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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ulli on September 13, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
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Today is a big issue in the German-pro Israel and pro USA newspaper (The World - Die Welt) about North Korea, Syria and the Iran.
I have used the google-translation tool, because i want to give you the whole article. The translation is not perfect, but i think you can understand it.
Does North Korea sell its nuclear weapons at Syria?
Secret recordings permit the assumption that North Korea sells remainders of its atomic plants to Syria and Iran. This suspicion could be background of the mysterious attack of the Israeli Air Force on Syria.
North Korea under suspicion: Israel and the USA fear that the communist regime could support Syria with the structure of a nuclear plant. The American secret services support themselves mainly by secret Israeli determinations of the past six months and by „dramatic Satellitenaufnahmen “. Afterwards one could come to the conclusion that on Syrian area the building of nuclear weapons is prepared.
In „the New York Time “a US civil servant with the words is quoted: “The Israelis believe, sell the remainder, which it has still, to North Korea to Syria and Iran.” Loud „Washington post office “is to have only a small group around security advisor Stephen J. Hadley entrance to the new information concerning North Korea and Syria. Some security experts conditions thereafter the possibility of a nuclear joint venture of the two countries rather sceptically opposite.
Cryptic attack of the Israeli Air Force
This suspicion could have been also an explanation for the cryptic attack of the Israeli Air Force on goals in Syria one week ago. The airplanes had hit a target in the northeast of Syria after information „the New York Time “thereby. It is however so far unclearly, over which it thereby acted and the damage is as large, announced the newspaper with reference to officials US Department of Defense.
A former Israeli official is to have revealed that the attack was directed toward a plant, in which “unorthodox weapons” be manufactured could. Other sources mean that the Israeli jets would possibly have had a Syrian weapon transport for the Lebanese Hisbollah militia in the visor. In addition, as the further possible explanation it had been speculated that the Syrian air defense for the case of a possible attack on Iran should be only tested.
Of Syria UN-Ambassadors Baschir Jafaari according to the Israeli combat fliers had penetrated with supersonic speed into the north of Syria and had at night thrown ammunition off, which caused however no damage. It protested in writing with the Security Council against the penetration of Israeli combat aircraft in of Syria air space.
From Washington the attack was however not confirmed, the goal. However the US official spoke of more than one attack. Israel holds back itself with comments. With the TV-transmitter CNN it meant however: The Israeli government is very lucky over the successful mission. In the report it is called further: The attack left a large hole in the desert.
Still three days ago the USA had emphasized the openness of North Korea with the inspections of its atomic plants. Experts from the USA, China and Russia knew plants of the nuclear complex Yongbyon switched parts off of in the middle of July visited and „everything would have seen, what they had to see “praised to US external office speaker Sean McCormack. That confirmed the director/conductor of the US delegation, Sung Kim.
You can read the original-article in German here: http://www.welt.de/politik/article1181489/Verkauft_Nordkorea_seine_Atomwaffen_an_Syrien.html (http://www.welt.de/politik/article1181489/Verkauft_Nordkorea_seine_Atomwaffen_an_Syrien.html)
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Yeah, I already know this, the Israeli newspapers wrote about it .
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Yeah, I already know this, the Israeli newspapers wrote about it .
For me it was totally new and i was shocked. No German newspaper or political magazine has ever write about this before. Sadly i speak no hebrew. :-[
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you can find then in English i'll get you links in a minute
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http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3449082,00.html
this is Israeli news site in english :
http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3083,00.html
and also this :
http://www.jpost.com/
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http://www.israpundit.com/2006/
http://www.jpost.com/
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http://www.israpundit.com/2006/
http://www.jpost.com/
Thanks mord you are the best. :)
P.S.: Thank you too Dexter
I have translated the article from jpost.com into the German language. Look here: http://www.gruene-pest.de/showpost.php?p=322691&postcount=2 (http://www.gruene-pest.de/showpost.php?p=322691&postcount=2)
When you wan't to read the whole thead, you can look here:
http://www.gruene-pest.de/showthread.php?p=322691#post322691 (http://www.gruene-pest.de/showthread.php?p=322691#post322691)
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Yeah, it basically says the same things as the JPost and NYTimes articles. I guess it's good to know that there's no anti-Israel propaganda in the paper, but after all like you said, it's the pro-Israel and pro-America paper, the same thing probably couldn't be said for all the leftist German papers. It still seems pretty unclear what the attack was on.
Was it on a Syrian nuclear facility provided by North Korea?
Was it a Hezbullah missile shipment from Iran?
Was it an Israeli test of the Syrian air defense capability in order to draw up plans for an air attack on Iran's nuclear infastructure?
I'm still on the fence about it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was any of these, but I think I'm leaning toward it being the first because according to Israeli intelligence Syria is setting these up and it has satellite imagery of the supposed structures and the U.S. believes this to be the case too after receiving the information from Israel.
I don't think it's a shipment of weapons to Hezbullah because there have been shipments going to Hezbullah for the past year and a half and before that as well.
Doesn't seem like it's a test of the Syrian air defense because why would they need to bomb something just to test the Syrian air defense capabilities?
