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Title: The republican debate
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 04, 2015, 10:17:28 PM
And so is huckabee.

Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Baltimore on August 04, 2015, 10:19:55 PM
VERY important point from the following article:
http://news.yahoo.com/debate-stage-drama-gop-awaits-top-10-announcement-071019015--election.html

"Monmouth found that only five candidates — Trump, Bush, Walker, Cruz and Huckabee — were definitely in the top tier of candidates, "
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on August 05, 2015, 09:04:39 PM
Cruz and Huckabee will both be in the main debate.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 06, 2015, 11:34:15 PM
Huckabee and Cruz did the best.

Kasich and rand Paul and Christie are horrendous.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: kahaneloyalist on August 06, 2015, 11:43:54 PM
I think this race is Trump's to lose. Whether he's genuine or not he is saying what lots of people are thinking and if he genuinely seals the border that alone would help America more then anything else.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 06, 2015, 11:46:40 PM
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I agree with Dr. Dan.

I would add that I think the debate was a disaster for Donald Trump.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 07, 2015, 12:45:38 AM
Cruz-Huckabee, 2016!

Is such a ticket possible?


Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: eb22 on August 07, 2015, 01:32:36 AM
Is such a ticket possible?

No.   While that ticket would greatly appeal to me and probably most JTF participants,   the two candidates are too similar to capture a large enough % of the vote.   
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Mein Koran on August 07, 2015, 02:05:28 AM
Katich might be a strategic VP, to alleviate the idea that Cruz is an "extremist" and to capture Ohio due to Kasich's high approval ratings there.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 07, 2015, 02:13:06 AM
What if Huckabee won? Who would be his running mate?


Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: eb22 on August 07, 2015, 02:38:25 AM
What if Huckabee won? Who would be his running mate?

Marco Rubio comes to mind as a possibility.   This would provide the ticket with a governor and a senator.   As well as someone from the critical swing state of Florida.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 07, 2015, 08:05:34 AM
Trump and Carson were clowns, but entertaining clowns. 

Rubio was the best of the rhinos.

Paul was a disaster, thank Gd. Jeb bush was boring. walker is a fraud and I think will be bad for Israel. Not as bad as the democrats, but as bad as anyone before Obama c
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 07, 2015, 08:11:53 AM
Likely vp candidates would be Rubio or even fiorina(if an establishment rhino wins the candidacy). Rand Paul may be a choice from a dumb establishment rhino if he won.

Kasich makes Hillary look like an extremist. That's how left wing he is. With that being said, I think he has the best chance winning swing votes and democrats who are tired of the clintons and Obama.

Not sure what his stance is on Israel, but it seems like the type who will be focused on America and supposedly fixing the economy. I see him raising taxes on the rich to help "less advantaged" angry blacks.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Zelhar on August 07, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
I think the Scott Walker and the Governor from Ohio are potentially vice prez candidates, maybe that's the reason they are in the race.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: NoMosqueHere on August 07, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
I disagree about Kasich.  I think he will go far in this process.  He has a rugged, mid western common man persona, the son of a mailman and a moderate conservative guy.  I am very wary about his positions on Iran and immigration, but I think he will do well.   Trump will implode eventually but the immigration issue will carry him along for a bit.  Rand Paul looked like an angry midget.  Huckabee lacks pizzazz.  Scott Walker looked like a school boy.  Cruz may catch fire but I really don't think he's electable in 2015 America.  Bush looked like a hihgh school teacher.  Bad night for the republicans.  Megyn Kelly was unbelievably mean to all of them; I have never seen a more ruthless performance by a journalist.  It was downright painful to watch and a huge distraction.  But she probably came out the big winner of the night (the left praised her performance) which was probably the whole point of this Fox spectacular.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on August 07, 2015, 05:52:50 PM
I like the fact that Trump called all politicans stupid, which they are.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Zelhar on August 07, 2015, 07:01:38 PM
Donald Trump went on a crazy ad hominem twit attack on Megyn Kelly. He even called her a bimbo. Very immature in my opinion.


Quote
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
"@timjcam: @megynkelly @FrankLuntz @realDonaldTrump Fox viewers give low marks to bimbo  @MegynKelly will consider other programs!"
10:24 AM - 7 Aug 2015

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/07/donald-trump-goes-all-out-against-megyn-kelly-over-alleged-debate-bias-heres-what-he-tweeted-about-her/
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on August 07, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
At least Trump answered well when asked about his comments on women. As long as he is offensive to evil women, it's okay. As long as he makes clear it is not directed at good women, who cares? He said he doesn't care about political correct garbage.

