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Title: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on September 19, 2007, 05:39:19 PM
South Africa is also home to around 20 000 Serbs mainly living in the Johannesburg area.South Africa is also voicing support for Serbia over the Kosovo issue.
Thank you for this.

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Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Jo Shmoe on September 24, 2007, 04:44:41 AM
The Serbia issue is one that South Africans are well advised to study, for the propganda issues around and against the Serbs are a blue print for the propaganda that the Afrikaaner will face in coming race wars.

From the limited knowledge we have of the Serbs, it seems that the Serbs were acting in self defence against the Muslims and the world condemned them for this.

We already see shades of this in acts of crime. Black man attacks white man. White man shoots in self defence and white man is charged with murder and paraded as a violent racist.

The same will happen to us. Should the blacks attack us and we retaliate in self defence, we could very well likely end up as the Serbs did where we are painted out to be violent racists while the black savage will be portrayed as a noble warrior fighting to liberate themselves from "evil" whites. The whole world will be against us as they were against the Serbs. Bill Klinton bombed them. The same will happen here in SA should a barak obama/Hillary Klinton get voted into power in the USA.

At the very least, take 1 hour out of your life to read and research what the white Serbs have to say...

I am interested to know what kind of Serbs left for SA. Was it the weak and elderly? Was it fighting men and women aged 18-35?

We should really begin to think up of ways in which we can team up with some tough [censored] Serbs to fight this ethnic cleansing of whites. Whites are on the retreat everywhere on the planet. We need to make a stand somewhere.



Cheers.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Jo Shmoe on September 24, 2007, 04:46:56 AM
Oh and by the way, I live near this Serb church. It is a few blocks from where I live.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on September 30, 2007, 04:22:51 PM
The Serbia issue is one that South Africans are well advised to study, for the propganda issues around and against the Serbs are a blue print for the propaganda that the Afrikaaner will face in coming race wars.

From the limited knowledge we have of the Serbs, it seems that the Serbs were acting in self defence against the Muslims and the world condemned them for this.

We already see shades of this in acts of crime. Black man attacks white man. White man shoots in self defence and white man is charged with murder and paraded as a violent racist.

The same will happen to us. Should the blacks attack us and we retaliate in self defence, we could very well likely end up as the Serbs did where we are painted out to be violent racists while the black savage will be portrayed as a noble warrior fighting to liberate themselves from "evil" whites. The whole world will be against us as they were against the Serbs. Bill Klinton bombed them. The same will happen here in SA should a barak obama/Hillary Klinton get voted into power in the USA.

At the very least, take 1 hour out of your life to read and research what the white Serbs have to say...

I am interested to know what kind of Serbs left for SA. Was it the weak and elderly? Was it fighting men and women aged 18-35?

We should really begin to think up of ways in which we can team up with some tough donkey Serbs to fight this ethnic cleansing of whites. Whites are on the retreat everywhere on the planet. We need to make a stand somewhere.



Cheers.

Many well educated Serbs emigrated for SA. I think SA whites need to join forces with the heroic Serbs.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: ash on October 15, 2007, 10:07:52 PM
I am so ashamed that my country has trashed Serbia, to support a muslim satanic worthless people who can't even tell their right hand from their left, and it is my opinon that even though Milesovic was nuts, I truely believe he was murderd in prison, and at the time I thought we had started world war 3 when we got envolved in that mess. I hope for the best of Serbia, but to destroy nations who are practicle seem to be the practise of the day, the world sure does suck big time.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on October 16, 2007, 04:15:29 PM
I am so ashamed that my country has trashed Serbia, to support a muslim satanic worthless people who can't even tell their right hand from their left, and it is my opinon that even though Milesovic was nuts, I truely believe he was murderd in prison, and at the time I thought we had started world war 3 when we got envolved in that mess. I hope for the best of Serbia, but to destroy nations who are practicle seem to be the practise of the day, the world sure does suck big time.
Yes he was, you are right. He called Clinton to testify and died soon after >:( They wanted to blame him for the war but Croats and Muslims were the ones who started war. Not many people know that long before war took its place Muslims in a village of Sijekovac killed 60 Serbs and burned their church. It was in Mart of 1992. :'(
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on October 17, 2007, 11:28:31 AM
As a Boer, im delighted that our friendship with the Serbians are at high levels.

