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Title: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Chiram on January 13, 2017, 02:51:56 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/12/steve-bannon-knew-about-marine-le-pen-s-trump-tower-party-organizer-claims.html
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 14, 2017, 11:18:47 AM
Le Pen is a fantastic women.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Chiram on January 14, 2017, 04:36:39 PM
The National Front Party and their supporters are a mob united by a common hatred of Jews.

The video at the end of the article is interesting, Trump's buddy Guido Lombardi sounds like a spokesman for Opus Dei.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Zelhar on January 14, 2017, 06:17:27 PM
Maybe they can still be useful, if not out of love for Mordechai than out of hate for Haman.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 14, 2017, 07:06:10 PM
Maybe they can still be useful, if not out of love for Mordechai than out of hate for Haman.
It never works that way with Nazis.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Israel Chai on January 14, 2017, 07:55:50 PM
Maybe they can still be useful, if not out of love for Mordechai than out of hate for Haman.


LePen makes time to attack Israel even when she attacks Muslims. Jew-haters with power are always bad, even when they hate other Jew-haters.

The French Ron/Rand Paul gang are much worse than their American counter parts, but you have to be even dumber to think they are different.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 14, 2017, 08:08:01 PM
It never works that way with Nazis.

What Nazi's?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Israel Chai on January 15, 2017, 01:08:50 AM
What Nazi's?

LePen's father is an open holocaust-denying Nazi, and she pretends she's not like her father like Rand Paul pretends he's different than Ron Paul. She wants Israel to give land to terrorists and for muslims to kill Jews. She's not against muslims killing, she'd just rather they take out the Jews before the French.

The enemy of my enemy isn't my friend if he was my enemy first, promoting her is bad.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Zelhar on January 15, 2017, 03:01:08 AM
What makes you think LePen is worse than the establishment parties in France which have a long record of being very anti-Israel and are responsible for filling France with millions of islamonazis?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 15, 2017, 03:19:59 AM
LePen's father is an open holocaust-denying Nazi, and she pretends she's not like her father like Rand Paul pretends he's different than Ron Paul. She wants Israel to give land to terrorists and for muslims to kill Jews. She's not against muslims killing, she'd just rather they take out the Jews before the French.

The enemy of my enemy isn't my friend if he was my enemy first, promoting her is bad.

Proof og LePen willing to let Jews be killed?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Ulli on January 15, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
Le Pen has no answer to the problems of France, which are regulations, big gouvernement, high spendings, high taxes, high debts and the loosing of biblical norms. She thinks if France is leaving the EU and is practizing a strict immigration reimmigration politic everything can continue like before.

She is a national socialist.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 15, 2017, 03:33:17 PM
Le Pen has no answer to the problems of France, which are regulations, big gouvernement, high spendings, high taxes, high debts and the loosing of biblical norms. She thinks if France is leaving the EU and is practizing a strict immigration reimmigration politic everything can continue like before.

She is a national socialist.

Tell me why she is a national socialist and what part of her agenda is national socialist?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Israel Chai on January 15, 2017, 09:34:46 PM
Tell me why she is a national socialist and what part of her agenda is national socialist?

Do you know anything about her father?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on January 16, 2017, 01:12:48 AM
LePen makes time to attack Israel even when she attacks Muslims.

That sounds exactly like the alt-right people.   She was their true messiah but they got Trump instead.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Ulli on January 16, 2017, 01:19:30 AM
Tell me why she is a national socialist and what part of her agenda is national socialist?

I found this article here. I think it explaines it well.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/12/two-socialist-triumphs-one-of-them-for-marine-le-pen/

Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 16, 2017, 05:29:53 AM
Do you know anything about her father?

Yes. Show what makes her a National Socialist? So if your father was a leftwing Jew or a Communist Jew does that makes you one? Just an example.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Zelhar on January 16, 2017, 06:01:53 AM
If your father founded a certain party and you are the designated successor of the same party then yes, you can't just ignore the family history.
Yes. Show what makes her a National Socialist? So if your father was a leftwing Jew or a Communist Jew does that makes you one? Just an example.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 16, 2017, 07:52:52 AM
If your father founded a certain party and you are the designated successor of the same party then yes, you can't just ignore the family history.

No. You can't ignore. But what points make Marine Le Pen a National Socialist?
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Israel Chai on January 16, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
No. You can't ignore. But what points make Marine Le Pen a National Socialist?

She's phony nationalist (Rubystars explained fake Nazi nationalism brilliantly a few years back) and socialist.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Nevski on January 16, 2017, 10:56:25 AM
She's phony nationalist (Rubystars explained fake Nazi nationalism brilliantly a few years back) and socialist.

Ok. So why is she a National Socialist? What are the similarities between FN and the NSDAP? Even more important: What are the similarities between the NSDAP agenda and the FN's agenda? And what are the similarities between Adolf Hitler and Marine Le Pen? Very easy to shout 'nazi' but you don't know why.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: syyuge on January 17, 2017, 10:03:08 AM
Although not acceptable, she is better than all other contemporary french politicians.
Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Israel Chai on January 17, 2017, 10:46:15 PM
Ok. So why is she a National Socialist? What are the similarities between FN and the NSDAP? Even more important: What are the similarities between the NSDAP agenda and the FN's agenda? And what are the similarities between Adolf Hitler and Marine Le Pen? Very easy to shout 'nazi' but you don't know why.

Fake nationalism + socialism = national socialism.

I don't know what the NSDAP is, the FN is the Front Nationale.

There is a Nazi party currently in Greece called the golden dawn. If you are able to answer your own questions changed from FN to GD about them, then I'll answer, if not, these are fake questions and you're just saying they're not Nazis.

Her father is an outright holocaust-denying Nazis who blames Jews for all troubles, she seems to advocate a change in pace, but it shows that it's phony every now and then, like her attacking Israel while pretending to attack Arabs.

Although not acceptable, she is better than all other contemporary french politicians.

Agreed.

Title: Re: Le Pen goes to Trump Tower
Post by: Zelhar on January 18, 2017, 03:30:46 AM
@Israel Chai: NSDAP = "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" that's the original name of the Nazi party.

I also think like you that Ulli meant the FN politics literally revolves around nationalism (in a dumb chauvinistic way) and socialism. Not that they are the equivalent of the Nazi party in France, although it is a fact that Jean Mary Le Pen is in fact a sympathizers of Nazism.