But I disagree with him on his comments on breast feeding.

Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Zelhar on August 07, 2015, 07:18:52 PM
He fails here miserably because he uses dumb sexist remarks because she asked him if he has problem behaving with women.

He also said on an interview "There was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her... wherever".
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/08/07/breaking-trump-out-at-rsg15/

So fox may have been hostile towards him, but at the same time they gave him more airtime then anyone else which gave him a big advantage. I think in a real debate where he has to back and forth with a reasonable opponent and give logical arguments Trump is going to get killed.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: White Israelite on August 08, 2015, 07:24:49 PM
I really liked Ted Cruz and his positions, Marco rubio was also interesting and sounds like someone who stuck out from a realistic perspective.

Wasn't a fan of Scott Walker, seems very mellow and making excuses relying on perceived success, Donald Trump seems like a troll and his history seems to show that, I think he causes more damage to the GOP . Rand Paul, after hearing his stances, he really didn't have much to say but after hearing him, don't like him either, Chris Christie reminded me too much of Bush.

I think it'll be either Ted Cruz or Marco rubio for me.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 08, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
I came away from the debate really impressed with Ted Cruz.  They didn't give him enough airtime.  When they did,  he knocked it out of the park.  What a classy, cool and collected person with strong arguments. I think Rubio was campaigning to be someone's VP.   
Trump claims his views have evolved.  I'm not sure if I believe him. He certainly learned from Obama that anyone, literally anyone, can become president in this country.

Rubio and bush were pandering like mad when trump brought up the idea of a wall to keep illegals out.  The whole world knows they are both against it.  But they implied otherwise.  They said we want a wall but also verification and ID system.   They flat out lie.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Nachus on August 09, 2015, 02:42:49 AM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                                                                                                                             :fist:

  In retrospect, I have to say that Mike Huckabee made excellent points and Ted Cruz conducted himself with the integrity and demeanor of a
  real Conservative. Donald Trump seemed to be part of this debate for show and was not his best, mostly offering no effective or realistic
  solutions to issues despite the fact that he contained himself  the best he could in view of the way he was basically put on the defensive and
  was somewhat reactionary unlike Cruz and Huckabee who were smooth but to the point.  Hopefully Trump does not go the route of running as
  an independent and we have another Ross Perot situation paving the way for Hillary to G-d forbid, by some tragedy win.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on August 09, 2015, 03:52:00 PM
What do you guys think of what Trump said about Megan Kelly?
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 09, 2015, 05:44:49 PM
Yes, Both Huckabee and Cruz did a great job.  I think Fox should have asked more questions of both of them, they seemed to favor Bush and Rubio.   Cruz is really smart....Those who take him on find themselves dismantled in no time!
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: TruthSpreader on August 09, 2015, 05:46:56 PM
Seriously do any of you think Trump will win? Not a chance.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 09, 2015, 06:09:46 PM
I think Trump says too many disparaging words about people.  I just don't feel hes Presidential material...He has donated to a lot of politicians, especially the Clintons.  So his money went to their foundation, they are responsible for the corruption and bad things happening to America and Israel, including the borders and illegal aliens coming in in droves.   Trump wants to fix it, but he has contributed money to those who haven't fixed it....I am just tired of rich elites giving corrupt politicians money, who do not work for the People, but a global agenda....We need a True Conservative...Its about time..... someone who will keep their word and do what they say.  You know where Cruz and Huckabee stand on Israel!
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: White Israelite on August 09, 2015, 06:31:30 PM
I came away from the debate really impressed with Ted Cruz.  They didn't give him enough airtime.  When they did,  he knocked it out of the park.  What a classy, cool and collected person with strong arguments. I think Rubio was campaigning to be someone's VP.   
Trump claims his views have evolved.  I'm not sure if I believe him. He certainly learned from Obama that anyone, literally anyone, can become president in this country.

Rubio and bush were pandering like mad when trump brought up the idea of a wall to keep illegals out.  The whole world knows they are both against it.  But they implied otherwise.  They said we want a wall but also verification and ID system.   They flat out lie.

I didn't get any vibe that rubio supports illegal immigration. The only system that could theoretically work is possibly a security fence similar to what Israel has. Some interesting comments were made how drug smugglers are using tunnels to circumvent walls.
Title: Re: The republican debate
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 09, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
apparently there was a vendetta against Trump by Fox all along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD-Th9jzrDM