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I will post more as the information becomes available. Once again the blacks have shown that they cannot think in a logical manner and are completely driven by their base animal instincts. We really should rethink about passing out affrimative action degrees to these imbeciles.
What Really Really Happened in Jena
On Friday, Sept. 21, we published a lengthy account of what really happened in Jena, Louisiana, which showed how events in that town were distorted to fit an image of Southern white “racism.” We have since learned that events were even more shamelessly manipulated than we realized. There were two key elements to the “racism” charge: that there was a tree at Jena High School under which only whites could sit, and that whites hung nooses from the tree to intimidate blacks who asked if they could sit under it. Both charges are false.
Craig Franklin is a reporter with the Jena Times who has covered events from the beginning. He confirms that there was no “whites only” tree. The tree in question was planted in 1986, and only recently grew tall enough to give shade. The school put picnic tables under it, and anyone who wanted to sat at them.
As we reported previously, the question about whether blacks could sit under the tree was a joke during an assembly for boys. Everyone in the room knew that although students sometimes self-segregate, no place at Jena High School was off-limits to blacks or whites. Everyone laughed at the question. Mr. Franklin has learned that the boys asked a number of joke questions, partly to keep the assembly going as long as possible, so they would not have to go back to regular classes.
Even more central to the Jena-is-racist hysteria is the report—now enshrined as fact—that the next day nooses appeared on the tree to scare away blacks. The three students who hung the nooses were soon discovered, and school authorities described the episode as a “prank.” The national press has mercilessly blasted any school that could dismiss an evocation of lynching as a “prank,” but Mr. Franklin confirms that this is exactly what it was.
The three boys who hung two nooses were members of the rodeo team. Contrary to our report of Sept. 21, they did not paint the nooses in the school colors of black and gold. Both nooses were black, but only because the rope one of the boys had in the back of his truck was made of black nylon. Mr. Franklin says they were not even proper nooses, but crudely tied loops. Why did the boys put them there?
They had recently seen the “Lonesome Dove” television series, in which Texas Rangers string up several rustlers. None of the rustlers was black. The nooses on the tree really were a joke, directed at white friends.
Mr. Franklin, who recently spoke to the parents, says the boys did not even know nooses had racial significance. To members of the rodeo team, nooses meant cowboys and rustlers. “They didn’t have a clue what nooses mean to blacks,” he says, and were “totally flabbergasted” to learn that they can be seen as symbols of lynching.
It is nevertheless widely believed that white students perpetrated a vicious act of racist intimidation, but got only a slap on the wrist because the school dismissed it as a “prank.” The national media tell us that justifiably frustrated blacks then got into a fight with a white boy and were charged with attempted murder. Blacks denounced double-standard justice, and Jena became the new civil-rights battlefield.
Once the story took this turn, why did Jena High School not explain what really happened? The authorities learned about the nooses in investigatory hearings that could have led to expulsion (and did lead to suspension). State law requires that such proceedings be confidential, so the school kept silent. Only now have parents agreed to waive confidentiality.
The charges of “racism” that are supposed to be at the heart of this story have now been shown to be just as mendacious as the inventions with which Tawana Brawley helped Al Sharpton find his true calling. There was no whites-only tree. There was no “racist intimidation.” Four months later, when a gang of blacks decided to beat a white boy unconscious and stomp him, the local prosecutor treated the attack like the serious crime it was. The blacks—with the encouragement of the national media and the “civil rights” industry—concocted a history of “racism” because they wanted to beat the rap.
For those who know how the press covers race, its hideous cavorting over Jena is no surprise, but Craig Franklin is disappointed. “We are taught there are two sides to a story,” he says, speaking as a journalist. “The national media took one side and ran with it as if it were fact.”
In fact, they ran so far with it they are too ashamed to report the truth. Mr. Franklin says he called CNN to tell them what he has learned. “We’ll get back to you,” they said. The New York Times and the Washington Post are certainly not going to correct their stories, now that they have committed themselves to a juicy tale about Southern “racism.” We ask AR readers to let us know if even one national organ reports the truth.
This story is not like the Duke rape hoax. The press had licked its chops so gleefully at the initial charges that it could hardly turn its back as the sickening process ground on to its—for the press—deeply disappointing conclusion. The Times and the Post will write small stories when the “Jena 6” go to trial, but here’s betting they will never admit they got it wrong about the whites-only tree and the nooses.
If they ever do, what will be their message? That the press should control its biases? That it should check facts? No. They will blame the white rodeo team for its ignorance of American history, and will insist that every white boy get the “sensitivity training” he needs to know what nooses really mean.
(Posted on October 2, 2007)
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Here are some facts regarding the Jena 6 victims. This is starting to make the Duke case sound like a stroll in the park on a nice spring day. Something radical must be done with these negroes. Expulsion from white countries would be a good start. They are not intellectual capable to live in a civilized society.
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Monday, Oct 8, 2007
Posted on Sat, Sep. 29, 2007
Jena 6 case caught up in whirlwind of distortion, opportunism
By JASON WHITLOCK
JENA, La. | Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and talk-show hosts certainly feasted on the racial unrest in this tiny central Louisiana town.
But it would be unfair to claim they threw the match that ignited the Jena Six case into a global blaze of hostility and misinformation.
That distinction belongs to Alan Bean, a 54-year-old white, self-proclaimed Baptist minister from Tulia, Texas.
“Do I know him?” was LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters’ sarcastic and dismissive response when I asked about Bean during a 45-minute interview.
“People are reluctant to say it,” said Craig Franklin, editor of the Jena Times, “but there is no doubt that Alan Bean created all of this.”
This is different things to different people. To some, this is a long overdue civil-rights reawakening, which points out pervasive racism in the South and in our justice system. To others, this is a horrific public-relations crime against the white people of Jena and irreparable damage to race relations in the poor oil town. And to some dispassionate observers, this is an unfortunate situation being exploited by white and black racial extremists.
On Sept. 20, when Jackson, Sharpton and Jena Six family members led competing rallies in support of six black youths accused of brutally attacking a white classmate, this — more than 20,000 marchers — was something no one in Jena could ever imagine.
But Alan Bean could.
Bean — the creator of Friends of Justice, an organization primarily dedicated to helping poor minorities victimized by our justice system — had warned prominent members of the Jena community as early as January that the town would be painted as racist by the national media if Walters didn’t back down.
“I told them I was going to bring media attention to this situation, and it was likely the same thing would happen to them that happened to my little hometown,” Bean said by phone on Friday. “Tulia got a bad rap, a rap it probably didn’t deserve. But the media doesn’t do its job. It’s in the entertainment business.”
“Tulia” refers to the case that made Bean and Friends of Justice a player in the world of American criminal justice. In the late 1990s, Bean exposed a corrupt cop in his hometown. More than a dozen drug convictions against minorities were overturned because of Bean’s work. Tulia was labeled as racist, and Bean became the person to call if you thought the police and/or a prosecutor were exploiting you.
A lawyer in New Orleans put Bean and parents of the Jena Six in contact with each other in December. Within three months, Bean had researched Jena and the events surrounding the assault, and published a 5,400-word narrative titled “The Making of a Myth in Jena, Louisiana” and a 2,400-word, media-friendly narrative titled “Responding to the Crisis in Jena, Louisiana.”
These two pro-defense narratives form the outline for most of the world’s understanding of the case. Bean connected the December assault on Justin Barker to the September noose hangings, to Reed Walters’ infamous “I can ruin your life with the stroke of a pen” statement at a hastily called school assembly, and to separate off-campus confrontations between Robert Bailey and white men on the Friday and Saturday before the attack on Barker.
Walters said Wednesday he’d never heard that the attack on Barker had anything to do with the noose hangings until the defense filed motions in the spring to recuse him from the case.
Bean said he first spoon-fed his narratives to Tom Mangold of the BBC because Mangold had worked with Bean on the Tulia drug cases. The BBC filmed a documentary on the Jena Six titled “Race Hate in Louisiana.” Bean said he then gave the Jena Six story to newspaper reporter Howard Witt of the Chicago Tribune, which published a similar story on May 20.
“I put it in the hands of people I knew would do a good job with the story,” Bean said.
