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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: nessuno on December 03, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/03/no-indictment-for-nypd-cop-in-chokehold-death-unarmed-man-source-says/
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There should have objectively been one but the shwartzes have been acting so animalistically lately that this is white payback. Baruch HaShem- gott sei dank
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There should have objectively been one but the shwartzes have been acting so animalistically lately that this is white payback. Baruch HaShem- gott sei dank
I don't know about that. I would hope it is not 'white payback'. Just a decision based on the evidence.
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That is a miscarriage of justice. There should be indictment and everybody who cares for justice should speak about it.
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There should have objectively been one but the shwartzes have been acting so animalistically lately that this is white payback. Baruch HaShem- gott sei dank
hmm.
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That is a miscarriage of justice. There should be indictment and everybody who cares for justice should speak about it.
He had a heart attack, he was not strangled....
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That is a miscarriage of justice. There should be indictment and everybody who cares for justice should speak about it.
Let me put aside my bias and hatred for a moment and call it straight down the middle. I agree with you. Pantaleo was out of line and that man was unjustifiably murdered. New York City is a totally different animal than Ferguson though so I really don't expect any crazy rioting. Just insignificant protests by imbeciles, vapid speeches by "civil rights" activists, more inane conversations from the talking heads of CNN and MSNBC, and in about two months, conservatively speaking, some other incident will dominate the news.
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He had a heart attack, he was not strangled....
Oh my G-d! The heart attack was a byproduct of the choke hold. He died in police custody.
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Oh my G-d! The heart attack was a byproduct of the choke hold. He died in police custody.
He died from stress. He should not have fought back. He was in the wrong of the law...
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I have not seen the video, but the Autopsy shows heart attack... No damage to windpipe....
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This is a very different case from Furguson. Michael Brown was a thug and deserved exactly what he got. The case of Eric Garner is different. The cop should have faced trial. Watch the video...there was no struggle or resisting arrest. Just being honest.
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He was selling loose cigarettes. I always say that cigarettes will kill you.
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He was selling loose cigarettes. I always say that cigarettes will kill you.
really....
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That is a miscarriage of justice. There should be indictment and everybody who cares for justice should speak about it.
Yes.
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He died from stress. He should not have fought back. He was in the wrong of the law...
He fought back? Am I in the twilight zone right now? He sold cigarettes illegally. That's the only aspect of the law that he broke.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4
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Admittedly, the judgement made no sense to me like the one in furgason made tons of sense to me.
What bothers me the most about this is how much publicity over this case is giving because of race. A white cop versus a black victim. How about getting rid of race and pointing out bully cops irregardless of color. And congratulating the good cops who carry out justice properly irregardless of color.
It all smells bad. The media, that is. It's also unbelievable how the Obama government will be investing more tax dollars towards black justice. Why this preference to black victims?
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The NYPD is the most powerful mafia in the country.. I was all 1000% supportive of Officer Darren Wilson. Sadly, it is always crooked liberal police departments who get a free pass to invoke any unconstitutional and draconian measures they please. However, a more respectable, honorable police department gets attacked and has its integrity cut down when an officer legitimately defend his community against a thug.
In fact, I fully support Eric Garner and his family against the criminal NYPD thug who decided to take the law into his own hands.
The NYPD has shot more innocent bystanders and committed almost as many crimes as the criminals in the city.
Also, remember that the NYPD strictly enforces draconian unconstitutional laws like putting American citizens in prison for trying to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights of the US Constitution . In NYC , you will be arrested and charged with a felony for possessing a firearm, even if you are legally able to do so. The NYPD has put more law -abiding citizens in jail and turned them into felons than it has protected law abiding citizens from criminals.
New York, sadly, is becoming a dangerous police state. The color of Eric Garner's skin was totally irrelevant to what happened to him. He was murdered by that cop for refusing to be bullied and refusing to be detained for a crime he did not commit. The cop also illegally performed a choke hold on him, which was banned to be used by NYPD, yet performed it anyway.
I really would advocate most Jews leave New York City, because it is only a matter of time before the governing machine completely bans all freedoms in the city.
