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Save Western Civilization => Save America => Topic started by: newman on September 12, 2007, 12:35:01 PM
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Yes, indeed.
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Even though she does not listen, I enjoy telling her how wrong she is!
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Erica, do you defend the immoral behaviour of some Blacks?
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
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Erica, do you defend the immoral behaviour of some Blacks?
Quote from: newman on Today at 01:16:24 AM
Quote from: Erica on Today at 12:58:57 AM
So you're saying its perfectly okay to say "YOU" people, eventhough I may not be the person you're referring to? High percentages don't matter now. We've already established that I'm not part of the 'grand number' of evil blacks in America but why must you call them 'MY" people if I don't represent anything they're doing? Do you understand? Do you think that's fair? Why not call them out on their own?
Because if you are going to allign yourself with and defend them, folks are going to say to you 'your people'.
If you attack the majority of blacks consistantly, people won't associate you with them. Your problem is that you only attack TNB sometimes and defend it the rest of the time.
Imerica's quote... May 30, 2007, 07:22:02 PM
...However I have admitted that the black community has a problem that makes it hard for people to assimilate around every one of us.
May 30, 2007, 07:55:30 PM
I can't express this strongly enough... for everyone else... I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BLACK CULTURE THAT ISN'T GOOD. I AM NOT BLIND, STUPID, OR EVIL. Just because I'm not fighting fire with fire, like some of you, it dosen't mean I'm not fighting in other ways. You think people who speak of peace and finding alternative routes to take when fighting the good fight against the bad people are evil. Great. Whatever. But I assure you that me teaching my children right from wrong will save you a lot of grief in the long run. Because if I nor their dad wasn't present in their lives they would/could very well turn out like those in the black community you hate.
Quote from: ItalianZionist on June 02, 2007, 11:30:18 PM
You're right the jews shouldn't be happy about the Holocaust, just as you should not be happy about your ancestor's suffering. But more AfroAmericans should realize that they did increase their standard of living by coming here and stop acting as if they are suffering just as badly as their ancestors did.
Response from Imerica: June 02, 2007, 11:32:38 PM »
I agree that the slave mentality needs to stop and has needed to be stopped a long time ago... people who were born free shouldn't act like they're still in chains.
Quote from Imerica: June 03, 2007, 03:23:26 PM »
To cjd...
And the black youth of today DO need to learn the truth..that blacks did sell other blacks into slavery but they also need to know what happened during the trip to America and what happened once they arrived to America. If you want to tell the truth...tell the entire truth. Not the truth as YOU want to see it.
Quote from Imerica: May 02, 2007, 07:00:59 AM »
Thank you for this thread. Everything in it. I'd rather be disagreed with than have my family or myself disrespected.
If you've read my responses to the letter about Farrakhan and Sharpton, I call them dispicable men when it comes to their so called civil rights activism. I did say that I respected the fact that Sharpton and Jackson helped blacks recieve jobs...that's on a professional level. On a personal level, I think that they could use some time in a Jewish community to see how Jewish people really are without making snap judgements about their culture. On that front, they are part of the problem.
Quote from Imerica: June 09, 2007, 11:51:56 AM » to Allen T.
What boggles the mind (well, at least mine) ... is that every point I make against evil black culture goes unrecognized, then I'm accused of standing with them. I understand that most of you here only know and have only witnessed the bad in the black community. I'm not slighting you on that. But what I will say is that even with my knowledge of the evils in black culture, if I don't remain positive that "A Change Is Gonna Come" (Sam Cooke), I'll be just like those evil blacks who don't want anything for their lives. And I won't expose my children nor myself to that. Sorry.
Quote from Imerica: to CJDJune 09, 2007, 01:24:58 PM »
Now YOU're misquoting me. I never told anyone here to ignore what evil blacks do. I've actually said over and over again that I don't appreciate evil blacks EITHER. And I made no excuses for them being the way they are. NONE.
Quote from Imerica:June 09, 2007, 01:47:47 PM »
I never told anyone here to ignore evil blacks...nor did I say that you shouldn't criticize them. That would make me a hypocrite because I am against them and I say it here. What I DID say, and perhaps you got it mixed up, was that eventhough I know there are evil blacks in our culture, my time is spent raising my children NOT to be like them. If I focused on the evils of the black community all of the time, I'd never get anything positive done in my own home.
I'm in agreement with you here who don't like evil black people...I've said that over and over and over...... again.
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Erica, do you defend the immoral behaviour of some Blacks?
Quote from: newman on Today at 01:16:24 AM
Quote from: Erica on Today at 12:58:57 AM
So you're saying its perfectly okay to say "YOU" people, eventhough I may not be the person you're referring to? High percentages don't matter now. We've already established that I'm not part of the 'grand number' of evil blacks in America but why must you call them 'MY" people if I don't represent anything they're doing? Do you understand? Do you think that's fair? Why not call them out on their own?
Because if you are going to allign yourself with and defend them, folks are going to say to you 'your people'.
If you attack the majority of blacks consistantly, people won't associate you with them. Your problem is that you only attack TNB sometimes and defend it the rest of the time.
Imerica's quote... May 30, 2007, 07:22:02 PM
...However I have admitted that the black community has a problem that makes it hard for people to assimilate around every one of us.
May 30, 2007, 07:55:30 PM
I can't express this strongly enough... for everyone else... I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THE BLACK CULTURE THAT ISN'T GOOD. I AM NOT BLIND, STUPID, OR EVIL. Just because I'm not fighting fire with fire, like some of you, it dosen't mean I'm not fighting in other ways. You think people who speak of peace and finding alternative routes to take when fighting the good fight against the bad people are evil. Great. Whatever. But I assure you that me teaching my children right from wrong will save you a lot of grief in the long run. Because if I nor their dad wasn't present in their lives they would/could very well turn out like those in the black community you hate.
Quote from: ItalianZionist on June 02, 2007, 11:30:18 PM
You're right the jews shouldn't be happy about the Holocaust, just as you should not be happy about your ancestor's suffering. But more AfroAmericans should realize that they did increase their standard of living by coming here and stop acting as if they are suffering just as badly as their ancestors did.
Response from Imerica: June 02, 2007, 11:32:38 PM »
I agree that the slave mentality needs to stop and has needed to be stopped a long time ago... people who were born free shouldn't act like they're still in chains.
Quote from Imerica: June 03, 2007, 03:23:26 PM »
To cjd...
And the black youth of today DO need to learn the truth..that blacks did sell other blacks into slavery but they also need to know what happened during the trip to America and what happened once they arrived to America. If you want to tell the truth...tell the entire truth. Not the truth as YOU want to see it.
Quote from Imerica: May 02, 2007, 07:00:59 AM »
Thank you for this thread. Everything in it. I'd rather be disagreed with than have my family or myself disrespected.
If you've read my responses to the letter about Farrakhan and Sharpton, I call them dispicable men when it comes to their so called civil rights activism. I did say that I respected the fact that Sharpton and Jackson helped blacks recieve jobs...that's on a professional level. On a personal level, I think that they could use some time in a Jewish community to see how Jewish people really are without making snap judgements about their culture. On that front, they are part of the problem.
Quote from Imerica: June 09, 2007, 11:51:56 AM » to Allen T.
What boggles the mind (well, at least mine) ... is that every point I make against evil black culture goes unrecognized, then I'm accused of standing with them. I understand that most of you here only know and have only witnessed the bad in the black community. I'm not slighting you on that. But what I will say is that even with my knowledge of the evils in black culture, if I don't remain positive that "A Change Is Gonna Come" (Sam Cooke), I'll be just like those evil blacks who don't want anything for their lives. And I won't expose my children nor myself to that. Sorry.
Quote from Imerica: to CJDJune 09, 2007, 01:24:58 PM »
Now YOU're misquoting me. I never told anyone here to ignore what evil blacks do. I've actually said over and over again that I don't appreciate evil blacks EITHER. And I made no excuses for them being the way they are. NONE.
Quote from Imerica:June 09, 2007, 01:47:47 PM »
I never told anyone here to ignore evil blacks...nor did I say that you shouldn't criticize them. That would make me a hypocrite because I am against them and I say it here. What I DID say, and perhaps you got it mixed up, was that eventhough I know there are evil blacks in our culture, my time is spent raising my children NOT to be like them. If I focused on the evils of the black community all of the time, I'd never get anything positive done in my own home.
I'm in agreement with you here who don't like evil black people...I've said that over and over and over...... again.
Ok :)
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Thanks Sarah...and to the rest of you...
More "Erica is against Evil Blacks" Quotes:June 09, 2007, 07:52:01 PM »
Yes, I'm against Affirmative Action because its turned into this monster that can't be controlled. The problem with it isn't that it exists, its the way in which our country allows it to exist. The fact that some blacks and women can pull the AA card when they want a job or placement in a school.
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Quote from: newman on June 22, 2007, 07:32:52 AM
Newman:
I don't want to hurt the feelings of nice blacks with enough white blood or culural indoctrination to make them civilised, but I agree with you two guys. Segregation is the only answer.schvartzas can't be happy in their situation. It's like putting a C grade average kid in the mensa class.... it doesn't lift them up but makes them feel inferior and then resentful and mal adjusted. As humans, blacks need self determination in their own natural environment without competition from a culture that they are unsuited for. I do not include well adjusted law abiding middle class schvartzas in this....but certainly the ghetto criminals.
Imerica:
Ghetto is a mindset where it use to be just 'where you live'. Ignorance is what's eating the black community up.
More Imerica:
I don't think I'm qualified to tell people where they belong unless they've comitted some monumental wrong...for instance murdered, raped, beaten ANYONE. They belong under the jail..yes this includes blacks who kill each other because they have nothing better to do (which is a cop out). I don't think that people who like rap should be separated from the rest of the black community just because they like a different genre of music. There are some people who like rap who dont' participate in the evils of it. As for the aborigines, I like seeing or reading about their culture and how they are constantly evolving, however slowly in Australia. They should be free to do as they please because its part of their cultural make-up. I could offer the Amish people of America who take on the lives of the Quakers of yesteryear. If you're not hurting anyone, you should be left alone.
May 02, 2007, 08:39:53 AM »
I know what the problem is. Yes, statistically, blacks commit more crimes but I tend not to think about the bad things in the black community. That may make you angry but if I thought about the bad in the world ALL of the time, I'd get nothing done. I'd bite my nails waiting for the other shoe to drop. I can't afford to do that when I have a family to raise. I'm preparing my girls for the bad things in the community/society as a whole as well as the good things. And believe it or not, there is more than just 'bad' going on in the black community. Did you know that the black culture, just like it has a dark side,with evil people also has a good side, with good people? That those of us who don't follow the gangster mentality actually have a way of making the good in us shine?
May 08, 2007, 11:16:17 PM » Quote
By the way, what I'm rejecting of the black culture is the violence and stereotypes. I don't and won't reject the good that's represented in the black community/culture. That part, I'll treasure for the rest of my life. However I keep the bad things that happen in the black community in my mind to use it as a template of how not to raise my girls.
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I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
I concur.
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I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
I concur.
Poor babies... :( Someone doesn't agree with you so you open up a thread about them. And I just proved that even by posting EVERY post I ever made against evil people, no one (accept Daniel and Sarah, so far) reads it.
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I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
I concur.
Poor babies... :( Someone doesn't agree with you so you open up a thread about them. And I just proved that even by posting EVERY post I ever made against evil people, no one (accept Daniel and Sarah, so far) reads it.
Oh, I read what you posted. I didn't see anything in there but mild statements, oooh you condemn Sharpton and Farrakhan, BIG DEAL. You did say this though "I'm in agreement with you here who don't like evil black people...I've said that over and over and over...... again."
See the problem is, you can't just say that you are in agreement with those of us who don't like evil black people, because you rarely ever seem to agree with us on what an evil black person is. Aside from the obvious ones like rapists and murderers, you DON'T agree with us on who the evil black people are. Just SAYING that you're in agreement with us doesn't mean that you actually are. Nothing newman said is incorrect. 99% of the time you defend black people and that seems to be your main purpose here.
I admit though some of the things you say are good, such as being against affirmative action, evil black leaders, slave mentality, the mentality of entitlement. That's a good start and I have to give you credit for those things, but of course JTF takes it much further than and it seems that you will never understand, sympathize with, or be concerned with our concern with evil black culture in general. That's where JTF differs with Erica.
newman is right about your deflections, mis-characterizations, false analogies, and general lack of understanding of some of the basic concepts that we espouse here at JTF.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
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I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
I concur.
Poor babies... :( Someone doesn't agree with you so you open up a thread about them. And I just proved that even by posting EVERY post I ever made against evil people, no one (accept Daniel and Sarah, so far) reads it.
Oh, I read what you posted. I didn't see anything in there but mild statements, oooh you condemn Sharpton and Farrakhan, BIG DEAL. You did say this though "I'm in agreement with you here who don't like evil black people...I've said that over and over and over...... again."
See the problem is, you can't just say that you are in agreement with those of us who don't like evil black people, because you rarely ever seem to agree with us on what an evil black person is. Aside from the obvious ones like rapists and murderers, you DON'T agree with us on who the evil black people are. Just SAYING that you're in agreement with us doesn't mean that you actually are. Nothing newman said is incorrect. 99% of the time you defend black people and that seems to be your main purpose here.
I admit though some of the things you say are good, such as being against affirmative action, evil black leaders, slave mentality, the mentality of entitlement. That's a good start and I have to give you credit for those things, but of course JTF takes it much further than and it seems that you will never understand, sympathize with, or be concerned with our concern with evil black culture in general. That's where JTF differs with Erica.
newman is right about your deflections, mis-characterizations, false analogies, and general lack of understanding of some of the basic concepts that we espouse here at JTF.
