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Cities cracking down on saggy pants
By MATTHEW VERRINDER, Associated Press Writer Sun Sep 16, 2:35 PM ET
TRENTON, N.J. - It's a fashion that started in prison, and now the saggy pants craze has come full circle — low-slung street strutting in some cities may soon mean run-ins with the law, including a stint in jail.
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Proposals to ban saggy pants are starting to ride up in several places. At the extreme end, wearing pants low enough to show boxers or bare buttocks in one small Louisiana town means six months in jail and a $500 fine. A crackdown also is being pushed in Atlanta. And in Trenton, getting caught with your pants down may soon result in not only a fine, but a city worker assessing where your life is headed.
"Are they employed? Do they have a high school diploma? It's a wonderful way to redirect at that point," said Trenton Councilwoman Annette Lartigue, who is drafting a law to outlaw saggy pants. "The message is clear: We don't want to see your backside."
The bare-your-britches fashion is believed to have started in prisons, where inmates aren't given belts with their baggy uniform pants to prevent hangings and beatings. By the late 80s, the trend had made it to gangster rap videos, then went on to skateboarders in the suburbs and high school hallways.
"For young people, it's a form of rebellion and identity," Adrian "Easy A.D." Harris, 43, a founding member of the Bronx's legendary rap group Cold Crush Brothers. "The young people think it's fashionable. They don't think it's negative."
But for those who want to stop them see it as an indecent, sloppy trend that is a bad influence on children.
"It has the potential to catch on with elementary school kids, and we want to stop it before it gets there," said C.T. Martin, an Atlanta councilman. "Teachers have raised questions about what a distraction it is."
In Atlanta, a law has been introduced to ban sagging and punishment could include small fines or community work — but no jail time, Martin said.
The penalty is stiffer in Delcambre, La., where in June the town council passed an ordinance that carries a fine of up to $500 or six months in jail for exposing underwear in public. Several other municipalities and parish governments in Louisiana have enacted similar laws in recent months.
At Trenton hip-hop clothing store Razor Sharp Clothing Shop 4 Ballers, shopper Mark Wise, 30, said his jeans sag for practical reasons.
"The reason I don't wear tight pants is because it's easier to get money out of my pocket this way," Wise said. "It's just more comfortable."
Shop owner Mack Murray said Trenton's proposed ordinance unfairly targets blacks.
"Are they going to go after construction workers and plumbers, because their pants sag, too?" Murray asked. "They're stereotyping us."
The American Civil Liberties Union agrees.
"In Atlanta, we see this as racial profiling," said Benetta Standly, statewide organizer for the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia. "It's going to target African-American male youths. There's a fear with people associating the way you dress with crimes being committed."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070916/ap_on_fe_st/saggy_britches
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The politicians missed the point, we want them to crack down on the Shvartzas themselves, not what the Shvartza wears!
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What's needed now is law against bsesball caps backward.
While they're at it, how about a law banning possession of fuzzy hair and big lips?............Ah, to hell with it! Just ban schvartzas instead!
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I like this law.
Can't wait until they implement it in NYC.
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This is great! They should do this here in Missouri- we don't have blacks who do this( because blacks where I live are non-existant) but a few of the white folks love to walk around looking like inner city hoodlums. Idiots. Then of course they wonder why cops are all over them!
This should a nation wide law- if they want to dress like that they can go pollute another country.
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I've been to Missouri once for a few hours and met this Jewish girl at a medical school interview. Never saw any other Jew there. How many Jews are in Missouri?
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At Trenton hip-hop clothing store Razor Sharp Clothing Shop 4 Ballers lol
That store should probably be outlawed as well
"The reason I don't wear tight pants is because it's easier to get money out of my pocket this way," Wise said. "It's just more comfortable."
More like: "The reason I don't wear tight pants is because it's easier to get other people's money and goods into my pocket this way"
The fact that people think this is targeting blacks is ridiculous. Do you not get it numbskulls, it's what you DO, not who you ARE.
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The baggy pants are also used for stashing concealed weapons, aren't they?
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The baggy pants are also used for stashing concealed weapons, aren't they?
Absolutely, and drugs.
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The baggy pants are also used for stashing concealed weapons, aren't they?
Absolutely, and drugs.
I bet Erica or Daniel the liberal get on here and claim the baggy pants are for carrying the hymn books & bibles for Sunday school or for hiding money collected for the widows & orphans. :laugh:
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It's about time we start destroying some of this rubbish "urban culture." We're responsible for letting blacks establish this poor excuse for a culture. They don't have a culture in Africa beyond rape and eating their own stool, so they settled for this. Both of them are equally unattractive.
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It's about time we start destroying some of this rubbish "urban culture." We're responsible for letting blacks establish this poor excuse for a culture. They don't have a culture in Africa beyond rape and eating their own stool, so they settled for this. Both of them are equally unattractive.
But they're the 'advanced african civilisation' who 'invented all the science & technology' according to affirmative action 'professors'.
:laugh: :laugh:
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It's about time we start destroying some of this rubbish "urban culture." We're responsible for letting blacks establish this poor excuse for a culture. They don't have a culture in Africa beyond rape and eating their own stool, so they settled for this. Both of them are equally unattractive.
But they're the 'advanced african civilisation' who 'invented all the science & technology' according to affirmative action 'professors'.
:laugh: :laugh:
Well, Africans are probably the first humans to serve stool as an entree, and the first to construct their dwellings from their wastes. I firmly believe Africans have come up with more uses for excrement than any other entity walking this Earth. Now, that's technology. Geez, we better surrender the whole country to such revolutionary geniuses. Oh wait, we pretty much have.
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It's about time we start destroying some of this rubbish "urban culture." We're responsible for letting blacks establish this poor excuse for a culture. They don't have a culture in Africa beyond rape and eating their own stool, so they settled for this. Both of them are equally unattractive.
But they're the 'advanced african civilisation' who 'invented all the science & technology' according to affirmative action 'professors'.
:laugh: :laugh:
Well, Africans are probably the first humans to serve stool as an entree, and the first to construct their dwellings from their wastes. I firmly believe Africans have come up with more uses for excrement than any other entity walking this Earth. Now, that's technology.
Don't forget AIDS, face flies and 'necklacing' (that's where they put a car tyre filled with gasoline 'round somebody's neck & set it on fire).
............whoops! They didn't invent tyres or gas so that last one doesn't count.
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I've been to Missouri once for a few hours and met this Jewish girl at a medical school interview. Never saw any other Jew there. How many Jews are in Missouri?
Depends on what part of Missouri. I know rural Missouri policeman and farmers in rural towns but for the most part the Jewish population here in Missouri is in St.Louis whose Jewish population in the well to do neighborhoods is quite sizeable.
I don't know an exact number. Most of the synagogues outside of the city are reform/conservative and everyone from orthodox to reconstuctionist goes to the same synagogue. Jews certainly aren't unheard of here.
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Kick out the melangianas.. that will solve half of this country's problems.