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Title: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Ari on September 02, 2007, 10:22:23 PM
One of my main hobbies is following the stock market, particularly online.  Anyone in the forum share the same interest?  Any Jim Cramer Booyah fans?  He's Jewish you know.  I wish he would help Chaim out and send him some of his money, but I think he tends Liberal, or is so consumed with the markets he doesn't have time for anything else. 
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 02, 2007, 10:37:22 PM
Scriabin would be. He's loaded.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Daniel on September 02, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
I know next to nothing about the Stock market. When I saw the movie "Trading Places", I was completely confused about how Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd were able to pull off that stunt where they became rich while making the two rich guys that screwed them over poor. My father had to explain all of this to me, and that's basically how I learned how the stock market works :)

I would never invest in stocks on my own. That would be the equivlent of going to Vegas and betting a bundle. I invest my money in the teachers retirement system and tax deferred annuities and just letting the money grow on its own from there. I'd only consider investing money in a reliable mutual fund with the advice of close friends and family who know what they're doing and are fairly knowledgable.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 03, 2007, 01:38:19 AM
Scriabin would be. He's loaded.

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 03, 2007, 01:40:47 AM
Scriabin would be. He's loaded.

What are you talking about?
Relax, I'm not baiting you.

I read about your generous donations to the cause.

ALL HONOUR TO YOU, SCRIABIN......HONOUR TO YOU.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 03, 2007, 01:42:30 AM
Scriabin would be. He's loaded.

What are you talking about?
Relax, I'm not baiting you.

I read about your generous donations to the cause.

ALL HONOUR TO YOU, SCRIABIN......HONOUR TO YOU.

Yeah, right.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: judeanoncapta on September 03, 2007, 02:14:12 AM
I'm trying to get into it.

Any tips, Scriabin?
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: ItalianZionist on September 03, 2007, 05:03:13 AM
Buy mutual funds....in asian markets.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Dr. Dan on September 03, 2007, 10:17:55 AM
the hot stocks now are Apple, Google, RIMM, Amazon  :laugh:
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 03, 2007, 10:27:20 AM
I'm trying to get into it.

Any tips, Scriabin?

Invest in China.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: raiseyourfist on September 03, 2007, 10:33:22 AM
Buy land.. because G-d aint making any more of it ;)
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2007, 10:33:59 AM
I'm trying to get into it.

Any tips, Scriabin?

Invest in China.

Wouldn't that present a moral dilemna since that would be investing in a communist country?
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 03, 2007, 01:20:36 PM
I'm trying to get into it.

Any tips, Scriabin?

Invest in China.

Wouldn't that present a moral dilemna since that would be investing in a communist country?

I'm talking about making money.

This has nothing to do with morality.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 03, 2007, 06:58:37 PM
Buy land.. because G-d aint making any more of it ;)

Toni Soprano?
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Sarah on September 03, 2007, 07:03:13 PM
Currency would be the most exciting thing to Invest in, since it changes every second. How is it possible to determine the risk of a lot of stock index?

Metal is also quite a primary investment.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 03, 2007, 07:10:20 PM
Currency would be the most exciting thing to Invest in, since it changes every second. How is it possible to determine the risk of a lot of stock index?

Metal is also quite a primary investment.

You're full of surprises. ;D
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Sarah on September 04, 2007, 06:53:49 PM
Currency would be the most exciting thing to Invest in, since it changes every second. How is it possible to determine the risk of a lot of stock index?

Metal is also quite a primary investment.

