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Title: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 14, 2007, 06:12:28 PM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 08:10:50 PM
The less the people think for themselves, the easier it is for the government to have more control.
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Post by: newman on September 14, 2007, 08:34:14 PM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?

These signs were NEVER required when our countries were white. It's because of the invasion of human sewage from the third world that we need instructions on how to be a human in public places.
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Post by: Mstislav on September 14, 2007, 08:35:16 PM
It is muslims who need signs like that. They are so filthy.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 09:35:30 PM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?

These signs were NEVER required when our countries were white. It's because of the invasion of human sewage from the third world that we need instructions on how to be a human in public places.
Stuff it Newman. It is common sense to wash your hands when you're done in the restroom, clean up after yourself and turn off the water. That is just plain common sense. It has nothing to do with black or white, just laziness in general.

I see the same signs in resturant restrooms where the manager has to, in writing, remind their employees to properly wash their hands after using the restroom or cleaning a restroom. I've seen it in all white places also, where no blacks hardly live.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 10:08:01 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:09:33 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:14:15 PM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.


The people who need those signs don't know how to read anyway. They should have Ebonics translators in bathrooms that schvartzas frequent. ;D


lol I think you're generalizing a little too much here, Yacov. Everyone who dosen't wash their hands after coming out of the restroom are dirty people.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 10:14:51 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:19:02 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
lol Me too.
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Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 10:24:48 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
lol Me too.

I saw an Asian lady  (Cook ) at a resturant use a frozen fish for a doorstop. I kid you not. :o
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 10:28:30 PM
It props the freezer door open. Instead of having too use a key too open the freezer door every time, she put a frozen fish between the door and the freezer too stop the door from locking.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:30:35 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
lol Me too.

I saw an Asian lady  (Cook ) at a resturant use a frozen fish for a doorstop. I kid you not. :o
I hope you turned around and drove to another resturant. That's just NASTY! I'm no germaphobe but OOOH!  :o My 16 year old has a pet turtle and in order to keep it, she has to wash her hands before and after everytime she handles it. I think she's probably developing OCD ... especially after we told her what germs and diseases turtles and other reptiles carry on their skin, and shells.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:32:28 PM
I don't like bathrooms without soap. So sometimes your hands get dirtier from touching the sink that doesn't have soap then from touching yourself when you go to the bathroom. So in dirty bathrooms with no sinks, I'll just wash my hands when I get to a clean bathroom and be careful not to touch food or put my hands in my mouth.


Me either, I wash my hands in hot water when there is no soap, then I whip out my bottle of antibacterial sanitizer. And just for kicks, Yacov...why would you put your hands in your mouth at all. LOL
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: New Yorker on September 14, 2007, 10:33:56 PM

I love the "No Smoking" sign next to the self serve gas pumps, I think those signs should be removed for the good of the human gene pool. If you're stupid enough to light up a cigarette while pumping gas, you deserve to explode  ;D
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:34:21 PM
What's a door stop?


Its something that keeps a door open. Its SUPPOSED to be a wedge of wood, placed at the bottom of the door. It works a whole lot better than just sticking a frozen trout under the door. That's just retarded.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: mosquewatch on September 14, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
Erica ,

Let's just say, she does not work at that resturant any more. :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 14, 2007, 10:35:06 PM
Erica ,

Let's just say, she does not work at that resturant any more. :)
My hero!
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 02:37:43 AM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 02:55:42 AM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.
No..I think its just common laziness, not really raging against the preverbial machine. It starts with home training. Grown-ups who don't wash their hands now could have benefitted from having a mom or dad who had OCD...people who constantly wash their hands for fear that they'll get germs.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 06:47:21 AM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 15, 2007, 06:49:34 AM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I have.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 06:51:59 AM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I have.
Leonardo DC kept washing his hands until they bled at times!
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 15, 2007, 07:24:21 AM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I have.
Leonardo DC kept washing his hands until they bled at times!

Howard Hughs was a whacko.

See As Good As It Gets with Jack Nicholson. He has OCD and he does that too.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: HiWarp on September 15, 2007, 07:51:05 AM
All the points made on this thread are true but there is another reason for the incessant use of signs that display common sense information.  LAWYERS.  Don't forget that in the U.S. you can sue for anything, including your own stupidity or laziness.

