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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: chicagojew on July 30, 2015, 01:23:08 PM
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http://www.timesofisrael.com/six-stabbed-at-jerusalem-pride-parade-by-same-assailant-who-attacked-parade-in-2005/
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Title should be "Six stabbed at Sodomite Pride parade in Holy Jerusalem by a Jew who loves his Nation"
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The assailant is a compulsive stabber and probably has "issues" regarding his own sexuality. There is no good coming out of it. Instead of letting that parade pass now we get nonstop queer propaganda everywhere.
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The Government has shown that it does not respect the wishes of the peaceful religious majority and pushes these abominations pride parades in front of the faces of the Bible Believing public.
During past parades the police beat up protesters or even innocent bystanders who they suspected belonged to the anti-gay parades community.
And then they express hypocritical surprise and shock when someone on the other side responds to their violence, with violence.
The same type of hypocritical surprise and shock they express when someone actually resists police bullies who come to destroy Jewish settlements.
The above statement is just my analysis. Not a call to any particular type of action.
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There are pretty dramatic photos of this attack.
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2015/07/30/6202859/62028580100084640360no.jpg)
"guess what is in my pocket?"
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2015/07/30/6202823/62028146692175640360no.jpg)
Deranged coward going after defenseless women
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2015/07/30/6202787/62027790100690640360no.jpg)
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2015/07/30/6202633/620262601001470490491no.jpg)
Or maybe he was just confused which sex is which?
(http://images1.ynet.co.il/PicServer4/2015/07/30/6202920/620291901001194640360no.jpg)
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I cannot support this. These people are mentally ill and should be treated in a hospital for the insane, not murdered.
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50 Zealots like that packing & we can storm The Mount!
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Vayikra 20:13)
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He is a good Jew
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I cannot support this. These people are mentally ill and should be treated in a hospital for the insane, not murdered.
LET them learn not to parade in Jerusalem...
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http://www.inn.co.il/News/News.aspx/303445 reports in Hebrew that someone from Kiryat Malachi was arrested for expressing approval of the stabber on Facebook.
So therefore under these conditions it is impossible to get a true picture what the average Charedi Jew feels about current events.
I myself am not recommending any particular actions, just stating an analysis as I posted above.
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What would R.Kahane say about the Gay Parade?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/198874#.VbtH6psVjn4
And what would he say about the stabber Yishai Shlissel?
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/Resizer.ashx/news/468/282/605478.jpg)
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Now the Jerusalem Chief Rabbi genuflects in grovelling mortification and abject obeisance before pederasts!
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Jerusalem-chief-rabbi-visits-victims-of-gay-pride-parade-stabbing-spree-410758
"In the generation of Ben David.....the Beis HaVa'ad will become a bordello!" (Sotah Mishna IX)
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50 Zealots like that packing & we can storm The Mount!
"If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them." (Vayikra 20:13)
You claim to follow halacha. Halacha does not permit extrajudicial killings by citizens.
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Rule number one when dealing with Leftists is they always lie. The Gays engaged in a provocation, celebrating their perversion in the holiest city in the world. The response was obvious. This is not a endorsement simply an observation.
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This would have NEVER happened in the 1st place if the Left-o-Nazis were not in Israel. NOBODY caused this but the left. They are responsible for every evil in this world.
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LET them learn not to parade in Jerusalem...
Exactly. Go to Gaza and do this.
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Kahane-Was-Right BT a simple reading of Shulchan Aruch, Choshen Mishpat 425:5 is against your understanding,
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21089&st=&pgnum=320
However, you probably are basing your view on
Chazon Ish's commentary to Rambam Hilchot Rotzeach Ushmirat Hanefesh 4:10, The link to his view in Hebrew is provided below
http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?sits=1&req=14333&st=%u05D4%u05E9%u05D2%u05D7%u05D4
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Now they violently arrested a Rabbis wife just because he organized protest against the toeva parade.
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The Government has shown that it does not respect the wishes of the peaceful religious majority and pushes these abominations pride parades in front of the faces of the Bible Believing public.
During past parades the police beat up protesters or even innocent bystanders who they suspected belonged to the anti-gay parades community.
And then they express hypocritical surprise and shock when someone on the other side responds to their violence, with violence.
The same type of hypocritical surprise and shock they express when someone actually resists police bullies who come to destroy Jewish settlements.
The above statement is just my analysis. Not a call to any particular type of action.
Not only are the religious offended by this but so are the traditional & even the chilonim in Jerusalem.
It just doesn't belong here!!!
>:(
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Exactly. Go to Gaza and do this.
Or Mecca. Or Medina. Or anywhere else Muslims are in control.
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They are inhuman to refusing give care to a Hareidim Jew they have sent to gay parade to make sure have headlines around world.
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He was directed to commit violence It shows how perverse by liberating someone ill who was refused care day before Jerusalem event.
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He is officially a murderer, a 16 year old teenage girl died of her injuries. I hope that piece of excrement doesn't get away with murder on an insanity plea.
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No parade by gay brigade and no one is afraid.
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Eretz Yisrael is supposed to be a HOLY land, not a land filled with faggots who parade their peters around.
They KNOW this.
They just hate HaShem.
This Jew is totally frustrated that the holy land is filled with depravity.
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Why is this guy even out of prison to do this again? Just like in the US when they release blacks to murder, rape whatever to do it again and again.