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The NYPD is the most powerful mafia in the country.. I was all 1000% supportive of Officer Darren Wilson. Sadly, it is always crooked liberal police departments who get a free pass to invoke any unconstitutional and draconian measures they please. However, a more respectable, honorable police department gets attacked and has its integrity cut down when an officer legitimately defend his community against a thug.
In fact, I fully support Eric Garner and his family against the criminal NYPD thug who decided to take the law into his own hands.
The NYPD has shot more innocent bystanders and committed almost as many crimes as the criminals in the city.
Well said.
Same in Israel apart there is no " a more respectable, honorable police department" here, everywhere the same it'is not limited to one city like in America but spread all over Israel, you have Israeli officers saying to arab terrorists to apply for becoming officer when they are freed they will get hired at once.
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I don't think I can agree with the fact that the NYPD is the biggest mafia in the world. I am much happier having them around keeping many of the savages (black and white) out of the way than not having them at all.
Sure. I get pissed off over a parking ticket that states I'm 6 feet away from a fire hydrant when I'm more than 6 ft away..or a ticket 2 minutes after the ticker expires..but that's the extent of it.
Nevertheless, I would rather have a strong NYPD and a bunch of citizens afraid to piss them off than an ineffective one where criminals and anarchists can get their way.
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I don't think I can agree with the fact that the NYPD is the biggest mafia in the world. I am much happier having them around keeping many of the savages (black and white) out of the way than not having them at all.
Sure. I get pissed off over a parking ticket that states I'm 6 feet away from a fire hydrant when I'm more than 6 ft away..or a ticket 2 minutes after the ticker expires..but that's the extent of it.
Nevertheless, I would rather have a strong NYPD and a bunch of citizens afraid to piss them off than an ineffective one where criminals and anarchists can get their way.
Dan, there was very little crime in Nazi Germany . The problem with a strong police force and a weakened citizenry (peasantry) stripped of its legal freedoms is that once the police gets too powerful it suddenly becomes a greater enemy than the savages you are talking about. As a matter of fact, the Nazi police probably murdered more Jewish people in 4 years than all the criminals in this country have murdered combined.
I'm not saying I am against a well-trained, well-paid and efficient police force, but a police force is a "civilian" defense unit and they should have no more powers to protect the community then citizens themselves have. It is totally unconstitutional, otherwise. As it stands, New Yorkers are stripped of their constituional freedoms and the NYPD has been more than efficient in enforcing laws that are in fact, illegal to enforce, themselves. What I would like to ask is if our Constitution has any meaning anymore or if it is more or less a piece of decor for the fancy museums in DC?
The NYPD has the worst track record in the country, as well, for inadequate training and for civilian casualties. Just recently another innocent bystander was shot by a police officer
What we need is STRONG CITIZENS not a strong police force to protect our people.
The fact that my tax dollars paid for that police officer to jump and strangle a guy who was accused of selling untaxed cigarettes makes my blood boil. In fact, the guy Eric Garner wasn't even selling cigarettes on that day and he was there to break up a fight. He was being a good Samaritan and the police officers were just there to intimidate him because he was a person known to do this act. His only real crime was resisting arrest for a crime he didn't commit. He should have gotten a pat on the back for breaking up the fight, not been strangled and induced a heart attack.
This, IMO, is a classic representation of an abuse of authority and power and was not uncommon in other societies that have become police states. Police states may have lower crime , but people will eventually live under fear of the authority.
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Well said.
Same in Israel apart there is no " a more respectable, honorable police department" here, everywhere the same it'is not limited to one city like in America but spread all over Israel, you have Israeli officers saying to arab terrorists to apply for becoming officer when they are freed they will get hired at once.
Israeli citizens are being massacred in their own country, yet the government and police thugs in Israel insist Jewish citizens cannot be trusted with weapons. If a Jewish guy shoots an Arab he will be skinned alive by the Israeli government. However, an Arab does it, it is because he is oppressed and fighting for his freedom. It sounds similar to way it is with blacks in the USA, who can rob, rape, loot and murder and then be given a pardon because they are fighting against the evils of slavery.
Anyhow, I am a guy who seeks out justice and, in the end, I don't care what the nationality or skin color would be. However, it is obvious certain groups of people are the trouble makers and causing the problems. The other people are the victims on the receiving end who cannot stand up for themselves due to political correctness and world opinion. This is one reason why the police in Ferguson refused to shoot at the looters even though many of the rioters were firing guns at the police.
