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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Daniel on September 30, 2007, 04:46:31 PM
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A couple of weeks ago, one of our posters, (I believe it was Ari?) posted how disappointed he felt over his team losing a football game. Just now, the NY Mets completed one of the worst collapses in baseball history. So I'm certainly feeling very down about this now :'(
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there is always next year and yes, like you, I'm sad..but if a team is going to collapse like that, they don't deserve to be in the playoffs or world series...we'll all get over this eventually...
time for football season!
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there is always next year and yes, like you, I'm sad..but if a team is going to collapse like that, they don't deserve to be in the playoffs or world series...we'll all get over this eventually...
time for football season!
Thanks! I agree! The life of a Mets fan, it gives us such agida (sp?), and I'm such a casual Mets fan and feel so disappointed. I can only imagine how the hardcore fans feel. It would be SO much easier to be a Yankees fan :)
You're right. On to the football season now. Let's just hope the Jets and Giants don't collapse like this as well which they have a history of doing as well :)
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I knew friday that the mets were not going to win the pennant. Since they last won in 1986, the mets never won a game when they need to.
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Thanks! I agree! The life of a Mets fan, it gives us such agida (sp?), and I'm such a casual Mets fan and feel so disappointed. I can only imagine how the hardcore fans feel. It would be SO much easier to be a Yankees fan :)
But The Mets have gotten in so many times over the past 10 years and even to The World Series. The Phillies didn't get in since 1993 and while The Mets won The World Series in 1986, The Phillies didn't win it since 1980, their only time while The Mets also won it in 1969.
You're obviously from Philly. It's not so much the issue of how long it's been since either team has won a series or has been in the post season. It's that the Mets and all its fans have now suffered the worst collapse in baseball history. If the Phillies have been leading the league all your long with this result, then it wouldn't have been as bad and as heartbreaking.
Anyway, I went to yesterday's game at Shea Stadium and saw one of the best games ever played. At least I had that enjoyment and euphoria while it lasted :)
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You're obviously from Philly. It's not so much the issue of how long it's been since either team has won a series or has been in the post season. It's that the Mets and all its fans have now suffered the worst collapse in baseball history. If the Phillies have been leading the league all your long with this result, then it wouldn't have been as bad and as heartbreaking.
Anyway, I went to yesterday's game at Shea Stadium and saw one of the best games ever played. At least I had that enjoyment and euphoria while it lasted :)
They were stupid to get in fights yesterday and to run up the score. I think the teams in the American League are better.
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I liked the Yankees cause I was a Thurman Munson fan. So got to be happy with one team in the city :laugh:
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LIsten..it's not like I play or coach for the Mets...so there is very little to be upset about even though I'm a fan
I'm going to root for the Phillies to go all the way because if they do win, it won't be in vain of the Mets collapse.
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In Australia we play similar sports to you american chaps...
Our sports are NRL, Rugby Union, Cricket and AFL (australian Football)
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I like the Mets because they are a local team... but their play down the stretch has to be the poorest in the history of baseball!
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Those who are Met fans here: tell me about it. It sucks that they lost, but I was motivated by a sign seen in the post-game show that read: "1st or worst: still and always a die hard fan!". The reason that meant so much is because that's who I am. I'm not some phony Yankee fan who likes them because they always win. I feel they buy the playoffs/world series each year. The Mets at least earn it. Plus, I'm a New Yorker, you MUST root for the underdog!
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Well on the plus side, the NHL season has begun. :laugh: Now thats a sport. Baseball is ok but it puts me in a coma after the third inning.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb294/Daytripper6872/Avatars/nhl-sm1.gif)
Lord Stanley's Cup, its a beauty.
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Well on the plus side, the NHL season has begun. Now thats a sport
Could not agree more ;D
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You mean Los Mets.
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(http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/images/premier/football_saints.gif)
It's ok I'm a Saint's fan, I understand loss......... :(
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Do any of you know of the "CURSE OF NOLAN RYAN"?
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Those who are Met fans here: tell me about it. It sucks that they lost, but I was motivated by a sign seen in the post-game show that read: "1st or worst: still and always a die hard fan!". The reason that meant so much is because that's who I am. I'm not some phony Yankee fan who likes them because they always win. I feel they buy the playoffs/world series each year. The Mets at least earn it. Plus, I'm a New Yorker, you MUST root for the underdog!
I noticed that same sign and felt the same way about it. That's the best way to sum up a true fan. I agree with everything you say here and couldn't say it better myself!
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I like the Mets because they are a local team... but their play down the stretch has to be the poorest in the history of baseball!