Hot coffee scalded you?  Sue the restaurant that served it.  So coffee cups need to say "HOT".
Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years gave you cancer?  Sue the tobacco company.  So cigarette packs need to say "DANGER".
Severely injure yourself in a car accident because you're too drunk to operate the seat belt?  Sue the automobile manufacturer.  While you're at it sue the liquor company too.  So automobiles need to be placarded with "PULL TO RELEASE" signs and liquor bottles need to say "DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE".
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: MarZutra on September 15, 2007, 08:31:48 AM
All the points made on this thread are true but there is another reason for the incessant use of signs that display common sense information.  LAWYERS.  Don't forget that in the U.S. you can sue for anything, including your own stupidity or laziness.

Hot coffee scalded you?  Sue the restaurant that served it.  So coffee cups need to say "HOT".
Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years gave you cancer?  Sue the tobacco company.  So cigarette packs need to say "DANGER".
Severely injure yourself in a car accident because you're too drunk to operate the seat belt?  Sue the automobile manufacturer.  While you're at it sue the liquor company too.  So automobiles need to be placarded with "PULL TO RELEASE" signs and liquor bottles need to say "DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE".
What can I add?  You are right.... ;)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: cjd on September 15, 2007, 09:08:49 AM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
lol Me too.

I saw an Asian lady  (Cook ) at a resturant use a frozen fish for a doorstop. I kid you not. :o
I was told by someone this week that they had seen a clip on one of the news shows of Chinaman busting up garlic cloves by stamping them on the floor with his shoes on  ???
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: cjd on September 15, 2007, 09:15:54 AM

I love the "No Smoking" sign next to the self serve gas pumps, I think those signs should be removed for the good of the human gene pool. If you're stupid enough to light up a cigarette while pumping gas, you deserve to explode  ;D
Not that anyone should smoke while gassing up but you would be surprised how often its done. Today most fumes are contained between the car and the pump so the risk is even less then it was when that rule was imposed. In an open area it is quite difficult to start a fire by smoking near a pump. There is more of a danger from static electricity causing a spark at he nozzle then from smoking.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: cjd on September 15, 2007, 09:21:08 AM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I have.
Leonardo DC kept washing his hands until they bled at times!

Howard Hughs was a whacko.

See As Good As It Gets with Jack Nicholson. He has OCD and he does that too.
Both very good movies. What happed to Hughs was a sin. All that money and in the end he died like an animal. He became drug addicted to pain killers in real life. I honestly believe that in the end the people managing things for him kept him drugged out so they could do as the pleased with his money. His life is a real eye opener of what to beware of for people with that sort of money.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Potential lawsuits is exactly why all those signs are up instructing people to do what should be obvious.  Lawyers are controlling more and more of society with every moment in time.  They are helping us become a society of idiots.

A person can definitely become too obsessed with hygiene.  My grandmother had an expression designed to be a remedy for such an obsession: she would say that a person has to eat a pound of dirt before they die. 

Also coming to mind is Lady MacBeth, who washed her hands incessantly in her symbolic attempt to wash the blood that were on her hands for all the murders she convinced her husband to commit.  It is when she finally commits suicide over it that King MacBeth makes perhaps the most moving speech in all of Shakespeare.  I would quote it here, except that this note is already going to be fairly substantial.

In any case, the hygienic rules I personally follow is to shower every other day, brush/floss my teeth daily, and wash my hands when I get up in the morning, and once more before I eat dinner.  Sometimes I wash my hands more, such as after people shake my hands.  I mention all this not to provide Too Much Information about myself, but rather as a helpful guideline for people to follow in general.  By the way, it makes no difference what kind of soap one uses, as long as one does use soap, and one's hands are immersed in soap and warm water for at least twenty seconds.

It is so true that often the wrong people seem to have a whole lot of wealth.  I have heard that at least two-thirds of people who win the lottery, go bankrupt within five years.  Then there are all those crazy celebrities, who have all the money in the world, yet act in such a bizarre manner. 

Even putting aside his blatant antisemitism so as to not go off on a tangent, why in the world was Mel Gibson drinking and driving in the first place?  The guy probably has hundreds of millions of dollars; I would think a man that powerful in Hollywood and that rich, would never, ever have to drink even one ounce of heavy liquor.

And what is with this Paris Hilton woman?  Even her name sounds super-rich!  I do not know even one person who has anything but contempt for her.  She is the laughingstock of Hollywood.  I do not think people resent her for her money, as much as for the fact that she is such a media whore, desperately having the need for millions of strangers to constantly see her in various stages of undress.  Maybe I would not mind it nearly as much if she had the kind of face and body worth admiring!

