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Title: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on March 27, 2022, 07:47:37 AM
https://www.total-croatia-news.com/politics/61511-10-409-ukrainian-refugees-have-arrived-in-croatia
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Ron on March 27, 2022, 07:34:20 PM
So far over 20k killed on both sides in this war. Hasn't been this fun since the peak of the Syrian civil war. Lets hope for many more!
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on March 28, 2022, 12:50:36 AM
So far over 20k killed on both sides in this war. Hasn't been this fun since the peak of the Syrian civil war. Lets hope for many more!

Those are disgusting words which contradict God's word: "Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live?" (Ezekiel 18:23)

There's a story in the Gemara of 2 rebellious Jews who would constantly greatly bother Rebbi Meir and they would hurt the faith of other Jews, and Rebbi Meir started to pray that Hashem should take away their lives, that there's no point for creations like that to continue existing, but his righteous wife Bruria overheard his prayer praying for the wicked to pass away and rebuked her husband and told him "stop praying for them to pass away! Rather pray that they change their ways and return to Torah!" And he did, and they ended up fully repenting and devoting their lives to become great in Torah knowledge.

I don't wish death upon anyone, including Arabs. They should stay in their own lands and live very long and very happy lives. 
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on March 28, 2022, 04:05:09 AM
There is another pertinent point. Chaim did not injure or kill Russians when he fought to free Soviet Jews. He went out of his way to ensure that no Russian got injured in his bombing campaigns because he understood the sanctity of life.
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Ron on March 30, 2022, 04:00:01 PM
Those are disgusting words which contradict God's word: "Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live?" (Ezekiel 18:23)

There's a story in the Gemara of 2 rebellious Jews who would constantly greatly bother Rebbi Meir and they would hurt the faith of other Jews, and Rebbi Meir started to pray that Hashem should take away their lives, that there's no point for creations like that to continue existing, but his righteous wife Bruria overheard his prayer praying for the wicked to pass away and rebuked her husband and told him "stop praying for them to pass away! Rather pray that they change their ways and return to Torah!" And he did, and they ended up fully repenting and devoting their lives to become great in Torah knowledge.

I don't wish death upon anyone, including Arabs. They should stay in their own lands and live very long and very happy lives.

The first verse you quoted out of context talks about Jews who already repented for their sins, not Amalek who are very proud of being Amalek.

The story you brought is talking about Jews who caused terrible noise that bothered Rabbi Meir and made him unable to focus on his Torah study. Not Amalekites who threw Jewish kids to wells and shot their parents in the head in the "Holocaust of Bullets", and glorify this monstrous mass murder to this very day.

You are calling yourself a Noahide, but you are preaching for Christian "morals" (that brought endless misery to the entire world). In Judaism there is no giving the other cheek or loving the enemies.

When Amalekites die Jews are happy, we celebrated the death of one famous Amalekite (Haman) and his henchmen as recently as this Purim.

"when the wicked perish, there is song" (Proverbs 11:10)

"Your enemies will lie to you, but you will tread upon their heights" (Deuteronomy 33:29)
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Ron on March 30, 2022, 04:02:43 PM
There is another pertinent point. Chaim did not injure or kill Russians when he fought to free Soviet Jews. He went out of his way to ensure that no Russian got injured in his bombing campaigns because he understood the sanctity of life.

The only reason Chaim did not kill Russian diplomats is because he knew that would not help Soviet Jews. The Russians were not murdering Jews at the time and to kill Russian diplomats would have been an escalation that would have forced the Soviets to kill Russian Jews in retaliation. So Chaim and the JDL damaged Soviet property, blew up empty Soviet diplomatic cars, teargassed Soviet ballet performances etc.
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Hrvatski Noahid on March 30, 2022, 04:19:14 PM
The first verse you quoted out of context talks about Jews who already repented for their sins, not Amalek who are very proud of being Amalek.

The story you brought is talking about Jews who caused terrible noise that bothered Rabbi Meir and made him unable to focus on his Torah study. Not Amalekites who threw Jewish kids to wells and shot their parents in the head in the "Holocaust of Bullets", and glorify this monstrous mass murder to this very day.

You are calling yourself a Noahide, but you are preaching for Christian "morals" (that brought endless misery to the entire world). In Judaism there is no giving the other cheek or loving the enemies.

When Amalekites die Jews are happy, we celebrated the death of one famous Amalekite (Haman) and his henchmen as recently as this Purim.

"when the wicked perish, there is song" (Proverbs 11:10)

"Your enemies will lie to you, but you will tread upon their heights" (Deuteronomy 33:29)

Saving a person's life is a positive aspect of the Noahide prohibition of murder according to the Divine Code by Rabbi Weiner, Second Edition, p 449. This isn't Christian morals. You believe they aren't worth saving. I believe they are. I won't push this issue with you.

Can you please post the new thread for ask JTF? 
Title: Re: 10,409 Ukrainian Refugees Have arrived in Croatia
Post by: Ron on March 30, 2022, 04:38:50 PM
Saving a person's life is a positive aspect of the Noahide prohibition of murder according to the Divine Code by Rabbi Weiner, Second Edition, p 449. This isn't Christian morals. You believe they aren't worth saving. I believe they are. I won't push this issue with you.

Can you please post the new thread for ask JTF?

You are intentionally and disingenuously misinterpreting the word "person". That's not the reason you are shilling for Ukraine.