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Title: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 08, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3a_xjZU59Y
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: NoMosqueHere on September 08, 2014, 01:19:44 PM
Will an independent Scotland be more or less friendly with Israel than Britain/UK?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Israel Chai on September 08, 2014, 01:25:24 PM
Will an independent Scotland be more or less friendly with Israel than Britain/UK?

Not that I know of. That's not the point, the point is the constant voice of the UK against the survival of 6 million Jews in Israel will be weaker.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 08, 2014, 02:18:10 PM
The Brits did terrible things to the Jews. Fact. Fact is is that the majority of the Scots will vote NO! as a majority of the Scots is loyal to the Queen. Northern Ireland will always remain British aswell. Yes indeed, they try all kind of things to rip apart the Union but it never going to happen. The majority of the people in Northern Ireland are British and they never going to let it happen.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Yehudayaakov on September 08, 2014, 03:41:22 PM
Israel must take advantage of the situation and say she supports the Scots but Israel fears so much England she will never do it! If she does it that would be cool! And eventually a new ally or more.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on September 08, 2014, 05:49:01 PM
בס''ד

Great work!

This video clearly explains why we as Jews and righteous Gentiles support Scottish independence.

Now I need to do a second video that directly addresses the Scottish people and explains to them why they should vote "Yes" on September 18.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: muman613 on September 08, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
Where do they stand on Israel?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on September 08, 2014, 06:36:00 PM
Where do they stand on Israel?

בס''ד

The Scots are anti-Israel and anti-Semitic just like the British. But the British are capable of doing far more harm. Removing Scotland from British control would be good for the Jews and Israel.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: muman613 on September 08, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
בס''ד

The Scots are anti-Israel and anti-Semitic just like the British. But the British are capable of doing far more harm. Removing Scotland from British control would be good for the Jews and Israel.

Thank you.... I hope that this will reduce the voice of the british..
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Israel Chai on September 08, 2014, 07:44:10 PM
בס''ד

The Scots are anti-Israel and anti-Semitic just like the British. But the British are capable of doing far more harm. Removing Scotland from British control would be good for the Jews and Israel.

Figured that. Maybe saying that Jews want them to seperate will be counter-productive, if it has any effect at all...
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Yerusha on September 08, 2014, 09:15:32 PM
בס''ד

 Removing Scotland from British control would be good for the Jews and Israel.

Rather than "British control", shouldn't it read "English control"?

"British" =  a dweller on the whole of Britain (ie England + Wales + Scotland)

"English" = a dweller on just the hopefully soon to be truncated lower 60% of Britain aka "England", with Wales soon to follow in independence, to reduce it even further to 50%!
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 09, 2014, 12:46:34 AM
Will Scotland be part of the British Commonwealth like Canada or leave it completely like the Republic of Ireland?

Scotland can claim that England stole their royal line as well. The countries merged because the King of Scotland inherited the British Throne when Queen Elizabeth I died. Will Queen Elizabeth II become Queen Elizabeth of Scotland in addition to her other roles as Queen of England, Queen of Canada, Queen of Australia, etc...?


Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Israel Chai on September 09, 2014, 01:32:33 AM
Canada doesn't have anything to do with England. We keep the queen on the money and in the law books so we don't have to pay to replace it all.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on September 09, 2014, 02:02:34 AM
youtube: "unable to like at this time" or something like that. Oh well.

Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Israel Chai on September 09, 2014, 03:29:33 AM
youtube: "unable to like at this time" or something like that. Oh well.

works for me
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Zelhar on September 09, 2014, 05:42:03 AM
While I understand your reasoning why England should lose Scotland I fear that Independent Scotland is going to be another Norway. I think Noway is currently more damaging to Israel then any other European country.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 05:48:57 AM
While I understand your reasoning why England should lose Scotland I fear that Independent Scotland is going to be another Norway. I think Noway is currently more damaging to Israel then any other European country.

And why would Scotland be like another Norway after breaking with the UK (what not going to happen ofcourse).
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 09, 2014, 06:53:44 AM
Some sick self hating Jew agreeing commenting on the video with some loyalist Nazis.
They are denying that the Brits bombed the ship full of Jews & instead blaming the Jewish freedom fighters Haganah of planting the bomb.
You can't make this stuff up.
 :::D
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on September 09, 2014, 07:03:07 AM
works for me