Then there are people like Bill Gates, who seem like perfectly decent, sane human beings who have contributed something substantial to society, yet I cannot figure such people out either.  Last time I checked, Bill Gates has sixty BILLION dollars.  It has been said that he has so much money, that if he were walking down the street and a one hundred dollar bill fell from his pocket, that it would not be worth his time to bend over and pick it up. 

What mystifies me about such a person is, why in the world does he keep on working?  If I would ever take the trouble of buying a lottery ticket and winning, say, four million dollars (I would need that much to retire due to taxes as well as the cost of buying a home), I would never work another day in my life.  That is exactly what happened to philosopher George Santayana: he was in the middle of teaching a philosophy class at some major university, when somebody came into class with a note indicating that the professor had just inherited a large fortune.  Right then and there, without even waiting for that hour of class to finish, he announced his retirement and never worked another day in his life.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 01:38:51 PM
All the points made on this thread are true but there is another reason for the incessant use of signs that display common sense information.  LAWYERS.  Don't forget that in the U.S. you can sue for anything, including your own stupidity or laziness.

Hot coffee scalded you?  Sue the restaurant that served it.  So coffee cups need to say "HOT".
Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years gave you cancer?  Sue the tobacco company.  So cigarette packs need to say "DANGER".
Severely injure yourself in a car accident because you're too drunk to operate the seat belt?  Sue the automobile manufacturer.  While you're at it sue the liquor company too.  So automobiles need to be placarded with "PULL TO RELEASE" signs and liquor bottles need to say "DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE".

Correct! Its absolute pettiness.
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 02:10:33 PM
This is what has happened since 9/11 as well: because so many Jews were saved on 9/11, the antisemites use that as an excuse to blame the Jews for 9/11.  Never mind that so many Jews were late to work because that was the first day of saying the special prayers one says starting a week before the Jewish New Year.  Never mind that all nineteen hijackers were moslem, 16 of whom were from saudi arabia.  Never mind that osama bin ladden has repeatedly and quite proudly claimed responsibility for 9/11.  the antisemites of this world do not care about the facts.  if they cared about the facts, they would not be antisemites.

this is exactly what happened during the days of the bubonic plague as well.  because Jews have the hygienic practice of washing our hands before we eat, our ancestry was spared much of the ravages of the bubonic plague.  so predictably, the antisemites used this as an excuse to blame the Jews for the plague, completely ignoring the facts.  keep in mind that facts to an antisemite is what cryptonite is to superman.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 04:14:49 PM
I also watched a documentry about 9/11 being a so called conspiracy, and it said that Israel had aired a warning on the radio about a supposed threat in New York that day.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 04:46:26 PM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I LOVED that movie.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 04:48:42 PM
All the points made on this thread are true but there is another reason for the incessant use of signs that display common sense information.  LAWYERS.  Don't forget that in the U.S. you can sue for anything, including your own stupidity or laziness.

Hot coffee scalded you?  Sue the restaurant that served it.  So coffee cups need to say "HOT".
Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years gave you cancer?  Sue the tobacco company.  So cigarette packs need to say "DANGER".
Severely injure yourself in a car accident because you're too drunk to operate the seat belt?  Sue the automobile manufacturer.  While you're at it sue the liquor company too.  So automobiles need to be placarded with "PULL TO RELEASE" signs and liquor bottles need to say "DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE".
I agree with that. I remember a case where an elderly woman ordered a coffee from McDonalds then sued the company because it was too hot...AND SHE WON!!!  ??? Boggles the mind.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 04:49:55 PM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))
I guess the days of taking a clove of garlic and smashing them in a garlic press or between the cutting board and a flat butcher's knife are gone, huh? ::)

If I hade a dime for everytime I've seen that, I'd be rich.
lol Me too.

I saw an Asian lady  (Cook ) at a resturant use a frozen fish for a doorstop. I kid you not. :o
I was told by someone this week that they had seen a clip on one of the news shows of Chinaman busting up garlic cloves by stamping them on the floor with his shoes on  ???
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 15, 2007, 04:53:47 PM