The Serbs have the support and sympathy of the Boers  :)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Wayne Jude on October 17, 2007, 11:31:03 AM
South Africa was Israels best ally.The blacks there don't care about themselves! ::)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AussieJTFer on October 18, 2007, 08:45:36 AM
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South Africa was Israels best ally.The blacks there don't care about themselves!

True, Israel was one of the few nations on earth that had trade relations with South Africa. Now the South African leadership are some of the most anti-Israel on earth. Is it a coincedence that the UN, anti-Israel hatefest took place in Durban a few years ago?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on October 27, 2007, 10:44:00 PM
I think that SA white people should be free. There are the best Serbian allies on African continent and this new formed Boer country would be good partner in all aspects O0 ;D
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Husar on November 01, 2007, 09:39:36 PM
Let's make an Alliance
between us,
Serbs, Jews and Boers.

 8;)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 05, 2007, 06:38:12 AM
Let's make an Alliance
between us,
Serbs, Jews and Boers.

 8;)

Im all fir it

Once we secure South Africa, you will be the first to receive tons and tons of weapons and advisors. ;)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: crazyhorse on November 13, 2007, 04:24:12 PM
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South Africa was Israels best ally.The blacks there don't care about themselves!

True, Israel was one of the few nations on earth that had trade relations with South Africa. Now the South African leadership are some of the most anti-Israel on earth. Is it a coincedence that the UN, anti-Israel hatefest took place in Durban a few years ago?


Yes, South Africa also had trade and other ties with Taiwan who are about to be taken over by communist China. The minute the black terrorists took the reins in South Africa, they dumped Taiwan like a hot cake. I'm just thankful that South Africa agreed to and destroyed their atomic arsenal before the kaffirs took control......can you imagine a few nukes in the hands of those crazy black bastards?............ hell, the Palestinians would have had them in a flash.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 13, 2007, 08:46:48 PM
Yes, that's right :-\

We also helped South Korea out, sending pilots there to help fight communism.
Yet, the s. Koreans eventually veto's South Africa  >:(

Yes, we and the Israeli's worked on some amazing projects together! Including our nuclear weapons.

Thank  YOU, Israel
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on November 15, 2007, 06:23:05 PM
serbs support their boer friends O0 O0
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Husar on November 16, 2007, 10:04:23 AM
Hip Hip Hip Hurray !!!
For our Boergeneraal !!!

 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 17, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
Hip Hip Hip Hurray !!!
For our Boergeneraal !!!

 O0 O0 O0
haha, thank you Husar  :)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: JTFFan on November 18, 2007, 03:56:04 AM
It's great to see South Africa supports Serbia. O0
Support the Boers. O0
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on November 19, 2007, 01:11:28 AM
It's great to see South Africa supports Serbia. O0
Support the Boers. O0

Thank YOU Fan. :)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Jo Shmoe on January 08, 2008, 02:43:26 PM
I drove past this church the other day. The church is 5 blocks from where I live. I would rather have these people in my neighbour than have the stinky Mooslims there... I played a game of cricket once in a mooslim neighbourhood against Muslims. It was disgusting! I worked with some Serbs in the work place. (one serb was even a gay guy  :::D ) Serbs are like us white South Africans but speak English with a funny accent  ^-^ ... All in all ,they were decent people... Mooslims on the other hand are filthy violent and very irritating... They scream at you saying that Mooslims are all peaceful and they demonstrate this by being violent with you... (can you see the irony in that? )
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on January 08, 2008, 02:45:53 PM
I drove past this church the other day. The church is 5 blocks from where I live. I would rather have these people in my neighbour than have the stinky Mooslims there... I played a game of cricket once in a mooslim neighbourhood against Muslims. It was disgusting! I worked with some Serbs in the work place. (one serb was even a gay guy  :::D ) Serbs are like us white South Africans but speak English with a funny accent  ^-^ ... All in all ,they were decent people... Mooslims on the other hand are filthy violent and very irritating... They scream at you saying that Mooslims are all peaceful and they demonstrate this by being violent with you... (can you see the ironay in that? )