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Eretz Yisrael is supposed to be a HOLY land, not a land filled with faggots who parade their peters around.
They KNOW this.
They just hate HaShem.
This Jew is totally frustrated that the holy land is filled with depravity.
However I have not heard any evidence that anyone had their peter out.
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ADL and these other ' Jewish' organizations are once again showing their true colors:
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-condemnation-not-enough-says-us-jewish-groups-after-baby-killed/
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This ugly Jew is worse then every muslim (no i do not support gay-prides).
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This ugly Jew is worse then every muslim (no i do not support gay-prides).
Worse than EVERY muslim? Um no. Not even close.
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This is something well worth reading if you have the time. I certainly appreciate this point of view:
Why the Gay Pride in Jerusalem is an Abomination
http://cosmicx.blogspot.com/2015/08/why-gay-pride-in-jerusalem-is.html
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Holyland NOT Homoland!!!!
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This is the future of Judaism?!
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2motpue.jpg)
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Yerusha your not the future of Judaism.
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Yerusha your not the future of Judaism.
In all fairness, I would rather that disgusting picture not be there.
Tag you're a great person, you care about Torah, and you're a real fighter.
That said, you called him a nazi, a goy, and now a homo. You know there aren't any non-Jews that know Torah like him, and Chabadkahanist says he's a shomer Jew. Your behavior is disgusting, and you should apologize to him, that's no way to behave to your brother.
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In all fairness, I would rather that disgusting picture not be there.
Tag you're a great person, you care about Torah, and you're a real fighter.
That said, you called him a nazi, a goy, and now a homo. You know there aren't any non-Jews that know Torah like him, and Chabadkahanist says he's a shomer Jew. Your behavior is disgusting, and you should apologize to him, that's no way to behave to your brother.
I am a shomer torah & mitzvos & so is Yerusha I know him for 40 years & I can vouch for it.
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One less queer against Israeli apartheid. But it is very convenient for public opinion that this guy who did the same 10 years ago found himself released just in time to do the same. Who says he wasn't stimulated by the shabak?
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It is due to incompetence of the police. There is no hint of conspirasy and no rational motive for shabak to facilitate that incident.
One less queer against Israeli apartheid. But it is very convenient for public opinion that this guy who did the same 10 years ago found himself released just in time to do the same. Who says he wasn't stimulated by the shabak?
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:usa+israel: :fist:
It's terrible what happened, however, crazy era we're in. Dor HaQueerlev!
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I am a shomer torah & mitzvos & so is Yerusha I know him for 40 years & I can vouch for it.
And your point is what?
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It is due to incompetence of the police. There is no hint of conspirasy and no rational motive for shabak to facilitate that incident.
If his jail sentence ended 2 weeks later, he would have waited until next year's event. I can't see how it's police incompetence. (and there are MANY people accusing of that, not just Zelhar). Zelhar, The justice system set a penalty and he served it, what is the police supposed to do?
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And your point is what?
My point is I was answering in response to this.
In all fairness, I would rather that disgusting picture not be there.
Tag you're a great person, you care about Torah, and you're a real fighter.
That said, you called him a nazi, a goy, and now a homo. You know there aren't any non-Jews that know Torah like him, and Chabadkahanist says he's a shomer Jew. Your behavior is disgusting, and you should apologize to him, that's no way to behave to your brother.
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He should have been removed from Jerusalem during the event. If the police had been better informed that is probably what they would have done. There was evidence for intent since he gave a public interview in charedi radio where he urged people to stop the parade and he said (I'm paraphrasing from memory) if many people will come they could stop it with their protest and blockage, but if it is just a few, then extreme action is needed.
If his jail sentence ended 2 weeks later, he would have waited until next year's event. I can't see how it's police incompetence. (and there are MANY people accusing of that, not just Zelhar). Zelhar, The justice system set a penalty and he served it, what is the police supposed to do?
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He should have been removed from Jerusalem during the event. If the police had been better informed that is probably what they would have done. There was evidence for intent since he gave a public interview in charedi radio where he urged people to stop the parade and he said (I'm paraphrasing from memory) if many people will come they could stop it with their protest and blockage, but if it is just a few, then extreme action is needed.
There's a couple major events in Israel I wish had not happened. This is not one of them. I once convinced a black anti-semite who had been disrespected by some Chassidisher (as her justification), and while I managed to get the right responses to everything she said, in response to "the religious control Israel", I said "they have a homo parade in Jerusalem" and I could have lost her with that one, she said "well i guess the holy land isn't really that holy".
10 of these guys are better than 1 pro-gay missionary in Bennett's posse. I agree with his statement there, and don't think cops should harass Jews who make statements like that, it's a legitimate Torah opinion. Either Israel can have pride or the homos, but any city where they parade is shameful. "Oh no the media cried". Who do you think G-d was mad at that day?
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Whether Schlissel today had a din rodef whereby he himself could be put to death on the spot without beis din is a Halachic question.
(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2015/07/attack-c2-b.jpg)
But if there had been a parade of homosexuals and lesbians in the days of old when men were bold eg King David, anyone in that parade, including nominal heterosexual supporters, would have been fair game to be cut down at once, and a Schlissel would likely have been extolled in the Tenach on the same level as Pinchas ben Elazar!
Judaism is a firm believer in COLLECTIVE punishment, something which most Orthodox, including many ostenible Kahanists will not accept! BZK wrote many articles on the subject.