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Title: God works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 03, 2007, 06:43:03 PM
There is a hurricane named Felix and a tropical storm within the next 24 hours that can form into a Cat. 1 hurricane named Henrietta.  Felix in the Atlanic and Henrietta in the Pacific in the middle happens to be Mexico and Central America.  God maybe giving Mexico a dosage for the Illegal border crossers to "Stay on your side of the border Lopez."
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 03, 2007, 06:51:16 PM
Oh, and don't forget Hurricane Dean aimed the same area just a week ago.  The same target Felix is barreling down to.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 03, 2007, 06:53:01 PM
There is a hurricane named Felix and a tropical storm within the next 24 hours that can form into a Cat. 1 hurricane named Henrietta.  Felix in the Atlanic and Henrietta in the Pacific in the middle happens to be Mexico and Central America.  G-d maybe giving Mexico a dosage for the Illegal border crossers to "Stay on your side of the border Lopez."

And I and my family were punished by G-d via Katrina for ... ???
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mord on September 03, 2007, 06:54:08 PM
No it was the people who had mardi gras in new orleans
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 03, 2007, 06:54:26 PM
What happen with Katrina was horrifc, what happen after Katrina was even worst man.  
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 03, 2007, 06:54:54 PM
No it was the people who had mardi gras in new orleans
  Ahh, I see "collateral damage ".... :o
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 03, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
Katrina had slammed into the entire Gulf coast but all you heard was New Orleans,, They were stealing plasma tvs and shooting at each other.  Not to mention savages when they were put into the Superdome, there were shootings, rapings, killings they deficated everywhere.   Mississippi and Alabama were torn from the storm but you did not have what you had in New Orleans.  Thant and the fact New Orleans was lead by this...

http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/nagin_chocolatecity.jpg

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/nagin_chocolatecity_reeses_1.gif
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mord on September 03, 2007, 07:00:15 PM
No it was the people who had mardi gras in new orleans
  Ahh, I see "collateral damage ".... :o
I see your point
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 03, 2007, 07:05:38 PM
Katrina had slammed into the entire Gulf coast but all you heard was New Orleans,, They were stealing plasma tvs and shooting at each other.  Not to mention savages when they were put into the Superdome, there were shootings, rapings, killings they deficated everywhere.   Mississippi and Alabama were torn from the storm but you did not have what you had in New Orleans.  Thant and the fact New Orleans was lead by this...

http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/nagin_chocolatecity.jpg

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/nagin_chocolatecity_reeses_1.gif

We had more damage too our home from looters than the strom it self. They punched holes in the walls, poured beer on the floor, peed on the floor. We took everything we had that had worth. Guess it ticked them off.

I'm so sick of the MSM . Guess I'm the wrong colour, and live some where other than Louisiana.
POOR WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A GOOD NEWS STORY.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2007, 07:18:33 PM
Katrina had slammed into the entire Gulf coast but all you heard was New Orleans,, They were stealing plasma tvs and shooting at each other.  Not to mention savages when they were put into the Superdome, there were shootings, rapings, killings they deficated everywhere.   Mississippi and Alabama were torn from the storm but you did not have what you had in New Orleans.  Thant and the fact New Orleans was lead by this...

http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/nagin_chocolatecity.jpg

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/images/nagin_chocolatecity_reeses_1.gif

We had more damage too our home from looters than the strom it self. They punched holes in the walls, poured beer on the floor, peed on the floor. We took everything we had that had worth. Guess it ticked them off.

I'm so sick of the MSM . Guess I'm the wrong colour, and live some where other than Louisiana.
POOR WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE A GOOD NEWS STORY.

I saw the extra significance and uniqueness of Katrina, not so much about the race that was involved, but more to do with the fact that there was an entire town that was under water where there were massive casualties.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2007, 07:20:50 PM
Katrina was to punish America for the deeds of Bush pressuring Israel. Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse it will be cursed. Nations are judged by their leaders. I also heard that Christian leaders said that Katrina came in order to stop a queer parade in New Orleans.



That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: newman on September 03, 2007, 07:27:53 PM


I saw the extra significance and uniqueness of Katrina, not so much about the race that was involved, but more to do with the fact that there was an entire town that was under water where there were massive casualties.

No Daniel, it wasn't about RACE.

Didn't you see all the whites shooting at the rescuers and looting the stores?? ::)
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2007, 07:31:45 PM
Many people have said it was in retaliation for the expulsion from Gaza.



The same thing can be interpreted about the tsunami that took place several months before that. Do you believe that there was some sort of divine intervention that caused the tsunami and that this was done in some way to punish evil people?
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 03, 2007, 07:42:14 PM
It's amazing, Olmert and Bush still have homes, and G-d did not attack them. G-d took his revenge on the people of the Gulf Coast instead of our leaders ?   ???
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2007, 07:49:36 PM
Yes. It was done to kill Muslims.

Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, ZT"L, spoke of all these events as being part of The End of Days.



I'm speechless
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2007, 08:28:37 PM
Re:  "...G-d took his revenge on the people of the Gulf Coast instead of our leaders ?..."