No irony allowed!!!
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
WE WANT PEACE DO YOU HEAR ME!!!!
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on January 08, 2008, 04:44:24 PM
I drove past this church the other day. The church is 5 blocks from where I live. I would rather have these people in my neighbour than have the stinky Mooslims there... I played a game of cricket once in a mooslim neighbourhood against Muslims. It was disgusting! I worked with some Serbs in the work place. (one serb was even a gay guy  :::D ) Serbs are like us white South Africans but speak English with a funny accent  ^-^ ... All in all ,they were decent people... Mooslims on the other hand are filthy violent and very irritating... They scream at you saying that Mooslims are all peaceful and they demonstrate this by being violent with you... (can you see the ironay in that? )

No irony allowed!!!
 >:( >:( >:( >:(
WE WANT PEACE DO YOU HEAR ME!!!!
 >:( >:( >:( >:(

Irony is when they call for peace, watch your back then.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 08, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Hello Jo Shmoe, glad to see another AFCer here at JTF
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Jo Shmoe on January 09, 2008, 12:42:24 PM
Hello Jo Shmoe, glad to see another AFCer here at JTF

Where have we met before?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on January 09, 2008, 07:23:39 PM
African Crisis O0

"Janolifant" might ring a bell?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Jo Shmoe on January 10, 2008, 11:07:25 AM
African Crisis O0

"Janolifant" might ring a bell?

Definitely!!!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: ramen on January 10, 2008, 02:07:18 PM
i hate south africa. too much gangs in joberg and C town.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: crazyhorse on January 27, 2008, 05:11:07 AM
i hate south africa. too much gangs in joberg and C town.

South Africa is a natural beauty.......it's the savage scum that piss on her, rape her and her decent children who just want what is best for her, and that is sanity and civilization, but alas, that is not to be under the tyranny of the anc black communist terrorist hordes.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: serbian army on March 03, 2008, 09:42:15 PM
i hate south africa. too much gangs in joberg and C town.

South Africa is a natural beauty.......it's the savage scum that piss on her, rape her and her decent children who just want what is best for her, and that is sanity and civilization, but alas, that is not to be under the tyranny of the anc black communist terrorist hordes.
I agree with you. Soon I hope a light of freedom will come down on white heroes there O0
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 07, 2008, 08:39:12 AM
Thank you dear Serbian Army. You are a true friend of the Boers!!!!

Once we control our own country, we shall heavilly support our Serbian brothers!!!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 21, 2008, 05:10:56 AM
Thank you for your support serbian army! We Boers will always support you and Serbia!  O0

I don't live very far from the Serbian Orthodox Church-Saint Thomas!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 21, 2008, 11:04:13 AM
This week Brussel, our capital turned into Joberg. 4 attacks on busses in muzzie-nests.
with a molotov cocktail, stones, and guns.
The word "jongeren" is used. Never did they mention these "youths" ethnical background...
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 21, 2008, 11:48:53 AM
Ambiorix! I'm really sorry to hear that!
May these bastards burn in hell!

Where can I read news about your country?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 21, 2008, 03:09:10 PM
Ambiorix! I'm really sorry to hear that!
May these bastards burn in hell!

Where can I read news about your country?


Indeed, I hope that all these "youts" burn forever.

About Flanders and The Netherlands you can always check these sites:
Vlaams Belang is the local party in Flanders that wants independence from Belgium, and eventually wants to unite with Holland/the Netherlands. The organisation of Vlaams Belang has contacts with South-African Boers via the Flemish-Dutch-Afrikaner organisation "Voorpost", http://voorpost.org/  but I don't know what/who these people are, and can't trust them.

