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Title: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Rivera on September 09, 2007, 09:35:23 AM
Know your roots! go to www.noahidenations.com
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 02:22:05 PM
Can you explein a bit more ?
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Rivera on September 10, 2007, 02:39:04 PM
Shalom the website I gave will tell you all you need to know. Hashem on that blessed day that he gave moses 613 commandments to the Jewish people he also gave 7 commandments to the nations of the world. G-D called the Jewish people to be a light unto the nations. the nations of the world are to learn from the Jewish people who is the true G-D. we are to serve G-D under the Jewish people. the nations of the world has corrupted the Torah. the nations of the world are in in Idolatry. they serve a false G-D. go to the website you Will find ALL the answers there.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 02:45:31 PM
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go to the website you Will find ALL the answers there.
I'm Jewish .

Anyway, I don't know if the thing you did (trying to convince Christians become Noahides) is allowed on JTF .
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 02:46:29 PM
I don't like the images in the introduction of the website.

When did Noah walk beside God? Is it metaphorical?

Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 02:49:19 PM
I don't like the images in the introduction of the website.

When did Noah walk beside G-d? Is it metaphorical?


No, it isn't metaphorical :
Genesis 6:9 "These are the records of the generations of Noah. Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his time; Noah walked with God."
"....Noah walked with God" means that Noah did everything that god commended him to do .
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: New Yorker on September 10, 2007, 02:51:00 PM


Didn't see any images of Noah walking beside G-d, just Noah, and some people working on the ark. And, um, walking with G-d is a figure of speech.  :)
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 03:11:02 PM
Thanks.

And is the Genesis in the old testement? :) Sorry, i don't know these things.

I don't think its right to have lots of images of the Prophets, it creates images which could be quite different to that of the real event, misleading people.

Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 03:15:48 PM
Thanks.

And is the Genesis in the old testement? :) Sorry, i don't know these things.

I don't think its right to have lots of images of the Prophets, it creates images which could be quite different to that of the real event, misleading people.


Genesis is the first book in the Whole bible and in the Torah .
In hebrew the book Genesis name is : "BeReshit" - At the begining (and that's how the first verse in the english BeReshit is starting "At the begining G-d crated the Heaven (In hebrew it's "Sky") and the earth" .

as Jewish you shouldn't call it "old testement" because it's the only real testement (in a jewish way of veiw).
You should learn Hebrew and TRY to read the Torah in hebrew, but it's very hard because it's Biblecal hebrew and it's kinda diffrent .

For now, you should read the whole jewish bible (24 books  ;D) .
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 03:19:54 PM
Yeah I should. ;D

Dexter have you ever heard of a story about the people of the cave?
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 03:21:40 PM
Yeah I should. ;D

Dexter have you ever heard of a story about the people of the cave?
No.....
Can you tell me about it ?
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 04:07:40 PM
Thanks.

And is the Genesis in the old testement? :) Sorry, i don't know these things.

I don't think its right to have lots of images of the Prophets, it creates images which could be quite different to that of the real event, misleading people.




Remember that Judaism is not Islam and drawings are okay, as long as they are not graven images.



How about charms and items that are mean't to have holy inscriptions on them on mean something, are they prohibited? Since they lead people to believe that by wearing those items they are protected, yet God is the One we should turn to.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 04:09:01 PM
Yeah I should. ;D

Dexter have you ever heard of a story about the people of the cave?
No.....
Can you tell me about it ?

You  don't believe in it, its it the Quran. I just wanted to check if it had been taken from the Torah.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: TheStore on September 10, 2007, 04:26:47 PM
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go to the website you Will find ALL the answers there.
I'm Jewish .

Anyway, I don't know if the thing you did (trying to convince Christians become Noahides) is allowed on JTF .
Why not? G-d wants us to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Noahides
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 04:31:19 PM
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go to the website you Will find ALL the answers there.
I'm Jewish .

