a rabbi of a Reform temple though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivoXOxAgAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWS1PR4zUMY
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What a loser. If Mort Klein is all we've got, then we don't need enemies.
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No he isn't. The interviewer is Rabbi Mark S. Golub who supports Israel. He has interviewed Rabbi Kahane and has spoken fondly of him.
He was a rabbi of a Reform temple though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivoXOxAgAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWS1PR4zUMY
Muman, did you even listen to the interview?? If you did, you need to pay better attention to the interview, because Golub was obviously hostile to Mort klein and pushing for a Palestinian State.
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Of course. I have watched it three times already.
I saw him trying to get Mort Klein to speak up about his position rather than to let it pass. I didn't pick up that he supported a palestinian state. He wanted to get Mort to commit to either the peace-plan or the one state solution. I don't know what exactly Rabbi Golub believes, but he has been open to Kahanes opinion.
I suggest everyone else watch it again... The conditions Rabbi Golub postulates that the Fatach would 'concede' to are ridiculous and no sensible person believes that Abbas would agree to such conditions... Listen to about 1:40- where he lays out the conditions of accepting a 'palestine' state and, to me, it seems like a question which is rhetorical (if they agreed to something they would never agree to)...
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Of course. I have watched it three times already.
I saw him trying to get Mort Klein to speak up about his position rather than to let it pass. I didn't pick up that he supported a palestinian state. He wanted to get Mort to commit to either the peace-plan or the one state solution. I don't know what exactly Rabbi Golub believes, but he has been open to Kahanes opinion.
Oh please!
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Oh Please what? You feel that way, I don't... I listen to it again and again and I hear a condition which is impossible, so Mort should have said it is not acceptable to ZOA... That he supports Jewish sovereignty in all of the land of Israel.
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I see that Rabbi Golub does pose one question which seems to be hostile to Mort, but I think he just wanted an honest answer.
Anyway, I like the show which he does, and he was very kind to Rabbi Kahane on his show.
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Muman, did you even listen to the interview?? If you did, you need to pay better attention to the interview, because Golub was obviously hostile to Mort klein and pushing for a Palestinian State.
Not true imo. He was getting hostile because klein wouldn't answer his questions. Therewas no crime in what he asked him. Clarify your position, the interviewer won't bite ur head off for it.
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Oh Please what? You feel that way, I don't... I listen to it again and again and I hear a condition which is impossible, so Mort should have said it is not acceptable to ZOA... That he supports Jewish sovereignty in all of the land of Israel.
I clearly got the impression that the interviewer would be very comfortable should a two state solution come to pass... Klein clearly refused to answer and tried his best to hedge his bets only making himself look like a fool....Interviews like this are useless and only show that the present situation will go on for some time to come.
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Of course. I have watched it three times already.
I saw him trying to get Mort Klein to speak up about his position rather than to let it pass. I didn't pick up that he supported a palestinian state. He wanted to get Mort to commit to either the peace-plan or the one state solution. I don't know what exactly Rabbi Golub believes, but he has been open to Kahanes opinion.
I suggest everyone else watch it again... The conditions Rabbi Golub postulates that the Fatach would 'concede' to are ridiculous and no sensible person believes that Abbas would agree to such conditions... Listen to about 1:40- where he lays out the conditions of accepting a 'palestine' state and, to me, it seems like a question which is rhetorical (if they agreed to something they would never agree to)...
When watching the video, the impression I got is Mark Golub wanted to know Mort Klein's position on whether he would ever accept a Fakestine state in Judea and Samaria. W/o knowing about Mark Golub's background, I got the impression that he wasn't indicating his preference. He just wanted to know Mort Klein's position on the critical issue. As a viewer, I thought Golub did a good job with the interview.
In another video interview with AFSI Chairman Mark Langfan that's also on the Shalom TV channel on Zootube, he asked Langfan the same question in the latter part of the interview. Langfan was decisive with his answer, which is he won't support a Fakestine state in Judea and Samaria, period. That interview is worth listening to if you and the others have the opportunity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMTzeD8QogQ
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Attorney Steve Goldberg, a supporter of our beloved Rabbi Meir Kahane, uses our video on Mort Klein and the ZOA on his web site:
http://savethezoa.com/2014/08/mort-klein-cant-take-position
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Attorney Steve Goldberg, a supporter of our beloved Rabbi Meir Kahane, uses our video on Mort Klein and the ZOA on his web site:
http://savethezoa.com/2014/08/mort-klein-cant-take-position
Chaim, while Steve Goldberg has said some very good things about the late and great Rabbi Kahane, he also said the following that's disturbing to say the least:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11997#.VAf-5psg-M-
Kahane was a flawed human being and some of his policy prescriptions were profoundly misguided. For example, his views on sexual relations between Jews and non-Jews were theocratic, priggish and hypocritical.
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Chaim, the following article directly relates to what I mentioned to you last month. The next time I see you, I plan on bringing the part of the article that's part of premium content of this website:
http://los-angeles-business-journal.vlex.com/vid/said-prominent-rocked-fly-sours-56469025
Los Angeles Business Journal
November 26, 2001
She said, he said, they said: prominent law firm rocked as charges fly after relationship between partners sours.