I love the "No Smoking" sign next to the self serve gas pumps, I think those signs should be removed for the good of the human gene pool. If you're stupid enough to light up a cigarette while pumping gas, you deserve to explode  ;D
Not that anyone should smoke while gassing up but you would be surprised how often its done. Today most fumes are contained between the car and the pump so the risk is even less then it was when that rule was imposed. In an open area it is quite difficult to start a fire by smoking near a pump. There is more of a danger from static electricity causing a spark at he nozzle then from smoking.
This can also happen if you use electrical devices, such as cell phones. A few years ago, if not 4... I think it was in NY where a man got out of his vehicle at a gas station to pump the gas..WHile he was pumping he decides to use his cell phone and  the gas pump exploded. I always let whoever I'm on the cell with before my husband gets out to pump the gas, know that I'll call them back after we've pumped the gas. lol
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 06:13:00 PM
I do not want to play into all the antisemitic conspiracies about 9/11...however, i have heard that Israel did know about an impending islamofascist attack on America, but did not know exactly when it would happen, or in what form.  Nevertheless, they tried to warn America about this based on what little information they had, but America ignored them.

Stated another way, not only did the Jews not cause 9/11, but actually tried to stop it to the best of their ability.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 15, 2007, 06:32:07 PM

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I do not want to play into all the antisemitic conspiracies about 9/11...however, i have heard that Israel did know about an impending islamofascist attack on America, but did not know exactly when it would happen, or in what form.  Nevertheless, they tried to warn America about this based on what little information they had, but America ignored them.

I actually think thats true. They sent warnings to the public as well.
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Post by: MarZutra on September 15, 2007, 07:09:55 PM
As it turns out, Amercia knew this as well and did nothing....  I think George Tennet had something to do with this oversight.... but could be wrong..
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Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 15, 2007, 08:09:23 PM
I really think this is all Monday-morning quarterbacking, of trying to get a feeling of having more control over events then we actually do.  The simple fact is that the islamofascists caught us completely by surprise, simply because in our wildest dreams we never even contemplate behaving with as much barbarically savage cruelty as the islamofascists constantly do every day of their pathetic lives.
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Post by: MarZutra on September 16, 2007, 09:05:46 AM
I really think this is all Monday-morning quarterbacking, of trying to get a feeling of having more control over events then we actually do.  The simple fact is that the islamofascists caught us completely by surprise, simply because in our wildest dreams we never even contemplate behaving with as much barbarically savage cruelty as the islamofascists constantly do every day of their pathetic lives.
JTB you are correct. As it turns out both America, Israel and probably many other nations including Britian knew a pending attack was coming.  The writing was on the wall.  We can largely thank Jimmy Carter for this.... but sadly one can go back to the days of Jack/Kim Philby and the selling of Arabia by the Rockefellers to King Ibn Saud...sorry to digress.  You are right...

You know, to add onto this, there are a few very good book dealing with this topic.  One, Takebackourtemple and Davkakach relayed to me was particularly the chapter in the book "The UN Gang" surrounding the UN's part in 911.  The chapter details the intimate collaboration between Communist Russia/China/N.Korea/Cuba with the Islamic nations and Islamic "Radical" groups within the UN building itself as well the advanced intelligence gathering aparatus the Communist Nations use the UN, with its protection umbarella as an "International Organization".  The American ex-UN delegate put together a fabulous depiction of what might have happened or where the facts seem to dictate but thanks to the UN's status, it cannot be investigated indepently.

Two other books on "The Dumbing Down" of Society are: "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" by C.T. Iserbyte and "The Underground History of American Educational System" by John T. Gatto.
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Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:37:58 AM
I don't understand the need for signs that say "Wash your hands." in a bathroom.  I know where I work the "Wet floor signs" are in 3 different languages. I'm leaving the race card out of this, I've seen whites, blacks, asians not wash their hands after using the restroom.
Its even more disturbing when you go while visiting a resturant and wash YOUR hand...then see one of the waiters or a waitress, and even the cook come out of the stall and exit the restroom. ((shudders))

That's like the episode of Seinfeld where the chef exits the bathroom without washing his hands. This freaked out Jerry and he refused to eat the food when it came shaking his head "no' like a little kid and offending the daughter of the chef :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:43:17 AM

I love the "No Smoking" sign next to the self serve gas pumps, I think those signs should be removed for the good of the human gene pool. If you're stupid enough to light up a cigarette while pumping gas, you deserve to explode  ;D

That might be true. But the gas station owners also want to prevent their gas stations from exploding as well. Plus, even if these people deserve to explode, the owners still need to have these signs for liability reasons. If it's possible for someone to spill hot coffee on their laps and receive millions for it, then it's also conceivable that the same thing can happen if someone blows themselves up while pumping gas. It's all about CYA. (Cover your ass)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:46:49 AM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.