This was the biggest collapse in baseball history. 17 games to go with the Mets up 7 games in first place. They just needed to play 500 baseball to make it in and couldn't even do that, especially against 4th, 5th, and last place teams. It just comes to show you can never take anything for granted or become cocky about anything.
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You mean Los Mets.
And they have a black Hispanic with an Arabic first name as their General Manger. Not to mention that the manager is black.
listen, the mets have 4 jews on their team: Green, Newhan, Schoenweiss, and....either a relief pitcher or a bench player...forgot which one...
and i belive these 4 Jews also take off on Yom Kippur (at least that)
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As for tonight's match-up:
Colorado Rockies vs. San Diego Padres... I'll take the Rockies, they're an exciting bunch and young!
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The Rockies were in the playoffs once. In 1995, they were the wild card team. They got sweept by the Braves.
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I share in your pain, but the way Randolph was managing the collapse seemed almost inevitable. Changes must be made and next year should be better. Also sorry to see Shawn Green possibly end his career like this. I hope he reconsiders retiring.
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Absolutely, I also think he was anti-semitic in not playing Green enough the last month of the season when he was doing very well, and instead playing two schwartzes hitting .250.
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I think Willie Randolph lacks the fire needed to manage the whole team... he was good as a bench coach on the Yankees.
There aren't that many black players in the game today that can play, so it's important for the media to promote the very few that remain to the highest ranks.
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Absolutely, I also think he was anti-semitic in not playing Green enough the last month of the season when he was doing very well, and instead playing two schwartzes hitting .250.
He's definitely past his prime so I'm not so sure that he was being treated unfairly.
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Tom Glavine is a player of great character. He won his 300th career game this past season. He had been pitching fine until the past couple starts. I'm not sure if he pitched so much worse in his last start or if batters were just fortunate that they were able to hit the ball at the right spot instead of hitting the ball to infielders or popping up to the outfield.
He was considering playing another season but now I'm not sure what he'll do.
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Well on the plus side, the NHL season has begun. Now thats a sport
Could not agree more ;D
IF you like NHL there is no better team that San Jose in my opinion... they are to NHL what the New Zealand all blacks are to rugby union
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Here's a list of black professional baseball players that have a chip on their shoulder and began acting like savages:
Garry Sheffield, Milton Bradley, Lastings Milledge, Dontrell Willis, and let's not forget Barry Bonds... feel free to add more if you can think of
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IF you like NHL there is no better team that San Jose in my opinion... they are to NHL what the New Zealand all blacks are to rugby union
Oh I have been a Scott Stevens fan for years and years...still a NJ Devils fan even though hes retired.
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I'll have to stick with my Islanders, even though they stink. Hey, at least the NHL is still a white sport.
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I use to go to Madison Square Garden to watch Mark Messier and the Rangers play, now its Jagr and company. It is a terrific sport that you need to be very skilled in order to play.
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You should go to the hockey game, Yacov. It's a great game to watch in person. It is fast and maybe doesn't involve as much thought as baseball, but I still find it exciting, especially during the playoffs. So far, so good for the Isles. Maybe I was wrong, 2-0.
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"How 'bout those Mets?" ;)
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I share in your pain, but the way Randolph was managing the collapse seemed almost inevitable. Changes must be made and next year should be better. Also sorry to see Shawn Green possibly end his career like this. I hope he reconsiders retiring.
Do you think Randolph was unqualified as an affirmative action manager?
Oh please! Give me a freakin break, Yacov! Just because someone is black doesn't make him an "affirmative action" manager! Randolf has done an absolutely excellent job ever since he got on board with the Mets. He has done 1000 times better than that white Valentine who did an absolutely HORRENDOUS job managing the Mets. How many times did we see those typical strike em' out throw em' out double plays against the Mets under Valentine. We never saw that under Randolf. If there's anyone who needs affirmative action here, it's the whites.
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Absolutely, I also think he was anti-semitic in not playing Green enough the last month of the season when he was doing very well, and instead playing two schwartzes hitting .250.
Randolph is antisemetic??? Where in the world do you get this stuff from? Do you just make these things up as you go along just to get the chance to pick on blackey?
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Chaim has said that JTF is not a cult. People can disagree even with Chaim. JTF is not a Hasidic sect and Chaim is not a rebbe.
No one should disagree on this issue and this is not even a religious matter. If Chaim were to say that no one should ever watch any sports then I can understand as hockey or tennis doesn't have so many Blacks or Hispanics but if all humans were to boycott basketball, baseball and football they'd go bankrupt and understand that when the NBA is 90% Black, humans won't tolerate this obvious discrimination.
