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Title: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: admin on October 08, 2007, 08:03:38 PM
What do you think?

Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 08:14:29 PM
Its a personal choice, I have earings, my ears have been pierced since I was a few months old, no tatoos (fear of needles, plus I just dont like them for me) but I think each person as long as they are an adult should make their own mind up.
Not everyone with a tatoo is bad, my brother has a couple(he got while in the service), and served his country for 15 years and is now on the way to becoming a police officer ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2007, 08:33:01 PM
Hell NO! I have my ears pierced (Twice)

and I have two tattoos, second done only a week ago.

But I am one of the unforgiven so it doesn't matter anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: nopeaceforland on October 08, 2007, 08:34:25 PM
If a guy has piercings, I think "what part of Greenwich Village, South Beach or San Francisco does this person hail from?". If a guy has tattoos, I wonder "which trailer park is he from?". I feel women are the only ones that should have ear piercings and nothing else otherwise it's a major turnoff. I may be old fashioned, but that the way I feel about it.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
No, I just have earings in my ears.

There is nothing immoral about my brother at all, he has sacrificed personal needs and wants to serve his country and fellow American for the past 15 years.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2007, 08:37:01 PM


There is nothing immoral about my brother at all, he has sacrificed personal needs and wants to serve his country and fellow American for the past 15 years.


Damn right :)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2007, 08:38:40 PM
Hell NO! I have my ears pierced (Twice)

and I have two tattoos, second done only a week ago.

But I am one of the unforgiven so it doesn't matter anyway  ;)


But aren't you Jewish?

I think Jews with tattoos can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery.



I am one of the damned my friend I would be lucky if anyone throw dirt over me.  ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 08:42:39 PM
Well he watched his childhood friend, a great young man who had practically grown up with us have his head blown off right in front of him, so he decided as a tribute to have his friends name, along with the symbol for their company and the date tatooed, he also has an eagle with 9-11-01 "why we fight" on his shoulderblade.
He is on his way to becomming a police officer, special weapons team, so once again he will serve his country.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 08, 2007, 08:49:57 PM
Well he watched his childhood friend, a great young man who had practically grown up with us have his head blown off right in front of him, so he decided as a tribute to have his friends name, along with the symbol for their company and the date tatooed, he also has an eagle with 9-11-01 "why we fight" on his shoulderblade.
He is on his way to becomming a police officer, special weapons team, so once again he will serve his country.

I am sorry to hear that, and I am glad he is becoming a police officer, and I hope all goes well for him.

What people don't understand many get tats for personal reasons such as this.

I think your brother Kellymaureen is a fine man. I know you are very proud of him, so every American should be too.

To serve ones country is one of the greatest things you can do.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 08:55:37 PM
Thank you Infidel, I am very proud of him...hes getting married next weekend as well so we have something else to celebrate :)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 08:58:05 PM
Youre entitled to your opinion but I will not have my brother being called immoral...tatoos in the military have been around for decades...so its "immoral" men like him who have spilled their blood, and lost their lives so that YOU can have the freedom to express an opinon.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 09:10:12 PM
I dont know, hes 35 years old, and made that decision for himself.  His tatoos arent where they can be seen, they are personal for him only, not for display.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on October 08, 2007, 09:15:34 PM
No.

They honestly in and of themselves do not bother me.

I myself have none, and do not foresee myself ever indulging in such, but when Muslims are taking over the country, it's kind of difficult to get upset over tats.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 08, 2007, 09:21:29 PM
i only wear one earing in each ear
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 08, 2007, 09:35:41 PM
Did you used to have more than that? My sister has a few so I told her she has slut ears.



Well that's quite a rude thing to say to your sister!
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: White Israelite on October 08, 2007, 09:36:48 PM
Practically all my friends in the military have tattoos, I'm against banning them. I don't have one but I know Jews who do have them, Bill Goldberg the wrestler has one on his arm.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: AussieJTFer on October 08, 2007, 09:38:14 PM
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I would never want to marry a woman with tattoos or body piercings and I prefer if she only has one earring per ear. And she has to be a virgin and to never have had any of those savage practices on her body in the past.