Umm, since when does washing of ones hands have anything to do with political ideology? It's amazing how so many of you claim that liberals are guilty of generalizing yet make these enormous stretches of logic to try to link up a lack of good habits to political ideology. Astounding!

Not everything in life is connected to political ideology.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?

These signs were NEVER required when our countries were white. It's because of the invasion of human sewage from the third world that we need instructions on how to be a human in public places.

This is a public place. I guess we should provide a sign for you then :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:50:28 AM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?

This reminds me of Carlos Mencia's "Dee dee dee" video which begins with a sign saying "Open 7 days a week, Sundays too."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8swYBQ34QqI
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 10:52:14 AM
Carlos Mencia

Si, senor.  Me gusta mucho burritos y tacos.  Si.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:52:36 AM
It is muslims who need signs like that. They are so filthy.

So according to this logic, Sarah must have stunk to high heaven until she converted from Islam :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 16, 2007, 12:49:12 PM
It is muslims who need signs like that. They are so filthy.

So according to this logic, Sarah must have stunk to high heaven until she converted from Islam :)

Oh Thanks a lot! :laugh:

Btw I never converted to anything.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 01:48:04 PM
It may seem like a lack of hygiene is not related to political ideology, but these days, just about everything has become political.  One can no longer say Merry Christmas out of fear of offending the less than 10% of America that is not Christian.  A man can no longer compliment a woman's looks, out of fear of being accused of sexual harassment.  One cannot make the claim that America or the Jews are superior to any other culture or people, out of fear of being accused of I guess jingoism or some other subtle form of bigotry.  In fact, thanks to Al Bore and his global warming nonsense, we cannot even talk about the weather anymore, without it being controversial.

In short, the liberals have made our present society so thoroughly politically correct, that a free-flowing dialogue of varying opinions have been effectively shut down.  One is only allowed freedom of speech, if one goes along with liberal ideology.  The moment one rejects that in favor of good, old-fashioned conservative values, they are censored, shut down, labeled as engaging in hate speech, and otherwise vilified and margainlized in our society.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 16, 2007, 09:15:27 PM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.

Umm, since when does washing of ones hands have anything to do with political ideology? It's amazing how so many of you claim that liberals are guilty of generalizing yet make these enormous stretches of logic to try to link up a lack of good habits to political ideology. Astounding!

Not everything in life is connected to political ideology.
I think they say things like that because they get to use 'big' words. lol
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 16, 2007, 09:16:13 PM
Everyday, we're told what to do by various instructions or signs around us, when quite frankly its what should be done logically and morally. For example, the other day I stepped into a public bathroom, to straight away come across, signs telling me to "flush the toilet", "turn off the taps" and throw away my litter. Have people  reached the extent where they cannot think for themselves and have to constantly follow basic instructions everywhere they go.
I reckon this contributes to the dumbing down of society, along with the lack of discipline enforced in schools, the work place etc....What do you think?

This reminds me of Carlos Mencia's "Dee dee dee" video which begins with a sign saying "Open 7 days a week, Sundays too."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8swYBQ34QqI

Carlos Mencia is one of my favorite Chicano comics!
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Joe Schmo on September 16, 2007, 09:17:07 PM
Carlos Mencia is one of my favorite Chicano comics!

What the hell is a chicano?
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 09:26:18 PM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.

Umm, since when does washing of ones hands have anything to do with political ideology?
 
It's because liberals are facsists who believe evrybody in society needs to be told what to do by their (liberal) 'betters'.(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/27348/2003735237995243828_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003735237995243828)

Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Erica on September 16, 2007, 09:29:16 PM
Carlos Mencia is one of my favorite Chicano comics!

What the hell is a chicano?
Its another word for Hispanic, Scriabin. Only in a male tense. The Female tense would be "Chicana".
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 09:30:00 PM
It is muslims who need signs like that. They are so filthy.

So according to this logic, Sarah must have stunk to high heaven until she converted from Islam :)
Listen you sniveling liberal, Sarah is a sweet little English girl who just happened to be born into a muslim family. She rebels against the evil aspects of islam. Don't lump her in with third world animals!!! >:(
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Hail Columbia on September 16, 2007, 09:38:07 PM
Carlos Mencia is one of my favorite Chicano comics!

What the hell is a chicano?
Its another word for Hispanic, Scriabin. Only in a male tense. The Female tense would be "Chicana".