So I have to be this angry, militant person to be a true member of this forum? I have to agree with EVERYTHING you say? I have to be bitter at every turn? My posting what I posted meant nothing...especially but not limited to the statement I made about Sharpton and jackson..who people here though I was related to or LOVED half to death because I'm black just like they are. I'm still going to raise my girls not to be like the evil people I know of and that are represented in the statistics. And you'll thank me for it.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let God take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
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Poor babies... :( Someone doesn't agree with you so you open up a thread about them. And I just proved that even by posting EVERY post I ever made against evil people, no one (accept Daniel and Sarah, so far) reads it.
Erica not that I agree with half you write cause I don't, but you have a vaild point. Its called the band wagon people jump on. Instead of just taking this to the admin in PMs everyone has to have their say.
But it is their forum they can do as they want. ::)
Plus you have over 800 posts surely you have had your say, and bound to ruffle a few PC feathers.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
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Poor babies... :( Someone doesn't agree with you so you open up a thread about them. And I just proved that even by posting EVERY post I ever made against evil people, no one (accept Daniel and Sarah, so far) reads it.
Erica not that I agree with half you write cause I don't, but you have a vaild point. Its called the band wagon people jump on. Instead of just taking this to the admin in PMs everyone has to have their say.
But it is their forum they can do as they want. ::)
Plus you have over 800 posts surely you have had your say, and bound to ruffle a few PC feathers.
I appreciate that post Infidel...
I have no problem with people disagreeing with what I say at all... I have a problem with people insisting that I feel a certain way when I don't or wanting me to jump on that bandwagon you spoke of and start speaking in unison, the words they speak. Disagree all you want, but don't tell me that I don't hate evil, lazy black people when I've said it hundreds of times before.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
I've said that too, Scrabin. That's why I don't like being referred to or even spoken in the same sentence as "People like ERica believe" when I don't subscribe to negativity in the black community. Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves... some aren't.
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Don't worry about what they think ;)
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Don't worry about what they think ;)
I wish I came to this forum with that confidence. Better late than never, I guess. :)
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
I've said that too, Scrabin. That's why I don't like being referred to or even spoken in the same sentence as "People like ERica believe" when I don't subscribe to negativity in the black community. Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves... some aren't.
Erica - what do you mean Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves? That doesn't make sense to me.
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For every post like the pones she's quoted here, you'll find 50 where she's doing her usual tricks.
Our objection is not in somebody disagreeing with an issue. Our objections are.....
1/ somebody supporting evil
2/ somebody being in denial about evil
3/ the forum being sidetracked because somebody (constantly);
a) doesn't understand a question.
b) answers 'straw' questions
c) has no understanding of what hypothetical scenarios are.
d) has no understanding of what metaphors are.
e) cannot separate group versus individual in discussion
f) cannot understand the difference between generalisat based on facts and evidence versus prejudice.
g) misreads other posts
h) diverts the thread by forcing other posters to explain her miscomprehension.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
I've said that too, Scrabin. That's why I don't like being referred to or even spoken in the same sentence as "People like ERica believe" when I don't subscribe to negativity in the black community. Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves... some aren't.
Erica - what do you mean Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves? That doesn't make sense to me.
Why not, its the same thing you guys have been saying since I've been here. After all the statistics dictate that MOST BLACKS commit more crimes than whites. RIGHT? Damn, make up your mind. What in the hell do you want me to say? I MEANT that most blacks are acting like they're still in bondage and the white man is lording over them. THAT'S what I meant. They are too ignorant to understand that they have the power to be better than they are and don't take the chance to see.
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For every post like the pones she's quoted here, you'll find 50 where she's doing her usual tricks.
Our objection is not in somebody sisagreeing with an issue. Our objections are.....
1/ somebody supporting evil
2/ somebody being in denial about evil
3/ the forum being sidetracked because somebody (constantly);
a) doesn't understand a question.
b) answers 'straw' questions
c) has no understanding of what hypothetical scenarios are.
d) has no understanding of what metaphors are.
e) cannot separate group versus individual in discussion
f) cannot understand the difference between generalisat based on facts and evidence versus prejudice.
g) misreads other posts
h) diverts the thread by forcing other posters to explain her miscomprehension.
You're stupid, newman...and its not your fault. ::)
I didn't support anyone evil, newman. Name the people...PLEASE!!!
You constantly want me to echo everything you're saying but I'm not going to do it because I'm not EVIL like you are.
I answered your dumb-ass hypothetical questions after I explained myself in defense of myself. I SAID YES or NO. to those questions. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong...and speaking of...I ACTUALLY TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE RIGHT!!! WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?
ALSO since we're talking about generalizing...I gave you a f'ing definition of what you and Ze'ev consider NON generalizing... the word WHOLE means everything (and in this case) EVERYONE in sight. Not Some, like you'd like to think. It seems to me that YOU need a dictionary.
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
I've said that too, Scrabin. That's why I don't like being referred to or even spoken in the same sentence as "People like ERica believe" when I don't subscribe to negativity in the black community. Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves... some aren't.
Erica - what do you mean Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves? That doesn't make sense to me.
Why not, its the same thing you guys have been saying since I've been here. After all the statistics dictate that MOST BLACKS commit more crimes than whites. RIGHT? Damn, make up your mind. What in the hell do you want me to say? I MEANT that most blacks are acting like they're still in bondage and the white man is lording over them. THAT'S what I meant. They are too ignorant to understand that they have the power to be better than they are and don't take the chance to see.
I can't believe you just said that. :o
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
Damn you. I never blamed anyone for my problems and never asked you to do ANYTHING for me, Scrabin. I HATE people like that, those who don't take responsibility for their actions or credit for their failures. But you don't want to see me saying that. You want me to be a stupid black person saying "OH, No black person has ever done anythign to hurt you..." I don't agree with that.
And the unreasonable person, me, you're speaking of has a differing opinion on how to tackle the evil blacks in America..I don't have to go throughout life wishing everyone who is evil would die...I'll let G-d take care of that. But I'll still hate them the same.
It's true. I never heard you speak of blaming whites. My point is, however, that the idea of blaming others for one's own problems is a big theme in the black community.
Do all blacks blame others and whine and complain all day long? No, but MANY do.
I've said that too, Scrabin. That's why I don't like being referred to or even spoken in the same sentence as "People like ERica believe" when I don't subscribe to negativity in the black community. Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves... some aren't.
Erica - what do you mean Yes MOST blacks are acting like slaves? That doesn't make sense to me.
Why not, its the same thing you guys have been saying since I've been here. After all the statistics dictate that MOST BLACKS commit more crimes than whites. RIGHT? Damn, make up your mind. What in the hell do you want me to say? I MEANT that most blacks are acting like they're still in bondage and the white man is lording over them. THAT'S what I meant. They are too ignorant to understand that they have the power to be better than they are and don't take the chance to see.
I can't believe you just said that. :o
You can't believe I just said WHAT? I've been saying this sh't ALL of the time I've been here...but you guys pick and choose the things you want to bash me on CONSTANTLY! READ READ READ. I DO hate evil black people...I always have and always will.... Damn.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
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Were all the slaves evil people?
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
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Were all the slaves evil people?
DAMN, bullcat. I'm not saying that slaves are evil people. NO Slave was evil. What I'm saying is that evil blacks use the salve mentality as if the white man is responsible for the way they are NOW as an excuse not to try. The slaves didn't ask to be brought here and the white man THEN WERE the source of all of their problems. Since blacks have been free, there has been NO reason to act like or adopt the slave mentality...because they are FREE now. Do you understand now?
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
No.
We were explaining "as-a-whole" in the context of a discussion about group behaviour and the concept of generalisation.
The literal meaning of the single word "whole" was never in dispute.
Your above post is proof of the very deflection you stand accused of.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
newman and Ze'ev I agree with the points your trying to make however have to say this I think Erica agrees with many of the points we make here on the forum. She came to JTF expecting to find a group of people that she had no use for and would be in total disagreement with. I think we surprised her a bit. I also have to say many of her positions agreeing with us surprised me also. As far as her defending black society I can see her point. White and Black folks look at issues differently it just the way it is. So while she may agree with us about evil blacks part of her makes her look at the behavior in a light other then the average white person would.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
See, you're doing it again, you're concentrating on a single word and making a ridiculous argument when you know EXACTLY what me and newman mean. We've repeated what we mean OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Do you know the expression, "AS A WHOLE"? Have you ever heard the expression, AS A WHOLE? Do you say it yourself?
Say someone is speaking about a football team and he says "as a whole, they have lots of good players." Now, does that mean he means that EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is a good player?
When someone is talking about his experience, he says "AS A WHOLE, it was a good experience." DOes that mean that EVERY EVENT of the experience was a good experience? No, of course not, it means generally.
I'll point out evil black people that you refused to condemn: people who condone hip-hop culture, homeless people who don't work and who play savage music and dumb down and take the standards of the American people down, welfare mommas who pop out 15 babies and then expect that the government is going to pay for them, etc. etc. etc.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
No.
We were explaining "as-a-whole" in the context of a discussion about group behaviour and the concept of generalisation.
The literal meaning of the single word "whole" was never in dispute.
Your above post is proof of the very deflection you stand accused of.
So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
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Were all the slaves evil people?
DAMN, bullcat. I'm not saying that slaves are evil people. NO Slave was evil. What I'm saying is that evil blacks use the salve mentality as if the white man is responsible for the way they are NOW as an excuse not to try. The slaves didn't ask to be brought here and the white man THEN WERE the source of all of their problems. Since blacks have been free, there has been NO reason to act like or adopt the slave mentality...because they are FREE now. Do you understand now?
See, once again, you're unreasonably supporting black people at any expense. NO SLAVE WAS EVIL? What kind of a statement is that? There is no such thing as any group having NO ONE who is evil. Just another example of how you go out of your way in a silly fashion to defend black people at all costs.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
So you're going to bash me for saying "Damn"? WOW... I surely am NOT the only person to type the word here, especially when people here are talking about muslims using the same word.
You don't like to be proven that you TOO are imperfect, do you? Apparently DAMN is a word that's allowed or it TOO would be censored. Like I said, though..take your own advice...and get off of MY last nerve.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
So you're going to bash me for saying "Damn"? WOW... I surely am NOT the only person to type the word here, especially when people here are talking about muslims using the same word.
You don't like to be proven that you TOO are imperfect, do you? Apparently DAMN is a word that's allowed or it TOO would be censored. Like I said, though..take your own advice...and get off of MY last nerve.
Thanks for the advice now go back to the whining about the poor poor black folk.
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Were all the slaves evil people?
DAMN, bullcat. I'm not saying that slaves are evil people. NO Slave was evil. What I'm saying is that evil blacks use the salve mentality as if the white man is responsible for the way they are NOW as an excuse not to try. The slaves didn't ask to be brought here and the white man THEN WERE the source of all of their problems. Since blacks have been free, there has been NO reason to act like or adopt the slave mentality...because they are FREE now. Do you understand now?
See, once again, you're unreasonably supporting black people at any expense. NO SLAVE WAS EVIL? What kind of a statement is that? There is no such thing as any group having NO ONE who is evil. Just another example of how you go out of your way in a silly fashion to defend black people at all costs.
You're talking about the blacks during slavery who faught back to be free...they weren't evil to me...they were brave. Just like no Jew killed who survived the holocaust or was killed during the catastrophe was evil... they were all brave.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
Shoshana, I've been here since April...saying the same word without a problem,as of yet. When Jeffguy or Yacov tells me to stop saying the 'D' word, I will. I knew exactly what you were implying when you typed out %@#$... .
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
Shoshana, I've been here since April...saying the same word without a problem,as of yet. When Jeffguy or Yacov tells me to stop saying the 'D' word, I will. I knew exactly what you were implying when you typed out %@#$... .
I thought I had read somewhere on here that cussing wasn't allowed- if not then OPPS, if so then it was simply a friendly reminder. No wonder people here have such issues with you.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
See, you're doing it again, you're concentrating on a single word and making a ridiculous argument when you know EXACTLY what me and newman mean. We've repeated what we mean OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Do you know the expression, "AS A WHOLE"? Have you ever heard the expression, AS A WHOLE? Do you say it yourself?
Say someone is speaking about a football team and he says "as a whole, they have lots of good players." Now, does that mean he means that EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is a good player?
When someone is talking about his experience, he says "AS A WHOLE, it was a good experience." DOes that mean that EVERY EVENT of the experience was a good experience? No, of course not, it means generally.
I'll point out evil black people that you refused to condemn: people who condone hip-hop culture, homeless people who don't work and who play savage music and dumb down and take the standards of the American people down, welfare mommas who pop out 15 babies and then expect that the government is going to pay for them, etc. etc. etc.
Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
So you're going to bash me for saying "Damn"? WOW... I surely am NOT the only person to type the word here, especially when people here are talking about muslims using the same word.
You don't like to be proven that you TOO are imperfect, do you? Apparently DAMN is a word that's allowed or it TOO would be censored. Like I said, though..take your own advice...and get off of MY last nerve.
Thanks for the advice now go back to the whining about the poor poor black folk.
I never whine about poor black folks... but you need to stop whining to me about using the word damn, when you haven't stopped to inform other posters who used the word MANY times.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
I see lots of cussing from you on this thread. I am almost certain there is a rule on here about cussing- correct me if I'm wrong. I've started writing replies and corrected myself when I cursed because I think I read somewhere on here it's not allowed.
Take your own advice, Shoshana...
I've ran into this problem many times while in the city at the movie theater. I usually throw stuff at them( popcorn,candy etc) while telling them to "Shut the %@#$ up!" It always works for me although I'll admit it's an easy way to get into a brawl with the black folk. I don't mind.
I didn't type out the cuss word for that exact reason so you proved nothing. I was simply warning you so you don't get banned if that is infact against the rules here which I'm not sure of.
Boy are you on my last nerve.
Shoshana, I've been here since April...saying the same word without a problem,as of yet. When Jeffguy or Yacov tells me to stop saying the 'D' word, I will. I knew exactly what you were implying when you typed out %@#$... .
I thought I had read somewhere on here that cussing wasn't allowed- if not then OPPS, if so then it was simply a friendly reminder. No wonder people here have such issues with you.
People here have problems with me because I'm not as militant as they are. It seems that you fit the bill though.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
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Were all the slaves evil people?