THe murdermuslimes are at it again!
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No one knows what happened but this much is knownIsrael landed ground troops in the same area and cell phones and othe comunications were'nt working for 5 days after
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http://www.israpundit.com/2006/
http://www.jpost.com/
Thanks mord you are the best. :)
P.S.: Thank you too Dexter
I have translated the article from jpost.com into the German language. Look here: http://www.gruene-pest.de/showpost.php?p=322691&postcount=2 (http://www.gruene-pest.de/showpost.php?p=322691&postcount=2)
When you wan't to read the whole thead, you can look here:
http://www.gruene-pest.de/showthread.php?p=322691#post322691 (http://www.gruene-pest.de/showthread.php?p=322691#post322691)
Good posts
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Yeah, it basically says the same things as the JPost and NYTimes articles. I guess it's good to know that there's no anti-Israel propaganda in the paper, but after all like you said, it's the pro-Israel and pro-America paper, the same thing probably couldn't be said for all the leftist German papers. It still seems pretty unclear what the attack was on.
Was it on a Syrian nuclear facility provided by North Korea?
Was it a Hezbullah missile shipment from Iran?
Was it an Israeli test of the Syrian air defense capability in order to draw up plans for an air attack on Iran's nuclear infastructure?
I'm still on the fence about it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was any of these, but I think I'm leaning toward it being the first because according to Israeli intelligence Syria is setting these up and it has satellite imagery of the supposed structures and the U.S. believes this to be the case too after receiving the information from Israel.
I don't think it's a shipment of weapons to Hezbullah because there have been shipments going to Hezbullah for the past year and a half and before that as well.
Doesn't seem like it's a test of the Syrian air defense because why would they need to bomb something just to test the Syrian air defense capabilities?
THe murdermuslimes are at it again!
In my opinion, this whole story is trying to turning us aside because it's cover somthing much much bigger .
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True
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Yeah, it basically says the same things as the JPost and NYTimes articles. I guess it's good to know that there's no anti-Israel propaganda in the paper, but after all like you said, it's the pro-Israel and pro-America paper, the same thing probably couldn't be said for all the leftist German papers. It still seems pretty unclear what the attack was on.
Was it on a Syrian nuclear facility provided by North Korea?
Was it a Hezbullah missile shipment from Iran?
Was it an Israeli test of the Syrian air defense capability in order to draw up plans for an air attack on Iran's nuclear infastructure?
I'm still on the fence about it, I wouldn't be surprised if it was any of these, but I think I'm leaning toward it being the first because according to Israeli intelligence Syria is setting these up and it has satellite imagery of the supposed structures and the U.S. believes this to be the case too after receiving the information from Israel.
I don't think it's a shipment of weapons to Hezbullah because there have been shipments going to Hezbullah for the past year and a half and before that as well.
Doesn't seem like it's a test of the Syrian air defense because why would they need to bomb something just to test the Syrian air defense capabilities?
THe murdermuslimes are at it again!
I can't answer the questions. But i will monitor the German Press and our Forum. When I have new, i will post them promptly.
This newspaper was foundet by Axel Springer. He is dead, but his widow leads the mediacompany. They have a statement, that every journalist must sign.
There stands, that you must be pro Israel, pro US, pro free economy and pro democracy. If you write against this, you will be fired instantly.
Here is an English-Wiki-Article about Axel Springer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axel_Springer)
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In the late 1960s, Springer was attacked by the leftist student movement for the political opinion
the leftists always do that
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In the late 1960s, Springer was attacked by the leftist student movement for the political opinion
the leftists always do that
They tried to kill a lot of his workers and journalists, because Springer was pro-Israel and pro-America. They attacked his printing plants with bombs, like we know it from our musels, to stop him.
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In the late 1960s, Springer was attacked by the leftist student movement for the political opinion
the leftists always do that
They tried to kill a lot of his workers and journalists, because Springer was pro-Israel and pro-America. They attacked his printing plants with bombs, like we know it from our musels, to stop him.
Yes was that Beider Meinhoff?
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In the late 1960s, Springer was attacked by the leftist student movement for the political opinion
the leftists always do that
They tried to kill a lot of his workers and journalists, because Springer was pro-Israel and pro-America. They attacked his printing plants with bombs, like we know it from our musels, to stop him.
Yes was that Beider Meinhoff?
Yes mord you are right. I have verified it.
Am 19. Mai 1972 verübten Ulrike Meinhof und andere Terroristen der Rote Armee Fraktion einen Bombenanschlag auf das Verlagshaus der Axel Springer AG in Hamburg. Es gab 17 Verletzte. In zwei Privathäusern von Axel Springer kam es im selben Jahr zu Brandanschlägen. Daraufhin wurden die Sicherheitsvorkehrungen in allen Bild-Redaktionen verstärkt.
At 19. May 1972 Ulrike Meinhof and other terrorists of the Red Army fraction make a bomb attack committed on the publishing house house of the Axel Springer AG in Hamburg. There were 17 hurt. In two private houses of Axel Springer came it in the same year to arson attacks. Thereupon safety precautions in all picture editorships were strengthened.
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Yes i thought so :laugh:
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This is bad news.