The hell if it is.  Chicano is another word for mestizo, particularly the mestizos from Mexico and Central America.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 09:53:19 PM
That Limosine Liberal magazine that somebody posted is very, very funny, lol  :laugh:

Now that you mention Sarah, I have been wondering about her.  She is a moslem, but is she one of those rare good moslems?  Can she be trusted?  Might she even be talked out of being a moslem altogether?  She definitely does not sound anything like anybody out of CAIR.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 09:55:53 PM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.

Umm, since when does washing of ones hands have anything to do with political ideology? It's amazing how so many of you claim that liberals are guilty of generalizing yet make these enormous stretches of logic to try to link up a lack of good habits to political ideology. Astounding!

Not everything in life is connected to political ideology.
I think they say things like that because they get to use 'big' words. lol

They say that because they like to blame everything and anything negative on blacks and liberals.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 09:56:36 PM
It is muslims who need signs like that. They are so filthy.

So according to this logic, Sarah must have stunk to high heaven until she converted from Islam :)

Oh Thanks a lot! :laugh:

Btw I never converted to anything.

True, but you no longer identify as a muslim anymore, right?
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 09:59:33 PM
As it turns out, Amercia knew this as well and did nothing....  I think George Tennet had something to do with this oversight.... but could be wrong..

There's a whole bunch of things that went wrong. I just saw the 9/11 commission DVD a couple of weeks ago and it gives lots of info on all of the intelligence failures. George Tennet is one factor. Another big factor is the failure of the FAA and NORAD communicating with each other effectively while the attacks were taking place.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:04:35 PM
Speaking of blaming everything on the Blacks and the liberals, let me expand that group to include islamofascists and gay homos as well.  Then that pretty much covers it.
Title: Re: The Dubyaing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:08:15 PM
All the points made on this thread are true but there is another reason for the incessant use of signs that display common sense information.  LAWYERS.  Don't forget that in the U.S. you can sue for anything, including your own stupidity or laziness.

Hot coffee scalded you?  Sue the restaurant that served it.  So coffee cups need to say "HOT".
Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day for 40 years gave you cancer?  Sue the tobacco company.  So cigarette packs need to say "DANGER".
Severely injure yourself in a car accident because you're too drunk to operate the seat belt?  Sue the automobile manufacturer.  While you're at it sue the liquor company too.  So automobiles need to be placarded with "PULL TO RELEASE" signs and liquor bottles need to say "DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE".

This is very true. Even for the most obvious things, businesses need to do whatever they can to cover themselves from potential lawsuits. There was actually a lady who won a multi-million dollar lawsuit when she put McDonalds coffee between her legs while she was driving and ended up scalding herself with it. Seinfeld did a takeoff on this when Kramer did a cup of coffee in his pocket to sneak it in the theatre and ended up burning himself and sued the company with the Johny Cochran type lawyer.

How about for Ambien and other rx sleep aids which state, "may cause drowsiness"? Shucks. I really hate those odds!
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:09:52 PM
Has anyone here watched the Aviator?

I have.
Leonardo DC kept washing his hands until they bled at times!

Howard Hughs was a whacko.

See As Good As It Gets with Jack Nicholson. He has OCD and he does that too.
Both very good movies. What happed to Hughs was a sin. All that money and in the end he died like an animal. He became drug addicted to pain killers in real life. I honestly believe that in the end the people managing things for him kept him drugged out so they could do as the pleased with his money. His life is a real eye opener of what to beware of for people with that sort of money.

Howard Hughes might have been treated successfully with Luvox and cognitive-behavior therapy.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:14:04 PM
It may seem like a lack of hygiene is not related to political ideology, but these days, just about everything has become political.  One can no longer say Merry Christmas out of fear of offending the less than 10% of America that is not Christian.  A man can no longer compliment a woman's looks, out of fear of being accused of sexual harassment.  One cannot make the claim that America or the Jews are superior to any other culture or people, out of fear of being accused of I guess jingoism or some other subtle form of bigotry.  In fact, thanks to Al Bore and his global warming nonsense, we cannot even talk about the weather anymore, without it being controversial.

In short, the liberals have made our present society so thoroughly politically correct, that a free-flowing dialogue of varying opinions have been effectively shut down.  One is only allowed freedom of speech, if one goes along with liberal ideology.  The moment one rejects that in favor of good, old-fashioned conservative values, they are censored, shut down, labeled as engaging in hate speech, and otherwise vilified and margainlized in our society.

I disagree with this assessment. This type of closeminded behavior is more commonly found around conservatives than liberals. Liberalism is about being openminded to listening to and debating different viewpoints. If liberals are actually engaging in what you claim they do, then liberalism has now become the new conservatism. Strange paradox there  ???
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:16:28 PM
I think that Erica is quite right when she says that following common sense rules of hygiene has little or nothing to do with one's skin color.