DAMN, bullcat. I'm not saying that slaves are evil people. NO Slave was evil. What I'm saying is that evil blacks use the salve mentality as if the white man is responsible for the way they are NOW as an excuse not to try. The slaves didn't ask to be brought here and the white man THEN WERE the source of all of their problems. Since blacks have been free, there has been NO reason to act like or adopt the slave mentality...because they are FREE now. Do you understand now?
I appreciate your clarifying what you meant...but really it is just another poor excuse for bad behavior. How many years will it take for evil blacks to get over slavery?
They are a group that seems to go backwards rather then foward...don't you think?
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Hey Erica - I don't mind your use of the word damn - but I had noticed you were cursing a lot in your posts. Now I know you never write out the whole word... but don't let us get to you like that... it is not worth it. ;)
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
See, you're doing it again, you're concentrating on a single word and making a ridiculous argument when you know EXACTLY what me and newman mean. We've repeated what we mean OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Do you know the expression, "AS A WHOLE"? Have you ever heard the expression, AS A WHOLE? Do you say it yourself?
Say someone is speaking about a football team and he says "as a whole, they have lots of good players." Now, does that mean he means that EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is a good player?
When someone is talking about his experience, he says "AS A WHOLE, it was a good experience." DOes that mean that EVERY EVENT of the experience was a good experience? No, of course not, it means generally.
I'll point out evil black people that you refused to condemn: people who condone hip-hop culture, homeless people who don't work and who play savage music and dumb down and take the standards of the American people down, welfare mommas who pop out 15 babies and then expect that the government is going to pay for them, etc. etc. etc.
Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Well the reason I thought you defended those groups of people is because you said that hip-hop is a decent form of music and it isn't evil and you were defending the homeless man with every ounce you had. You said well at least he isn't a gangster and at least he's not a criminal like you were defending him for being homeless and trying to turn homelessness into a positive thing. You also defended him when we said that he represents the negro-fication of white people's standards when you were saying that admiring a homeless man is not worse than admiring a classically trained violinist. That's why it seems like you were defending these things, because you were. I'm only judging you based on what I've seen, of course I don't know you at all, I judge you based on what you say in the other threads. Of course it's easy here to say that you condemn evil behavior, but your posts in other threads have shown otherwise.
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Were all the slaves evil people?
DAMN, bullcat. I'm not saying that slaves are evil people. NO Slave was evil. What I'm saying is that evil blacks use the salve mentality as if the white man is responsible for the way they are NOW as an excuse not to try. The slaves didn't ask to be brought here and the white man THEN WERE the source of all of their problems. Since blacks have been free, there has been NO reason to act like or adopt the slave mentality...because they are FREE now. Do you understand now?
I appreciate your clarifying what you meant...but really it is just another poor excuse for bad behavior. How many years will it take for evil blacks to get over slavery?
They are a group that seems to go backwards rather then foward...don't you think?
Bullcat I'm not excusing them for anything. I'm SAYING that they need to STOP that way of thinking if they want to be appreciated or at the least respected by ANYONE. I always say that they are going backwards instead of going forward, bullcat. I've said that many times here ; which is the reason I made the slavery reference...but I think that you guys think that because I'm black I'm going to automatically jump on the sides of Evil blacks to defend them.
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Hey Erica - I don't mind your use of the word damn - but I had noticed you were cursing a lot in your posts. Now I know you never write out the whole word... but don't let us get to you like that... it is not worth it. ;)
You're right..it isn't worth it to get so angry that your curse even in acronyms, or symbols. When people are beating me down into a corner...my defense mechanism is to curse. But you've never read a post from me in which ebonics was ever typed by me. Cursing is childish (especially when you are so angry that you can't find the words to describe your anger) but ebonics is retarded....meaning that it stops progress.
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Here in AMERICA, newman. (trying not to curse.) NOT HERE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. You're... nevermind.
Showers...GREAT!!!! Homes, just in case these homeless people don't find work...NOT available. Another thing...are there any charities in downtown NY where most of the homeless there are? I know there are none where homeless people in Chicago are.
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Another prime example of deflection:
Ze'ev explains the meaning of the expression " as a whole". (after several painfull, unsuccessful attempts to explain the concepts of generalisation and group versus individual)
Erica counters with the literal meaning of the single word "whole".
All this toing & froing is a diversion. Whether it's typical negro inability to understand anything abstract or delliberate mischief I don't know.
Its NOT a diversion. WHOLE means ENTIRE.
You and Ze'ev were trying to tell me that whole means Some..how in the HELL is that possible? If you ate a whole pie, wouldn't the pie be gone? Which means "NOTHING IS LEFT" ...which also means that you didn't leave any blacks OUT of your generalization. Give me a break.
You HATE it when someone isn't kissing your tukas, don't you. I don't have to agree with your helplessly angry self on EVERY point.
See, you're doing it again, you're concentrating on a single word and making a ridiculous argument when you know EXACTLY what me and newman mean. We've repeated what we mean OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. Do you know the expression, "AS A WHOLE"? Have you ever heard the expression, AS A WHOLE? Do you say it yourself?
Say someone is speaking about a football team and he says "as a whole, they have lots of good players." Now, does that mean he means that EVERY SINGLE PLAYER is a good player?
When someone is talking about his experience, he says "AS A WHOLE, it was a good experience." DOes that mean that EVERY EVENT of the experience was a good experience? No, of course not, it means generally.
I'll point out evil black people that you refused to condemn: people who condone hip-hop culture, homeless people who don't work and who play savage music and dumb down and take the standards of the American people down, welfare mommas who pop out 15 babies and then expect that the government is going to pay for them, etc. etc. etc.
Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Well the reason I thought you defended those groups of people is because you said that hip-hop is a decent form of music and it isn't evil and you were defending the homeless man with every ounce you had. You said well at least he isn't a gangster and at least he's not a criminal like you were defending him for being homeless and trying to turn homelessness into a positive thing. You also defended him when we said that he represents the negro-fication of white people's standards when you were saying that admiring a homeless man is not worse than admiring a classically trained violinist. That's why it seems like you were defending these things, because you were. I'm only judging you based on what I've seen, of course I don't know you at all, I judge you based on what you say in the other threads. Of course it's easy here to say that you condemn evil behavior, but your posts in other threads have shown otherwise.
I clarified that there is a difference between GOOD hip hop, and EVIL hip hop. I even gave examples of good hip hop. I never said hip hop in general is a decent form of music. And I was defending the man playing the bucket and homeless people because they have nowhere to go as of now. I was defending him because he WASN'T a gangster..and I NEVER said homelessness was a good thing. I was saying that he was harmless. At the end of the day, he's not folowing you home or taking your life. He's beating on a bucket. Homelessness sucks. My father and his brothers and sisters were living on the street when they were younger...I can't imagine that being fun at all or SAFE for that matter.
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Also, Mr. Newman... in order for homeless people to collect a check, they have to have a home address. Most homeless people in America aren't in touch with, or have no relatives whose addresses they could use to forward their checks to. How would you combat that, since you pretty much narrowed down the feilds of 'clean clothing' and 'avaliable showers'. What's next for them?
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Also, Mr. Newman... in order for homeless people to collect a check, they have to have a home address. Most homeless people in America aren't in touch with, or have no relatives whose addresses they could use to forward their checks to. How would you combat that, since you pretty much narrowed down the feilds of 'clean clothing' and 'avaliable showers'. What's next for them?
This is precisely the kind of excuse making I was talking about, Erica.
You make an excuse for everything, always an excuse.
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Also, Mr. Newman... in order for homeless people to collect a check, they have to have a home address. Most homeless people in America aren't in touch with, or have no relatives whose addresses they could use to forward their checks to. How would you combat that, since you pretty much narrowed down the feilds of 'clean clothing' and 'avaliable showers'. What's next for them?
This is precisely the kind of excuse making I was talking about, Erica.
You make an excuse for everything, always an excuse.
Yes. The point is that people should never become homeless to begin with. Barring some mental or physical illness, nobody should become homeless, that's evil. Being an evil schvartza who would rather bang on a trash can than do something productive in society is evil. There are many steps that type of person could have taken in order to prevent himself from becoming homeless. But he preferred to just schlep around all day and mooch money from gullible white people rather than do something productive. That's evil in my book. If everyone did that we would be living in a G-d forsaken hellhole like Africa.
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Also, Mr. Newman... in order for homeless people to collect a check, they have to have a home address. Most homeless people in America aren't in touch with, or have no relatives whose addresses they could use to forward their checks to. How would you combat that, since you pretty much narrowed down the feilds of 'clean clothing' and 'avaliable showers'. What's next for them?
This is precisely the kind of excuse making I was talking about, Erica.
You make an excuse for everything, always an excuse.
You're constantly saying I'm making up excuses...tell me, do you have any solutions to homelessness, besides a homeless person just 'going out and getting a job'? They are homeless, what else can they do to get out from under, Ze'ev? Maybe you have the answer since you know everything. I'm defending the innocent, not the evil. Homeless people (those who don't steal to get food, rob to live or kill- the evil homeless people that is.) aren't evil.
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...tell me, do you have any solutions to homelessness, besides a homeless person just 'going out and getting a job'? They are homeless, what else can they do to get out from under, Ze'ev? Maybe you have the answer since you know everything. I'm defending the innocent, not the evil. Homeless people (those who don't steal to get food, rob to live or kill- the evil homeless people that is.) aren't evil.
Many of these people are homeless because its easy to be homeless (in certain ways), and because they're lazy. (Schizophrenic and other mentally ill people notwithstanding). One can see more homeless people in affluent areas (Manhattan, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, etc.) because there's money to be made in handouts, soup kitchens are available, etc.
These kinds of people have no desire or reason to change.
Now, if panhandling became illegal (and strictly enforced), we'd see a drastic reduction in homeless people.
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Many of the homeless blacks came from down south. They came because they thought New York was the "place to be." They should have just stayed down there. Why did they have to come up here to start trouble. They only made it worse for themselves coming up here, and would have been better off down south.
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These kinds of people have no desire or reason to change.
Now, if panhandling became illegal (and strictly enforced), we'd see a drastic reduction in homeless people.
I'm with you.
It's at the stage you can't sit in a public space to drink a coffeee or eat a sandwich without being pestered by the bums, jungle jumpers and other losers.
I've been lobbying every politician in my state to outlaw panhandling but they're too gutless and week.
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Here, whenever I've heard the term "as a whole" its always meant 'in its entirety." NEVER some.
Hanging around with ignorant blacks, no doubt.
And I want to clarify something because I don't feel like digging up any more things to prove you wrong about what I support or don't support. I've said that evil hip hop culture is EVIL from the start as well...I've even gone so far as to post some GOOD rap videos to prove that I don't condone the evil part of hip hop. SECOND... Homeless people don't work because of the way people like you see them, whether they're black, white, veterans of the Korean War, limbless or whatever. Dirty clothes don't equal GREAT paying jobs, Ze'ev. Would YOU hire a homeless person who can't afford a business suit and presentable shoes ? The way some of you talk about the way Muslim men smell, its doubtfull that you would. The only thing SOME homeless people can do is play music in the subway. But you look at them as the problem with hip hop culture. ::) ALSO I HAVE Spoken out against the evil black culture which dictates that black women who can't afford to have children shouldn't. I've even spoke on black people who recieve section 8 and don't pay their bills or take advantage of the system...so don't DARE tell me what you think I support or DON'T support. You don't know me at all...most of this is apparently because you never bothered to read the responses to these different attrocities I posted.)
Making excuses again.
There are countless showers available for the homeless at any number of charities across NYC. They were detailed in a book about homelessness on the Oprah show.
Secondly, clean, neat clothes suitable for entry level jobs are available for less than the price of a bottle of booze or FREE from many charities.
Also, Mr. Newman... in order for homeless people to collect a check, they have to have a home address. Most homeless people in America aren't in touch with, or have no relatives whose addresses they could use to forward their checks to. How would you combat that, since you pretty much narrowed down the feilds of 'clean clothing' and 'avaliable showers'. What's next for them?
This is precisely the kind of excuse making I was talking about, Erica.
You make an excuse for everything, always an excuse.
Yes. The point is that people should never become homeless to begin with. Barring some mental or physical illness, nobody should become homeless, that's evil. Being an evil schvartza who would rather bang on a trash can than do something productive in society is evil. There are many steps that type of person could have taken in order to prevent himself from becoming homeless. But he preferred to just schlep around all day and mooch money from gullible white people rather than do something productive. That's evil in my book. If everyone did that we would be living in a G-d forsaken hellhole like Africa.
According to the statistics, homeless blacks outnumber homeless whites considerably. With that knowledge, is it even concievable that no one in a situation where they're homeless loves that 'lifestyle'? Poverty, living in public housing, mooching off a relative because you don't want to pay bills or eat food that YOU pay for; completely solvable problems. There are many reasons for homelessness. Some homelessness is started by people who don't save the money they make from working previous jobs and file for bankrupcy; some homelessness begins when spousal or domestic abuse insues and the mother has to get out of the situation, taking her kids with her most times to get away from the situation; mental illness, most often; drug users...and not to mention the vets of the Korean war I mentioned. They were misplaced and disrespected right after they came back home to an unappreciative America. If you want to blame homelessness on someone, blame it on the hospital politicians who won't accept the homeless with schitzophrenia because they don't have medical insurance...Blame a society who allows the spousal or domestic abuser to exit jail and to reinter life with his wife and kids... blame society 'as a whole' for walking over those who need help in the streets...screaming "GET A JOB!!!"
You're right, homelessness shouldn't be happening...the concept is evil...but a lot of the homeless people aren't evil.
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...tell me, do you have any solutions to homelessness, besides a homeless person just 'going out and getting a job'? They are homeless, what else can they do to get out from under, Ze'ev? Maybe you have the answer since you know everything. I'm defending the innocent, not the evil. Homeless people (those who don't steal to get food, rob to live or kill- the evil homeless people that is.) aren't evil.
