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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Aces High on August 16, 2018, 09:11:18 AM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/what-would-hamas-do-if-it-could-do-whatever-it-wanted/375545/
This is why an Arab transfer program is the only solution.
But you know how it goes with the Jews, always doing the opposite of the right thing. They want to rebuild Gaza, so the Arabs stay. And more Jews will die because of it.
Key point from article #1:
"What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas."
Key point #2
"While it is true that Hamas is expert at getting innocent Palestinians killed, it has made it very plain, in word and deed, that it would rather kill Jews. The following blood-freezing statement is from the group's charter: “The Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realization of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: ‘The day of judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jews will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say ‘O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/what-would-hamas-do-if-it-could-do-whatever-it-wanted/375545/
This is why an Arab transfer program is the only solution.
But you know how it goes with the Jews, always doing the opposite of the right thing. They want to rebuild Gaza, so the Arabs stay. And more Jews will die because of it.
Key point from article #1:
"What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas."
Key point #2
"While it is true that Hamas is expert at getting innocent Palestinians killed, it has made it very plain, in word and deed, that it would rather kill Jews. The following blood-freezing statement is from the group's charter: “The Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realization of Allah’s promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: ‘The day of judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jews will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say ‘O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.”
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Actually, the title of this article "What would Hamas do if it could do whatever it wanted?" is misleading and politically correct. The title should be "What would the Palestinians do if they could do whatever they wanted?" But the article might not have been published with that title.
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This is why an Arab transfer program is the only solution.
If Arabs want to act as a Ger Toshav by keeping the Noahide Code, Jews should not prevent them from living in Israel. If not, Jews are commanded to expel them from the Holy Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).
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If Arabs want to act as a Ger Toshav by keeping the Noahide Code, Jews should not prevent them from living in Israel. If not, Jews are commanded to expel them from the Holy Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).
It's hard to believe you could make that comment after reading this article. Why make the exception to the rule?? If you think the Arabs want to keep the Noahide laws, then you should move to Gaza and live with them. You won't last 10 minutes. You'll be begging for the IDF to save you.
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It's hard to believe you could make that comment after reading this article. Why make the exception to the rule?? If you think the Arabs want to keep the Noahide laws, then you should move to Gaza and live with them. You won't last 10 minutes. You'll be begging for the IDF to save you.
I understand why you are emotional about this subject. But we need to follow Torah, not our emotions. The argument that an Arab transfer program is the only solution is false in the eyes of Torah Law. Your article says that some Palestinians would not support genocide. If they keep the Seven Noahide Commandments because they were commanded to Moses in the Torah, they may live in Israel.
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If Arabs want to act as a Ger Toshav by keeping the Noahide Code, Jews should not prevent them from living in Israel. If not, Jews are commanded to expel them from the Holy Land of Israel, and they are forbidden by Torah Law to dwell there (whether they are expelled or not).
That means according to Torah Law, they must be expelled. They do not accept The Noahide Laws. They steal and murder. They have relations with camels. The only thing they definitely refrain from is idolatry.
If they stay, they have to accept Jewish sovereignty, which they also do not accept.
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That means according to Torah Law, they must be expelled. They do not accept The Noahide Laws. They steal and murder. They have relations with camels. The only thing they definitely refrain from is idolatry.
If they stay, they have to accept Jewish sovereignty, which they also do not accept.
We discussed this. The main doctrine of Islam is not idolatry. But their belief about Satan is idolatrous.
I agree the vast majority of them must be expelled.
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Well they don t need because already the Israeli despotic government does everything for them .It s incredible how Jews accept to live under such corruption of the mind, they deserve what Wil l happen to them so much
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Well they don t need because already the Israeli despotic government does everything for them .It s incredible how Jews accept to live under such corruption of the mind, they deserve what Wil l happen to them so much
Israel needs to be a Torah theocracy.
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All the Arabs should go back to Saudi Arab.