How on earth will you find a woman like that? 99% of women lose their virginity in their mid to late teens, way before marriage. Feminism has created generations of immoral women.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: cjd on October 08, 2007, 09:47:32 PM
i only wear one earing in each ear
Kellymaureen has it right one earring in each ear anything more that that is falling into the African culture. Piercing in the nose and elsewhere is disgusting. For me this is a instant turnoff. Tattoos really should be outlawed the people who have been infected  with pathogen diseases such as Aids and Hepatitis from the dirty places that do this stuff and are walking around unknowingly would surprise most people. 
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: cjd on October 08, 2007, 09:52:58 PM
Did you used to have more than that? My sister has a few so I told her she has slut ears.



Well that's quite a rude thing to say to your sister!
Yacov is right telling her that he is giving her good advice. She should remove the earrings and let the piercings close up in time. One set of earrings is enough!
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: nessuno on October 08, 2007, 09:54:39 PM
I saw a woman once who had a large tattoo of heart in the middle of her chest.  After cardiac bypass surgery the two halfs of the heart did not match up - I wonder if the surgeons did that on purpose. ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 08, 2007, 09:55:01 PM
i think the little tiny ones on the nose are cute too...some Indian women do it and sometimes it looks nice..but it has to be really really small.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: cjd on October 08, 2007, 09:56:44 PM
I saw a woman once who had a large tattoo of heart in the middle of her chest.  After cardiac bypass surgery the two halfs of the heart did not match up - I wonder if the surgeons did that on purpose. ;)

Serves her right ;D
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: cjd on October 08, 2007, 10:17:53 PM
I know a guy in the military who has each ear pierced in 2 places.  He doesn't wear earrings to work because he's not allowed, but you can tell his ears are pierced.  I guess I'll have to tell him he has slut ears.
Na a guy that has that is just an A-s. One earring on a guy is bad enough. I am sort of old and I guess the world is changing but that really is sort of flaky.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: mord on October 09, 2007, 12:26:41 PM
Yes Jews with tatos can be buried in Jewish  cememeterys
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: mord on October 09, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
No i'mpretty sure they can people who committed suicide have a special section
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Ultra Requete on October 09, 2007, 01:54:08 PM
I dont have any and don't plant to have; not becouse I'm planing to convert to Judaism; but becouse I'm civilesed man and proud of this O0; so alien costoms of barbarian heathens on inbreed pacific islands are not for me. This another fashion brought on confused youngsters by leftist liberals who hate our culture. >:(
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 09, 2007, 02:59:04 PM
No. In America definitely not. The Christian bible says nothing about it being taboo in getting a tattoo or body piercing. Most people who get these things aren't too religious though, even if they get religious symbols, chances are they don't live their lives the ways of Christianity. People with sound morals never get these things. Once America reobtains its Christian values, people will no longer be interested in getting them.

In Israel, it still shouldn't be banned. Though Jewish law does forbid the piering or tattooing one's self, how could it banned. The inevitable punishment from G-d and the inability to be buried in a Jewish cemetery is what should discourage Jews from getting these things. Plus, they will be considered outcasts from their fellow Jews. Taking these points into consideration, getting a tattoo or piercing will seem very unsavory to a Torah-true individual. Fining or putting the prepatrators in prison for this praticular obstruction doesn't seem like a fitting punishment. Plus, fining or enprisoning the perpatrator would be venturing outside Jewish law. Israel should be a Torah-true state, and its government shouldn't enforce anything other than Jewish law upon its people.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 09, 2007, 07:25:43 PM
No, I just have earings in my ears.

There is nothing immoral about my brother at all, he has sacrificed personal needs and wants to serve his country and fellow American for the past 15 years.



That is good of him but I don't understand why all these soldiers copy these pagan customs from savages in Africa.