I think it has to do more with the triumph of liberalism in our society.  Liberalism involves fighting against the rules, of rebelling against The Man and so forth.  Some rebellion against authority can be a good thing, but not when it is applied to the laws of nature.  It is not exactly a great idea to rebel against the rules of hygiene.   In fact, it can be deadly, as was the case with the outbreak of bubonic plague back in the middle ages.

Umm, since when does washing of ones hands have anything to do with political ideology?
 
It's because liberals are facsists who believe evrybody in society needs to be told what to do by their (liberal) 'betters'.(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/27348/2003735237995243828_rs.jpg) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003735237995243828)



Liberalism is the exact opposite of this. It's because of liberalism that you are allowed to say the things you do on here. If the conservatives ruled, you'd be banned and censored for saying what you do.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 10:17:24 PM
It may seem like a lack of hygiene is not related to political ideology, but these days, just about everything has become political.  One can no longer say Merry Christmas out of fear of offending the less than 10% of America that is not Christian.  A man can no longer compliment a woman's looks, out of fear of being accused of sexual harassment.  One cannot make the claim that America or the Jews are superior to any other culture or people, out of fear of being accused of I guess jingoism or some other subtle form of bigotry.  In fact, thanks to Al Bore and his global warming nonsense, we cannot even talk about the weather anymore, without it being controversial.

In short, the liberals have made our present society so thoroughly politically correct, that a free-flowing dialogue of varying opinions have been effectively shut down.  One is only allowed freedom of speech, if one goes along with liberal ideology.  The moment one rejects that in favor of good, old-fashioned conservative values, they are censored, shut down, labeled as engaging in hate speech, and otherwise vilified and margainlized in our society.

I disagree with this assessment. This type of closeminded behavior is more commonly found around conservatives than liberals. Liberalism is about being openminded to listening to and debating different viewpoints. If liberals are actually engaging in what you claim they do, then liberalism has now become the new conservatism. Strange paradox there  ???
No.

Liberalism is just Orwellian facsism. It's just that the boot stomping on the human face for eternity can brag about providing universal healthcare (badly run and expensive) to the face.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:18:10 PM
But that is my whole point.  One of the reasons why I became a political conservative in the first place, is because I noticed time and time again that liberals claim to be for tolerance, but are really only for tolerance toward other liberal views, while advocating censorship for those who are politically conservative.  When political conservatives are closed-minded, at least they never pretended to be otherwise.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 10:19:48 PM


Liberalism is the exact opposite of this. It's because of liberalism that you are allowed to say the things you do on here. If the conservatives ruled, you'd be banned and censored for saying what you do.
BWAAAHHHHAAAAHHHHAAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah right!

And the KKK is "just about white pride", too. :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:20:04 PM
Speaking of blaming everything on the Blacks and the liberals, let me expand that group to include islamofascists and gay homos as well.  Then that pretty much covers it.

Okay, sounds simple enough. So the next time I'm stuck in a traffic jam, get the flu, or get a cramp in my leg, I'll just blame it on the blacks, liberals, islamofascists and homos. I'll just make sure not to blame it on the Zionists like the rest of the world does :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Daniel on September 16, 2007, 10:21:58 PM
But that is my whole point.  One of the reasons why I became a political conservative in the first place, is because I noticed time and time again that liberals claim to be for tolerance, but are really only for tolerance toward other liberal views, while advocating censorship for those who are politically conservative.  When political conservatives are closed-minded, at least they never pretended to be otherwise.

What you are describing is not true liberalism then. It's hypocrisy. I certainly don't agree with that type of mentality. I believe in tolerating all viewpoints, including those of intolerance.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:26:55 PM
But once again, that is my whole point!  Sometimes I do think that American political conservatism is really classical liberalism, while today's liberalism, is really totalitarianism disguising itself as alleged tolerance.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: newman on September 16, 2007, 10:27:33 PM
But that is my whole point.  One of the reasons why I became a political conservative in the first place, is because I noticed time and time again that liberals claim to be for tolerance, but are really only for tolerance toward other liberal views, while advocating censorship for those who are politically conservative.  When political conservatives are closed-minded, at least they never pretended to be otherwise.

What you are describing is not true liberalism then. It's hypocrisy. I certainly don't agree with that type of mentality. I believe in tolerating all viewpoints, including those of intolerance.