Anyway, I don't know if the thing you did (trying to convince Christians become Noahides) is allowed on JTF .
Why not? G-d wants us to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Noahides
And the Christians believe that Jesus (if i'm not mistaken) wants tham to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Christian, should we allow it on this forum ?
And if we don't allow Christians why would we allow Noahides ? it should be equel .
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 04:33:20 PM
Everyone is a Noachide, its not a matter of converting but understanding that you are.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: decimos on September 10, 2007, 04:37:37 PM
Know your roots! go to www.noahidenations.com

all people of the world  are"B'nei Noach" and infact the 7-laws were passed to Gentiles before the Torah was handed to Moses from Hashem,as the Jews had not been "elevated to, Light unto the Nations at that point.I agree however that more should be done to make ppl more aware of their past.for me,JTF/forums have done that for me,so thank you.blessings for you and your families

ps Dexter,attach your self to a Rabbi  or learned Jew as they can assist you become a Noachide chassid, we have 7 laws that are really quite important.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: jdl4ever on September 10, 2007, 04:37:52 PM
Why not? G-d wants us to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Noahides

On this forum it is not allowed.  Revera, you've been nothing but trouble ever since you came here so this is your WARNING to settle down. 
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 04:39:59 PM
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ps Dexter,attach your self to a Rabbi  or learned Jew as they can assist you become a Noachide chassid, we have 7 laws that are really quite important.
I'M JEWISHHH



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Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: ftf on September 10, 2007, 04:47:48 PM
I really don't know why, but this topic just makes me laugh.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: decimos on September 10, 2007, 04:54:53 PM
my apologies Dexter i ment no offence to you.but with respect xians and  Noachide chassid are not of the same stuff...we dont follow xian  beliefs insomuch as the Torah is, Psalm 119:105 NUN. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
From this we can know that the "word" of G-d, His Torah, His TeNaCh (Bible) will enlighten our steps, as we walk in His paths, step by step.And the Jews are his priests who guide us,and for my part i aknowledge the Holy Land is by divine right,  Jewish.And that all that is written will come to pass.I do not believe in the xian version of J----.or the New Testament for that matter.so Noachide chassids should be allowed on this forum.

ps i claim not authority on this subject,seek a Rabbi or learned Jew.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Sarah on September 10, 2007, 04:55:14 PM
I really don't know why, but this topic just makes me laugh.

You're probably tired.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Dexter on September 10, 2007, 04:57:49 PM
my apologies Dexter i ment no offence to you.but with respect xians and  Noachide chassid are not of the same stuff...we dont follow xian  beliefs insomuch as the Torah is, Psalm 119:105 NUN. Thy word [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
From this we can know that the "word" of G-d, His Torah, His TeNaCh (Bible) will enlighten our steps, as we walk in His paths, step by step.And the Jews are his priests who guide us,and for my part i aknowledge the Holy Land is by divine right,  Jewish.And that all that is written will come to pass.I do not believe in the xian version of J----.or the New Testament for that matter.so Noachide chassids should be allowed on this forum.

ps i claim not authority on this subject,seek a Rabbi or learned Jew.

What does "XIAN" means ?
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: decimos on September 10, 2007, 05:00:58 PM
Christians   {xians}   sorry i never made that clear.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Rivera on September 10, 2007, 05:02:54 PM
The truth is troubling to those who want to keep other people in darkness!
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: decimos on September 10, 2007, 05:07:06 PM
indeed.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: TheStore on September 10, 2007, 05:07:40 PM
Why not? G-d wants us to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Noahides

On this forum it is not allowed.  Revera, you've been nothing but trouble ever since you came here so this is your WARNING to settle down. 
Um...Im Matt...not Revera. What trouble am I causing? I appologize.
Title: Re: To members of Jtf who are not Jewish
Post by: Rivera on September 10, 2007, 05:17:41 PM
Why not? G-d wants us to convert Memebrs of other faiths to be Noahides

On this forum it is not allowed.  Revera, you've been nothing but trouble ever since you came here so this is your WARNING to settle down. 
Um...Im Matt...not Revera. What trouble am I causing? I appologize.
He was talking to me [RIVERA] i would like to know his definition of trouble.