You're absolutely right about this. As I always say, the NBA really needs to start implementing an affirmative action program to include more whites.
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I don't like basketball. Baseball is still about half white (The rest being black and Hispanic and even some of the Hispanics are white.) and football still has a fair amount of whites compared to basketball. Football requires a brain so it is more interesting. Basketball just requires Homo Sapien giraffes dropping a ball in a basket. That is why most football quarterbacks are white and the few black ones always mess up. The Eagles are doing bad because they brought back the injured schvartza quarterback from last year. The white with an Hispanic last name (Jeff Garcia) got them to the second round of the playoffs when the schvartza (Donovan McNabb) was injured after the schvartza played bad in the beginning of last season. I don't know what it is with The Eagles and black quarterbacks. And the media always wants them to succeed. Rush Limbaugh stated that and they kicked him off of ESPN. Now Schvartza McNabb complained about it himself. So it's okay when a schvartza says it but not when a white says the same thing.
I have to say that this is one of the most asinine, dimwitted, ludicrous and nonsensical dribble I've ever seen in my entire life! I absolutely cannot believe this! If I didn't know any better, I'd think this was Newman posting as you. I'm absolutely astounded that anyone could possibly come up with these types of postulations! I'm not sure even where to start!
First off, you don't like certain sports because of their racial makeup. So by that logic, if we were to swap all of those dumb apish schvartzes and swap them with all of those brilliant hard working honest white boys from the NHL, then you would enjoy Basketball and hate Hockey and justify it by stating that in Basketball, it's necessary to have a brain to execute all those brilliant plays while in Hockey, you just need to have a bunch of big dumb goons knocking each other over and lobbing a puck in a net.
I don't know where you get the notion that it's the black quarterbacks that do all the messing up. If that were the case, then the coaches wouldn't play them. There's no affirmative action that takes place in Football. If there were, we'd be seeing a lot more white people playing. The coaches don't care about political correctness or racial equality. They only care about WINNING! So they're not gonna keep some dumb oaf in as a quarterback just to play nice and to appease the liberal media.
The next time you watch a football game, don't look at the white quarterback dropping back. Take a very close look at the offensive line with all those big dumb goon schvartzes and take a very close look at what they do. If you look carefully enough, you'll notice that they're not just a bunch of goons that are trying to tackle and clobber each other down to the ground. It's a very carefully calculated and crafted chess game. You'll see those dumb goons blocking in certain directions in order to open up whole for the ball runner to penetrate. It's those big dumb black oafs that make it possible for that brilliant white guy to even do his job. If it wasn't for an effective offensive line, the greatest quarterback in the world would be rendered absolutely useless.
Also, take a close look at the defensive line as well. This too, it's not just a bunch of big dumb blacks trying to knock everyone down to tackle the quarterback. A few rush while others strategically stay back. The only exception we ever saw of this was from that brilliant white dude Mark Gastineau. Every single play, he would behave the way you would accuse dumb schvartzes to act. He charged the quarterback on every single play! The other team knew this and would very often just run right behind him after he charged. While he was successful at making many sacks, he was a really stupid and hotheaded defenseman. But he was white, so I guess he couldn't have been all that bad. There was also a playoff game where the Jets had the game virtually won against the Cleveland Browns in the 80's where Gastineau made such a stupid cheap shot personal foul late hit. This ended up causing the Jets that game. The Jets would have won the game if it weren't for that. Oh, and not to mention, he just suddenly and selfishly decided to quit football because he decided he didn't want to play anymore and just kiss Bridgette Neilson's behind. But oh no, we never say anything about those damned whites or anything to the extent of "Look! 'We' give all of 'them' all this money, attention, and fame and look at how 'they' behave!" But if this were a black person who behaved this way, that's exactly what we'd say.
Lastly, in I don't understand your last sentence. You're trying to draw out a double standard. What exactly do you mean by "it"? Rush Limbaugh's intention was to take a dig at the liberal media and forgot that he wasn't talking to his typical redneck audience and it never occurred to him that his comments in this context could be taken the wrong way. But McNabb didn't do the same thing as Limbaugh. He never said that the conservative media wants a white quarterback to succeed. McNabb simply complained about Limbaugh's comments. That's not the same thing as engaging in the same behavior that Limbaugh engaged in. So I don't see where the comparison of your alleged double standard is coming from.
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The kickers are also usually white.
So what? What does that mean to you? Why do you take such an issue about what the race is of different people?
If I remember correctly, I think the NFL had (or may still have) some Indian kickers.