Many of these people are homeless because its easy to be homeless (in certain ways), and because they're lazy. (Schizophrenic and other mentally ill people notwithstanding). One can see more homeless people in affluent areas (Manhattan, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, etc.) because there's money to be made in handouts, soup kitchens are available, etc.
These kinds of people have no desire or reason to change.
Now, if panhandling became illegal (and strictly enforced), we'd see a drastic reduction in homeless people.
If the evil homeless people who are lazy, did for themselves instead of looking for others to do for them, would get off of their behinds and actually go back home where most of them didn't have to leave, homelessness would drastically shrink in America. That still leaves the mentally ill, abused women and children, run-aways from sexually abusive situations, and misplaced veterans. What do we do with/for them?
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Blaming 'society' now. Another way way of saying 'blame whitey' since it is whites who build and hold society together.
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These kinds of people have no desire or reason to change.
Now, if panhandling became illegal (and strictly enforced), we'd see a drastic reduction in homeless people.
I'm with you.
It's at the stage you can't sit in a public space to drink a coffeee or eat a sandwich without being pestered by the bums, jungle jumpers and other losers.
I've been lobbying every politician in my state to outlaw panhandling but they're too gutless and week.
This will sound really cold but I'll give to a schitzophrenic person, or an amputee before I give anything to someone being beligerent and disrespectful...with a working brain and limbs.
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Blaming 'society' now. Another way way of saying 'blame whitey' since it is whites who build and hold society together.
I thought "as a whole' meant 'not everyone'. I wasn't talking about specifically white people but everyone in society. Everyone holds society together. Every law abiding citizen of our country holds it together and every one in our country has a responsibility to uphold.
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
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Blaming 'society' now. Another way way of saying 'blame whitey' since it is whites who build and hold society together.
I thought "as a whole' meant 'not everyone'. I wasn't talking about specifically white people but everyone in society. Everyone holds society together. Every law abiding citizen of our country holds it together and every one in our country has a responsibility to uphold.
The vast majority of the black community is a drain and a cancer on society. The vast majority of the white community are positive contributors to it. So the 'society' you speak of blaming is by definition WHITE.
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
Shoshana, totally unrelated to how we feel about each other, I agree wholeheartedly with you on this subject.
I've seen homeless men, black and white, carrying on conversations as if they were college professors and often wondered 'why in the HELL are they out on the street?" I've seen schitzophrenics, people in wheelchairs from losing limbs, as well as a severly burned (forgive the discription) man who carried a sign around the bus stop I use to stand at in high school. Those are the people I really feel sorry for because they're usually kicked to the side like trash because no landlord wants to have his/her building associated with 'people like that'. Now those I don't have sympathy for are the first homeless people I mentioned, and those who actually have homes to go to but are guilting the public out of their money just because being homeless seems to be 'a fad'. If you can carry on an intelligent conversation and not skip a beat, somewhere there is a JOB waiting on you. If you have working limbs and your mind is clear, somewhere there is a JOB waiting for you.
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Blaming 'society' now. Another way way of saying 'blame whitey' since it is whites who build and hold society together.
I thought "as a whole' meant 'not everyone'. I wasn't talking about specifically white people but everyone in society. Everyone holds society together. Every law abiding citizen of our country holds it together and every one in our country has a responsibility to uphold.
The vast majority of the black community is a drain and a cancer on society. The vast majority of the white community are positive contributors to it. So the 'society' you speak of blaming is by definition WHITE.
Newman, I'm tired of this black and white stuff already. I don't care at this moment what color anyone is. We're talking about people in general who can help out the situation. The affluent and the middle class.
Oh, forget it. I'm going to start having my girls give part of their allowances to homeless shelters. Perhaps they'll grow up knowing that its okay to help people who can't help themselves right now...but every little bit helps no matter who it comes from.
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For every post like the pones she's quoted here, you'll find 50 where she's doing her usual tricks.
Our objection is not in somebody disagreeing with an issue. Our objections are.....
1/ somebody supporting evil
2/ somebody being in denial about evil
3/ the forum being sidetracked because somebody (constantly);
a) doesn't understand a question.
b) answers 'straw' questions
c) has no understanding of what hypothetical scenarios are.
d) has no understanding of what metaphors are.
e) cannot separate group versus individual in discussion
f) cannot understand the difference between generalisat based on facts and evidence versus prejudice.
g) misreads other posts
h) diverts the thread by forcing other posters to explain her miscomprehension.
Sounds to me like a witch hunt.
Erica would you mind too much if you stand on that pile of wood and we will burn you alive ::)
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...tell me, do you have any solutions to homelessness, besides a homeless person just 'going out and getting a job'? They are homeless, what else can they do to get out from under, Ze'ev? Maybe you have the answer since you know everything. I'm defending the innocent, not the evil. Homeless people (those who don't steal to get food, rob to live or kill- the evil homeless people that is.) aren't evil.
Many of these people are homeless because its easy to be homeless (in certain ways), and because they're lazy. (Schizophrenic and other mentally ill people notwithstanding). One can see more homeless people in affluent areas (Manhattan, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, etc.) because there's money to be made in handouts, soup kitchens are available, etc.
These kinds of people have no desire or reason to change.
Now, if panhandling became illegal (and strictly enforced), we'd see a drastic reduction in homeless people.
great post - very true
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
When has Erica ever said anything like this? She's always said the exact opposite of this. But I guess because she's black, she must fit into this mold.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
See Erica - if anyone has a right to say...I can't do this - help me - it's Shoshana. She didn't despite just cause. That is our point. It is nothing against you personally. My hat is off to her for all she has accomplished. Her son is one lucky little boy.
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
See Erica - if anyone has a right to say...I can't do this - help me - it's Shoshana. She didn't despite just cause. That is our point. It is nothing against you personally. My hat is off to her for all she has accomplished. Her son is one lucky little boy.
It's called southern courage and pride..............
......... as opposed to "Gimme mah welfare, honkey. It be mah right to git sompin' fo nuttini, mmmm hmmm" schvartza mentallity.
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
See Erica - if anyone has a right to say...I can't do this - help me - it's Shoshana. She didn't despite just cause. That is our point. It is nothing against you personally. My hat is off to her for all she has accomplished. Her son is one lucky little boy.
I read that bullcat and I agree with what you're saying and shoshana also. After my mom and dad divorced we were still living in the projects. She never once thought about giving up on raising us or taking us out in the street. We survived. So I've seen and know that strength.
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Erica- I see where you are coming from. I'm not a bleeding heart by any means but I have saw people who are homeless through no real fault of their own- simply tough times. I give to the homeless anytime I can. I am a divorced single mom of a very disabled kiddo- I work 2 jobs both of which I bring my little guy in his wheelchair hooked up to all his machines with me to. I am certainly "working poor" but I have never been on welfare and hope and would work to never be. My point is that alot of the homeless or folks who live off welfare do so out of choice. If you are physically able to work you should be working- period. I don't care if you make minimum wage, it's hard I understand and I also know that for some people being on welfare sitting at home they make more than they would working a minimum wage job but come on, have some self respect.
I certainly would disagree with most people on his board in regards these issues I'm sure.
I truly feel sorry for people who are homeless and I'm sure you are correct that it's hard to even begin to get a job in that situation.
I remember when I left my ex husband without a dime in my pocket, with no car, the clothes on our backs. But yet somehow I did ok and I went to work within days. If these people wanted to they could.
See Erica - if anyone has a right to say...I can't do this - help me - it's Shoshana. She didn't despite just cause. That is our point. It is nothing against you personally. My hat is off to her for all she has accomplished. Her son is one lucky little boy.
It's called southern courage and pride..............
......... as opposed to "Gimme mah welfare, honkey. It be mah right to git sompin' fo nuttini, mmmm hmmm" schvartza mentallity.
That is the attitude of a lot of blacks on welfare. Some don't need it at all because they're able bodied. I don't know about the mmm hmmm factor (because you always have to add that bit just to sting a little, don't you?) Some blacks are doing it without having to use ebonics or stupid sounds. It dosen't make them any less sick though.
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i know what erica is doing now...praying in shul... :P
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
When has Erica ever said anything like this? She's always said the exact opposite of this. But I guess because she's black, she must fit into this mold.
Erica may not be a typical black, but she'll use every excuse in the book to cover up for black people and their behavior.
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i know what erica is doing now...pray in shul... :P
What does that mean?
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Nearly all blacks are like Erica...they blame others for their problems and want others to do everything for them. This will never change as long as blacks refuse responsibility for their actions and behavior.
Until blacks realize that change must come from within, things will never change.
You can't polish a turd, and its not likely to polish itself. So, what can you do?
"One cannot reason with unreasonable people." Rabbi Meir Kahane
When has Erica ever said anything like this? She's always said the exact opposite of this. But I guess because she's black, she must fit into this mold.
Erica may not be a typical black, but she'll use every excuse in the book to cover up for black people and their behavior.
What did I cover up for, man? WHat did I excuse? Make it clear.
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i know what erica is doing now...pray in shul... :P
What does that mean?
I was being sarcastic, Erica..you're a black American and not Jewish. Today is the Jewish new year..so i made a joke that you were praying at the synogogue...
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I think part of the issue with so many violent crimes and the whole affirmative action, special colleges for blacks, and the whole PC stuff is somewhat our fault in a way. We were the ones who babied the negros after slavery and segregation was abolished. We were in this "We feel guilty" phase and started compensating them. The leftists just kept that alive and still bring it up. As a result, I think many negros use it as a safety net to try and make excuses for their own failings. When a negro is caught stealing a tv or what not, they feel they are doing it out of aggression because of the racist 'white man'. When they end up getting a 5-10 year sentence for killing someone or what not, it's because "their black". When someone won't hire them at a job because they aren't qualified, it's racism.
The issue here is the society we live in is obsessed with telling the whites in this country "The black man suffered from slavery, you are evil and you will feel guilty for the rest of your life". It's been programmed into the white mans mind that one must feel sensitive or treat a negro differently/special because we associate them with their ancestors who went through slavery.
The truth is, there is a very real problem with black on black crime. There is a bias in the media that the negro is not capable of being racist and they use violence purely as aggression for their past. The negro is frustrated because whitey held him down. Hate crimes are foreign to the negro, they simply don't exist. On the other hand, if it's whitey beating up a negro, it's racism. These are the typical excuses we are fed in society.
There is no excuse for the savage behavior of negros in America. We are led to believe this is out of aggression and frustration, but then one can look to Africa and it seems more of a tribal/cutural thing that is accepted. Instead we have idiots like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton parading around blaming everything else except the negro. Why can't negros take responsibility for their own problems?
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I think part of the issue with so many violent crimes and the whole affirmative action, special colleges for blacks, and the whole PC stuff is somewhat our fault in a way. We were the ones who babied the negros after slavery and segregation was abolished. We were in this "We feel guilty" phase and started compensating them. The leftists just kept that alive and still bring it up. As a result, I think many negros use it as a safety net to try and make excuses for their own failings. When a negro is caught stealing a tv or what not, they feel they are doing it out of aggression because of the racist 'white man'. When they end up getting a 5-10 year sentence for killing someone or what not, it's because "their black". When someone won't hire them at a job because they aren't qualified, it's racism.
The issue here is the society we live in is obsessed with telling the whites in this country "The black man suffered from slavery, you are evil and you will feel guilty for the rest of your life". It's been programmed into the white mans mind that one must feel sensitive or treat a negro differently/special because we associate them with their ancestors who went through slavery.
The truth is, there is a very real problem with black on black crime. There is a bias in the media that the negro is not capable of being racist and they use violence purely as aggression for their past. The negro is frustrated because whitey held him down. Hate crimes are foreign to the negro, they simply don't exist. On the other hand, if it's whitey beating up a negro, it's racism. These are the typical excuses we are fed in society.
There is no excuse for the savage behavior of negros in America. We are led to believe this is out of aggression and frustration, but then one can look to Africa and it seems more of a tribal/cutural thing that is accepted. Instead we have idiots like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton parading around blaming everything else except the negro. Why can't negros take responsibility for their own problems?
I know you're frustrated Cohen but I think we're going around in circles here. I agree with everything you're saying...HOWEVER, the idea about black colleges had to happen because so few were being accepted into WHite colleges in the old days so HBC's "Historical Black Colleges" were built to educate blacks. I don't agree with AA. THere is no secret there. But I don't think AA existed when black colleges were built. This goes for black high schools, and black elementary schools also. Just because blacks are accepted in different diversified schools now, it dosen't mean that the black schools should be now closed down. AA should be whiped out of history though. There is a difference between allowing students to attend schools because of merit even if black schools are built...and allowing failing blacks entry into schools to fill a quota.
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i know what erica is doing now...pray in shul... :P
What does that mean?
I was being sarcastic, Erica..you're a black American and not Jewish. Today is the Jewish new year..so i made a joke that you were praying at the synogogue...
Happy Jewish NEw year then... I had no idea what shul is but I had a pretty good inkling of what a Jewish synogogue is.
Shalom.
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i know what erica is doing now...pray in shul... :P
What does that mean?
I was being sarcastic, Erica..you're a black American and not Jewish. Today is the Jewish new year..so i made a joke that you were praying at the synogogue...
Happy Jewish NEw year then... I had no idea what shul is but I had a pretty good inkling of what a Jewish synogogue is.
Shalom.
Did you ever learn about Judaism at school?
Happy Rosh Hashana - if thats the right thing to say?. ;D!!!
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I thought this was going to be one of Chaimfan's polls. But if it was, it would have said "What is Erica up to?" unless it was supposed to be in Ebonics. ;D
How do you pronounce Erica?
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i know what erica is doing now...pray in shul... :P
What does that mean?
I was being sarcastic, Erica..you're a black American and not Jewish. Today is the Jewish new year..so i made a joke that you were praying at the synogogue...
Happy Jewish NEw year then... I had no idea what shul is but I had a pretty good inkling of what a Jewish synogogue is.
Shalom.
Did you ever learn about Judaism at school?