Bean also gave his story to a blogger, Jordan Flaherty, and a law professor, Bill Quigley. From all of these sources the story mushroomed and became fact.
The Jena Six beat up Justin Barker because they were still angry about the lack of sufficient punishment given to white kids who hung nooses on a whites-only shade tree, and the six were railroaded by an overzealous district attorney who failed to properly prosecute white men who viciously assaulted Robert Bailey and later pulled a shotgun on Bailey and two others at a convenience store.
Walters, police investigators, school officials and some Jena residents say Bean’s story is hogwash. There is at least some legitimacy to those claims. Bean’s story and subsequent posts on his Web site contain factual errors.
The three kids responsible for hanging the nooses were given more punishment than just a “few days of in-school suspension.” They went to an alternative school for nine days and received two weeks of in-school suspension, LaSalle Parish school superintendent Roy Breithaupt said.
But more than the factual errors, Bean’s story is framed — by his own admission — as an indictment of the criminal justice system and the people in power in Jena and, therefore, the story is unfairly biased. Bean never examined the other forces at work that contributed to the Jena Six assault and Walters’ heavy-handed approach to justice as it relates to the alleged perpetrators.
“I didn’t know,” Bean said when asked whether he knew of defendant Mychal Bell’s violent juvenile history when he was crafting his narratives. “I never talked to Mychal’s family, and I never talked to Mychal. He was in jail. I knew he had a history for getting into trouble. I knew he was a kid at a crossroads.”
Bean also didn’t know that in fall 2006, Bell, who 16 at the time, was living with his then-18-year-old best friend John McPherson and McPherson’s then-16-year-old wife, Ashley, in a three-bedroom trailer. The McPhersons are white. Bell is the godfather to their 18-month-old daughter.
Bean has a very idealistic view of the Jena defendants.
“These are fun-loving, impetuous, athletically gifted black males that don’t drink and don’t smoke, and they go to church as well,” he told me.
The church-going contention flies in the face of what Rev. Jimmy Ray Young, pastor at L&A Baptist Church, said Wednesday.
“None of these boys have been in church except when Al Sharpton was in town,” Young complained. “I’ve told the ministers we need to get these boys back in church.”
Walters claims that Bean and the media have distorted other key elements in the case.
Bean reported that Walters directed his “stroke of the pen” remark at black students when the school called an assembly to quell protests of the noose hangings. Some pro-Jena Six chain e-mails create the impression that Walters met privately with black students and threatened them. Not true, Walters and police say.
Paul Smith, Jena’s chief of police, says he and sheriff’s investigator Jimmy Arbogast called Walters to the school after a student took a swing at Smith when he was breaking up a fight between students.
“Tensions were high. Everybody was upset,” Arbogast said. “We wanted Reed to explain to them that, ‘Hey, look, you have to think for a minute. Look what age” you are. Y’all are in high school.’
Flanked by Arbogast and Smith, Walters addressed the entire student body. He said he began by telling the students about an aggravated rape case (possible death penalty) that he was considering.
‘I can be your best friend or your worst enemy. Walters recalls saying: “With the stroke of a pen I can make life miserable on you or ruin your life. So I want you to call me before you do something stupid.’ That last part doesn’t get reported. It doesn’t make good press.”
Bean also wrote that three days before the Jena Six assault a white man, Matt Windham, pulled a shotgun on Bailey and two others. He wrote that they wrestled the gun away from the man and ran off, and that Walters charged them with a crime rather than the white man.
The police contend that Windham — not the boys — called the police, claimed the boys threatened him, chased him back to his vehicle and wrestled his gun away. The police also say that two uninvolved female witnesses backed Windham, and that’s why the boys were charged.
Bean also mischaracterized the simple battery that Bailey suffered at the Fair Barn party four days before the attack on Barker, according to Walters, police, several witnesses and Bailey’s statements to police.
“Robert Bailey Jr. was attacked by a savage white mob at a local dance,” Bean wrote. “True, he wasn’t knocked unconscious — but that is just a matter of aim and good fortune. He was punched, he was kicked, and he was smacked over the head with a beer bottle (and he’s got the scars to prove it).”
Walters, who prosecuted Bailey’s lone attacker (Justin Sloan), said there was no mob attack. It was simply a dispute at the door of a mixed-race, invitation-only party that Bailey was denied access to.
“It wasn’t a fight,” Walters said. “Robert Bailey didn’t swing. He didn’t do anything. The kid hit him, knocked him down. No beer bottle, no anything. There was no statement of the victim at that time indicating any weapon was used. … The defendant (Sloan) was arrested on a simple battery. He was prosecuted on a simple battery. He pled guilty to a simple battery.
“It was only after the fact that I learned that a beer bottle was involved, that stitches were involved,” Walters continued. “And I checked after the fact with my local hospital: Did this happen? The information (about a beer bottle) came up in a motion to recuse me from the current charges. That’s the first time I’d heard about that.”
Ironically, Bean is now growing frustrated with the way the case has turned, particularly since Jackson and Sharpton got involved. He said they wouldn’t return his calls. He indicated there was a riff between the Bailey (Bean camp) and Bell (Sharpton camp) families.
People in Jena say the feud is over money. The families are handling the donations to the Jena Six defense fund. Robert Bailey recently posted and took down MySpace photos of himself and another Jena Six defendant with wads of $100 bills stuffed in their mouths and splashed across their bodies.
“I can tell you there is no misappropriation of the funds,” said Bean, adding he was not being paid for his services. “I’ve been there and seen them handling the checks. Where Robert got his hands on that money, I don’t know. He’s a kid. It was a stupid thing to do.”
As for Bean’s thoughts on Jackson and Sharpton?
“I’m not at all comfortable with the way this has been handled by the Jackson and Sharpton folks,” Bean said. “What’s wrong is that Jesse and Al have tried to turn this into an old civil-rights story in which Mychal Bell emerges like Rosa Parks, and that’s not right. These guys (Jackson and Sharpton) have lost their gravitas, lost their credibility. People are really tired of the same old 1960s shtick.”
Based on the crowds in Jena on Sept. 20, I’m not so sure.
To reach Jason Whitlock, call 816-234-4869 or send e-mail to [email protected].
© 2007 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.kansascity.com
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I think by causing sensations like this the liberal left may actually over play their hand and shock complacent whites back into the real world. Most white folks have been so buffaloed into inaction by the civil rights groups they are letting society go down the drain. We need a few more situations like this to get people thinking and moving. White society as it is now are like sheep in the stockyards outside the slaughter house.
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I will post more as the information becomes available. Once again the blacks have shown that they cannot think in a logical manner and are completely driven by their base animal instincts. We really should rethink about passing out affrimative action degrees to these imbeciles.
What Really Really Happened in Jena
On Friday, Sept. 21, we published a lengthy account of what really happened in Jena, Louisiana, which showed how events in that town were distorted to fit an image of Southern white “racism.” We have since learned that events were even more shamelessly manipulated than we realized. There were two key elements to the “racism” charge: that there was a tree at Jena High School under which only whites could sit, and that whites hung nooses from the tree to intimidate blacks who asked if they could sit under it. Both charges are false.
Craig Franklin is a reporter with the Jena Times who has covered events from the beginning. He confirms that there was no “whites only” tree. The tree in question was planted in 1986, and only recently grew tall enough to give shade. The school put picnic tables under it, and anyone who wanted to sat at them.
As we reported previously, the question about whether blacks could sit under the tree was a joke during an assembly for boys. Everyone in the room knew that although students sometimes self-segregate, no place at Jena High School was off-limits to blacks or whites. Everyone laughed at the question. Mr. Franklin has learned that the boys asked a number of joke questions, partly to keep the assembly going as long as possible, so they would not have to go back to regular classes.
Even more central to the Jena-is-racist hysteria is the report—now enshrined as fact—that the next day nooses appeared on the tree to scare away blacks. The three students who hung the nooses were soon discovered, and school authorities described the episode as a “prank.” The national press has mercilessly blasted any school that could dismiss an evocation of lynching as a “prank,” but Mr. Franklin confirms that this is exactly what it was.
The three boys who hung two nooses were members of the rodeo team. Contrary to our report of Sept. 21, they did not paint the nooses in the school colors of black and gold. Both nooses were black, but only because the rope one of the boys had in the back of his truck was made of black nylon. Mr. Franklin says they were not even proper nooses, but crudely tied loops. Why did the boys put them there?