It would appear that way.

It states clearly in Torah that Ha'Shem uses evil rulers to work His will.

He's obviously not finished with the leaders yet.

As for the people?

The majority stand with their leaders in their decision to destroy the Land Of Israel and create a Terrorist Nazi PLO State, and Torah also states that Ha'Shem punishes those enemies of Israel "in equal measure".

Torah also makes clear that the righteous are caused to suffer because of the acts of the wicked.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: newman on September 03, 2007, 08:31:28 PM
Massuh is right.

If it wasn't this way, the righteous would have no motivation to oppose evil leaders.

That's not to say we're unsympathetic to people like MW and his family.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MasterWolf1 on September 03, 2007, 08:55:45 PM
The unfortunate part good people are the victim from the evil doers which is the same about it.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 03, 2007, 09:03:12 PM
actually right after the Tsunami, I saw a piece of Gemorah somewhere in Berachot talking about how in the future their will be 2 tears from G-d coming down and this is an earthquake, one in the east and one in the west, and it will be close to the time of the redemption. (I vagualy remeber it) but after the second one I wasnt suprised. ( I wish I had that piece in front of me right now, and If anyone knows where exactly to find it please PM me.)
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2007, 09:31:43 PM
Re:  "...Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, ZT"L, spoke of all these events as being part of The End of Days..."

True.

All of the present events we are witnessing have been foretold, and all Torah Sages throughout history have studied our Jewish Prophets and waited patiently for the presently ongoing signs of our imminent Final Redemption.

It should be noted here, that each and every one of our prophecies of The End of Days are also major tenets of Christianity, and all believers are paying attention to the news these days.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on September 03, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 04, 2007, 07:48:32 PM
Re:  "...G-d took his revenge on the people of the Gulf Coast instead of our leaders ?..."

It would appear that way.

It states clearly in Torah that Ha'Shem uses evil rulers to work His will.

He's obviously not finished with the leaders yet.

As for the people?

The majority stand with their leaders in their decision to destroy the Land Of Israel and create a Terrorist Nazi PLO State, and Torah also states that Ha'Shem punishes those enemies of Israel "in equal measure".

Torah also makes clear that the righteous are caused to suffer because of the acts of the wicked.


I have never understood this concept. Is it a way to make the "non wicked" more aware of the "wicked" people ?
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Sarah on September 04, 2007, 08:08:26 PM
Mosquewatch I just finished reading an article in the National Geographic magazine about New Orleans and its weather and flooding problems. In the early 1900's the city spent most of the year under water as the years progressed flood barriers were continuosly broken down until major action took place and the cuty began to rebuild, even though the land itself there is sinking. In the 60's there was another flooding and that was solved, and after another 40 odd years the problem sought to occur again..........it wasn't so much a freak incident but a disaster waiting to happen due to the flaws in the land itself.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: mosquewatch on September 04, 2007, 08:10:39 PM
Mosquewatch I just finished reading an article in the National Geographic magazine about New Orleans and its weather and flooding problems. In the early 1900's the city spent most of the year under water as the years progressed flood barriers were continuosly broken down until major action took place and the cuty began to rebuild, even though the land itself there is sinking. In the 60's there was another flooding and that was solved, and after another 40 odd years the problem sought to occur again..........it wasn't so much a freak incident but a disaster waiting to happen due to the flaws in the land itself.

Yes but I live in Mississippi.  ???
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 04, 2007, 09:03:15 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!

Sorry, I just don't believe that natural disasters have any type of moral purpose or order behind them. Call me a heretic if you'd like, that's just my view.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 09:04:56 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!

Sorry, I just don't believe that natural disasters have any type of moral purpose or order behind them. Call me a heretic if you'd like, that's just my view.
HERETIC!
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Daniel on September 04, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!

Sorry, I just don't believe that natural disasters have any type of moral purpose or order behind them. Call me a heretic if you'd like, that's just my view.
HERETIC!

Thank you. Now say it three more times.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Ehud on September 04, 2007, 09:11:36 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!

Sorry, I just don't believe that natural disasters have any type of moral purpose or order behind them. Call me a heretic if you'd like, that's just my view.
HERETIC!

Thank you. Now say it three more times.

I actually tend to agree with you Daniel, but I'm not absolutely positive. :)  I'm still grappling with the extent of G-d's hand in the world today.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: newman on September 04, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
Daniel scoffs:  "...That sounds about as plausible as the theory that Bush blew up the levees..."

What you need, is to read the Book of Daniel!

Sorry, I just don't believe that natural disasters have any type of moral purpose or order behind them. Call me a heretic if you'd like, that's just my view.
HERETIC!

Thank you. Now say it three more times.

No, you managed to grasp that one.
Title: Re: G-d works in mysterious ways 2 Hurricanes
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on September 04, 2007, 09:27:09 PM
G-d controls everything 100%. Everything is in the hand of heaven except the fear of heaven.(keeping mitzvot and keeping away from Averot).

http://www.torahanytime.com/rav_mizrachi.html -listin to the lecture Faith.