Happy Rosh Hashana - if thats the right thing to say?. ;D!!!
Actually no. The most I've learned about Judaism is from here. But I never thought anything bad of Jews in the first place. :) I had no idea...I was just saying it usually how we say Happy New Year . :) Sorry if I offended anyone.
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I thought this was going to be one of Chaimfan's polls. But if it was, it would have said "What is Erica up to?" unless it was supposed to be in Ebonics. ;D
What does that mean, Yacov?
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I thought this was going to be one of Chaimfan's polls. But if it was, it would have said "What is Erica up to?" unless it was supposed to be in Ebonics. ;D
How do you pronounce Erica?
Short E- RIck- a (a makes the U sound). Why. lol (Its just that I've never been asked before..)
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I thought this was going to be one of Chaimfan's polls. But if it was, it would have said "What is Erica up to?" unless it was supposed to be in Ebonics. ;D
How do you pronounce Erica?
Short E- RIck- a (a makes the U sound). Why. lol (Its just that I've never been asked before..)
Because I was pronouncing it completely wrong, instead of the "Rick" sound i was saying "reek". Sorry.
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I thought this was going to be one of Chaimfan's polls. But if it was, it would have said "What is Erica up to?" unless it was supposed to be in Ebonics. ;D
How do you pronounce Erica?
Short E- RIck- a (a makes the U sound). Why. lol (Its just that I've never been asked before..)
Because I was pronouncing it completely wrong, instead of the "Rick" sound i was saying "reek". Sorry.
LOL I couldn't hear you, besides I thought my name was pronounced differently in different countries. lol Also dont' worry about it though. lol
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Oh please ::) ...Newman watch out Daniel has an ax to grind and he's aiming it at our friend Ze'ev too! :o
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
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which daniel?
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which daniel?
Not you, dannycookie. bullcat was talking about the JTF member 'Daniel' :)
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
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You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Liberalism 101:
"All conservatives generalise".
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You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Liberalism 101:
"All conservatives generalise".
Ze'ev You make a very good observation here however its not so much ignorance it a liberal upbringing that embraces many of the worst things in society. The worse thing when dealing with liberals like this is they play a shell game dealing with issues. They tell us what we want to here to put us off guard and then at the opportune moment the toss in how they really feel and hope we are to polite to say anything. If you do challenge them they paint you with the raciest brush hoping they will back you down.
Love the new look newman JB is going to have to watch out for his spot on de log.
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You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Liberalism 101:
"All conservatives generalise".
John Stuart Mill: "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives"
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which daniel?
Sorry - DannyCookies57 - my post was in reference to Daniel.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Daniel could never allow himself to see that truth Ze'ev. It would skew his idea of the world and his place in it
I think you can have a better exchange of ideas with Erica then Daniel -
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Ze'ev, I'm oh,so tired of repeating myself over and over again so you'll have to refresh my memory on what I'm excusing or justifying in evil behavior.
You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
The only thing I'm even remotely defending is the right for others to like what they like. I can't stand evil hip hop music; in fact I hate it. Mostly because I CAN'T (edit for spelling) defend it. Its stupid,there's nothing good about it. But because I like good hip hop, I'm using excuses?
Tell me, Ze'ev what else do I defend...because I'm pretty sure you passed over that post I dedicated wholey to you where I found EVERY time I spoke against evil blacks. You'd LIKE to think I'm the way you want me to be because I'm black and participation in any kind of black culture.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
:D :D :D
Good point!
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own? No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own?
Anyone that says, "classical music is lame" is making a stupid statement.
Anyone that thinks that classical music is lame is thinking a stupid thought.
Now, are they stupid? Perhaps.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
People are free to like whatever kind of inferior music they choose. ;)
I am not the music police.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got?
That's all I need.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
People are free to like whatever kind of inferior music they choose. ;)
I am not the music police.
Have you ever heard any classical music that highlights singing over instrumental music?
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Ze'ev, I'm oh,so tired of repeating myself over and over again so you'll have to refresh my memory on what I'm excusing or justifying in evil behavior.
You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
The only thing I'm even remotely defending is the right for others to like what they like. I can't stand evil hip hop music; in fact I hate it. Mostly because I CAN'T (edit for spelling) defend it. Its stupid,there's nothing good about it. But because I like good hip hop, I'm using excuses?
Tell me, Ze'ev what else do I defend...because I'm pretty sure you passed over that post I dedicated wholey to you where I found EVERY time I spoke against evil blacks. You'd LIKE to think I'm the way you want me to be because I'm black and participation in any kind of black culture.
I don't get angry when you say that classical music isn't everyone's bag. I get fed up when you don't realize that black culture, music, "entertainment" and "morals" are driving down those respective areas of American society. I get fed up when you can't understand this, and you say things like "classical music isn't everyone's bag". That's not the point, I'm not talking about musical taste. I find it hard for you to believe that I actually think that people don't like classical music BECAUSE of hip-hop. Like hip-hop singlehandedly destroyed many people's chances of ever liking classical music and it was the ONLY cause of this. This is such a simpleminded view and I can't even believe that anyone could think that someone else holds it. It's like I need to spell everything out for you because you can't even understand basic concepts. The point is that while hip-hop of course isn't the only cause of lowered standards when it comes to American musical tastes, it's a BIG cause. Let's forget about classical music, I never even said that people liked classical music BEFORE hip-hop ever came to existence, the situation then was just as bad as it is now. Young people in the 60s and 70s DID listen to fantastic music, such as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa, Emerson Lake and Palmer, the Doors, and other classic rock groups. This music was some of the most popular music of the time, and it was GREAT. That's because we didn't have people's standards driven down by rap crap. The black music that was made at the time was GREAT, so it didn't lower people's standards. But unforunately, soul and R&B aren't a predominant part of young black culture anymore. When hip-hop started becoming popular, standards were driven down very low, and hip-hop is one of the most popular forms of music now in the U.S. and standards have hit rock bottom. Hip-hop DID have a hand in driving ignorant people's standards down, because now they think that HIP-HOP IS THE ONLY MUSIC THERE IS. I hear people say stupid things like "I need to be able to dance to it" or "It needs to have a good beat" or "it needs to have 'dope' lyrics" or "it's gotta have a lot of bass". These are new lowered standards that HIP-HOP helped to put in place. If you try to play a piece of jazz or classical music to the average young person of yesteryear, chances are they would at least be able to appreciate it. If you played some decent music to the typical person of today, they wouldn't be able to listen to it and they wouldn't even think of it as music because it doesn't have some jungle beat with thumping bass and some savage screaming in the background.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
People are free to like whatever kind of inferior music they choose. ;)
I am not the music police.
Have you ever heard any classical music that highlights singing over instrumental music?
Ever heard O Fortuna?
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
People are free to like whatever kind of inferior music they choose. ;)
I am not the music police.
Have you ever heard any classical music that highlights singing over instrumental music?
Ever heard O Fortuna?
Yeah I love that!--Its always played when simon cowell steps on stage. ;D
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own?
Anyone that says, "classical music is lame" is making a stupid statement.
Anyone that thinks that classical music is lame is thinking a stupid thought.
Now, are they stupid? Perhaps.
Ze'ev was the first person to imply that people thought classical music is lame because of 'black hip hop culture'. Perhaps that DOES make them stupid but that's an opinion; and you know what they say about opinions, right?
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
No one can like a particular kind of music other than yours?
People are free to like whatever kind of inferior music they choose. ;)
I am not the music police.
Which is the point I'm trying to make. Policing other's choices of music would be a lot like someone telling some of you that listening to metal/death or otherwise is stupid and that you're contributing to the down-grading of society. I have no right to tell you what to listen to..I can only say I don't like it and move on with my life.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own?
Anyone that says, "classical music is lame" is making a stupid statement.
Anyone that thinks that classical music is lame is thinking a stupid thought.
Now, are they stupid? Perhaps.
Ze'ev was the first person to imply that people thought classical music is lame because of 'black hip hop culture'. Perhaps that DOES make them stupid but that's an opinion; and you know what they say about opinions, right?
I never said that THE reason people think classical music is lame is BECAUSE of black hip hop culture. It's definitely PART of the reason though.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got?
That's all I need.
Actually, you'd need a lot more to back that statement up. Like I mentioned not too long ago, there are people here who like violent death metal..could I say that's 'dumbing down' society? I could but it wouldn't make what I say true, now would it? People who like death metal will defend their choice of music. All I'm saying is that people who don't like that type of music, whether classical or metal have the right not to. What contributes to the dumbing down of society is not giving people the freedom to choose what and WHO they like or don't like.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Ze'ev, I'm oh,so tired of repeating myself over and over again so you'll have to refresh my memory on what I'm excusing or justifying in evil behavior.
You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
The only thing I'm even remotely defending is the right for others to like what they like. I can't stand evil hip hop music; in fact I hate it. Mostly because I CAN'T (edit for spelling) defend it. Its stupid,there's nothing good about it. But because I like good hip hop, I'm using excuses?
Tell me, Ze'ev what else do I defend...because I'm pretty sure you passed over that post I dedicated wholey to you where I found EVERY time I spoke against evil blacks. You'd LIKE to think I'm the way you want me to be because I'm black and participation in any kind of black culture.
I don't get angry when you say that classical music isn't everyone's bag. I get fed up when you don't realize that black culture, music, "entertainment" and "morals" are driving down those respective areas of American society. I get fed up when you can't understand this, and you say things like "classical music isn't everyone's bag". That's not the point, I'm not talking about musical taste. I find it hard for you to believe that I actually think that people don't like classical music BECAUSE of hip-hop. Like hip-hop singlehandedly destroyed many people's chances of ever liking classical music and it was the ONLY cause of this. This is such a simpleminded view and I can't even believe that anyone could think that someone else holds it. It's like I need to spell everything out for you because you can't even understand basic concepts. The point is that while hip-hop of course isn't the only cause of lowered standards when it comes to American musical tastes, it's a BIG cause. Let's forget about classical music, I never even said that people liked classical music BEFORE hip-hop ever came to existence, the situation then was just as bad as it is now. Young people in the 60s and 70s DID listen to fantastic music, such as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa, Emerson Lake and Palmer, the Doors, and other classic rock groups. This music was some of the most popular music of the time, and it was GREAT. That's because we didn't have people's standards driven down by rap crap. The black music that was made at the time was GREAT, so it didn't lower people's standards. But unforunately, soul and R&B aren't a predominant part of young black culture anymore. When hip-hop started becoming popular, standards were driven down very low, and hip-hop is one of the most popular forms of music now in the U.S. and standards have hit rock bottom. Hip-hop DID have a hand in driving ignorant people's standards down, because now they think that HIP-HOP IS THE ONLY MUSIC THERE IS. I hear people say stupid things like "I need to be able to dance to it" or "It needs to have a good beat" or "it needs to have 'dope' lyrics" or "it's gotta have a lot of bass". These are new lowered standards that HIP-HOP helped to put in place. If you try to play a piece of jazz or classical music to the average young person of yesteryear, chances are they would at least be able to appreciate it. If you played some decent music to the typical person of today, they wouldn't be able to listen to it and they wouldn't even think of it as music because it doesn't have some jungle beat with thumping bass and some savage screaming in the background.
I'm actually one of those people whose musical taste spreads about a wide selection of music. Jazz is great because there are upbeat instrumental songs that I can dance to. Have you ever heard of the group "Montana"? They were a BIG BAND type of group with Jazz elements...and I LOVE it! The classic rock I like has to have a certain message, a beat, and something I could dance to. This also goes for the r&b music and Disco I listen to. I love the sounds of different beats and how they coincide with the lyrics. Even when I'm listening to Twisted Sister, I have to get up and dance. I'm not a sit down and listen to the music kind of girl. :) I like to dance and move rhythmically. That dosen't make me a bad person because I like to move, at least I don't think so.
And just so we're clear. My musical tastes are such that I pass them on to my daughters but they're also free to choose to listen to whatever kind of music they want... barring violent hip hop and sexually explicit music. My 10 year old listens to Smooth Jazz while she sleeps, while she draws and while she mimics the music on her piano. That's what makes us all different...we don't have to like the same thing...and we don't have to be thought of as 'dumbing down society' because we have some upbeat rhythmic moves.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own?
Anyone that says, "classical music is lame" is making a stupid statement.
Anyone that thinks that classical music is lame is thinking a stupid thought.
Now, are they stupid? Perhaps.
Ze'ev was the first person to imply that people thought classical music is lame because of 'black hip hop culture'. Perhaps that DOES make them stupid but that's an opinion; and you know what they say about opinions, right?
I never said that THE reason people think classical music is lame is BECAUSE of black hip hop culture. It's definitely PART of the reason though.
You never mentioned anything OTHER than hip hop 'contributing' to the dumbing down of culture in our society
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I don't get angry when you say that classical music isn't everyone's bag. I get fed up when you don't realize that black culture, music, "entertainment" and "morals" are driving down those respective areas of American society. I get fed up when you can't understand this, and you say things like "classical music isn't everyone's bag". That's not the point, I'm not talking about musical taste. I find it hard for you to believe that I actually think that people don't like classical music BECAUSE of hip-hop. Like hip-hop singlehandedly destroyed many people's chances of ever liking classical music and it was the ONLY cause of this. This is such a simpleminded view and I can't even believe that anyone could think that someone else holds it. It's like I need to spell everything out for you because you can't even understand basic concepts. The point is that while hip-hop of course isn't the only cause of lowered standards when it comes to American musical tastes, it's a BIG cause. Let's forget about classical music, I never even said that people liked classical music BEFORE hip-hop ever came to existence, the situation then was just as bad as it is now. Young people in the 60s and 70s DID listen to fantastic music, such as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa, Emerson Lake and Palmer, the Doors, and other classic rock groups. This music was some of the most popular music of the time, and it was GREAT. That's because we didn't have people's standards driven down by rap crap. The black music that was made at the time was GREAT, so it didn't lower people's standards. But unforunately, soul and R&B aren't a predominant part of young black culture anymore. When hip-hop started becoming popular, standards were driven down very low, and hip-hop is one of the most popular forms of music now in the U.S. and standards have hit rock bottom. Hip-hop DID have a hand in driving ignorant people's standards down, because now they think that HIP-HOP IS THE ONLY MUSIC THERE IS. I hear people say stupid things like "I need to be able to dance to it" or "It needs to have a good beat" or "it needs to have 'dope' lyrics" or "it's gotta have a lot of bass". These are new lowered standards that HIP-HOP helped to put in place. If you try to play a piece of jazz or classical music to the average young person of yesteryear, chances are they would at least be able to appreciate it. If you played some decent music to the typical person of today, they wouldn't be able to listen to it and they wouldn't even think of it as music because it doesn't have some jungle beat with thumping bass and some savage screaming in the background.