They had recently seen the “Lonesome Dove” television series, in which Texas Rangers string up several rustlers. None of the rustlers was black. The nooses on the tree really were a joke, directed at white friends.
Mr. Franklin, who recently spoke to the parents, says the boys did not even know nooses had racial significance. To members of the rodeo team, nooses meant cowboys and rustlers. “They didn’t have a clue what nooses mean to blacks,” he says, and were “totally flabbergasted” to learn that they can be seen as symbols of lynching.
It is nevertheless widely believed that white students perpetrated a vicious act of racist intimidation, but got only a slap on the wrist because the school dismissed it as a “prank.” The national media tell us that justifiably frustrated blacks then got into a fight with a white boy and were charged with attempted murder. Blacks denounced double-standard justice, and Jena became the new civil-rights battlefield.
Once the story took this turn, why did Jena High School not explain what really happened? The authorities learned about the nooses in investigatory hearings that could have led to expulsion (and did lead to suspension). State law requires that such proceedings be confidential, so the school kept silent. Only now have parents agreed to waive confidentiality.
The charges of “racism” that are supposed to be at the heart of this story have now been shown to be just as mendacious as the inventions with which Tawana Brawley helped Al Sharpton find his true calling. There was no whites-only tree. There was no “racist intimidation.” Four months later, when a gang of blacks decided to beat a white boy unconscious and stomp him, the local prosecutor treated the attack like the serious crime it was. The blacks—with the encouragement of the national media and the “civil rights” industry—concocted a history of “racism” because they wanted to beat the rap.
For those who know how the press covers race, its hideous cavorting over Jena is no surprise, but Craig Franklin is disappointed. “We are taught there are two sides to a story,” he says, speaking as a journalist. “The national media took one side and ran with it as if it were fact.”
In fact, they ran so far with it they are too ashamed to report the truth. Mr. Franklin says he called CNN to tell them what he has learned. “We’ll get back to you,” they said. The New York Times and the Washington Post are certainly not going to correct their stories, now that they have committed themselves to a juicy tale about Southern “racism.” We ask AR readers to let us know if even one national organ reports the truth.
This story is not like the Duke rape hoax. The press had licked its chops so gleefully at the initial charges that it could hardly turn its back as the sickening process ground on to its—for the press—deeply disappointing conclusion. The Times and the Post will write small stories when the “Jena 6” go to trial, but here’s betting they will never admit they got it wrong about the whites-only tree and the nooses.
If they ever do, what will be their message? That the press should control its biases? That it should check facts? No. They will blame the white rodeo team for its ignorance of American history, and will insist that every white boy get the “sensitivity training” he needs to know what nooses really mean.
(Posted on October 2, 2007)
What a spin. I must congratulate the person who wrote this bogus article. lol I think racist whites will say anything to dismiss the nooses (3 nooses, I might add) that were hanging from that tree. lol The first story I heard other than the TRUTH, was that those nooses were hung there because they used to hang the mascots of rival school football teams. THEN I read this, that the reason that the white kids hung the nooses because they're part of a rodeo club? When was the last time, in a rodeo you saw a cowboy hitching a noose up onto a tree to catch cattle? LOL Give me a break! Those boys weren't stupid, they knew exactly what hanging even ONE noose from a tree meant, especially to black people. Tell me something, just out of curiosity, how would you feel if someone painted a swastika on the walls at a school you attended...because of your Jewish heritage, how would you feel? I have an analogy for you noose: hanging black people as swastika:used against Jews. Both signs of hatred give credence to the fact that both cultures should be dead. I don't see how anyone can look at three nooses (PAINTED IN SCHOOL COLORS) hanging from a tree no matter HOW short it was as a 'prank', but see a swastika as serious business and an insult to Jewish people.
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Good point.
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Ms. know it all, was the 'noose' tied with a hangsmen's knot? If it wasn't then it cannot be used to hang anyone with. By the way the reporter for the paper is a black guy. I suggest that you call and demand that if the 'noose' that was hung on the tree was not a hangsmen's knot, just say it was because it would make a better story and would serve the needs of the black community much better.
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Ms. know it all, was the 'noose' tied with a hangsmen's knot? If it wasn't then it cannot be used to hang anyone with. By the way the reporter for the paper is a black guy. I suggest that you call and demand that if the 'noose' that was hung on the tree was not a hangsmen's knot, just say it was because it would make a better story and would serve the needs of the black community much better.
You are amazingly hateful, you know that? It wasnt' meant to HANG the black kids but to threaten them not to sit under the tree again or they WOULD be hanged. DUH! I asked you a question and you didn't answer it so I'll repeat myself one more time. If some idiot painted a swastika on your school or on your house, how would you feel about it? A noose is as threatening to black people as a swastika is to Jewish people. Don't you understand that?
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Ms. know it all, was the 'noose' tied with a hangsmen's knot? If it wasn't then it cannot be used to hang anyone with. By the way the reporter for the paper is a black guy. I suggest that you call and demand that if the 'noose' that was hung on the tree was not a hangsmen's knot, just say it was because it would make a better story and would serve the needs of the black community much better.
Hi Fjack, I happen too live in South Mississippi. I understand completley what those kids were trying too do. It is blatently obvious to any one that lives here a noose from an oak tree ( despite the knot ) is a clear signal. I apoligize if I come across as as "know it all" but I live in a state where the word "[censored]" is an everyday cliche. I do not take the side of the jena 6 for their actions.
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Ms. know it all, was the 'noose' tied with a hangsmen's knot? If it wasn't then it cannot be used to hang anyone with. By the way the reporter for the paper is a black guy. I suggest that you call and demand that if the 'noose' that was hung on the tree was not a hangsmen's knot, just say it was because it would make a better story and would serve the needs of the black community much better.
Hi Fjack, I happen too live in South Mississippi. I understand completley what those kids were trying too do. It is blatently obvious to any one that lives here a noose from an oak tree ( despite the knot ) is a clear signal. I apoligize if I come across as as "know it all" but I live in a state where the word "schvartza" is an everyday cliche. I do not take the side of the jena 6 for their actions.
I think he was talking to me, though. I'm still trying to figure out what fjack's problem is with me.
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Understood, When he texted MS, I thought of my paltalk name Mississippimud ,and got off track.
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So now you want to ban rope. Since the rodeo and the school's rodeo club uses ropes with nooses, they are racist and should be kicked out of school and rodeos should be under federal regualation and banned. What a simple sick tribe the blacks are. Get a life and collect your reparations from whitey and leave the country.
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So now you want to ban rope. Since the rodeo and the school's rodeo club uses ropes with nooses, they are racist and should be kicked out of school and rodeos should be under federal regualation and banned. What a simple sick tribe the blacks are. Get a life and collect your reparations from whitey and leave the country.
Which is the truth fjack? Were they hung because the rodeo was in town? Or were the nooses hung because they hang the mascotts of other teams ? Since you dont' believe nooses were hung to threaten the black kids who sat under the tree the previous day.
And you STILL didn't answer my question. No surprising. I'll answer it for you then. HELL NO you wouldn't like it if you woke up one morning and someone had painted a symbol of hatred for Jews (the swastika) on your door. Why don't you think its possible for the nooses to have been hung in hatred for black kids?
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The school has a rodeo club and the club lost. Besides the rope was nylon, the rope you would use to hang someone would be hemp. If the rope used was nylon the knot on a hangsmen's noose would not break the kneck since nylon would stretch. If it was a real threat they would have used a hemp rope tied with the proper knot. I can't stand this 'made up threat'. It is also a federal law not to make a hangmen's noose.
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fjack ,
Does any news organizations have an actual pic of the noose ? I've looked, I can't find one. I'd like too see the actual rope used. Still living here in the south, it sends a clear message ( a bad one ). The composite of the rope doesn't mean anything, it's a symbol of hatred that the kkk use. It's like if I painted a swastika instead of putting a real swastika statue at someone's home, the message is clear.