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It's not just the government, the citizens themselves think they cannot be trusted with weapons. I have recently had a discussion about the need for citizens to carry weapons to protect themselves in the face of Arab violence- the majority of them were against civilians carrying guns.
The main claims against that had been raised are: 1.This would increase the likelihood of everyday incidents such as a bar/club fight and road rage escalating into a fatal shootings, and 2. That civilians without extensive military background don't know how to operate guns properly. Hence they are more likely to cause further casualties due to confusion, hysteria, and poor marksmanship, than to stop the terrorist with effective fire.
Israeli citizens are being massacred in their own country, yet the government and police thugs in Israel insist Jewish citizens cannot be trusted with weapons. If a Jewish guy shoots an Arab he will be skinned alive by the Israeli government. However, an Arab does it, it is because he is oppressed and fighting for his freedom. It sounds similar to way it is with blacks in the USA, who can rob, rape, loot and murder and then be given a pardon because they are fighting against the evils of slavery.
Anyhow, I am a guy who seeks out justice and, in the end, I don't care what the nationality or skin color would be. However, it is obvious certain groups of people are the trouble makers and causing the problems. The other people are the victims on the receiving end who cannot stand up for themselves due to political correctness and world opinion. This is one reason why the police in Ferguson refused to shoot at the looters even though many of the rioters were firing guns at the police.
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It's not just the government, the citizens themselves think they cannot be trusted with weapons. I have recently had a discussion about the need for citizens to carry weapons to protect themselves in the face of Arab violence- the majority of them were against civilians carrying guns.
The main claims against that had been raised are: 1.This would increase the likelihood of everyday incidents such as a bar/club fight and road rage escalating into a fatal shootings, and 2. That civilians without extensive military background don't know how to operate guns properly. Hence they are more likely to cause further casualties due to confusion, hysteria, and poor marksmanship, than to stop the terrorist with effective fire.
Jews are notoriously anti-gun though. I think average Gentile Americans are somewhat more receptive to the Second Amendment.
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I agree with you EveryJew. A strong moral citizenry is extremely important. If society can be this way, the police can focus on the bad guys who are not moral instead of petty things like selling cigarettes illegally.
With that being said, how moral is NYC who votes overwhelmingly for people like DiBlasio? Unfortunately, if you strip power from the NYPD, you won't lead to moral New Yorkers..only Anarachy and increased crime.
Once people follow the law and become moral an decent, less police will be needed.
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I'm glad that there isn't an indictment. I'm surprised because there is a video and the report from the M.E. saying that it was a homicide.
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I'm glad that there isn't an indictment. I'm surprised because there is a video and the report from the M.E. saying that it was a homicide.
I, in some ways, agree because Al Sharpton is representing them and perhaps..just as blacks protest and burn fires which is unjust to cause fear in our hearts..perhaps cops are doing the same so bad citizens who break the law will think twice before messing with a cop.
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He fought back? Am I in the twilight zone right now? He sold cigarettes illegally. That's the only aspect of the law that he broke.
Okay, I had heard he pushed the cop and was resisting arrest. But now that I've seen the video....it looks really bad for the police.
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It's funny how we can all come to different conclusions. I saw the video and what I saw was this: Garner was resisting arrest! When the cops grabbed Garner's hands to 'cuff them, he jerked his hands up into the air. He was a big man and the police know that things can get ugly in such a situation so they rightfully wanted to stop Garner before he got violent (which is NOT uncommon). Garner RESISTED ARREST and, therefore, the other cop put him in a "take down move" which was NOT a choke hold. That "take down move" is taught at the Police Academy. Garner died from a heart attack which was not the fault of the police doing their job. If Garner wouldn't have been involved in a criminal activity, he would be alive today. If hadn't resisted arrest, he would be alive today. These cops on Staten Island did not just go up to an innocent man and kill him. The cop rightfully shouldn't have been indicted for doing his job, I'm sorry. If Garner had not had the heart attack, he would have been taken into custody and that would have been the end of it. It was just the bad luck of these cops that Garner had a heart attack right then and there. Being so fat didn't help Garner either. And I've seen other videos of police where it's very obvious that cops are in the wrong -- and I say so. So it's not like I'm always on the side of the police. I'll tell you another thing. The end result of all of this will be that the cops will be afraid to arrest Black criminals, and Black criminals will have a field day. I mean, let's face it, it already happened in Ferguson. The cops saw the rioters and looters and basically did nothing to stop them. Why? Because they were AFRAID of how the Black community would react. So they didn't stop the rioters, plain and simple. Garner's death is all on Garner, sorry.