Do you know their leader ?  : Henk van de Graaf

http://voorpost.org/za.htm


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Nieuws uit Zuid-Afrika

Onderstaande artikels zijn van onze contactpersoon voor Voorpost in Zuid-Afrika, die tevens president is van de verkennersbeweging

U kan hem altijd contacteren via e-post: [email protected]

Januarie 2006
 
 
Mediaverklaring
 
Paul Kruger word weer President
 
Vanoggend (4 Januarie) omstreeks 07:30 sal pres. Paul Kruger weer as President van die Zuid-Afrikaanse Republiek ingestel word.  Lede van die Verkennersbeweging gaan dan op Kerkplein in Pretoria die standbeeld van Paul Kruger tooi met ‘n volkleur ampserp.
 
Die aksie word uitgevoer met die oog op die 150 ste herdenking van die Vierkleur eerskomende Saterdag.  Dit sal Saterdag 6 Januarie presies 150 jaar gelede wees dat die Vierkleur amptelik as vlag van die Zuid-Afrikaanse Republiek aanvaar en gehys is op Potchefstroom.  Die geleentheid word eerskomende Saterdag op Potchefstroom herdenk met ‘n program waartydens die oorspronklike ingebruikneming weer beleef gaan word.  Etlike duisende mense word in Potchefstroom vir dié geleentheid verwag, en verskeie motorkonvooie gaan met wapperende Vierkleure opruk na Potchefstroom.
 
Behalwe die eerbewys aan Paul Kruger, gaan die Verkenners ook soortgelyke aksies uitvoer by die beeld van genl. De la Rey op Lichtenburg en pres. Steyn op Bloemfontein.
 
Meer inligting oor die program op Potchefstroom, kan ds. Johan Lamprecht gekontak word by 08295791177.
 
Henk van de Graaf
President
 
 
Nuwejaarsboodskap vir 2007
 
Die Verkennersbeweging wil graag alle vryheidsliewende volksgenote ‘n voorspoedige 2007 toewens, asook sterkte vir die jaar wat voorlê.
 
Ongelukkig gaan ons goeie wense slégs aan dié volksgenote wat onbeskaamd en onverskrokke volksvryheid nastreef en hulle daarvoor beywer.  Die ander wat nie vryheid begeer nie, het dus ook nie sterkte nodig nie, want hulle het geen stryd om te stry en geen ideaal om te verwesenlik nie.  Hulle het vrede gemaak met die Nuwe Suid-Afrika waar Engels die voertaal is, misdaad die hoofbedrywigheid is en affirmative action die arbeidspraktyk is.
 
As ons volksgenote sterkte vir die nuwe jaar toewens, is dit omdat daar ‘n stryd te stry is.  ‘n Stryd vir ons taal, ‘n stryd vir ons simbole, ‘n stryd om ons pas geslaagde matrikulante aan die werk te kry, ‘n stryd om ons radio te behou, en ja, uiteindelik ook ‘n stryd om ons geloof te behou.  Dit is nie aldag maklik nie, want stryd vereis opofferings, en ‘n stryd maak nie gewild nie.  Inteendeel, ‘n mens is nie gewild as jy in die supermark die tou ophou omdat jy aandring om in Afrikaans gehelp te word nie.  Maar dit is hierdie soort uitdagings wat ook weer in 2007 vir ons wag, en waarvoor ons weer eens nie mag terugdeins nie.
 
Ons vryheidseis en vryheidstrewe behoort in hierdie jaar sterker as ooit tevore gestel te word.  Dit beteken dat ons onsself bester en sterker as voorheen moet identifiseer as Boere wat daardie strewe dra.  2007 is die jaar van die Vierkleur, en dit skep ‘n uitstekende geleentheid om presies dit te doen: om ons te identifiseer, selfs sigbaar deur die vertoon van ons volksimbole.
 
Ek glo ook in ons volkslewe moet ons, terwyl ons besig is om nader aan mekaar te beweeg, tog een lyn skerper trek.  Daardie lyn is die vryheidsideaal.  Ons sal in die toekoms nie die dooie gewig van saamwerkers met die nuwe Suid-Afrika kan dra nie.  Om vryheid na te streef, om ‘n eie land vir die Boerevolk te begeer, kom neer op ‘n revolusie.  Geen gewelddadige revolusie nie, maar enige strewe na ‘n verandering van die staatsbestel, word gedefinieer as revolusionêr, en dit beteken dat elke vryheidstryder in wese ‘n revolusionêr is, hoe vreemd of moeilik, self onaanvaarbaar dit ook al mag klink.
 