This is an example of how our threads get hijacked.
We have to constantly explain conceptual ideas to Erica because even 'brighter-than-the-average-jig' ones like her cannot grasp anything abstract.
It's evolution. There's nothing abstract about swinging in the jungle or surviving the graslands of africa. No requirement to understand the abstract, I suppose.
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So sorry to get off topic but nice avatar Newman...a face made for a cereal box...mmmm hmmm...or perhaps a bowling bag. ;D ;)
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So sorry to get off topic but nice avatar Newman...a face made for a cereal box...mmmm hmmm...or perhaps a bowling bag. ;D ;)
The nignogs in my country get AA, too!
I'm trying to get in on the action, so I'm puttin' on da pollish..mmmm hmmm.
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Nice job - you got that whatsanacki look down...you'd get by the most discerning of eyes.
What number polish is it? Just curious...I don't need it because I've been told I'm already peachy. ;)
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Nice job - you got that whatsanacki look down...you'd get by the most discerning of eyes.
What number polish is it? Just curious...I don't need it because I've been told I'm already peachy. ;)
Good ol' Aussie 'Nugget' basic black. I got the 'nappy' head by sticking my tongue in the power socket.
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Nice job - you got that whatsanacki look down...you'd get by the most discerning of eyes.
What number polish is it? Just curious...I don't need it because I've been told I'm already peachy. ;)
Good ol' Aussie 'Nugget' basic black. I got the 'nappy' head by sticking my tongue in the power socket.
LOL. This reminds me of the movie "Soul Man" where a white man pretends to be black to get into Harvard Law School.
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Nice job - you got that whatsanacki look down...you'd get by the most discerning of eyes.
What number polish is it? Just curious...I don't need it because I've been told I'm already peachy. ;)
Good ol' Aussie 'Nugget' basic black. I got the 'nappy' head by sticking my tongue in the power socket.
LOL. This reminds me of the movie "Soul Man" where a white man pretends to be black to get into Harvard Law School.
That was funny!
"Whatchu lookin' at?"
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Nice job - you got that whatsanacki look down...you'd get by the most discerning of eyes.
What number polish is it? Just curious...I don't need it because I've been told I'm already peachy. ;)
Good ol' Aussie 'Nugget' basic black. I got the 'nappy' head by sticking my tongue in the power socket.
LOL. This reminds me of the movie "Soul Man" where a white man pretends to be black to get into Harvard Law School.
That was one of my favorite movies. I can't find it on DVD anywhere.
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I don't get angry when you say that classical music isn't everyone's bag. I get fed up when you don't realize that black culture, music, "entertainment" and "morals" are driving down those respective areas of American society. I get fed up when you can't understand this, and you say things like "classical music isn't everyone's bag". That's not the point, I'm not talking about musical taste. I find it hard for you to believe that I actually think that people don't like classical music BECAUSE of hip-hop. Like hip-hop singlehandedly destroyed many people's chances of ever liking classical music and it was the ONLY cause of this. This is such a simpleminded view and I can't even believe that anyone could think that someone else holds it. It's like I need to spell everything out for you because you can't even understand basic concepts. The point is that while hip-hop of course isn't the only cause of lowered standards when it comes to American musical tastes, it's a BIG cause. Let's forget about classical music, I never even said that people liked classical music BEFORE hip-hop ever came to existence, the situation then was just as bad as it is now. Young people in the 60s and 70s DID listen to fantastic music, such as the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Frank Zappa, Emerson Lake and Palmer, the Doors, and other classic rock groups. This music was some of the most popular music of the time, and it was GREAT. That's because we didn't have people's standards driven down by rap crap. The black music that was made at the time was GREAT, so it didn't lower people's standards. But unforunately, soul and R&B aren't a predominant part of young black culture anymore. When hip-hop started becoming popular, standards were driven down very low, and hip-hop is one of the most popular forms of music now in the U.S. and standards have hit rock bottom. Hip-hop DID have a hand in driving ignorant people's standards down, because now they think that HIP-HOP IS THE ONLY MUSIC THERE IS. I hear people say stupid things like "I need to be able to dance to it" or "It needs to have a good beat" or "it needs to have 'dope' lyrics" or "it's gotta have a lot of bass". These are new lowered standards that HIP-HOP helped to put in place. If you try to play a piece of jazz or classical music to the average young person of yesteryear, chances are they would at least be able to appreciate it. If you played some decent music to the typical person of today, they wouldn't be able to listen to it and they wouldn't even think of it as music because it doesn't have some jungle beat with thumping bass and some savage screaming in the background.
This is an example of how our threads get hijacked.
We have to constantly explain conceptual ideas to Erica because even 'brighter-than-the-average-jig' ones like her cannot grasp anything abstract.
It's evolution. There's nothing abstract about swinging in the jungle or surviving the graslands of africa. No requirement to understand the abstract, I suppose.
First of all, by naming the thread AFTER ME, you invited me in to discuss "what I'm up to". I'm not against conceptual ideas but you're against anything that is not what YOU believe in. And that's the truth. You talk about how dumb evil blacks are, then you bash any good ideas a black person has to help out the community. I'm not going to sit here and echo everything you've said to agree with you. I've even told you you were right many times and the only thing you seem to do is bash me for being positive.
And another thing...no one is talking about swinging in a jungle, newman. This thread is basically about music appreciation and why there are people who don't like the same music you and your friends here like. I'd like to know this... is it a requirement for someone to be your friend that they have to be in love with classical music?
And I remember distinctly some people saying that they hate blacks who can't think for themselves. If blacks who don't like classical music all of a sudden changed their way of thinking about the music, would you accept them then? Probably not. Because in your eyes, a negro with culture is just an oreo, or someone trying to be white. You can't please everybody, I guess.
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
That's a scary peice there. Along with "Tubular Bells" from The Exorcist. (songs only a really dark could love). {That wasn't a pun against black people, newman.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPEt5OTR6Vc
Edit:
I went looking for the Omen Theme and found that the name of the song is "Ave Satani"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wk3TKcIASk
...I think I need a musical detox after listening to those songs. lol
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Tubular Bells is one of the best albums of all time.
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Tubular Bells is one of the best albums of all time.
They can keep it. It just sounds so haunting.
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have you ever listened to any of it except the opening theme?
it is frankly a genius piece of music, it is as close to classical music as you will get with that instrumentation.
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have you ever listened to any of it except the opening theme?
it is frankly a genius piece of music, it is as close to classical music as you will get with that instrumentation.
That peice I won't listen to by myself... I'll listen to anything else the artist has though. But not Tubular Bells. My mom loves it though. She can have it also.
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just listen to it and immerse yourself in it, it is awesome. the albums tubular bells II and tubular bells III are not as good.
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just listen to it and immerse yourself in it, it is awesome. the albums tubular bells II and tubular bells III are not as good.
I don't have a problem with that. Tubular Bells just scares the Bejesus out of me.
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you are totally irrational.
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you are totally irrational.
It took watching the Exorcist alone for me to come to that conclusion. I'm not being irrational. I'm being a scaredy cat. I said I'd listen to the rest of his music.
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When Tubular Bells is the best bit?
How about listening to the album Tubular Bells from about 4 minutes into it, then you don't get the "scary" music.
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
The Omen theme is "Ave Satani" I posted a link on the last page. I'm not sure you want to listen to it though. lol
I had to chase away that chill by watching some Anita Baker, Take 6 and Earth Wind and Fire videos. lol
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
The Omen theme is "Ave Satani" I posted a link on the last page. I'm not sure you want to listen to it though. lol
I had to chase away that chill by watching some Anita Baker, Take 6 and Earth Wind and Fire videos. lol
That song is pure EVIL!
A comment on the youtube video translates the latin words:
Original Translation from Latin:
Blood we drink
Flesh we eat
Raise the body of Satan
Hail the Antichrist
Hail Satan..........apparently
I'm sure O fortuna was the theme tune of the initial film The Omen.
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
The Omen theme is "Ave Satani" I posted a link on the last page. I'm not sure you want to listen to it though. lol
I had to chase away that chill by watching some Anita Baker, Take 6 and Earth Wind and Fire videos. lol
That song is pure EVIL!
A comment on the youtube video translates the latin words:
Original Translation from Latin:
Blood we drink
Flesh we eat
Raise the body of Satan
Hail the Antichrist
Hail Satan..........apparently
I'm sure O fortuna was the theme tune of the initial film The Omen.
Oh no... Ave Satani was always the theme. I should know...my brother Damien (coincidence?) was born right around the time the original Omen came out. My dad would like to have us believe that he named my brother after a Lepre (Hope I spelled that correctly) Priest named Damien. LOL I can't call it.
I have a link for you. :) It should erase all of that evil we heard. lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-c7jkmIQb6Y
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
The Omen theme is "Ave Satani" I posted a link on the last page. I'm not sure you want to listen to it though. lol
I had to chase away that chill by watching some Anita Baker, Take 6 and Earth Wind and Fire videos. lol
That song is pure EVIL!
A comment on the youtube video translates the latin words:
Original Translation from Latin:
Blood we drink
Flesh we eat
Raise the body of Satan
Hail the Antichrist
Hail Satan..........apparently
I'm sure O fortuna was the theme tune of the initial film The Omen.
Oh no... Ave Satani was always the theme. I should know...my brother Damien (coincidence?) was born right around the time the original Omen came out. My dad would like to have us believe that he named my brother after a Lepre (Hope I spelled that correctly) Priest named Damien. LOL I can't call it.
I have a link for you. :) It should erase all of that evil we heard. lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-c7jkmIQb6Y
Thanks, it'll take a lot more then that though.....A Japanese version of YMCA, helps:
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=0f80Rv1acZA)
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Ever heard O Fortuna?
Is aint that the Omen theme ;D
Yeah it is. :D
The Omen theme is "Ave Satani" I posted a link on the last page. I'm not sure you want to listen to it though. lol
I had to chase away that chill by watching some Anita Baker, Take 6 and Earth Wind and Fire videos. lol
That song is pure EVIL!
A comment on the youtube video translates the latin words:
Original Translation from Latin:
Blood we drink
Flesh we eat
Raise the body of Satan
Hail the Antichrist
Hail Satan..........apparently
I'm sure O fortuna was the theme tune of the initial film The Omen.
Oh no... Ave Satani was always the theme. I should know...my brother Damien (coincidence?) was born right around the time the original Omen came out. My dad would like to have us believe that he named my brother after a Lepre (Hope I spelled that correctly) Priest named Damien. LOL I can't call it.
I have a link for you. :) It should erase all of that evil we heard. lol
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-c7jkmIQb6Y
Thanks, it'll take a lot more then that though.....A Japanese version of YMCA, helps:
(http://youtube.com/watch?v=0f80Rv1acZA)
Its a contemporary Gospel song. I love Take 6.
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You get angry when I say that classical music isn't everyone's bag, then assume that people don't like it because of black hip-hop culture. Before there was hip hop, there were people who thought classical music was lame. How do you explain that?
Stupid people.
The dumbing-down of society.
The dumbing down of society? That's all you've got? It couldn't at all be that the people who thought classical music was lame before hip hop was even a genre had tastes of their own?
Anyone that says, "classical music is lame" is making a stupid statement.
Anyone that thinks that classical music is lame is thinking a stupid thought.
Now, are they stupid? Perhaps.
I like chocolate. You might like vanilla. Someone else might like strawberry. Is there anyone flavor that's more intelligent, stupid, or evil than another? So what's the difference in music? It's just a matter of taste.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
In that case, I apolize for including you in that equation and recant my statement of including you. The concept only applies to Newman then.
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You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Liberalism 101:
"All conservatives generalise".
Conservatism 101:
"All liberals generalize."
Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh make that very apparent.
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Erica is not here to honestly discuss or debate ANYTHING.
All Erica is here to do is defend evil black behaviour at any cost while claiming not to.
A typical scenario is this:
A poster will give an account of black thugs intimidating people in the subway, gymnasium, mall...whatever. Erica does one or several of the following;
1/ make excuses the dress, language or behaviour of the blacks in question.
2/ claim their behaviour is normal.
3/ imply the poster is irrational for feeling intimidated.
4/ imply the poster is racist for feeling intimidated
5/ claim that non-blacks do the same
6/ claim that the posters are accusing HER of that sort of behaviour
I'm sick and tired of wasting time with her deflections, distortions and curveballs.
I advise all fellow JTFers to ignore her posts unless you enjoy banging your head against a wall and clarifying everything four times because she can't understand (or pretends not to understand) your questions or posts.
Stop being a baby Newman. I asked valid questions. I even said, on the OTHER post that I belive that MOST of the men in question did what the other poster said they did...I just didn't believe that ALL of them did, within the HOUR that 'a certain person' was in the gym with them. The numbers didn't add up. I DID go with the statistics, you're just angry that I didn't agree with every single thing YOU agreed with. You're pitiful.
I'm not here to be right. Even when you're wrong; for instance telling me and other people that I support evil blacks when I have documented proof of hating them; you never say..."Wow, I didn't read where you said all of that." You just leave the situation blank because you're too proud, or bull-headed to say so.