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The school has a rodeo club and the club lost. Besides the rope was nylon, the rope you would use to hang someone would be hemp. If the rope used was nylon the knot on a hangsmen's noose would not break the kneck since nylon would stretch. If it was a real threat they would have used a hemp rope tied with the proper knot. I can't stand this 'made up threat'. It is also a federal law not to make a hangmen's noose.
What's the difference? Would you feel less upset if someone left a needle point swastika on your doorstep? The same with the rope used to form the nooses. It dosen't matter what they were made of, but what it represented overall. Hatred for black people and the threat that if another black person sat under the tree they'd be hung. I don't know how you don't understand that.
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The school has a rodeo club and the club lost. Besides the rope was nylon, the rope you would use to hang someone would be hemp. If the rope used was nylon the knot on a hangsmen's noose would not break the kneck since nylon would stretch. If it was a real threat they would have used a hemp rope tied with the proper knot. I can't stand this 'made up threat'. It is also a federal law not to make a hangmen's noose.
I think you're in denial here fjack. This article is total BS, we all know what those white students were trying to do when they hung those nooses up. As far as I know, it's not a typical rodeo custom to hang ropes on trees.
Just because the white kids hung nooses up does not excuse the actions of the Jena 6 in any way, so there really isn't any justification to deny that the students intended to put out a message to the blacks when they hung the nooses up.
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The school has a rodeo club and the club lost. Besides the rope was nylon, the rope you would use to hang someone would be hemp. If the rope used was nylon the knot on a hangsmen's noose would not break the kneck since nylon would stretch. If it was a real threat they would have used a hemp rope tied with the proper knot. I can't stand this 'made up threat'. It is also a federal law not to make a hangmen's noose.
I think you're in denial here fjack. This article is total BS, we all know what those white students were trying to do when they hung those nooses up. As far as I know, it's not a typical rodeo custom to hang ropes on trees.
Just because the white kids hung nooses up does not excuse the actions of the Jena 6 in any way, so there really isn't any justification to deny that the students intended to put out a message to the blacks when they hung the nooses up.
I agree with you 100% Ze'ev. There is no excuse for what the Jena 6 did to Justin Barker...there is no excuse for what those white kids did to that one black kid at a party...and there is no excuse for what the white man did when he pulled a gun on a black teen. NO ONE was thinking. ALL THREE should have been held equally responsible for their actions.
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I bet the ape professor at Columbia hung the noose in her own office...
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I bet the ape professor at Columbia hung the noose in her own office...
Prejudicial mumbo jumbo ChaimBenMordechai. Why is it hard to believe that there are whites who hate blacks so much that they'd do such a thing? You and many of your cohorts have mentioned that most whites hate blacks anyway..why the change of heart? ANd would you be saying all of this if someone left a swastika, a symbol of Nazi terrorism, on the front door of your house? The noose is just as much of a threat as the swastika, only it targets different ethnicities.
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There is a nationwide campaign being promoted by several neo-nazi outfits called "Noose on the Loose" which encourages those angry and disenfrancised whites to hang nooses in highly visible places with the hopes of goading emotionally unstable blacks to act out and create more presslines.
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There have been more whites that were hung then you darkies. If you don't like it tough. The negro prof in nyc who said a noose was hung in front of her door probalbly did it herself, More and more you darkies are trying to use this scam to try and extort money from white people. Well you are not getting a nickel out of me. If you want come and try and extort money from me, come to my house or try and collect from me on the street and see what you get, and by the way bring some of your friends.
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Fjack, With respect, I disagree with you. I've lived in the South for almost 40 years. I know the culture, and I know the racism that abounds in our culture on both sides. The bottom line is, when one hangs a noose from an oak tree, that has nothing too do with a rodeo. It is a blatant and clear message too the Black population, stay away or else. I work with a guy right now that believes I am a white supremicists ( Typo ). Every other day he says too me "White power" and does the nazi salute. I tell him he's nuts. I really don't believe you understand the level of hatred towards the Black population, in some places in the South. It is not a made up fantasy, it is not a scam. These people mean business. And they are not beyond killing some one.
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There have been more whites that were hung then you darkies. If you don't like it tough. The negro prof in nyc who said a noose was hung in front of her door probalbly did it herself, More and more you darkies are trying to use this scam to try and extort money from white people. Well you are not getting a nickel out of me. If you want come and try and extort money from me, come to my house or try and collect from me on the street and see what you get, and by the way bring some of your friends.
So its possible for an entire race (ahem...MOST white people) to hate blacks but IMPOSSIBLE for a hateful white person to hang a noose somewhere? Are you kidding me?NO one is asking for a red cent from you. You sit at your computer console blaming ALL blacks for everything you're pissed off about, then accuse ALL BLACKS of extorting money from you?You sound a wee bit paranoid. Got meds? ???
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There have been more whites that were hung then you darkies. If you don't like it tough. The negro prof in nyc who said a noose was hung in front of her door probalbly did it herself, More and more you darkies are trying to use this scam to try and extort money from white people. Well you are not getting a nickel out of me. If you want come and try and extort money from me, come to my house or try and collect from me on the street and see what you get, and by the way bring some of your friends.
So its possible for an entire race (ahem...MOST white people) to hate blacks but IMPOSSIBLE for a hateful white person to hang a noose somewhere? Are you kidding me?NO one is asking for a red cent from you. You sit at your computer console blaming ALL blacks for everything you're pissed off about, then accuse ALL BLACKS of extorting money from you?You sound a wee bit paranoid. Got meds? ???
Erica Sharpton and Jackson have extracted some huge settlements from corporations to frightened to tell them where to get off. So what fjack is saying is not so far fetched.
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There have been more whites that were hung then you darkies. If you don't like it tough. The negro prof in nyc who said a noose was hung in front of her door probalbly did it herself, More and more you darkies are trying to use this scam to try and extort money from white people. Well you are not getting a nickel out of me. If you want come and try and extort money from me, come to my house or try and collect from me on the street and see what you get, and by the way bring some of your friends.
So its possible for an entire race (ahem...MOST white people) to hate blacks but IMPOSSIBLE for a hateful white person to hang a noose somewhere? Are you kidding me?NO one is asking for a red cent from you. You sit at your computer console blaming ALL blacks for everything you're pissed off about, then accuse ALL BLACKS of extorting money from you?You sound a wee bit paranoid. Got meds? ???
Erica Sharpton and Jackson have extracted some huge settlements from corporations to frightened to tell them where to get off. So what fjack is saying is not so far fetched.
That's THEM..I can't do ANYTHING about what those losers do with their time. However I'm sure that if some 'self hating Jewish person' did something horrible and I came in here and pinned him and his crime on ALL Jewish people...Not only would I be banned, but I'd be on Hate-The-Black-Chick watch! ALl I'm saying is stop being general. Sharpton dosen't belong to black people, Jackson dosen't belong to us either. Blacks who commit crimes don't belong to us either!
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
Yes I agree! I always hear the solo rebuke of Sharpton and gang but at the end of the day most blacks support the havoc created by people like him. Until blacks completely turn their backs on people like Sharpton and Jackson and shun Faracan's million man marches they will never be free of the affirmative action stigma.
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
Then is it fair that I say that you're bound to the kkk? *example*
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
We're only bound together in YOUR mind. You don't think that there are blacks with their own minds?
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
Then is it fair that I say that you're bound to the kkk? *example*
No - How is that?
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
We're only bound together in YOUR mind. You don't think that there are blacks with their own minds?
Yes - in my mind and no one else's ::)
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I believe that the black people do own Jesse and Al...or is it the other way around. Either way as long as they are allowed to be front and center - you are all bound together in the publics mind.
Then is it fair that I say that you're bound to the kkk? *example*
No - How is that?
So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
My point is that its not fair to point to an entire race of people and say, "the fact that people who look like you committed x,y,z, crime makes you just like them; therefore you are all linked." How is that even remotely fair, bullcat? I can't pin the KKK's crimes on every white person, why should YOU pin every crime an evil black has committed on EVERY black?
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First off - weren't we talking about Fat Albert Sharpton and Jesse Mumbles Jackson?
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So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
Have the KKK touched your life? If so - you may need to judge all people based on what they have done to you.
I say - Do what you have to do to survive! ::)
If you are robbed at gunpoint by a purple man - I'm sure that you will look at all purple men differently. If not you are crazier then a JuneBug :o..