Die bokke en die skape van ons volk sal onderskei word deur daardie vryheidstrewe.  So ook die organisasies, bewegings en instellings wat dikwels aanspraak maak op volksentiment en volksondersteuning.  Dit het tyd geword dat elke instelling reguit sê waar hy staan ten opsigte van volksvryheid, want dit sal die koers vir die toekoms bepaal, en sal bepaal tot welke mate so ‘n organisasie werklik op volksondersteuning kan aanspraak maak.
 
Ons het elke klein oorwinninkie nodig om ons mense te laat moed hou, maar uiteindelik kan ons slegs ons Christelike geloof ongehinderd en vry van vreemde leringe uitleef in ‘n vrye omgewing.  Ons sal slegs ons taal werklik kan laat groei en leef in ‘n vrye land.  Ons sal slegs ongehinderd kan boer in ‘n vrye, onafhanklike Boererepubliek, en ook ons arbeid sal slegs weer normaal kan wees in ‘n onafhanklike land. Daarom is dit noodsaaklik dat alle organisasies en instellings in ons volkshuishouding hulle ondubbelsinnig tot vryheid verbind.  Maar dit sal ook aan die vyand ‘n ondubbelsinnige boodskap uitstuur: vryheid of moeilikheid op baie terreine.
 
Laat ons in 2007 ook ‘n daadwerklike poging aanwend om ons volksekonomie rigting te gee.  Ondersteun ons eie mense, en ondersteun dié instellings wat voorkeur gee aan volkseie arbeid, al kos dit dalk ‘n sent of twee meer, maar dit is uiteindelik ‘n belegging in ons ekonomie, én ons kinders wat werk kry.
 
Mag 2007 ook ‘n kultuurjaar soos min wees.  Kom ons ruk op in groot getalle op 6 Januarie na Potchefstroom om die herdenkingsgeleentheid van die Vierkleur by te woon.  Kom ons ruk in groot getalle op na Majuba die laaste naweek van Februarie.  Laat ons alle volksfeeste deur die jaar in groot getalle ondersteun, gewapen met ons Vierkleure, soos Van Riebeeckdag, Republiekdag, Paul Krugerdag, Geloftedag.
 
En mag dié kerke wat nog die Woord van God in sy volle waarheid verkondig, hierdie jaar elke week vol wees, en mag dié wat duidelik begin afdwaal het, selfs vals begin word het, leegloop.
 
Vir die ANC, wat ons as volk wil uitwis, het ons uiteraard geen goeie nuwejaarswense nie.  Ons gun hulle elke korrupsieskandaal, elke gat in Kaapstadse aanloopbaan, elke teenkanting teen die Groenpunt-stadion, en ons gun hulle hulle histerie as die Boere ‘n Vierkleur of Republiekvlag vertoon.  Ons beoog om hulle baie daarvan in 2007 te gee!
 
Maar dit sal nie vir ons help om ons net  te verlekker in die ANC se probleme nie.  Ons moet doelgerig, pro-aktief werk aan ons vryheid, ons moet nuut dink en anders optree as voorheen.  Daarvoor moet ons georganiseerd wees.  Ons beroep op elkeen is om betrokke te wees by een van dié organisasies wat volksvryheid nastreef, en dat dié organisasies dan ook nouer saamwerk om ‘n ware volksfront te vorm.  Dié wat dan nie so voel oor vryheid nie, kan ons maar gerus laat links lê, want hulle sal net ‘n blok aan ons been bly.
 
Ons as Verkennersbeweging sal 2007 weer gebruik om die ANC maksimaal te irriteer en om ons volk te mobiliseer.  Daarom sal ons dikwels dit sê wat u dink, want ons glo: eie volk eerste.
 