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It's funny how we can all come to different conclusions. I saw the video and what I saw was this: Garner was resisting arrest! When the cops grabbed Garner's hands to 'cuff them, he jerked his hands up into the air. He was a big man and the police know that things can get ugly in such a situation so they rightfully wanted to stop Garner before he got violent (which is NOT uncommon). Garner RESISTED ARREST and, therefore, the other cop put him in a "take down move" which was NOT a choke hold. That "take down move" is taught at the Police Academy. Garner died from a heart attack which was not the fault of the police doing their job. If Garner wouldn't have been involved in a criminal activity, he would be alive today. If hadn't resisted arrest, he would be alive today. These cops on Staten Island did not just go up to an innocent man and kill him. The cop rightfully shouldn't have been indicted for doing his job, I'm sorry. If Garner had not had the heart attack, he would have been taken into custody and that would have been the end of it. It was just the bad luck of these cops that Garner had a heart attack right then and there. Being so fat didn't help Garner either. And I've seen other videos of police where it's very obvious that cops are in the wrong -- and I say so. So it's not like I'm always on the side of the police. I'll tell you another thing. The end result of all of this will be that the cops will be afraid to arrest Black criminals, and Black criminals will have a field day. I mean, let's face it, it already happened in Ferguson. The cops saw the rioters and looters and basically did nothing to stop them. Why? Because they were AFRAID of how the Black community would react. So they didn't stop the rioters, plain and simple. Garner's death is all on Garner, sorry.
In my younger, more wild, days I had numerous run-ins with law enforcement. All I have to say is, "Baruch Hashem I am white"...
In one case they said I was resisting arrest. In that case the cop attempted to cuff me (but hadn't announced he was arresting me) and I quickly turned around and moved away from the smallish cop. Then he pulled out his baton and ordered me to the ground announcing that I was resisting and to avoid being hit in the head with the baton I should drop to get down on the ground. Of course I complied but I wonder if I was black if he would have warned me or just acted. I was much bigger than this puny cop...
I don't know the specifics in this case but I believe that a warning should be given before using a baton or a choke hold (or other physical restraints).
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It's funny how we can all come to different conclusions. I saw the video and what I saw was this: Garner was resisting arrest! When the cops grabbed Garner's hands to 'cuff them, he jerked his hands up into the air. He was a big man and the police know that things can get ugly in such a situation so they rightfully wanted to stop Garner before he got violent (which is NOT uncommon). Garner RESISTED ARREST and, therefore, the other cop put him in a "take down move" which was NOT a choke hold. That "take down move" is taught at the Police Academy. Garner died from a heart attack which was not the fault of the police doing their job. If Garner wouldn't have been involved in a criminal activity, he would be alive today. If hadn't resisted arrest, he would be alive today. These cops on Staten Island did not just go up to an innocent man and kill him. The cop rightfully shouldn't have been indicted for doing his job, I'm sorry. If Garner had not had the heart attack, he would have been taken into custody and that would have been the end of it. It was just the bad luck of these cops that Garner had a heart attack right then and there. Being so fat didn't help Garner either. And I've seen other videos of police where it's very obvious that cops are in the wrong -- and I say so. So it's not like I'm always on the side of the police. I'll tell you another thing. The end result of all of this will be that the cops will be afraid to arrest Black criminals, and Black criminals will have a field day. I mean, let's face it, it already happened in Ferguson. The cops saw the rioters and looters and basically did nothing to stop them. Why? Because they were AFRAID of how the Black community would react. So they didn't stop the rioters, plain and simple. Garner's death is all on Garner, sorry.
A grand jury heard all the evidence (and we watched a video).
He seemed to be resisting arrest to me too. Did he have to beat an officer to death for it to be 'resisting'?
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In my younger, more wild, days I had numerous run-ins with law enforcement. All I have to say is, "Baruch Hashem I am white"...
