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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. Dan on October 07, 2007, 04:19:04 PM
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no need to explain yourselves...
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I am Jewish. Some people might accuse me of being a self-hating Jew. But to that, I respond by quote Larry David from "Curb Your Enthusiasm" who stated, "Look! I admit I hate myself, but it has nothing to do with me being Jewish!" :) One of the funniest lines ever :)
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Lol that is pretty funny.
I said no, my mom wasn't raised with any religion, not sure what if any my grandparents(her parents) religion was, they never talked about it, but she became Anglican when she married my dad, thats how we were raised but Im not involved with that any longer.
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Lol that is pretty funny.
I said no, my mom wasn't raised with any religion, not sure what if any my grandparents(her parents) religion was, they never talked about it, but she became Anglican when she married my dad, thats how we were raised but Im not involved with that any longer.
If They were Irish/Polish they were 95% Roman Catholic As for me my father family was Lutheran but they converted to RC before WWI when they moved from Austro Hungarian to Russian ocupied Poland; on my mather side some were jewish some catholic but I'm neither of them.
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Hmmm, how to categorize myself, secular non-practicing Jew? But, non-self hating, Kahanist when it comes to Israel, I hate "liberals" and self-hating left-wing "Jews" like poison;
Unexpected contradictions there huh, usually secular/non-practicing and liberal/left-wing self-hating, all go together, well not in this case, I'm not deranged and suicidal like those dreks. :)
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Hmmm, how to categorize myself, secular non-practicing Jew? But, non-self hating, Kahanist when it comes to Israel, I hate "liberals" and self-hating left-wing "Jews" like poison;
Unexpected contradictions there huh, usually secular/non-practicing and liberal/left-wing self-hating, all go together, well not in this case, I'm not deranged and suicidal like those dreks. :)
listen, if you love your fellow Jew and love Israel so much that you want the best thing be done for them..then you're not self-hating.
and for that matter, in my opinion, if there is a jew that loves Jews so much that he thinks that giving land to the muderous arabs will save lives, I love that person too...But in the back of my mind, he's an idiot who doesn't know better.
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I'm as Jewish as Matzo Ball Soup! ;D Thanks for the quote Jackie Mason!
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I dont practice a formal religion at this time, though I do believe in God.
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I dont practice a formal religion at this time, though I do believe in G-d.
Do you consider yourself to be a Christian? If not, then you should become a Noahide. JTF has many Noahides. Sarah is one. Jimmy Sullivan is also one as is Newman. Noahides are Non-Jews that practice The Seven Laws of Noah, handed down by G-d to all Gentiles. Judaism doesn't require Gentiles to convert and insists that they practice these laws rather than convert. But they are welcome to convert if they are really committed to it.
Unless I'm mistaken, I believe Newman is a convert.
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I guess Im still figuring out where I belong ;)
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Yes
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I am Jewish. Some people might accuse me of being a self-hating Jew. But to that, I respond by quote Larry David from "Curb Your Enthusiasm" who stated, "Look! I admit I hate myself, but it has nothing to do with me being Jewish!" :) One of the funniest lines ever :)
Why would you be accused of being self-hating? what are your views?
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I dunno, spent my whole life as secular, too old, used to the lifestyle, and set in my ways to change now. :)
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I was raised RC, but I'm a non-denominational Christian.
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I thought most JTFers were not Jewish. Why doesn't the poll reflect that?
I thought the same thing....
idk whats going on with this poll
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I was wondering if someone knew if a person is still considered Jewish if their mother was Jewish, but converted to another religion before giving birth to him or her. This doesn't apply in my case, but I'm just curious. Also, I think under Reform Judaism, which I know we don't support, you can be considered Jewish if any parent is Jewish, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
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If most JTFer's aren't Jewish, then I am astonished. Means there's lots of rightious gentiles.
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I was wondering if someone knew if a person is still considered Jewish if their mother was Jewish, but converted to another religion before giving birth to him or her. This doesn't apply in my case, but I'm just curious. Also, I think under Reform Judaism, which I know we don't support, you can be considered Jewish if any parent is Jewish, but I'm not 100 percent sure.
Yea that is the deformed movement's policy. The only reason is because if they dont allow it they will lose lots of members do to the high rate of intermarriage among deformed Jews
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I thought most JTFers were not Jewish. Why doesn't the poll reflect that?
Because 19 people voted Yacov ;)
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i wish i was...
no i am comfortable with who i am
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Blood wise but not by faith.
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I dont practice a formal religion at this time, though I do believe in G-d.
Do you consider yourself to be a Christian? If not, then you should become a Noahide. JTF has many Noahides. Sarah is one. Jimmy Sullivan is also one as is Newman. Noahides are Non-Jews that practice The Seven Laws of Noah, handed down by G-d to all Gentiles. Judaism doesn't require Gentiles to convert and insists that they practice these laws rather than convert. But they are welcome to convert if they are really committed to it.
Unless I'm mistaken, I believe Newman is a convert.
Rabbi Paul say the same to gentile christians; they were not required to accept the whole law of Moses only to avoid idol worshiping; the eating of meat with the blood which is not upholded by most so called chritian churches ; and sexual immorality; at least for start; the prohibation against murder and robery is present in all civilised societes; And Newman is some kind of hasidic convert Yes.
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My mothers Jewish, my fathers Jewish. That would make me Jewish.
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Blood wise but not by faith.
Oy you're a nice boychik, enough of this meshuggenah "not by faith" business. ;)
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My mothers Jewish, my fathers Jewish. That would make me Jewish.
See? Cohen knows. :D
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New yorker Im from New York but I don't get what you mean?
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Blood wise but not by faith.