Sien u nou waarom ons net ons vryheidsliewende volksgenote sterkte en voorspoed toewens vir 2007?  Want alles sal regkom, as elkeen sy plig doen deur te werk en te bid. Dan sal die Vierkleur weer wapper!
 
Henk van de Graaf
President: Verkennersbeweging van Suid-Afrika




http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/
http://www.vlaamsbelang.be/
http://www.uitkijk.net/
feed://sioenederland.wordpress.com/feed/
http://eurabia.punt.nl/
http://dutchconcerns.blogspot.com/
http://www.dutchnews.nl/
http://www.stedentegenislamisering.be./
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?board=18.0
http://www.uitkijk.net/islam.php?do=ag
http://www.vrtnieuws.net/cm/flandersnews.be
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 21, 2008, 06:00:59 PM
I've never heard of Henk van de Graaf? I'll do some investigation!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 22, 2008, 10:18:15 PM
Goeie dag broerder Ambiorix en AriseSA

I had a look at that voorpost website. Please excuse my ignorance, but what does the broken cross on the orange and yellow flags mean? Does it perhaps represent  protestantism?

So Vlanders is seeking independance from the Netherlands, or Belgium, or both? What is the difference between Vlaanderians and Dutch and Belgians?

dankie :)
goeie dag

Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 23, 2008, 07:06:42 AM
It seems that Henk van de Graaf was originally a member of the Herstigte Nasionale Party:

 http://www.hnp.org.za/afrikaans.html

I think this is correct, but I am not 100% certain of this information.

The right is so divided in South Africa, we have at least 35 right wing organizations which all have the same aim but none of them see eye to eye to unite into one strong force!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 23, 2008, 07:59:57 AM
sigh...ja  :'( :-\
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 06:11:23 PM
It seems that Henk van de Graaf was originally a member of the Herstigte Nasionale Party:

 http://www.hnp.org.za/afrikaans.html

I think this is correct, but I am not 100% certain of this information.

The right is so divided in South Africa, we have at least 35 right wing organizations which all have the same aim but none of them see eye to eye to unite into one strong force!
sigh...ja  :'( :-\

What kind of right wing are the people from Herstigte Nasionale Party? (neo)Nazis? Or not?

Those 'broken cross' are rune-lettres (old alfabet of the Germanic/Scandinavian people).
That can very well be hidden links nazism, as these rune-lettres were used by Nazi-propaganda, and by nowdays' Størmfrønters.
 
The orange "Oranje" is the color of Holland, the house of Oranje , with prins Willem van Oranje.

(http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/images/aria/sk/z/sk-a-3148.z?leftcoulisse)




To your info : Holland is a province of The Netherlands - Nederland.
Vlaanderen is a region that speaks Dutch = (Diets) = Nederlands, a language close to Platdeutsch = German dialect , not like Hochdeutsch = official German language.


Flanders consisted out of 4 parts: one in France today, another in The Netherlands, and two 'provincies' in Belgium.
The French part has been Frenchised (our language is not really spoken there anymore, as it was illegal to speak it for centuries).

The Dutch part is of course speaking the same language as we do.

Flanders was a very powerful region in Europe, until 1585, when the Spanish took it.
It was also part of the Bourgoundy Empire, and part of the 17 provinciën (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces).
(http://www.wazamar.org/Nederlanden/zeventien-prov_bestanden/image002.gif)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Provinces
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Flag_-_Low_Countries_-_XVth_Century.svg)

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I am supporter of uniting the Dutch-speaking regions in Belgium (West-Vlaanderen, Oost-Vlaanderen, Antwerpen, Brabant, Limburg) with The Netherlands.
As we are historically 1 country.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
I agree with this party's text:




Die HNP is 'n politieke party wat hom beywer vir die belange van Blankes in Suid-Afrika. Die HNP glo dat die Afrikanervolk as blanke volk deur die loop van die geskiedenis 'n besondere posisie verwerf het in ons land.

Die lede van die HNP word landwyd in strydrade (takke) georganiseer. Daar is ook lede in die buiteland.