What a cop-out!

Muslims claim the failed muslim countries aren't 'true islam'.

Communists claim the failed communist experiment of the USSR wasn't 'true communism'.

Now we've got a liberal claiming that the liberal politics of today isn't 'true liberalism'.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 10:33:17 PM
newman, you are one very funny human being.  and you make a good point, too. :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 11:23:30 PM
Very well said.  Also, I had not known that about Zev Jabotinsky, but it is nice to find that out about him.  :)
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 16, 2007, 11:29:43 PM
But one cannot be a moslem and a Noachide at the same time. 

One of the seven laws of Noah is to not murder, but in islam, murdering is considered the holiest act one can engage in. 

Another of the seven laws of Noah says to not worship any other G-d but G-d, yet the moslems worship allah, who is satan.

Still another of the seven laws of Noah says to not steal, yet the moslems are going around the world stealing people's land.

Still another of the seven laws of Noah forbid incest/adultery/homosexuality/bestiality, yet moslem men prefer to have sex with their camels rather than with women.

These are just some of the reasons why one cannot be a moslem and a Noachide at the same time.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: MarZutra on September 17, 2007, 12:00:10 AM
Good post... 
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: JewishTeddyBear on September 17, 2007, 12:10:42 AM
Finally somebody is happy with one of my posts!  ;D
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2007, 05:13:39 PM
But one cannot be a moslem and a Noachide at the same time. 

One of the seven laws of Noah is to not murder, but in islam, murdering is considered the holiest act one can engage in. 

Another of the seven laws of Noah says to not worship any other G-d but G-d, yet the moslems worship allah, who is satan.

Still another of the seven laws of Noah says to not steal, yet the moslems are going around the world stealing people's land.

Still another of the seven laws of Noah forbid incest/adultery/homosexuality/bestiality, yet moslem men prefer to have sex with their camels rather than with women.

These are just some of the reasons why one cannot be a moslem and a Noachide at the same time.

JTB that is not true!!
A lot of teachings from the Torah are the same in Islam for murder, all sexual immorality and stealing. You cannot by any measure disagree with that because its written as hard facts in the Quran that all these things are evil, pure evil. The muslims that do, carry out these things ARE evil and a large percentage do but I promise you that murder is not one of the holiest things a muslim can do and homosexuality is stated as an "abomination" in the Quran, just as it is in the Torah.
Ben-Alan, said that a verse I quoted from the Quran about the murder of one man being like murder of the whole of mankind, was plagiarised, even if it was the belief is still the same.
As for the Worshipping of Allah, they believe its God not satan JTB. My parents don't worship the devil.

I don't want to be so defensive about Islam but when you say things that are NOT true, and I know they're not but you can believe what you want, then i write these  things.

Does the term Liberal have some connection with being rather secular, in todays society? Because some people believe that religion itself is a restriction and controversial.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: decimos on September 17, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Whilst i respect you Sarah,I feel obliged to point a few inconsitancies with the mohamed,
1st.This is because the beliefs and values which the Koran expresses are inherently evil and hateful and spiteful. The Koran describes Allah as a capricious being who damns and blesses whoever he feels like, and intentionally deceives the majority of "unbelievers", stopping their ears, blinding their eyes, MOCKING THEM, and consigning them to eternal torture with no hope of reform, while the righteous slop like pigs at a trough in a paradise of rivers of wine, and unlimited sexual pleasures with supernatural Houri virgins.
2nd.Koran 9:29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when followers of other religions are humiliated.
Title: Re: The Dumbing Down of Society.......
Post by: Sarah on September 17, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
Whilst i respect you Sarah,I feel obliged to point a few inconsitancies with the mohamed,
1st.This is because the beliefs and values which the Koran expresses are inherently evil and hateful and spiteful. The Koran describes Allah as a capricious being who damns and blesses whoever he feels like, and intentionally deceives the majority of "unbelievers", stopping their ears, blinding their eyes, MOCKING THEM, and consigning them to eternal torture with no hope of reform, while the righteous slop like pigs at a trough in a paradise of rivers of wine, and unlimited sexual pleasures with supernatural Houri virgins.
2nd.Koran 9:29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith (Islam) till they pay the jiziya (poll tax) with the hand of humility.

So here Prophet Mohammed is instructing a true Muslim to fight people of other religions until the unbelievers debase themselves and pay tax for their existence. So the greatness of Islam is revealed only when followers of other religions are humiliated.

Yeah I know Decimo, thanks.