If there is no outcry against the evil behavior of Al and Jesse - then you guys own them or they own you.
The KKK does not represent me or most whites in any capacity - but if they bother you I could understand why you might be leary of all whites.
Whatever. I'm from NYC - I've never seen any people dressed in white sheets...except maybe at a toga party ;).
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First off - weren't we talking about Fat Albert Sharpton and Jesse Mumbles Jackson?
You asked -
So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
Have the KKK touched your life? If so - you may need to judge all people based on what they have done to you.
I say - Do what you have to do to survive! ::)
If you are robbed at gunpoint by a purple man - I'm sure that you will look at all purple men differently. If not you are crazier then a JuneBug :o..
If there is no outcry against the evil behavior of Al and Jesse - then you guys own them or they own you.
The KKK does not represent me or most whites in any capacity - but if they bother you I could understand why you might be leary of all whites.
Whatever. I'm from NYC - I've never seen any people dressed in white sheets...except maybe at a toga party ;).
I know for a fact that even if the kKK did nothing to me personally (besides [censored] me off with their incessive hatred of people of other races) I KNOW I'd never hate ALL whites because of it. Just like I dispise the white man of yesteryear (he's dead now.so it really dosen't matter, but) I don't blame the white man/woman or child of today for slavery. That just isn't fair. And if you're looking for me to say so, you're going to be waiting a long while, bullcat..I'm not budging!
I was treated like crap by a white 1st grade teacher I had ..in fact every black kid in our class was... She would often tell us we were stupid and such. She even prevented me from going to the nurse's office after I was knocked unconcious on my way to school one morning. When I awakened, I was late for class...so being the 6 year old I was..I ran to class and she didn't want to hear any excuses... even with a huge knot on my head and me telling her that I was dizzy and didn't feel good. SHe had me do 20 lines "I will not be late for class or forget my glasses." .then told me I coudln't go to lunch. When I wheezed and cried,she constantly told me I was disrupting class and faking an illness. Long story short, when I made it to my apartment building and someone found me passed out in our building's office after (um, you know) , I was rushed to the hospital and told my mom what had happened. My mom went up to the school, gave the teacher a peice of her mind and all the teacher could say was ..."I thought she was faking...." My mom whipped out the doctor's note and the teacher turned red. A few incidents with other children arose and then she was let go.
Now I told you that to say this... Although I still dislike that lady, she didn't make me bitter toward all white people. I went on to have GREAT white teacher, went to college and made OUTSTANDING white friends, got married and met MORE terrific white friends and friends of different cultures other than mine on our travels as a military family. I LOVE those who respect me...but you're not required to love me back though. Those who disrespect me, earn disrespect from me. And I would think the same would go for me. If I disrespect you, you don't have to respect me. I'm in the wrong.
YOU aren't to blame for the way the teacher treated her black class, so why should I be on 'white watch' against you?
And I want to tell you something... Before we left Okinawa in 2002, there was talk of the Klan possibly moving there and having a rally there. What would be our next duty station? Garden City,Ny. lol I was so afraid of maybe going into Times Square and running into one of those sheet-clad clowns and having to run from them... but nothing came of it. We lived there for 3 1/2 years. Because New Yorkers stood up for the Klan not being part of their melting pot, they didn't move there.
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First off - weren't we talking about Fat Albert Sharpton and Jesse Mumbles Jackson?
You asked -
So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
Have the KKK touched your life? If so - you may need to judge all people based on what they have done to you.
I say - Do what you have to do to survive! ::)
If you are robbed at gunpoint by a purple man - I'm sure that you will look at all purple men differently. If not you are crazier then a JuneBug :o..
If there is no outcry against the evil behavior of Al and Jesse - then you guys own them or they own you.
The KKK does not represent me or most whites in any capacity - but if they bother you I could understand why you might be leary of all whites.
Whatever. I'm from NYC - I've never seen any people dressed in white sheets...except maybe at a toga party ;).
I know for a fact that even if the kKK did nothing to me personally (besides [censored] me off with their incessive hatred of people of other races) I KNOW I'd never hate ALL whites because of it. Just like I dispise the white man of yesteryear (he's dead now.so it really dosen't matter, but) I don't blame the white man/woman or child of today for slavery. That just isn't fair. And if you're looking for me to say so, you're going to be waiting a long while, bullcat..I'm not budging!
I was treated like crap by a white 1st grade teacher I had ..in fact every black kid in our class was... She would often tell us we were stupid and such. She even prevented me from going to the nurse's office after I was knocked unconcious on my way to school one morning. When I awakened, I was late for class...so being the 6 year old I was..I ran to class and she didn't want to hear any excuses... even with a huge knot on my head and me telling her that I was dizzy and didn't feel good. SHe had me do 20 lines "I will not be late for class or forget my glasses." .then told me I coudln't go to lunch. When I wheezed and cried,she constantly told me I was disrupting class and faking an illness. Long story short, when I made it to my apartment building and someone found me passed out in our building's office after (um, you know) , I was rushed to the hospital and told my mom what had happened. My mom went up to the school, gave the teacher a peice of her mind and all the teacher could say was ..."I thought she was faking...." My mom whipped out the doctor's note and the teacher turned red. A few incidents with other children arose and then she was let go.
Now I told you that to say this... Although I still dislike that lady, she didn't make me bitter toward all white people. I went on to have GREAT white teacher, went to college and made OUTSTANDING white friends, got married and met MORE terrific white friends and friends of different cultures other than mine on our travels as a military family. I LOVE those who respect me...but you're not required to love me back though. Those who disrespect me, earn disrespect from me. And I would think the same would go for me. If I disrespect you, you don't have to respect me. I'm in the wrong.
YOU aren't to blame for the way the teacher treated her black class, so why should I be on 'white watch' against you?
And I want to tell you something... Before we left Okinawa in 2002, there was talk of the Klan possibly moving there and having a rally there. What would be our next duty station? Garden City,Ny. lol I was so afraid of maybe going into Times Square and running into one of those sheet-clad clowns and having to run from them... but nothing came of it. We lived there for 3 1/2 years. Because New Yorkers stood up for the Klan not being part of their melting pot, they didn't move there.
Why do you use the word hate?
Did I tell you to hate anyone?
Why do you hate the white man of yesteryear? Were they all evil? I don't think so.
That is a terrible story you told.
If that happened to me...I would be very leary of every white teacher I ever had again.
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So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
My point is that its not fair to point to an entire race of people and say, "the fact that people who look like you committed x,y,z, crime makes you just like them; therefore you are all linked." How is that even remotely fair, bullcat? I can't pin the KKK's crimes on every white person, why should YOU pin every crime an evil black has committed on EVERY black?
There's no comparison.
Evil whites are a tiny % of the white population. Evil blacks are a huge % of the black population.
So YES, it is appropriate to tar blacks with the brush of the evil ones whilst not doing the same with whites. Unfair? Maybe. But that's the way it is. Statistics are statistics.
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First off - weren't we talking about Fat Albert Sharpton and Jesse Mumbles Jackson?
You asked -
So its okay to bind ALL blacks with evil blacks, but not okay to bind ALL whites with the likes of the KKK (an EVIL white group)..or perhaps a white child molester and such?
Have the KKK touched your life? If so - you may need to judge all people based on what they have done to you.
I say - Do what you have to do to survive! ::)
If you are robbed at gunpoint by a purple man - I'm sure that you will look at all purple men differently. If not you are crazier then a JuneBug :o..
If there is no outcry against the evil behavior of Al and Jesse - then you guys own them or they own you.
The KKK does not represent me or most whites in any capacity - but if they bother you I could understand why you might be leary of all whites.
Whatever. I'm from NYC - I've never seen any people dressed in white sheets...except maybe at a toga party ;).
I know for a fact that even if the kKK did nothing to me personally (besides [censored] me off with their incessive hatred of people of other races) I KNOW I'd never hate ALL whites because of it. Just like I dispise the white man of yesteryear (he's dead now.so it really dosen't matter, but) I don't blame the white man/woman or child of today for slavery. That just isn't fair. And if you're looking for me to say so, you're going to be waiting a long while, bullcat..I'm not budging!