Die HNP se beginselbasis is Afrikanernasionalisme, naamlik Christenskap, Blankeskap, en Afrikanerskap. Nasionalisme, oftewel selfbeskikking van volkere, hou in dat daar skeiding tussen rasse en volke sal wees. Die beleid van afsonderlike ontwikkeling, ook bekend as apartheid, gee praktiese uiting hieraan.

As politieke party is die HNP se doelwit om die politieke mag in Suid-Afrika te herower. Daarvoor word politieke aksies van dag tot dag gevoer.

Die Afrikanervolk word opgeroep tot eendragtige verset teen die onwettige ANC-regime binne 'n Afrikanerfront.




 

Die HNP staan vir:

   Dié land is óns land
    
   Die Heilige Skrif as die onfeilbare Woord van God
    
   Die Drie-enige God moet in die grondwet erken en verheerlik word
    
   Die imperialisme met as doel 'n eenwêreldstaat sal beveg word
    
   Christelik-nasionale beginsels
    
   Christelike volkseie onderwys
    
   Nasionalisme as beginsel in politiek
    
   Die reg op 'n eie vlag en 'n eie volkslied
    
   'n Soewereine volksregering
    
   Eiendomsreg van Afrikaners sal beskerm word
    
   Buitelandse betrekkings op die basis: Suid-Afrika eerste
    
   Vreedsame naasbestaan met buurlande en ander state en volke
    
   Afrikaans as taal wat uit Afrika gegroei het en 'n meerdere reg het
    
   Die handhawing van wet en orde
    
   Vrye ondernemerskap
    
   Die beskerming van Suid-Afrikaanse burgerskap
    
   Die instroming van volksvreemdes sal stopgesit word
    
   Die belange van die boer sal beskerm word
    
   Op ekonomiese terrein moet elkeen 'n lewensvatbare bestaan voer
    
   Massa-kommunikasie sal nie Christelike-nasionale sedes aftakel nie (http://www.hnp.org.za/afrikaans.html)
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 25, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
The Herstigte Nasionale Party are not neo nazis! They are a white nationalist party. They were originally a part of the white party that ruled South Africa, The Nationalist party. The HNP broke away from the then ruling party back in the 1970's because they considered the Nationalist party too liberal!

The orange "Oranje" is also part of our heritage in South Africa because of our origins in The Netherlands.
Our previous national flag also contained orange!
One of our provinces was the Oranje Vrystaat.

Our ancestors were from The Netherlands and Dutch was spoken here for hundreds of years, it later evolved into the language of Afrikaans.

Thank you for the information on The Netherlands and uniting Dutch-speaking regions in Belgium with The Netherlands. This is very interesting and I will make sure I stay up to date with what is happening in your country!
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 06:44:17 PM


The Herstigte Nasionale Party are not neo nazis! They are a white nationalist party. They were originally a part of the white party that ruled South Africa, The Nationalist party. The HNP broke away from the then ruling party back in the 1970's because they considered the Nationalist party too liberal!

Great.


The orange "Oranje" is also part of our heritage in South Africa because of our origins in The Netherlands.
Our previous national flag also contained orange!
One of our provinces was the Oranje Vrystaat.


(http://www.psv.nl/upload/162927_661_1192523537118-SupportersHolland468.jpg)
see this football fans:
(http://www.ek.nl/img/F-Fans%20Nederland5.JPG)

Our ancestors were from The Netherlands and Dutch was spoken here for hundreds of years, it later evolved into the language of Afrikaans.

Nice. I can understand it quite easy, with some exceptions it is still very similar to Dutch/ or ancient Dutch dialects.
Is Afrikaans your native language?


Thank you for the information on The Netherlands and uniting Dutch-speaking regions in Belgium with The Netherlands. This is very interesting and I will make sure I stay up to date with what is happening in your country!