Another Christian of Jewish blood, cool. (presuming from your username that you are christian.)
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Yes my mother hid it so in case the [censored] hit the fan again we would be safe/But ! Im
, a Born again Christian
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New yorker Im from New York but I don't get what you mean?
That makes sense. Kind of an inside joke. I went into the voice of mother's friend, who is a nice old Polish Jewish woman, and then set you straight the way she would. Too bad I can't arrange an in person meeting; She'd tell you in no uncertain terms of how you're a nice Jewish boychik and when you protest that you are not, that you are a born again Christian, she'd shut you up with "Enough of this messhugenah nonsense!" and that'd be the end of the argument, she'd then feed you too much, and send you on your way. ;D
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Dont get it but thats fine.She probably was a great women.My mother just wants to protect her kids seeing She remembers what happened.She is now 76 years old....
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Yes.
About this option in the poll :
"I left Judaism for another religion."
"Jew" is a nationality, you will be a Jew also of you will change your religion.
Therefor a Jew that coverted to Christianety for exemple is Christian Jew .
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Dont get it but thats fine.She probably was a great women.My mother just wants to protect her kids seeing She remembers what happened.She is now 76 years old....
Lol, um, nothing to get really, it's just when I read how you said you're Jewish by blood, but, born again Christian by conversion, the comical thought of how that old Polish Jewish women would react to that came into my head and made me laugh. ;D
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Yes.
About this option in the poll :
"I left Judaism for another religion."
"Jew" is a nationality, you will be a Jew also of you will change your religion.
Therefor a Jew that coverted to Christianety for exemple is Christian Jew .
I thought Israeli was a nationality? I've always found it really misleading when someone calls themselves a Atheist Jew. Wouldn't it make more sense if they were a semitic atheist or a hebrew atheist?
What about someone who converts to Judaism?
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Their is blood and there is faith, two different things but kinda similar.Nazis cant see the difference but we can.
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Yes.
About this option in the poll :
"I left Judaism for another religion."
"Jew" is a nationality, you will be a Jew also of you will change your religion.
Therefor a Jew that coverted to Christianety for exemple is Christian Jew .
I thought Israeli was a nationality? I've always found it really misleading when someone calls themselves a Atheist Jew. Wouldn't it make more sense if they were a semitic atheist or a hebrew atheist?
What about someone who converts to Judaism?
Israeli and a Jew is the same thing, also Hebrews.
Maybe the term "Hebrew" for the non-believers Jews in Judaism will make it less confusing.
And about people who convert (in my opinion) :
Even if YOU are convert you aren't fully Jew by nationalety because you weren't born as a Jew, but with time you will become a part of the Jewish people because you need to absorb the Jewish culture (Jewish music, Jewish art, Jewish motives, Jewish Halach) - you don't have to believe Judaism though - Jewish history and more .
The Jews are a people, you can call tham Hebrews if that's what you want to.
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In a short-lived dream 15 or so years ago, an elderly woman (whom I took to be Jewish) sat in a rocking chair and told me, "You are part Jewish."
I awoke right after she said that and felt honored. ;)
I must say, however, that I very much believe in Jesus (though hope it won't be held against me in here ;D.)
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Jesus was Jewish .OK by me Bro
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Jesus was Jewish .OK by me Bro
Indeed. :)
Thanks! :) :)
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I am Jewish. Some people might accuse me of being a self-hating Jew. But to that, I respond by quote Larry David from "Curb Your Enthusiasm" who stated, "Look! I admit I hate myself, but it has nothing to do with me being Jewish!" :) One of the funniest lines ever :)
Why would you be accused of being self-hating? what are your views?
I don't know. Perhaps since I'm liberal on most issues (not including Israel) and also a registered democrat. I like Spielberg, Seinfeld, Larry David, and many of the "evil Hollywood Jews" as Chaim calls them. Oh, and believe it or not, I like a lot of what Dershowitz has to say. (I can sense the daggers flying in my direction now). I really respect him for having such a brilliant debate with Rabbi Kahane and consider the debate the two of them had at Boston University to be the most intellectually stimulating video on the entire internet. I thought Dershowitz made some very good points. However, I felt that while Dershowitz was trying to be idealistic, Kahane was being more realistic, especially evidenced by the state of affairs of today. However, I do loathe the fact that Dershowitz helped to defend OJ.
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Non Jew here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/eurovision/2007/includes/col1/media/israel.gif)
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Mosque thats cool!
Wayne jude
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Dont get it but thats fine.She probably was a great women.My mother just wants to protect her kids seeing She remembers what happened.She is now 76 years old....
Lot did and its good to protect family thats what mothers do. O0
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Thank you .Many think she was wrong!
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Thank you .Many think she was wrong!
Many have never been outside their back doors, of even seen what evil man can really do.
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Thank you! It makes me feel better!
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Nope. Going by the Orthodox definition of maternal decent, I would not be considered to be Jewish.
I do realize though that this doesn't mean I am completely separated from Jewish people from a societal viewpoint.
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no need to explain yourselves...
No I am not jewish my mom is not Jewish she is Armenian however I am directly related to them because as I said before My grandad on my father line was 100% Jewish and there was some relative on my Mother side were Jewish. My Great Gramother on my mom line was a German-Jew her last was Marx a direct discentor of Karl Marx. Moreover In a Former Soviet Uniun Jew was a nationallity that went on father line and if someone had a jewish last no matter if mother is not jewish.Goverment consider them Jew and make more presecution.
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My mothewr was a Gentile, and so my father, as far as I know. But how are we to trace our mother's genealogy back to the time of Mt. Sinai? Anyone could be Jewish without knowing it