I was treated like crap by a white 1st grade teacher I had ..in fact every black kid in our class was... She would often tell us we were stupid and such. She even prevented me from going to the nurse's office after I was knocked unconcious on my way to school one morning. When I awakened, I was late for class...so being the 6 year old I was..I ran to class and she didn't want to hear any excuses... even with a huge knot on my head and me telling her that I was dizzy and didn't feel good. SHe had me do 20 lines "I will not be late for class or forget my glasses." .then told me I coudln't go to lunch. When I wheezed and cried,she constantly told me I was disrupting class and faking an illness. Long story short, when I made it to my apartment building and someone found me passed out in our building's office after (um, you know) , I was rushed to the hospital and told my mom what had happened. My mom went up to the school, gave the teacher a peice of her mind and all the teacher could say was ..."I thought she was faking...." My mom whipped out the doctor's note and the teacher turned red. A few incidents with other children arose and then she was let go.
Now I told you that to say this... Although I still dislike that lady, she didn't make me bitter toward all white people. I went on to have GREAT white teacher, went to college and made OUTSTANDING white friends, got married and met MORE terrific white friends and friends of different cultures other than mine on our travels as a military family. I LOVE those who respect me...but you're not required to love me back though. Those who disrespect me, earn disrespect from me. And I would think the same would go for me. If I disrespect you, you don't have to respect me. I'm in the wrong.
YOU aren't to blame for the way the teacher treated her black class, so why should I be on 'white watch' against you?
And I want to tell you something... Before we left Okinawa in 2002, there was talk of the Klan possibly moving there and having a rally there. What would be our next duty station? Garden City,Ny. lol I was so afraid of maybe going into Times Square and running into one of those sheet-clad clowns and having to run from them... but nothing came of it. We lived there for 3 1/2 years. Because New Yorkers stood up for the Klan not being part of their melting pot, they didn't move there.
Why do you use the word hate?
Did I tell you to hate anyone?
Why do you hate the white man of yesteryear? Were they all evil? I don't think so.
That is a terrible story you told.
If that happened to me...I would be very leary of every white teacher I ever had again.
I use the word hate because its a terrifying emotion that could cause people to do strange and stupid things like hang nooses on a tree, hang nooses on someone's office door, pull a gun on someone of opposite color, or beat up someone of another color simply because they are who they are...
NO you didn't tell me to hate anyone but you suggested that I should beware of all whites even if one white person hurts me; and I think that you said that because that's how you came out after your hurtful situations with evil blacks.
NO not ALL white men of yesteryear were evil, just those who were slave masters. I'm not talking about the abolitionists who faught and helped blacks escape from slavery.
As for my story, I don't hold grudges very well in this life. As a slave I might have held several, but thankfully I wasn't born at that time. I mean, I've been hurt physically and mentally from black people also, but I'll never take what I experienced out on EVERY black person either. That just wouldn't make sense to me.
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I'm just a bit too busy to hang nooses from trees ;) so don't mistake me for the KKK. I'm just a person who judges the situation around me - if I don't like it I'm out of there.
I admire your ability to be so forgiving.
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I'm just a bit too busy to hang nooses from trees ;) so don't mistake me for the KKK. I'm just a person who judges the situation around me - if I don't like it I'm out of there.
I admire your ability to be so forgiving.
There is nothing wrong with being careful. I'm nice but I'm always looking behind me to make sure I'm not being followed by "crazy" :o, I do it especially when I'm walking with my girls because "crazy" dosen't care WHAT color you are.
Its not something that came easily to me, I'll tell you (being forgiving). As you can tell, I still have something against my 1st grade teacher and the incident was 27 years ago. I still have something against my uncle >:( for molesting me when I was 5 and that was 28 years ago, and I still have something against the >:( who raped me and that was 16 years ago. I am just really careful how I treat others because of how I was treated before. Instead of rushing into frienships with people by taking 10 steps forward, I take 5 instead. When they show me who they really are, I back off as if I never knew them. Its a process.
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I'm just a bit too busy to hang nooses from trees ;) so don't mistake me for the KKK. I'm just a person who judges the situation around me - if I don't like it I'm out of there.
I admire your ability to be so forgiving.
There is nothing wrong with being careful. I'm nice but I'm always looking behind me to make sure I'm not being followed by "crazy" :o, I do it especially when I'm walking with my girls because "crazy" dosen't care WHAT color you are.
Its not something that came easily to me, I'll tell you (being forgiving). As you can tell, I still have something against my 1st grade teacher and the incident was 27 years ago. I still have something against my uncle >:( for molesting me when I was 5 and that was 28 years ago, and I still have something against the >:( who raped me and that was 16 years ago. I am just really careful how I treat others because of how I was treated before. Instead of rushing into frienships with people by taking 10 steps forward, I take 5 instead. When they show me who they really are, I back off as if I never knew them. Its a process.
Erica the day of black folks having to be fearful of whites in the context of racial violence is a thing of the past in most parts of the country. The fact that today more than ever black folks shop live and work in the same neighborhoods as white folks do and feel safe is a tribute to that fact. Sadly the reverse is not the case. Today young black folks seem to feel its pay back time if a white is in a place where he is outnumbered there is a good chance that he or she will have some sort of consultation to deal with. This is why white folks like myself are always vigilant when I go into a place where I as a white am in the minority.
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I'm just a bit too busy to hang nooses from trees ;) so don't mistake me for the KKK. I'm just a person who judges the situation around me - if I don't like it I'm out of there.
I admire your ability to be so forgiving.
There is nothing wrong with being careful. I'm nice but I'm always looking behind me to make sure I'm not being followed by "crazy" :o, I do it especially when I'm walking with my girls because "crazy" dosen't care WHAT color you are.
Its not something that came easily to me, I'll tell you (being forgiving). As you can tell, I still have something against my 1st grade teacher and the incident was 27 years ago. I still have something against my uncle >:( for molesting me when I was 5 and that was 28 years ago, and I still have something against the >:( who raped me and that was 16 years ago. I am just really careful how I treat others because of how I was treated before. Instead of rushing into frienships with people by taking 10 steps forward, I take 5 instead. When they show me who they really are, I back off as if I never knew them. Its a process.
Erica the day of black folks having to be fearful of whites in the context of racial violence is a thing of the past in most parts of the country. The fact that today more than ever black folks shop live and work in the same neighborhoods as white folks do and feel safe is a tribute to that fact. Sadly the reverse is not the case. Today young black folks seem to feel its pay back time if a white is in a place where he is outnumbered there is a good chance that he or she will have some sort of consultation to deal with. This is why white folks like myself are always vigilant when I go into a place where I as a white am in the minority.
Did you take me looking out for "crazy" to mean I'm looking out for the crazy white man? I assure you, I'm speaking of ANYONE crazy. THeir face dosen't have to be white.
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As usual this will go on and on. What the blacks do is to try this into a drug that us called white guilt and make whites take this drug. This is what keeps white nitwit liberals so shakey and sissy like when confronted by activists. This white guilt is given to white school children and it administered on PBS, NPR and the public school system. There was a perfect example of the white guilt drug addicted in the rally that was straged at the peoples university named columbia in which a noose was hung on an affrimative action [censored] professor. White guilt addicted came from all over to 'shoot up' their guilt on the steps of the building where this end of the world horror story unfolded. The usual cliches were thrown about, kumbaya was heard sung as well as we will overcome the white man. White gult spreads faster the crack and meth. Of all the drugs white guilt is the worst. It destroys the mind and soul of weak white morons who probalby have other severe mental problems. Yes, Jena will live on and on. A thousand years from now, when america has completely turned brown and black, they will sit on the rubble and garbage heaps where once great buildings stood, around a campfire telling the story of jena and how they used it to conquer the white man.
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As usual this will go on and on. What the blacks do is to try this into a drug that us called white guilt and make whites take this drug. This is what keeps white nitwit liberals so shakey and sissy like when confronted by activists. This white guilt is given to white school children and it administered on PBS, NPR and the public school system. There was a perfect example of the white guilt drug addicted in the rally that was straged at the peoples university named columbia in which a noose was hung on an affrimative action [censored] professor. White guilt addicted came from all over to 'shoot up' their guilt on the steps of the building where this end of the world horror story unfolded. The usual cliches were thrown about, kumbaya was heard sung as well as we will overcome the white man. White gult spreads faster the crack and meth. Of all the drugs white guilt is the worst. It destroys the mind and soul of weak white morons who probalby have other severe mental problems. Yes, Jena will live on and on. A thousand years from now, when america has completely turned brown and black, they will sit on the rubble and garbage heaps where once great buildings stood, around a campfire telling the story of jena and how they used it to conquer the white man.