You're full of surprises. ;D

At times. ;D
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Vito on September 04, 2007, 08:02:40 PM
I would love to get into the stock market, specifically day trading, preferably with stock options.
A forum filled with Jews, and not a single stock guru???? That's like a forum filled with Italians, and nobody knows how to cook!!! Come on people.. I want to make more money, help!:D
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 04, 2007, 09:08:11 PM
I want to get into stocks in the future. I have played the stock market game like in 5th grade (my group actually did well and beat many college and high school teams - but it was fake $  :'(). Currently I dont pay much attention to them.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 09:14:23 PM
I would love to get into the stock market, specifically day trading, preferably with stock options.
A forum filled with Jews, and not a single stock guru???? That's like a forum filled with Italians, and nobody knows how to cook!!! Come on people.. I want to make more money, help!:D

A self-hating forum based in Manhattan would probably know.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Vito on September 04, 2007, 09:42:29 PM
Good thinking Newman! I'll just pretend I'm a self-hating Jew and ask for stock advice!
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 09:46:48 PM
Good thinking Newman! I'll just pretend I'm a self-hating Jew and ask for stock advice!

You know how...... crap on about Israel being as bad as (you know who ), You'd rather live in Europe etc etc.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: judeanoncapta on September 04, 2007, 10:27:26 PM
Ha!!!!!

If we were the type of Jews who knew how to make money, we would be off making money and not caring and being idealistic.

Sometimes money can blind you so much that you won't see anything but it. Actually, it's probably a good thing that we don't know how to make money.

A blessing in disguise, I suppose.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 10:31:57 PM
Ha!!!!!

If we were the type of Jews who knew how to make money, we would be off making money and not caring and being idealistic.

Sometimes money can blind you so much that you won't see anything but it. Actually, it's probably a good thing that we don't know how to make money.

A blessing in disguise, I suppose.

NO.

You'd be idealistic, just not about Jews or Israel.

You'd be demanding more tax $ get spent on schvartzas & wetbacks.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: judeanoncapta on September 04, 2007, 10:33:53 PM
Good, so you see my point.

nice tag. Arabs eat shiite, live in shiite, are shiite. All of the above.
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 10:42:02 PM
Good, so you see my point.

nice tag. Arabs eat shiite, live in shiite, are shiite. All of the above.

And a "farshtunken people", to boot.(http://aycu12.webshots.com/image/26251/2001606672417982354_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2001606672417982354)

Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Ari on September 04, 2007, 11:40:12 PM
Glad to see you guys have an interest in this subject.  I spend a pretty good amount of time on stocks.  I wouldn't call myself a guru, as it can certainly be a very humbling field even for "so called" experts, whom I personally believe are very few and far between by the way.  Vito, if you want, a Jewish stock guru, I'm sure you've probably heard of CNBC's Jim Cramer, who's pretty much all over the place.  In addition to CNBC, he owns and operates a great website at www.thestreet.com which is full of information, trading ideas, and investment opportunities on a daily basis.  They're are literally tons of other sites on the internet I could mention if you guys want to know.  I prefer individual stocks to mutual funds because the returns are far greater if you hit them right.  Actually, if you do your homework, I think you are likely to better your returns with single stocks than funds, and every statistic I have read supports this as well, by a pretty large margin.  Still, you have to know your own risk tolerance and if you are not comfortable putting a lot of work in, or don't have the time, you may be best off with an index fund that simply tries to track the returns of the overall market, or large segments of it.  Options are a great tool to give you leverage if you don't want to put up all the money needed to invest in stocks.  However, you have to use them smartly and conservatively because if you don't know what you're doing you are likely to lose all your money.  A great place to learn about options without wasting a lot of money on a course is www.888options.com.  They have a tremendous amount of free information which is probably as good as, or even better, than anything you could pay for, in my opinion.  What else?  Asian and BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China)stocks are certainly hot right now, but you do have to bear in mind that you are dealing with a still Communist country, which despite pretty strong Democratic leanings in finance, could hurt your investment at any time.  Of course, any new terrorist event would also spell short term disaster for the markets, but probably create a long-term buying opportunity.  Well, that's all for now.  Feel free to ask me any questions and if I know the answer, I'll respond.

P.S.  Two more great sites - Yahoo Finance at yahoo.com and Investopedia at www.investopedia.com
   
Title: Re: Any Stock Market Fans in the Forum!
Post by: Bodhi on September 18, 2007, 10:19:38 PM
Light sweet crude has been doing very well the last few years  ;D