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Greenberg Traurig attorney's Carol Perrin and Steve Goldberg
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CAROL Perrin says it all began one February evening over dinner with Steve Goldberg.
Perrin, at the time managing partner in the recently opened L.A. office of Greenberg Traurig LP, had been working with him for less than two months and was becoming uncomfortable over the attention he had been giving her.
Theirs had been an unusual relationship for some time: He was her divorce attorney, and had since become a partner at Greenberg. His house in the gated community of Bel Air Crest was across the street from hers. His two children were friends with her children.
Perrin suspected that Goldberg was interested in a romantic relationship, so she asked him one night to meet her at the now-defunct Italian hideaway Santo Pietro to clear the air. She wanted to tell him that she was dating again and asked him to leave her alone. "Our relationship was creeping me out," she recalls.
She says he didn't take it well.
"He just turned to me and in a normal tone said, 'You have no idea how evil I am and you have no idea how evil I can be,'" she remembers. "He said, 'I've never done anything evil to you, and I don't know that I can control myself."'
The next morning, Perrin claims, she found Goldberg in her office with several of the firm's partners. He had called an emergency meeting to question her management style.
"He said, 'Well, everybody has complaints, and we think it may get out of hand, and we want to talk to you about it,"' Perrin says.
What followed would rock the L.A. office of Miami-based Greenberg Traurig, one of the nation's fastest growing law firms that among other things is noted for representing then-candidate George W. Bush in the litigation following last year's presidential election.
There were accusations of billing fraud against Perrin, a months-long investigation conducted by Greenberg Chairman Larry Hoffman, unexpected hirings and promotions, Goldberg's ultimate resignation, and, as could be expected in a story involving lawyers, lots of litigation.
To this day, two questions linger:
Did Goldberg hold a personal grudge against Perrin?
Was Perrin as bad a manager as Goldberg claims?
Both tell very different stories. Goldberg claims that he and Perrin had a one-month "fling" before they formed Greenberg's L.A. office, and that it ended by mutual consent. He says he never even had dinner with Perrin that February evening, nor arranged an emergency meeting the next day. And he continues to believe the firm covered up months of over-billing in the thousands of dollars -- at least $20,000 a month.
Perrin flatly denies ever having a sexual relationship with Goldberg and defends her billing practices and management style, although in retrospect she recognizes why things got out of hand. "I didn't really get it," she concedes in a lengthy interview with the Business Journal, the first time she has spoken publicly about the matter. "I didn't take time to meet with the people I was working with and say, 'Hi, how are you, how's your daughter?"'
'Like caged animals'
Law firms are often not the best-managed businesses. Because they are formed as partnerships, where organizational lines of authority and profit participation are sometimes murky, infighting and recrimination are not unusual. Inflated egos don't help.
"The training lawyers receive and the skills they can bring to their legal practice ...are at odds with the reasoning and human interaction it takes to run a good firm," says Samuel Culbert, professor of management at UCLA's Anderson School and author of the new book, "Don't Kill the Bosses."
"A lot of attorneys work so intensively on cases -- sitting in an office, pouring through legal briefs and case law," he continues. "They're like caged animals and when they come out for air, they're often seen in the office as socially inappropriate."
But what happened at the L.A. office of Greenberg Traurig is extreme, even by law firm standards. It's also a lesson in what could happen when a fast-growing...
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Steve Goldberg was representing Shelley Rubin in 2006, which was after the Gaza retreat that Shelley Rubin's JDL supported:
http://www.legalmetric.com/cases/copyright/cacd/cacd_206cv00372.html
Substitution of Attorney filed. Substituting attorney Steven M Goldberg for Shelley Rubin in place and stead of attorney Eric Bryan Fenster by Judge Dale S. Fischer.(yc, ) (Entered: 02/10/2006)
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I'm curious, is perrin Jewish?
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I'm curious, is perrin Jewish?
The same question came to mind for me when reading Steve Goldberg's comment about Rabbi Kahane that I posted above.
While I don't know if Carol Perrin is Jewish, the Rabbi that conducted the funeral services of the late and great Baruch Goldstein was Rabbi Yaacov Perrin. This sounds like a terrific Rabbi! :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".
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The same question came to mind for me when reading Steve Goldberg's comment about Rabbi Kahane that I posted above.
Yup, exactly my thinking.
While I don't know if Carol Perrin is Jewish, the Rabbi that conducted the funeral services of the late and great Baruch Goldstein was Rabbi Yaacov Perrin. This sounds like a terrific Rabbi! :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
At Goldstein's funeral, Rabbi Yaacov Perrin claimed that even one million Arabs are "not worth a Jewish fingernail".
Interesting.
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About the interviewer- he is mixed. I saw many of his video's and such I would say that in theory he is or definitely was for a "2 state solution" BUT I think that over time he has been going more to the right and he doesn't see a "peace partner" now. + Recently he has been doing a number of interviews and tours and other such programs on his "Shalom T.V." network and over all he does have a platform for many different perspectives to voice their opinions and thoughts.