In one case they said I was resisting arrest. In that case the cop attempted to cuff me (but hadn't announced he was arresting me) and I quickly turned around and moved away from the smallish cop. Then he pulled out his baton and ordered me to the ground announcing that I was resisting and to avoid being hit in the head with the baton I should drop to get down on the ground. Of course I complied but I wonder if I was black if he would have warned me or just acted. I was much bigger than this puny cop...
I don't know the specifics in this case but I believe that a warning should be given before using a baton or a choke hold (or other physical restraints).
Did you hear the officers conversation with Eric Garner? I didn't. Maybe they did warn him. How do you suggest they would have gotten him to comply? Beg and plead for him to give up? How is that working for us on a national defense level? I hope and pray the grand jury looked at all the evidence and came up with the best decision.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/
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I think these are good reasons why this case should be tried out. Anyways his resistance posed no danger to anyone. The police better come up with a very good explanation why they chose to escalate that situation into a very violent take down. They gave him about 2 seconds from the moment they tried to handcuff him to when they swarmed over him.
Then later it seems they just let him lie unconscious without anyone trying to check for vital signs, no opening of air ways or anything. Aren't police are supposed to have basic paramedic training?
Did you hear the officers conversation with Eric Garner? I didn't. Maybe they did warn him. How do you suggest they would have gotten him to comply? Beg and plead for him to give up? How is that working for us on a national defense level? I hope and pray the grand jury looked at all the evidence and came up with the best decision.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/eric-garner-chokehold-grand-jury-police/2014/12/04/id/611058/
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This was cold blooded murder recorded on camera. In Ferguson we don't really know for sure what had happened. We are sure in this case.
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This was cold blooded murder recorded on camera. In Ferguson we don't really know for sure what had happened. We are sure in this case.
In Ferguson we do know what happened based on forensic evidence and also the fact that a majority of the witnesses were proven to be lying with their testimonies claiming Brown was executed while he was surrendering, which was proven wrong. So, in fact, it has been proven both with forensics and also from a few honest witnesses and the officer's account what happened in Ferguson and in fact Darren Wilson was the victim and did his job correctly against a violent criminal who just moments earlier strong-arm robbed a store.
The NYPD, in this case, were harassing the man based on a very petty crime they knew he had done in the past, but hadn't done at the time. The police cannot just simply detain you for no reason at all. He was there to break up a fight and was not selling "non-taxed" cigarettes. IMO, the fact that my tax dollars go to pay for police officers arresting people for not paying unconstitutional taxes for out of state cigarettes imported into New York is utterly ridiculous. The man was not being violent and he didn't want to be arrested without probable cause. So, when the officers decided to just handcuff him for no reason he panicked and resisted. Any person who suddenly is surrounded by police and handcuffed may also resist when they are being arrested for no reason.
Anyhow, I found it ridiculous that the police officer gave him a choke hold, used to cut of his air and weaken his resistance and a whole group of police were needed over some freakin cigarettes. But , this is New York City, where people who drink out of large soda containers are considered worse than violent criminals.
New York City is not even part of America anymore, it's ruled by its own corrupt political elite who use our Constitution as toilet paper to wipe their azses with...
Don't the NYPD thugs have anything better to do with our tax dollarsd than harass and beat people up over petty sh*t?
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The NYPD aren't thugs. I'm sure there are bad police officers. But, there are a lot of decent people, in the NYPD, who put their lives on the line for the people of NYC everyday. They are exposed to a lot of different kinds of people every day. Not all of them are decent people either. I witnessed a man about to be arrested play possum. Claimed he was having a heart attack. Threw himself on the floor. His family was wailing. He sure had me wondering. Eventually, he got up and went with the police officers.
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Had Eric Garner not been abusive, and insubordinate, allowed the cuffs, went down to the station and had the report filed, he would have been released and would be alive. The Black Sgt supervisor didn't even stop the officer from administering the maneuvers to subdue Mr. Garner. Be good citizens, comply with the police, you will get more respect by being honest citizens instead of throwing up your arms and causing a riot or having to be subdued...I support the police, they deal with these lawbreakers and anarchists every day while the rest of us go to work, take care of our families, and try to be good citizens. The Blacks follow the example of their President....I JUST DO WHAT I WANT, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LAWS, OR ANYONE ELSE...ITS ALL ABOUT ME, MYSELF AND I. MOST PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THIS!