....because I was liking too many jtf videos. It only allows a few at a given amount of time.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on September 09, 2014, 07:03:55 AM
Some sick self hating Jew agreeing commenting on the video with some loyalist Nazis.
They are denying that the Brits bombed the ship full of Jews & instead blaming the Jewish freedom fighters Haganah of planting the bomb.
You can't make this stuff up.
 :::D

the comments are great! even negative publicity is still publicity.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 07:20:19 AM
We already have 50,000 YES! votes from the Irish living in Scotland who escaped the famine in 1845. Just like the muslims come and stay in our society's, the Irish done the same to Scotland and the UK and vote against the UK. Just like the muslims vote for the leftwing pro-benefit party's allover Europe. Disrespecting, claiming, complaining but live on the back of the UK and the Brits. After Scotland voted NO! we should send the Irish back where they came from. Back to Ireland.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 09, 2014, 07:28:02 AM
We already have 50,000 YES! votes from the Irish living in Scotland who escaped the famine in 1845. Just like the muslims come and stay in our society's, the Irish done the same to Scotland and the UK and vote against the UK. Just like the muslims vote for the leftwing pro-benefit party's allover Europe. Disrespecting, claiming, complaining but live on the back of the UK and the Brits. After Scotland voted NO! we should send the Irish back where they came from. Back to Ireland.
Irish are here to stay  ;D
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 09, 2014, 07:33:49 AM
And what do you mean by "we"?
You're just some Dutch nobody that has no claim to either nation.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 07:41:24 AM
And what do you mean by "we"?
You're just some Dutch nobody that has no claim to either nation.

We? The righteous citizens of the UK ofcourse...
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 07:42:57 AM
Irish are here to stay  ;D

You support immigration? You are proud that Irish living in the UK?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 09, 2014, 07:54:10 AM
You support immigration? You are proud that Irish living in the UK?
Scotland won't be part of UK for much longer  :::D
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 08:35:53 AM
Scotland won't be part of UK for much longer  :::D

Dream on Irish. Stop making fun out of yourself. :laugh:
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Rational Jew on September 09, 2014, 12:33:08 PM
Can we stop these childish attacks on each other?

Super Mentalita, you're not even British. Why are you defending Britain so loyally?

As for Irish Zionist, can you please stop trying to whitewash Irish anti-Semitism? None of the sides of a coin are clear. We need to clean both sides, or leave it as it is. Which action is up for you to choose.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Irish Zionist on September 09, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Can we stop these childish attacks on each other?

Super Mentalita, you're not even British. Why are you defending Britain so loyally?

As for Irish Zionist, can you please stop trying to whitewash Irish anti-Semitism? None of the sides of a coin are clear. We need to clean both sides, or leave it as it is. Which action is up for you to choose.
Proof? There is none.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: NoMosqueHere on September 09, 2014, 12:51:02 PM
I tend to agree with the official JTF position on Scottish independence but I worry that Germany will be strengthened if the UK dissolves. 
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 09, 2014, 01:18:47 PM
Can we stop these childish attacks on each other?

Super Mentalita, you're not even British. Why are you defending Britain so loyally?

As for Irish Zionist, can you please stop trying to whitewash Irish anti-Semitism? None of the sides of a coin are clear. We need to clean both sides, or leave it as it is. Which action is up for you to choose.

I always travelled to Britain, i have lots of British friends and i live in the UK and i experienced only good things with the English/British patriots/Loyalists.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Israel Chai on September 09, 2014, 01:23:08 PM
I tend to agree with the official JTF position on Scottish independence but I worry that Germany will be strengthened if the UK dissolves.

I only see a risk of that if England or Scotland or Ireland join the German-controlled EU, G-d forbid.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on September 09, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
Hi folks. What about pIslam? They're taking over all of UK. .... all of Europe....all of the world - their ultimate goal.
But anyway, I don't think the british asked scotland or ireland if they wanted to be controlled by them. I don't care either way - as long as they send the muslims to see allah.

Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: ChabadKahanist on September 09, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
I only see a risk of that if England or Scotland or Ireland join the German-controlled EU, G-d forbid.
They already are.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: christians4jews on September 09, 2014, 04:56:28 PM
I have to disagree with chaim on this one.

I am English and i would love to see the scots go. They just vote Labour in which contributes england to being this left wing place.

England would become slightly more right wing(relatively) if Scotland left.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: TruthSpreader on September 10, 2014, 10:10:15 AM
I support Scottish independence!
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 10, 2014, 10:49:11 AM
I support Scottish independence!

Why?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Yehudayaakov on September 10, 2014, 01:24:39 PM
Why?

  Australia, the biggest Israel ally and the Jews in the world.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 11, 2014, 06:10:22 AM
  Australia, the biggest Israel ally and the Jews in the world.