Ya see, Erica, Newman needs to hate you and needs for you to be evil. He can't stand the fact that there is an intelligent and ethical black person on here. It completely contradicts and destroys the stereotypes he has about black people. It's interesting that Newman and Ze'ev claim to have a problem with black evil behavior where in reality, they have an even bigger problem with blacks being good, smart, and moral people since it completely destroys their presumed stereotypes about black people. So how dare you come onto this forum and show us evidence to the contrary!
Wait, Daniel, that's not altogether true because they DO indeed love "Crazy" Joe Clark and Alan "I kicked my daughter out without a penny to her name because she's gay... that makes me look bad" Keyes.
I love finding good, smart, and moral blacks. It makes my day whenever I meet one and I love meeting them because it means that black people CAN aspire to something higher and they have the possibility of being good people. That is a hopeful notion for me. I would like to believe in free will and self-determination although sometimes it is hard to keep faith in that. Also, finding good, moral, and intelligent black people doesn't "completely destroy" any "stereotypes" about black people whatsoever. There are good, moral, and intelligent blacks, but unfortunately not all or even most of them are this way. It is possible for both types of blacks to exist simultaneously, Daniel. They are not mutually exclusive, this is faulty reasoning. The problem I have with Erica is not that she is a moral, intelligent, or good person, I actually appreciate all those qualities in her to some extent. The problem is that much of the time she makes excuses and justifies evil behavior.
You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Daniel could never allow himself to see that truth Ze'ev. It would skew his idea of the world and his place in it
I think you can have a better exchange of ideas with Erica then Daniel -
I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
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You're very presumptive Daniel and you seem to be very arrogant when you state things like "he thinks" or "he can't stand" when you don't even know me or newman very well. You show your ignorance very well.
Liberalism 101:
"All conservatives generalise".
Conservatism 101:
"All liberals generalize."
Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh make that very apparent.
Let's not forget about Bill Oh' REALLY... :D
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
I was gonna tell you that one of these days, you'll get 'pow'....right in the kisser. But that was the wrong sitcom. :)
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
I was gonna tell you that one of these days, you'll get 'pow'....right in the kisser. But that was the wrong sitcom. :)
One day, the next black person (man, woman or child) will come up to you and give you a hug, just because they feel like it. Or because you need it. The more you bash the GOOD blacks, the more idiotic you'll look.
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
I was gonna tell you that one of these days, you'll get 'pow'....right in the kisser. But that was the wrong sitcom. :)
One day, the next black person (man, woman or child) will come up to you and give you a hug, just because they feel like it. Or because you need it. The more you bash the GOOD blacks, the more idiotic you'll look.
I don't bash good blacks, I praise them.
I deserve hugs from ALL blacks. They should say..." Whah thankyou, massuh boss. Iffen not fo' yo' people, mah people would be back in africa wid dem damn face flies. mmmm hmmm".
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
I was gonna tell you that one of these days, you'll get 'pow'....right in the kisser. But that was the wrong sitcom. :)
One day, the next black person (man, woman or child) will come up to you and give you a hug, just because they feel like it. Or because you need it. The more you bash the GOOD blacks, the more idiotic you'll look.
I don't bash good blacks, I praise them.
I deserve hugs from ALL blacks. They should say..." Whah thankyou, massuh boss. Iffen not fo' yo' people, mah people would be back in africa wid dem damn face flies. mmmm hmmm".
You are of the ilk I'd tell my 3 year old not to talk to,or look at. You're stupid. You can't speak proper English. You need therapy and I feel sorry for you. Its no wonder you're not married and have no kids. You are so busy being a sourpuss that you've probably run off potential mates with your evil personality.
And you DO bash good blacks when you tell me to 'look for diamonds in the trash all you want, you'll still find trash". That speaks to your inability to be truthful about your real feelings; that you don't think there are any good blacks at all. Especially since you could only come up with 4 blacks who fit your bill of 'good blacks' and TWO aren't even real people!
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I don't have any illusions about the world. I recognize the problems and issues and many black people have. After all, I work in right smack in the middle of one of those communities in the south Bronx. I merely object to the constant villifying of blacks, not because I think it makes blacks look bad, but because it makes Jews look really bad.
(Chaim's whiney 'kyke' impersonation voice.................)
"Oy, let's not upset anybody......don't criticise the black-nazis, oy oy oy oy oy"
Criticize black evil people..go ahead...I won't stop you from that but don't block progress by bashing GOOD blacks also. It really does make you look like a racist, biggoted Archie Bunker.
:-* :-* :-* :-*(http://aycu20.webshots.com/image/26339/2002984412440278274_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002984412440278274)
You must be proud of yourself.
I was gonna tell you that one of these days, you'll get 'pow'....right in the kisser. But that was the wrong sitcom. :)
One day, the next black person (man, woman or child) will come up to you and give you a hug, just because they feel like it. Or because you need it. The more you bash the GOOD blacks, the more idiotic you'll look.
I don't bash good blacks, I praise them.
I deserve hugs from ALL blacks. They should say..." Whah thankyou, massuh boss. Iffen not fo' yo' people, mah people would be back in africa wid dem damn face flies. mmmm hmmm".
LOL :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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How is she a master JTFer, besides posting over a thousand times? I assume if must have said she was a pro JTFer when she was in that range.
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How is she a master JTFer, besides posting over a thousand times? I assume if must have said she was a pro JTFer when she was in that range.
That's the only reason I'm listed as a Master JTF'er...because I have over 1,000 posts. I'm not trying to join the club or anything...don't worry.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
Good. Hope it's cancer. I'll do the hora
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
Good. Hope it's cancer. I'll do the hora
You have to be a horribly evil person to wish death on someone. You're bitter about something that happened 18 years ago and the kicker is that the situation is completely separate from the evil black people you mentioned. You're angry with the 'professor' not with black people. I think its easier for you to place blame on blacks than to accept responsibility for the fact that you failed yourself after you didn't seek a lawsuit. Whether or not you were a racist doesn't amount to a hill of beans when it comes to the fact that you were racially discriminated against and denied entry into a college in Florida. What were you afraid of, ChaimBenMordachai? Were you afraid that someone might peg you as a racist? After all, you did just call me and every other black person who isn't AA an ape.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
Good. Hope it's cancer. I'll do the hora
You don't want an education, you want someone to throw you a "WHAAH!!!" party because now you're kicking yourself for not taking care of your schooling 18 years ago. A lot of things could have gone in your favor but you chose to give up, rather than keep your stride. Blame yourself... don't blame evil blacks or idiot professors for that. You are in control of your own actions. You could have had those people eating out out of your hand by proving them wrong...and the best way to make people hate you is to get an education in America.
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...and the best way to make people hate you is to get an education in America.
Is that why blacks are so ignorant? They just want to be loved. :laugh:
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...and the best way to make people hate you is to get an education in America.
Is that why blacks are so ignorant? They just want to be loved. :laugh:
No, but I think its the reason why people like YOU are ignorant. Always playing "look at me!" Well, newman..everyone just turned the other way.
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
Good. Hope it's cancer. I'll do the hora
You don't want an education, you want someone to throw you a "WHAAH!!!" party because now you're kicking yourself for not taking care of your schooling 18 years ago. A lot of things could have gone in your favor but you chose to give up, rather than keep your stride. Blame yourself... don't blame evil blacks or idiot professors for that. You are in control of your own actions. You could have had those people eating out out of your hand by proving them wrong...and the best way to make people hate you is to get an education in America.
"...best way to get people to hate you is to get an education." Correct. Especially if you've gotten that education at the expense of somebody else who was MORE QUALIFIED.
Oh, I got an education, Mammy..believe me. The day that Dr. Larry Leslie said that to me, and the next day your fellow apes (along with a fellow self-hating Jew) then kicked me out of the anti-apartheid group without provocation...because Leslie contacted the advisor at my school; the Boer students on campus who opened my eyes to what you kaffirs really were...I was educated real fast.
Go ahead Erica...tell Leslie you've met me. I'm sure he will tell you what a filthy "oppressive Zionist" I am...
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So AS A WHOLE isn't the same as an entire (group) in this situation. Is that an Aussie thing...where the words between the states and your neck of the woods ARE the same but have a different meaning? Like "Fag" cigarrette (UK) to slang "FAG" meaning homosexual (America)?
You're stating the obvious!!!!!!
We never said 'as a whole' meant 'entire'!!!!!!!!
It describes a characteristic of the majority of a group..........NOT the entirity!!!!!
How will you ever teach children???????
This another example of time wasting deflection by not comprehending what is written.
Majority means MOST, newman...it dosen't mean ALL or 'AS A WHOLE".
Also, newman...when I DO become a teacher, I'll be a great one. There is no doubt in my mind that I will encourage more black children to be positive and do something with their lives besides be negative like YOU. You just made up an entire definition for words that aren't listed in references anywhere.
Of course you'll become a teacher..at the expense of somebody who the PC consider "privileged and advantaged"
I'm taking out a student loan to earn my degrees and will be responsible for getting MYSELF through school, not some white person. AA isn't making sure I get my education and become an educator, I AM. People like you make me sick.
Good. Hope it's cancer. I'll do the hora
You don't want an education, you want someone to throw you a "WHAAH!!!" party because now you're kicking yourself for not taking care of your schooling 18 years ago. A lot of things could have gone in your favor but you chose to give up, rather than keep your stride. Blame yourself... don't blame evil blacks or idiot professors for that. You are in control of your own actions. You could have had those people eating out out of your hand by proving them wrong...and the best way to make people hate you is to get an education in America.
"...best way to get people to hate you is to get an education." Correct. Especially if you've gotten that education at the expense of somebody else who was MORE QUALIFIED.
Oh, I got an education,ERICA..believe me. The day that Dr. Larry Leslie said that to me, and the next day your fellow apes (along with a fellow self-hating Jew) then kicked me out of the anti-apartheid group without provocation...because Leslie contacted the advisor at my school; the Boer students on campus who opened my eyes to what you kaffirs really were...I was educated real fast.
Go ahead Erica...tell Leslie you've met me. I'm sure he will tell you what a filthy "oppressive Zionist" I am...
(Bold AND name change, mine) I don't want to meet the man because if I did, I'd kick him where the sun dosen't shine. You are so bitter that you can't see when someone is taking up your pain and trying to lift you up. I can't help you get over your bitterness from getting into that school, but I can tell you this: never underestimate the encouragement "ANYONE" can give you.
You're mad at the evil blacks for kicking you out of the group...they didn't, in turn, take your spot at the University you were forbidden to enter by a racist, anti-semetic pig.
I'm tired of you blaming blacks for why YOU didn't get into school. In this case, no black was responsible. The person you should REALLY be on is that professor, or OFF of the professor so that you can get on with your life. One pig stopped you from going to school. A few evil blacks stopped you from being in the anti-apartheid group. Now pick yourself up and try again somewhere else.
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Hey Erica, if AA isn't getting you through school, why are you in favor of AA?
Just abolish AA and compete with the rest of us equally.
You deserve no special privileges.
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Hey Erica, if AA isn't getting you through school, why are you in favor of AA?
Just abolish AA and compete with the rest of us equally.
You deserve no special privileges.
I answered this question 21 times here. Where did you read I was in favor of AA?
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Hey Erica, if AA isn't getting you through school, why are you in favor of AA?
Just abolish AA and compete with the rest of us equally.
You deserve no special privileges.
I answered this question 21 times here. Where did you read I was in favor of AA?
That is true! Erica often calls for the end of affirmative action. I'll give her that one.
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Hey Erica, if AA isn't getting you through school, why are you in favor of AA?
Just abolish AA and compete with the rest of us equally.
You deserve no special privileges.
Also judeanoncapta, if it weren't for you and Allen T, I wouldn't have come here in the first place. Sometimes I wish I would have turned the other way because not 5 minutes after I got here I was being bashed by the both of you. Don't make me post all of the "NICE" parts of the emails we sent through youtube. ANd let it be known that YOU and ALLEN were the first people I told (from this site) how I felt about Al Sharpton, Jackson, Affirmative Action, Farrakkan, and evil blacks. Instead of coming here with the truth and dispelling the untruth that I was FOR each of these subjects, you lied instead. Asking me over and over again how I felt about which ever subject as if I'd slip up and lobby 100% support for them.
I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. Maybe I should have taken a shortcut to answering this question...
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Well, you must get something out of being here because you have atleast 1000 posts each under two different names.
Tell me, Erica. What do you get out of this forum that keeps you coming back under various related aliases?
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Tell me, Erica. What do you get out of this forum that keeps you coming back under various related aliases?
Keeping us rasist whites busy so that we cannot inflict mischief on blacks.
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Well, you must get something out of being here because you have atleast 1000 posts each under two different names.
Tell me, Erica. What do you get out of this forum that keeps you coming back under various related aliases?
You say "aliases" as if I'm two different people judeanoncapta. I have always represented myself as ERICA. I'm Erica. Period.
What I get from being here is the chance to be involved in discussions about race. Remember, as I told you before, you are partially the reason why I even signed up, plus I had some questions to ask Chaim...but I'm past asking him anything more..I've been there, done that and have been spat out by him already. Not comforting.
I keep coming back because I love to debate and I love to represent the GOOD in black America. But no matter what I say or how I say it, YOU and people like you will assume things about me that I've debunked many, many times. I told YOU at first that AA needed to stop. But you came here acting that I never emailed that to you. I told you FIRST that I belive that evil blacks are a problem in America...yet you came in here and accused me of supporting evil blacks.
What's that about?
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Tell me, Erica. What do you get out of this forum that keeps you coming back under various related aliases?
Keeping us rasist whites busy so that we cannot inflict mischief on blacks.
Don't joke like that. I'm not here for that. I'm not that important of a person to ever do something as stupid as be a distraction so that blacks are left alone. I don't hold a political office, I don't know any black militant people, I don't work for the CIA, nor for small sects who claim to hate Jews. I've been accused of it all. All I am is a military spouse, mother of 5, a student and someone who has varying opinions on race relations in America. I'm no threat.
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Yes you shoud give her a break guys she's not so bad after all; Just ignore Newman and post in other forum sections too. It's looking kinda weird when you're posting only in three threads about AA. ::)
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I prefer to pay attention to newman and ignore her.