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Garner also had emphasema, obesity, and heart disease, maybe these are other factors in his death.
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Debbie. You're right. The verdict made sense the more I think about it. Furthermore, there is more to the video than what actually happened? What we don't see is what happened prior to the video.
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I hope all the liberal crybabies who feel sorry for this loitering fat animal who was disrupting the businesses where he was being arrested will one day get the same blessing of having someone like that hang around their place of business or home... This guy was arrested many times before for selling tax exempt loose cigarettes... Many black folks who I have talked to about this case have expressed that he was just trying to make an honest New York living... Sadly I don't see it the same way...Running a profitable business today is no joke... With high rents and utility bills as well the taxes honest business have to pay having a guy like that outside your door could really spell disaster... He was putting his hands right into their cash register... If this guy was sitting in a park somewhere selling his cigs all well and fine however he was disrupting the business of tax paying business people and the police needed to do just what they did... The fact that he dropped dead was due to his own poor health and working himself so up so much resisting arrest.
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In my younger, more wild, days I had numerous run-ins with law enforcement. All I have to say is, "Baruch Hashem I am white"...
In one case they said I was resisting arrest. In that case the cop attempted to cuff me (but hadn't announced he was arresting me) and I quickly turned around and moved away from the smallish cop. Then he pulled out his baton and ordered me to the ground announcing that I was resisting and to avoid being hit in the head with the baton I should drop to get down on the ground. Of course I complied but I wonder if I was black if he would have warned me or just acted. I was much bigger than this puny cop...
I don't know the specifics in this case but I believe that a warning should be given before using a baton or a choke hold (or other physical restraints).
It's not a white or black thing... You were just smart enough not to give the police a great deal of trouble... The police expect some minor protesting when they arrest people but at some point one way or the other the cuffs are going on.
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It's not a white or black thing... You were just smart enough not to give the police a great deal of trouble... The police expect some minor protesting when they arrest people but at some point one way or the other the cuffs are going on.
I've experienced police brutality, and I'm a blue eyed devil. I've even been almost ran over by squad cars(by a miracle one time a car stopped about two inches from my head, the bumper grazed the officer).
I deserved every bit of it!!!
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There's no question that had Eric Garner not resisted arrest he'd be alive today. My only point of contention is that selling loose cigarettes doesn't warrant a death sentence. I'm horrified that literally only one person here can comprehend that. I'm not a liberal or an advocate for black criminals. I'm just a concerned citizen.
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There's no question that had Eric Garner not resisted arrest he'd be alive today. My only point of contention is that selling loose cigarettes doesn't warrant a death sentence. I'm horrified that literally only one person here can comprehend that. I'm not a liberal or an advocate for black criminals. I'm just a concerned citizen.
No, totally agree about them going after him for a stupid cigarette tax law! That's worse than the reason we had the Boston Tea Party! But he did resist. So the cops have the law on their side. Is the law just? Heck no! The cops were doing their job(a little overboard). The law and law makers is the problem!
And the more I remember... I didn't deserve all of the treatment I received from the police. I was targeted sometimes, but it was because of the past or for my reputation. Hell they would just show up and say they forgot to get my finger prints last time, or to check serial numbers on my stuff.
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Please.... DO NOT RESIST.. COMPLY!! That is what the Nazis told us!! I am all for respecting authority and being a good, tax-paying, law-abiding citizen. But, what happens when the authority becomes corrupt, tramples on the very Constitution that has liberated me and gives me freedom and security? What about when that same authority decides to make its own laws , which it will then enforce with an iron fist, even strangling your father right in front of you? How about all the law abiding citizens arrested in New York for exercising their 2nd Amendment rights? The NYPD actively supports a nazi-like government that tramples on our Constitution and empowers the government and weakens the populace. Jews have been made weak and helpless at the hands of ruthless criminals in New York thanks to the laws that criminalize law abiding citizens from defending themselves.
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Remember, the police told the Jews, THEY HAD TO DO THIS OR BE ARRESTED.. It's always good to listen to authority and be "obedient", or is it??
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