The terrifying thing about this is that you actually believe what you just typed.
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I sure do believe what I wrote. It will get worse. As the numbers of the turd world hordes continue to rise, the infra stuctrure will fall into disrepair, and the turd worlders will destroy the standing structures and build huts, just like the hell hole they created in the mother land. Raw sewage will run in the streets, bed bugs, infections once thought cured will arise again, crime will be an everymoment occurance, roaming bands of gangs will hold sway. It will be the end of civilization. Due to affrimative action the only medical care will come from voodoo priests and other assorted turd world sciences. They will be no formal education since it will be deemed 'too white and therefore racist'. There will be witchdoctors who will spine tales of things that never existed and lead the turd worlders down the road to more ignorance, if that is possible. Yes you and your mexicrap bro and hos will be on your own free from the white men and all his medicine, inventions, and thoughts. It will be a wonderful place, raw sewage everywhere, sickness and violence. That is what the blacks want and I hope they get it. If there is any way I can help to show the blacks how to self destruct faster, please let me know.
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I sure do believe what I wrote. It will get worse. As the numbers of the turd world hordes continue to rise, the infra stuctrure will fall into disrepair, and the turd worlders will destroy the standing structures and build huts, just like the hell hole they created in the mother land. Raw sewage will run in the streets, bed bugs, infections once thought cured will arise again, crime will be an everymoment occurance, roaming bands of gangs will hold sway. It will be the end of civilization. Due to affrimative action the only medical care will come from voodoo priests and other assorted turd world sciences. They will be no formal education since it will be deemed 'too white and therefore racist'. There will be witchdoctors who will spine tales of things that never existed and lead the turd worlders down the road to more ignorance, if that is possible. Yes you and your mexicrap bro and hos will be on your own free from the white men and all his medicine, inventions, and thoughts. It will be a wonderful place, raw sewage everywhere, sickness and violence. That is what the blacks want and I hope they get it. If there is any way I can help to show the blacks how to self destruct faster, please let me know.
You have some deeply-rooted issues. I don't have any Mexican brothers or sisters and I don't want what you think I want. I'm actually tired of responding to you though. You make no sense at all. I'm someone who wants to change the world for the better; therefore you're barking up the wrong tree, fjack. If you're angry about the state things are at now, do something about it. Stop trying to be Nostrodamas. You can't possibly know if all of that is going to happen. You're just being negative.
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Erica - the writing is on the wall - FJack doesn't have to be Nostradamus - he just has to have eyes.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
O0 Excellent post FJack! I say send Angelina and Brad into the wild, instead of a secure compound/hotel with body gaurds, and see how they fare in Africa.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
O0 Excellent post FJack! I say send Angelina and Brad into the wild, instead of a secure compound/hotel with body gaurds, and see how they fare in Africa.
Bullcat, I understand that you've been badly burned by your experiences with evil blacks. I can't help you stop fearing blacks in general. That's a psychological issue of which I'm not qualified to give advice. I just hope that you have a wonderful life despite all of the horrible things that happened to you because of evil blacks.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
Fjack, I cannot subscribe to the craziness you're speaking of. I think that before all of this catastrophic 'blacks taking over the world and owning white people' craziness ::) happens ::) , an asteroid, a thing with no racial preference of who it will kill first or last... will crash into our troubled world and we'll ALL be done for. lol (Of course I don't believe that either but you get the point... LIGHTEN UP! ) I dont' want your land. I don't want whatever place you hold in your life! I don't want your job! I don't want your home! I don't want your life. How you feel about where your life is heading so far is NOT MY FAULT. I think you have to fix some things in your own life before blaming ALL black people for the reason that you're so pissed off with the world.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
O0 Excellent post FJack! I say send Angelina and Brad into the wild, instead of a secure compound/hotel with body gaurds, and see how they fare in Africa.
Bullcat, I understand that you've been badly burned by your experiences with evil blacks. I can't help you stop fearing blacks in general. That's a psychological issue of which I'm not qualified to give advice. I just hope that you have a wonderful life despite all of the horrible things that happened to you because of evil blacks.
How dare you...I don't have a psychological issue. You are an idiot.
I think you need a reality check or to take your head out of the sand.
I despise evil black people - and you are starting to make me despise black people in general with your holier then thou attitude. Take it and shove it.
You are a sorry ass race of people. No culture. No morals. Still stuck on slavery. Still expecting a handout. Still always pointing out the color of your skin. [censored] and Moaning all the way while enjoying affirmative action advantages. If your race does get ahead - some how some way they will throw it all down the crapper - look at your million dollar athletes(read criminals). Don't address me anymore! I don't need any of your advice or conversation.
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The writing is on the wall, the chain of events have started already. We are headed for doom is severe and drastic action is not taken to turn this situation around, I am sorry but that is the way it is. The traitors in washington must be thrown out and a new mindset must be established. A mindset that will bring back common sense to government, a change of societies priorities and morals, and if you don't want to follow the rules of a civilized society you will be shown the door to a more 'liberal lifestyle' in an african country that is run by a backward, ignorant savage like mugarbage. Of course we will send bono over there to make you feel better and tell you it is not your fault. I would send madonna tramp and angelina over there, and instead of them purchasing negroes, I would like negroes purchase them.
O0 Excellent post FJack! I say send Angelina and Brad into the wild, instead of a secure compound/hotel with body gaurds, and see how they fare in Africa.
Bullcat, I understand that you've been badly burned by your experiences with evil blacks. I can't help you stop fearing blacks in general. That's a psychological issue of which I'm not qualified to give advice. I just hope that you have a wonderful life despite all of the horrible things that happened to you because of evil blacks.
How dare you...I don't have a psychological issue. You are an idiot.
I think you need a reality check or to take your head out of the sand.
I despise evil black people - and you are starting to make me despise black people in general with your holier then thou attitude. Take it and shove it.
You are a sorry donkey race of people. No culture. No morals. Still stuck on slavery. Still expecting a handout. Still always pointing out the color of your skin. [censored] and Moaning all the way while enjoying affirmative action advantages. If your race does get ahead - some how some way they will throw it all down the crapper - look at your million dollar athletes(read criminals). Don't address me anymore! I don't need any of your advice or conversation.
With respect to you bullcat, I wasn't being cheeky when I posted you that message. I used what you told me about how you felt about evil blacks and I tried to comfort you by saying that I hope that things get better for you. YOU even said that you were so badly burned by evil blacks that you feel that you have to protect yourself from us all. I didn't make that up. Those were your feelings and your words.
I'm not holier than thou, but I do understand what a psychological issue is especially when it involves you being hurt by people. As a sexual abuse survivor, I look at men and judge them before I get to know them because I have to protect myself and my girls FIRST. I'm relating to your pain and confusion. What I have experienced has done a number on my psyche, just as what was done to you. If you don't want to respond to me anymore because I care about how you feel and wished you well in your life (by the way, no one was calling you crazy...) so be it.
But understand, you may have just repeated what a lot of JTF'ers think about black people, but I know how you really are. You aren't like them. You hate evil blacks, yes, but you've never reacted like this to me before. I disagree with you a lot on these boards but as much as we disagree, you've never been the type to act that way. So I'll just take what I learned from you and dedicate it to memory. You never have to respond to me again...and I won't respond to you either.
Much Respect. *No matter what you think.*
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I'm sorry Erica - for not responding to you in a calmer manner - it has been a long day.
I just don't like your putting words in my mouth. I do not fear all black people. I just don't give black people I encounter the benefit of the doubt right off the bat. If I don't like what I see or hear - I won't deal with them. If I had a psychological issue - I would never have anything to do with people of the black race
I don't have a psychological issue - I think I'm rather a healthy minded person. I learn from past experience. Don't put yourself at risk.
Of the three violent crimes that occured in my family at the hands of blacks - in only one circumstance did that person put herself at risk - the rest were random acts of violence.