What has that to do with Scotland?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: zachor_ve_kavod on September 11, 2014, 02:24:37 PM
Here is the response I wrote under this same video on Youtube:

This is a powerful video, and I agree with every word. Aside from losing their empire, Britain, is in a dire state today. They are being overrun by Arab Muslim Nazis. I read an article yesterday, titled: "UK: 1,400 non-Muslim Children Exploited by Muslim Rape Gangs, Authorities Did Nothing for 'Fear of Being Thought as Racist'" You can bet that when a society is so sick that it won't take on the problem of Muslim immigrants gang raping British children to the tune of 1400, just because they are afraid of being called 'racist', that society doesn't have much of a moral reason for existing.

Do you actually get how sick this is? British authorities would actually prefer to allow more than 1,400 of their own children to be RAPED, rather than take on the problem and risk being called Islamophobic. Any society that is morally retarded to that extent, will not last for long. And this is going on all over Europe. They're letting these people in by the thousands, and these people are turning Europe into a hell-hole, not unlike what ever hell-hole these bastards left behind when they immigrated.

By the way, here is the link to the article I cited:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/uk-1400-non-muslim-children-exploited-by-muslim-rape-gangs-authorities-did-nothing-for-fear-of-being-thought-as-racist d
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Yehudayaakov on September 11, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
What has that to do with Scotland?

There are lot of scots there! Australia is a beautiful country
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: NoMosqueHere on September 11, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Is it not worth a mention that 388,000 Brits (UK), including 62,000 civilians, bravely died fighting Germany in World War II?
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Debbie Shafer on September 12, 2014, 08:49:23 AM
Very Powerful Video....That would be a positive step for Scotland to get their Independence!  The Days are coming when the Lord will Smite Israel's enemies...we can see it on the Horizon....the scriptures cry out and the Words of the Lord.  I will curse those who curse thee.   Israel has strayed from their Lord from time to time, but they go back and are renewed, just like they will be renewed in the Last Days!
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: AngryAnt on September 12, 2014, 08:52:25 AM
Whilst I have no love for the Brits and their history of brutal imperialism which raped half of the world and their centuries of Jew hatred, does the world really need another extreme left wing festering sore of a nation like Scotland? Jew hating left wing Ireland is already one of the most anti-Israel nations on the planet outside of the muslim world, why do Jews need another ireland, so they too vote at the UN and various other institutions against Israel?

The muslims will destroy the Brits by themselves more than scotland becoming independent will.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Super Mentalita on September 14, 2014, 07:34:37 AM
Is it not worth a mention that 388,000 Brits (UK), including 62,000 civilians, bravely died fighting Germany in World War II?
Sure it is. Just a shaim some people just mention bad sides and not the good sides. I don't trust that kind of people.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: TruthSpreader on September 14, 2014, 08:42:08 AM
Why?

Because the Scots have a long history of hating the British.

Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Southern Noachide on September 14, 2014, 10:12:41 AM
Because the Scots have a long history of hating the British.

Don't you mean the English?

When Scotland and Wales are independent, will the English still be "the British?"

There is no "British language."  The Welsh and Scots are as British as the English are.  And there is no such thing as an "English Empire."

Furthermore, the Anglic Protestant lowland Scots are traditionally enthusiastic Unionists and were even more opposed to the Jacobite rebellions (which weren't wars for Scottish independence, btw) than the English were.

Sorry.  This confusion of Britain and England is a pet peeve of mine.  Maybe when Scotland is independent it will change its name back to the Kingdom of England and we'll have heard the last of "Great Britain" as anything other than an island.
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on September 16, 2014, 07:09:39 AM

We'll give you more worthless  british garbage and non-working services if you stay:

in.reuters.com/article/2014/09/16/scotland-independence-idINKBN0HB0NP20140916
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Yerusha on September 21, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
The majority of Scottish idiots voted to stay with Blighty.

The massacre of the Clans at Culloden was justified!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0efUZQANaE
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: ChabadKahanist on September 22, 2014, 12:01:29 AM
Hoot mon!!!
Title: Re: Scottish Independence: A Jewish Response
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on September 29, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
I have to disagree with chaim on this one.

I am English and i would love to see the scots go. They just vote Labour in which contributes england to being this left wing place.

England would become slightly more right wing(relatively) if Scotland left.


Then England should declare independence from the UK. The UK was formed because the King of Scotland inherited the English Throne. You can say Scotland hijacked England. The Scottish kings made London their capital. The Left Wing Scottish politicians control the British Parliament. The Scottish would keep the Royal Family if they declared independence just like Canada and wouldn't be a Republic anyway. So you can send the Royal Family to Scotland. Then England can be a Righteous Gentile Republic like under Cromwell. Cromwell was a Puritan like the founders of New England.