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I prefer to pay attention to newman and ignore her.
If that was the case, you shouldn't have come into this thread at all..after all no one was summoning you..it isn't called "Whta's Muck up to?" ::)
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Don't joke like that. I'm not here for that. I'm not that important of a person to ever do something as stupid as be a distraction so that blacks are left alone. I don't hold a political office, I don't know any black militant people, I don't work for the CIA, nor for small sects who claim to hate Jews. I've been accused of it all. All I am is a military spouse, mother of 5, a student and someone who has varying opinions on race relations in America. I'm no threat.
Wow! That is an incredible load! You're certainly deserving of respect and you're definitely thick skinned, I'm just sorry that you're being unjustly mistreated here.
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
You haven't given me credit every OTHER time I've said it, Why now? I've said that to EVERYONE here.
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Don't joke like that. I'm not here for that. I'm not that important of a person to ever do something as stupid as be a distraction so that blacks are left alone. I don't hold a political office, I don't know any black militant people, I don't work for the CIA, nor for small sects who claim to hate Jews. I've been accused of it all. All I am is a military spouse, mother of 5, a student and someone who has varying opinions on race relations in America. I'm no threat.
Wow! That is an incredible load! You're certainly deserving of respect and you're definitely thick skinned, I'm just sorry that you're being unjustly mistreated here.
Thank you Ben-Alan..I appreciate you and respect you also.
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
You haven't given me credit every OTHER time I've said it, Why now? I've said that to EVERYONE here.
Come on Erica...that wasn't nice. You speak with a forked tongue sometimes. This time you made it clear.
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Well looky heah! She be Erica and she be a wise mammy. She be wise sho 'nuff to be gettin into school because she be gettin dat ole Affirmitiff Ackshum.
Dat be d truth uh huh!
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
You haven't given me credit every OTHER time I've said it, Why now? I've said that to EVERYONE here.
Come on Erica...that wasn't nice. You speak with a forked tongue sometimes. This time you made it clear.
It WAS all I could do, bullcat. Everytime I wrote I don't support such and such... you all came in and accused me of supporting it. I even found every quote I made about evil blacks, AA and everything else. I don't speak with a forked tongue but a lot of you here DO. Its amazing, all I had to post here was a tagline and you all could have left me alone with the questions of what I support or who I support. If I don't say it the way you want to read it, I'm supporting evil. I'm tired of being seen in that light. I'VE ALWAYS made clear my stance on AA, evil blacks, and Sharpton and the clan. ALWAYS.
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Well looky heah! She be Erica and she be a wise mammy. She be wise sho 'nuff to be gettin into school because she be gettin dat ole Affirmitiff Ackshum.
Dat be d truth uh huh!
Only IDIOTS speak that way and if you're repeating it, it doesn't make you look any better than evil blacks who speak like that. I'm not recieving anything AA for my education. You're just jealous that I didn't let people walk over me and stall my dreams the way you did. Get over yourself.
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I agree. I get the idea that affirmative action may not be for you...yet...you do make alot of excuses for why lazy people may need to have such services. Since you have taken up the mantle for all black people on the forum...what do you expect? Don't say you haven't! ;)
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I agree. I get the idea that affirmative action may not be for you...yet...you do make alot of excuses for why lazy people may need to have such services. Since you have taken up the mantle for all black people on the forum...what do you expect? Don't say you haven't! ;)
I haven't made excuses for anyone. I have offered reasons but never offered them up as excuses. I've always maintained that blacks who don't do anything with their lives and are lazy have only themselves to blame.
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
You haven't given me credit every OTHER time I've said it, Why now? I've said that to EVERYONE here.
Erica, I respect you a great deal and like you a lot but sometimes you've just gotta keep quiet! The more you repeat things and get aggravated the less likely you're going to be left alone!
People do hear what you say the first time round, they just don't accept it but its their choice.
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I DON'T LIKE AL SHARPTON, JESSE JACKSON, FARRAKKAN, EVIL BLACKS and for the 22nd time, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
I need to give you credit for this statement.
You haven't given me credit every OTHER time I've said it, Why now? I've said that to EVERYONE here.
Erica, I respect you a great deal and like you a lot but sometimes you've just gotta keep quiet! The more you repeat things and get aggravated the less likely you're going to be left alone!
People do hear what you say the first time round, they just don't accept it but its their choice.
Its not fair. If I don't repeat everything I've said before, people accuse me of being evil. I'm really tired of that. But I will agree to be quiet. Maybe I should just let people think what they want and let my sig line speak for itself.
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Erika stands for what we don't .She is really only here to divide and conquer us.She has no heart for us and dreams of our demise.That is the truth....
wayne jude
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But she is polite and more or less kind sooooooo,lets be kinda nice .Or not
wayne jude.... ;)
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But she is polite and more or less kind sooooooo,lets be kinda nice .Or not
wayne jude.... ;)
Hahahahaha
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you got it BRO!
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I checked her out ! She is no poor black women just trying to get along.She is a divider.She goes from site to site to weaken them.Check her out .It is true !I [censored] nazis to get info from them.But she is our enemie trying to play the race card and be felt sorry for.LOOk her up.It is true!
Wayne jude abraham!
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I checked her out ! She is no poor black women just trying to get along.She is a divider.She goes from site to site to weaken them.Check her out .It is true !I shove off nazis to get info from them.But she is our enemie trying to play the race card and be felt sorry for.LOOk her up.It is true!
Wayne jude abraham!
You're stupid, white nation, and there is nothing Christian about you. Not one thing. What other site have you seen me on? *This should be interesting.*
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Is out there un Christian erika!
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I checked her out ! She is no poor black women just trying to get along.She is a divider.She goes from site to site to weaken them.Check her out .It is true !I shove off nazis to get info from them.But she is our enemie trying to play the race card and be felt sorry for.LOOk her up.It is true!
Wayne jude abraham!
You're stupid, white nation, and there is nothing Christian about you. Not one thing. What other site have you seen me on? *This should be interesting.*
Erica is not here to divide anything she represents the black point of view as she sees it. I would be interested in seeing the other places you claim she posts also.
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Bull Cjd check her out your self!
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Bull Cjd check her out your self!
I guess that means you have nothing. LOL
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Is out there un Christian erika!
Are you deficient? Can YOU even understand the sentence (?) you just typed?
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Cjd I have no respect for you if you don't check her out!She is against Jews and whites.Dont be dumb cause she is a women and black if you don't look her up shame bro on you!Don'sell us out and please see her words !SHe doe s this all over the internet.BLock me and if you do you desearve what you get and I will prove she is here to hurt us.And PS IM a soldier too!
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
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Because she does this on
many sites Wayne Jude Abraham
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Cjd I have no respect for you if you don't check her out!She is against Jews and whites.Dont be dumb cause she is a women and black if you don't look her up shame bro on you!Don'sell us out and please see her words !SHe doe s this all over the internet.BLock me and if you do you desearve what you get and I will prove she is here to hurt us.And PS IM a soldier too!
Give me some of the sites you see a problem with. I am familiar with what Erica posts here while I don't agree with her on some issues I don't think she is here to hurt us.
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Because she does this on
many sites Wayne Jude Abraham
I'm only on 3 sites, idiot. What are you talking about? lol This one, Youtube, and breastfeeding.com... please ...PLEASE bring up any other sites where you THINK you've see me. lol
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
Its because I didn't come here for that. I came here because I was referred by Alan and judeanoncapta to talk about racial issues. I didn't see a problem with that. As for where I stand with Israel, I am for Jewish people who want to go home to their home land if that's what they want to do. Especially those in the former Soviet Union suffering emensely. That's as far as my involvement in Pro-Israel movement goes. Sorry. ALL good, righteous jews should be allowed to be free to go home.
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Bfd spare me you are an enemy amoung us. I CJD Doesn't believe that so be it .BUt you hate us so I will never stop!NEVER AGAIN
punk!
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
Its because I didn't come here for that. I came here because I was referred by Alan and judeanoncapta to talk about racial issues. I didn't see a problem with that. As for where I stand with Israel, I am for Jewish people who want to go home to their home land if that's what they want to do. Especially those in the former Soviet Union suffering emensely. That's as far as my involvement in Pro-Israel movement goes. Sorry. ALL good, righteous jews should be allowed to be free to go home.
One of, if not the, essential point of this movement is that Israel needs to be stronger and the Jewish people need to have a homeland free of Arabs. If that is more or less irrelevant to you then there is no reason to be posting here.
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Bfd spare me you are an enemy amoung us. I CJD Doesn't believe that so be it .BUt you hate us so I will never stop!NEVER AGAIN
punk!
You are truely crazy. "bfd" what does that mean? How could anyone believe you when you aren't producing this proof that I'm "EVERYWHERE"? LOL You're a liar. Face it.
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
Its because I didn't come here for that. I came here because I was referred by Alan and judeanoncapta to talk about racial issues. I didn't see a problem with that. As for where I stand with Israel, I am for Jewish people who want to go home to their home land if that's what they want to do. Especially those in the former Soviet Union suffering emensely. That's as far as my involvement in Pro-Israel movement goes. Sorry. ALL good, righteous jews should be allowed to be free to go home.
One of, if not the, essential point of this movement is that Israel needs to be stronger and the Jewish people need to have a homeland free of Arabs. If that is more or less irrelevant to you then there is no reason to be posting here.
I can't say anything right, huh? I never said it was irrelevant to me..I was just telling you what I thought of Israel and her people. If you're angry with me for supporting Jews' rights to go home, well that's bad, really bad. I was never against you or your faith. And you know it. Now all of a sudden because I'm not sitting here typing what you type I don't need to be here? Whatever.
I still support those Jews in Russia who need to go home to be free. God loves them all. If that sounds 'evil' and unsupportive to you, then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Don't change the subject girl!
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Don't change the subject girl!
No one is changing the subject, man. But I can't believe you lied to all of these people about me being on other sites hating white people. You aren't a man, you're a monster. Liars are the worst animals in the world. How could you be a Marine with no honor?
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Cjd you are right she is harmless!
Wayne jude Abraham.
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You're right, Newman, it's like banging your head against a wall; a very hard, steel wall with very long spikes sticking out of it. She's a twisted person.
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i told you not a goofy marine but a soldier.And Grow up girl!They all know how to look you up,so don't play innocent!
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You're right, Newman, it's like banging your head against a wall; a very hard, steel wall with very long spikes sticking out of it. She's a twisted person.
And exactly how am I twisted? You have a person here who is claiming that I'm on some non-existant site bashing white people. He even brought up my myspace! WHY? There is nothing there that says that I'm racist against white people. And I'm twisted?
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i told you not a goofy marine but a soldier.And Grow up girl!They all know how to look you up,so don't play innocent!
You're stupid. And Marines aren't goofy. So you're in the Army...good for you..you STILL aren't representing the Man you're supposed to be by lying. Let them look me up, they'll come out just like you did..empty-handed. If you can't name websites i'm on, you're just as dumb as a doorknob.
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yup
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
I love you JB! Eventhough I don't agree with your stance on a lot of issues..you are cool.
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Lucky Erica, your own thread ;D, lol what do you have to do to get that:P
I dont know if anyone has asked you, but what are your views on Israel?
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
I love you JB! Eventhough I don't agree with your stance on a lot of issues..you are cool.
Well...I've seen it all now :-* ;)
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Lucky Erica, your own thread ;D, lol what do you have to do to get that:P
I dont know if anyone has asked you, but what are your views on Israel?
According to Erica she is the theme of many a thread. ;)
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
I love you JB! Eventhough I don't agree with your stance on a lot of issues..you are cool.
Well...I've seen it all now :-* ;)
It must have something to do with the moon is it full? Simply amazing!! ::)
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Jb is good for the Image of the Blacks everywhere!
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Lucky Erica, your own thread ;D, lol what do you have to do to get that:P
I dont know if anyone has asked you, but what are your views on Israel?
According to Erica she is the theme of many a thread. ;)
Its not according to me. I'm not dedicating any thread to myself. lol Talk to Newman about that one. lol He's responsible for that. I truely wish no one would call me out like that. Its kind of tacky.
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
I love you JB! Eventhough I don't agree with your stance on a lot of issues..you are cool.
Well...I've seen it all now :-* ;)
It must have something to do with the moon is it full? Simply amazing!! ::)
No its nothing like that. I think its because I love it when people talk to others as if they have sense. Its okay to disagree with someone, I don't fault anyone for that, I just have a problem with people speaking ignorantly (in ebonics) to someone to make them angry. Eventhough I disagree with JB emensely on a lot of things, I'm glad he was able not to use one ebonic term while responding to me. That's all that was. Heck. I love everyone who will take the time to speak proper English especially in this forum.
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Only on the most widely watched thread .Again , your a Hypocrite!
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Erica, perhaps if you posted on non-black issues people would be less bothered. I haven't seen you posting on many Pro-Israel or Pro-Jewish topics just the topics that are anti-black.
This forum is all about points of view, it is good to have a black point of view on things, I don't agree with Erica but it is still good to hear from her, it gets people thinking and posting.
Personal attacks and lies don't help.
Pro-Israel and Pro-Jewish topics are good to be discussed but if you are not Jewish most of the time you are told that you don't know what you are talking about.
JB I never thought you'd say that. :)
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OK so JB derides your race but to your face he is kind.OK then...That means something to you?Erika?
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OK so JB derides your race but to your face he is kind.OK then...That means something to you?Erika?
JB STILL disagrees with me. All I ask is that he is respectful to me enough not to speak in ebonics when responding to me. I haven't visited the "Ape" thead in a long time because I had to grow the hell up and understand that enough is enough. I'm not an Ape so why should I care why he posted the thread in the first place? I had to give up. However it touched me in a special place (in my heart) when JB came into the othe threads with actual opinions and not speaking out of the side of his neck with ebonics. I LIKE that. If that bugs you, oh well.
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I'm not sure where Erica stands on alot of issues. I do know she can articulate her argument very well. She has certainly got the forum rolling.