I'm too tired to debate you on this issue - maybe on another day.
I'll take my mental sanity/clarity and put it to bed now. ;)
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As I predicted the Jena 6 is another case of the mass media, sharpton and jesse to line their pockets and spread the addiction of white guilt. This has been going on too long. Every time a slave, excuse me ex-slave, says it is a racial thing we must remember the duke rape case, the bwana twana banana hoax and the endless hoaxes regarding whites hanging 'nooses'. It seems the vast majority of these 'nooses on the loose' have been done by darkies themselves. How about the columbia situation. Where are the pictures that columbia, having reviewed them didn't want to turn over to the cops. Why have the cops held back on showing these pixs. Is it because it was put up by that affrimative action hotentot. Fill in the blanks. The morons in the New York State government want to make noose hanging a felony. Does that mean if a noose is hung by a primative sub human, the white hater will be charged with a felony. If you think so you are wrong. According to the way the law is being written, it is a felony for a white to hang a noose. How I hate politicians, especially the white ones. Well dear posters here is another little tidbit regarding the Jena 6. I hope erica enjoys it as she cornrows her hair.
from the October 24, 2007 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1024/p09s01-coop.html
Media myths about the Jena 6
A local journalist tells the story you haven't heard.
By Craig Franklin
Jena, La.
By now, almost everyone in America has heard of Jena, La., because they've all heard the story of the "Jena 6." White students hanging nooses barely punished, a schoolyard fight, excessive punishment for the six black attackers, racist local officials, public outrage and protests – the outside media made sure everyone knew the basics.
There's just one problem: The media got most of the basics wrong. In fact, I have never before witnessed such a disgrace in professional journalism. Myths replaced facts, and journalists abdicated their solemn duty to investigate every claim because they were seduced by a powerfully appealing but false narrative of racial injustice.
I should know. I live in Jena. My wife has taught at Jena High School for many years. And most important, I am probably the only reporter who has covered these events from the very beginning.
The reason the Jena cases have been propelled into the world spotlight is two-fold: First, because local officials did not speak publicly early on about the true events of the past year, the media simply formed their stories based on one-side's statements – the Jena 6. Second, the media were downright lazy in their efforts to find the truth. Often, they simply reported what they'd read on blogs, which expressed only one side of the issue.
The real story of Jena and the Jena 6 is quite different from what the national media presented. It's time to set the record straight.
Myth 1: The Whites-Only Tree. There has never been a "whites-only" tree at Jena High School. Students of all races sat underneath this tree. When a student asked during an assembly at the start of school last year if anyone could sit under the tree, it evoked laughter from everyone present – blacks and whites. As reported by students in the assembly, the question was asked to make a joke and to drag out the assembly and avoid class.
Myth 2: Nooses a Signal to Black Students. An investigation by school officials, police, and an FBI agent revealed the true motivation behind the placing of two nooses in the tree the day after the assembly. According to the expulsion committee, the crudely constructed nooses were not aimed at black students. Instead, they were understood to be a prank by three white students aimed at their fellow white friends, members of the school rodeo team. (The students apparently got the idea from watching episodes of "Lonesome Dove.") The committee further concluded that the three young teens had no knowledge that nooses symbolize the terrible legacy of the lynchings of countless blacks in American history. When informed of this history by school officials, they became visibly remorseful because they had many black friends. Another myth concerns their punishment, which was not a three-day suspension, but rather nine days at an alternative facility followed by two weeks of in-school suspension, Saturday detentions, attendance at Discipline Court, and evaluation by licensed mental-health professionals. The students who hung the nooses have not publicly come forward to give their version of events.
Myth 3: Nooses Were a Hate Crime. Although many believe the three white students should have been prosecuted for a hate crime for hanging the nooses, the incident did not meet the legal criteria for a federal hate crime. It also did not meet the standard for Louisiana's hate-crime statute, and though widely condemned by all officials, there was no crime to charge the youths with.
Myth 4: DA's Threat to Black Students. When District Attorney Reed Walters spoke to Jena High students at an assembly in September, he did not tell black students that he could make their life miserable with "the stroke of a pen." Instead, according to Walters, "two or three girls, white girls, were chit-chatting on their cellphones or playing with their cellphones right in the middle of my dissertation. I got a little irritated at them and said, 'Pay attention to me. I am right now having to deal with an aggravated rape case where I've got to decide whether the death penalty applies or not.' I said, 'Look, I can be your best friend or your worst enemy. With the stroke of a pen I can make your life miserable so I want you to call me before you do something stupid.'"
Mr. Walters had been called to the assembly by police, who had been at the school earlier that day dealing with some students who were causing disturbances. Teachers and students have confirmed Walters's version of events.
Myth 5: The Fair Barn Party Incident. On Dec. 1, 2006, a private party – not an all-white party as reported – was held at the local community center called the Fair Barn. Robert Bailey Jr., soon to be one of the Jena 6, came to the party with others seeking admittance.
When they were denied entrance by the renter of the facility, a white male named Justin Sloan (not a Jena High student) at the party attacked Bailey and hit him in the face with his fist. This is reported in witness statements to police, including the victim, Robert Bailey, Jr.
Months later, Bailey contended he was hit in the head with a beer bottle and required stitches. No medical records show this ever occurred. Mr. Sloan was prosecuted for simple battery, which according to Louisiana law, is the proper charge for hitting someone with a fist.
Myth 6: The "Gotta-Go" Grocery Incident. On Dec. 2, 2006, Bailey and two other black Jena High students were involved in an altercation at this local convenience store, stemming from the incident that occurred the night before. The three were accused by police of jumping a white man as he entered the store and stealing a shotgun from him. The two parties gave conflicting statements to police. However, two unrelated eye witnesses of the event gave statements that corresponded with that of the white male.
Myth 7: The Schoolyard Fight. The event on Dec. 4, 2006 was consistently labeled a "schoolyard fight." But witnesses described something much more horrific. Several black students, including those now known as the Jena 6, barricaded an exit to the school's gym as they lay in wait for Justin Barker to exit. (It remains unclear why Mr. Barker was specifically targeted.)
When Barker tried to leave through another exit, court testimony indicates, he was hit from behind by Mychal Bell. Multiple witnesses confirmed that Barker was immediately knocked unconscious and lay on the floor defenseless as several other black students joined together to kick and stomp him, with most of the blows striking his head. Police speculate that the motivation for the attack was related to the racially charged fights that had occurred during the previous weekend.
Myth 8: The Attack Is Linked to the Nooses. Nowhere in any of the evidence, including statements by witnesses and defendants, is there any reference to the noose incident that occurred three months prior. This was confirmed by the United States attorney for the Western District of Louisiana, Donald Washington, on numerous occasions.
Myth 9: Mychal Bell's All-White Jury. While it is true that Mychal Bell was convicted as an adult by an all-white jury in June (a conviction that was later overturned with his case sent to juvenile court), the jury selection process was completely legal and withstood an investigation by the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. Court officials insist that several black residents were summoned for jury duty, but did not appear.
Myth 10: Jena 6 as Model Youth. While some members were simply caught up in the moment, others had criminal records. Bell had at least four prior violent-crime arrests before the December attack, and was on probation during most of this year.
Myth 11: Jena Is One of the Most Racist Towns in America. Actually, Jena is a wonderful place to live for both whites and blacks. The media's distortion and outright lies concerning the case have given this rural Louisiana town a label it doesn't deserve.
Myth 12: Two Levels of Justice. Outside protesters were convinced that the prosecution of the Jena 6 was proof of a racially biased system of justice. But the US Justice Department's investigation found no evidence to support such a claim. In fact, the percentage of blacks and whites prosecuted matches the parish's population statistics.
These are just 12 of many myths that are portrayed as fact in the media concerning the Jena cases. (A more thorough review of all events can be found at www.thejenatimes.net – click on Chronological Order of Events.)
As with the Duke Lacrosse case, the truth about Jena will eventually be known. But the town of Jena isn't expecting any apologies from the media. They will probably never admit their error and have already moved on to the next "big" story. Meanwhile in Jena, residents are getting back to their regular routines, where friends are friends regardless of race. Just as it has been all along.
• Craig Franklin is assistant editor of The Jena Times.