Since a few weeks we have a new government, but Belgium is a dying country. In a few decades it will be dead, we expel the king, and declare a free republic of Flanders. Uniting with The Netherlands will be a second fase.
In The Netherlands a majority of the people will support this.
When the mass media in Flanders is taken over by anti-Belgian elements, probably the Flemish will vote for unity with Holland also.
It could create a very good economical climate, because the Dutch are supergood in selling things, and we have a very good nose for quality products. And with the ports of Antwerp and Rotterdam combined, and the area in between converted to mega-port , we are the biggest in the World.
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: AriseSouthAfrica on March 25, 2008, 06:53:13 PM
Nice. I can understand it quite easy, with some exceptions it is still very similar to Dutch/ or ancient Dutch dialects.
Is Afrikaans your native language?


My mother is Afrikaans, I speak Afrikaans but my first language is English. I consider myself a Boer!

Those football photos look fantastic!

I like the idea of the mega-port! How many years do you think it will take to unite your nations?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 25, 2008, 08:56:06 PM
so all of Belgium actually belongs the Nederland?
So, the fall of Belgium is within reach?

Why was Belgium even created in the first place? And by who?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 09:55:45 PM
so all of Belgium actually belongs the Nederland?
So, the fall of Belgium is within reach?

Why was Belgium even created in the first place? And by who?
The language of Vlaanderen is the same as in Nederland.
The language of Wallonia is the same as in France.

Belgium is an artificial country created by France and Britain, to serve as a buffer between them and Germany in 1830,

and to weaken Nederland.

The Liberals agreed, the Catholics agreed, and the rest is history.

It consists of two parts:  Flanders and Wallonia that speak different languages.
We Flemish are the majority, but we are oppressed by the Belgian elite, that is anti-Flemish and pro the French speaking part of the bi-national state.

Flanders was a leading country from 1100-1585 in Europe,
When Spanish army invaded us, our elite, and the Jews left for Amsterdam, and made that country into a leading nation.
By 1830 Flanders was a very poor underdeveloped agricultural country.
By 1960, it was the most modern part of Belgium, and now exports 4 times more then Wallonia.


Wallonia can become independant too, as we don't need a bigger France.

Belgium is almost impossible to govern nowdays, but the Flemish part always makes compromises with the Southern part, to keep the status quo.

When Flanders becomes independant, you can compare it with Denmark in terms of economical power, three times less territory, but 2 million more people...

Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 10:01:12 PM
Nice. I can understand it quite easy, with some exceptions it is still very similar to Dutch/ or ancient Dutch dialects.
Is Afrikaans your native language?


My mother is Afrikaans, I speak Afrikaans but my first language is English. I consider myself a Boer!

Those football photos look fantastic!

I like the idea of the mega-port! How many years do you think it will take to unite your nations?
no idea when Belgium stops. It will slowly "evaporate". Meanwhile the EUSSR is build up.
The parliaments of the EU memberstates have lost their sovereignty anyway.

Is there a confilct between English and Afrikaans speaking white people?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 25, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
Quote
Belgium is an artificial country created by France and Britain, to serve as a buffer between them and Germany in 1830,

and to weaken Nederland.
ok, I hought it might have been for that reason.

Now, will the EU allow the Flemish to gain independance? Especially because the EU is located in Belgium?
Title: Re: South Africa is Serbia's closest ally in Africa
Post by: Ambiorix on March 25, 2008, 10:11:38 PM
Quote
Belgium is an artificial country created by France and Britain, to serve as a buffer between them and Germany in 1830,

and to weaken Nederland.
ok, I hought it might have been for that reason.

Now, will the EU allow the Flemish to gain independance? Especially because the EU is located in Belgium?
Belgium hosts the military and political HQ of the NATO. The EU is a large scale Gulag, that likes to give muslims separate states, to please the USAA's geopolitical games. They will certainly oppose the Flemish totally. I'm sure they would send in troops to protect the Belgian state.
It is very complicated, because our capital Brussel is been taken over by Wallonian people, the muslims, the blacks, the NAto, the EU....and Belgium...
We could live without Brussels, and make Antwerpen or Amsterdam our capital.
Mechelen was also capital once, and Brugge as well.

The Belgian elite operates a bit in darkness, they have huge financial power, and still maintain control over the uranium and gold/copper/whatever mines of the old colony of Congo.
At the other hand, Wallonia, once a very rich region, is very weak economically.

They will make problems if we declare independance.