Body piercing is a bad idea NOT because it has anything to do with African cultures. Why must everything tie into that? It's a bad idea because it can cause infection. The earlobe is the only safe place that you can get pierced with little chance of infection. Even then, you need to make sure you clean it regularly. Anywhere else on the body, you are increasing your risk of infection. So just based on that, I think it's a bad idea, but not because it's inheritantly evil, savage, pagan, or African!
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 09, 2007, 07:58:18 PM
The tongue earrings are the worse. And I saw something on Yahoo once where about 2,000 people in The World have split tongues. They say it's "better for oral sex" but worse for eating ice cream. One person said he will get each half pierced. Doctors say it can cause speech problems and even infection leading to death.




Hmm, I guess one needs to weigh the pros and cons here: Bad for ice cream? Good for oral sex! How do we balance that one out? :)

I guess we they can cancel each other out if someone with a pierced tongue eats ice cream while...
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 09, 2007, 08:02:10 PM
I think it's all cons. Oral sex is immoral in the first place.



Yeah, but it feels so goooooooooooooooooooood! ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 09, 2007, 08:13:39 PM
I've seen religious girls in Israel with eye earrings. And unfortunately, open stomach shirts and belly button earrings are VERY VERY common in Israel.


Well, then they're not as religious as they think they are. Defacing one's body is a violation of Jewish law and a very serious one. Those with tattoos cannot be buried in Jewish cemeteries. A pierced ear can always heal, but no one in the Orthodox movement gets these things. You'll certainly see plenty of Reform followers with them, but even Reform prohibits it, but Reform Jews tend to be very liberal, because Reform Judaism isn't strict enough and encourages too much liberal behavior. Yes, I realize there aren't many in Reform Jews in Israel, but there are still some. But maybe they're not liberals, maybe, they're just bad Jews. G-d wants us to leave our bodies in the state in which they were created. It is up to us to upkeep the being our bodies.

Why would one want to make a hole in their skin? Yes, it heals, but a self-enflicted gun shot wound would possibly heal, too. That doesn't mean it's right.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 09, 2007, 08:21:14 PM
I think it's all cons. Oral sex is immoral in the first place.



Yeah, but it feels so goooooooooooooooooooood! ;)


But degrading to the woman and it's in violation of the Biblical commandment not to waste seed.



I was just reminded and was referring to the question that was asked a couple of weeks ago on an Ask JTF show.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: mosquewatch on October 09, 2007, 08:27:04 PM
I have two tatts, not visible too the public. ON MY ARMS for those with the mind in the gutter. I like the both of them.  I have not mutilated my body. For those that disagree, no worries :)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 09, 2007, 08:29:16 PM
I have two tatts, not visible too the public. ON MY ARMS for those with the mind in the gutter. I like the both of them.  I have not mutilated my body. For those that disagree, no worries :)

No worries on my part. Just hope that admission doesn't get your wings stripped ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: mosquewatch on October 09, 2007, 08:34:30 PM
I have two tatts, not visible too the public. ON MY ARMS for those with the mind in the gutter. I like the both of them.  I have not mutilated my body. For those that disagree, no worries :)

No worries on my part. Just hope that admission doesn't get your wings stripped ;)

I do a great job at ....

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Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 09, 2007, 08:42:12 PM
I have a tattoo on my back shoulder it was done on the 1 year memorial of September 11, its of the Twin Towers in the hands of God being lifted up to Heaven and under it says R.I.P. and May God have mercy.  As far as this stuff goes,  I think there are worst things out there then a tattoo or piecing.  Like we come together about drugs in this country.  It is illegal and yet a lot of people die from drugs or will kill someone else for their hit.  Lets focus on something more realistic.  Some women have body piercing cause of their culture.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Barach Velvel ben Lazer Eliazer on October 09, 2007, 08:46:58 PM
There are some that say women can get any piercings as long as another woman is the one doing it to her but that men can't because it is crossdressing. These people believe that women can even get nipple or belly button earrings as long as they keep the piercings covered. I spoke to a religious girl online and she told me she got a nipple earring and that Former Ashkenazic Chief Rabbi of Israel Yisrael Meir Lau told her it's okay to do. She just said clitoral piercings are wrong because it can cause a woman not to enjoy sex (Unlike Islam, women have to be pleased by their husbands during sex so clitoris destruction is prohibited.) and could cause damage to the baby during birth.


I'm just going by the traditional view of Judaism that one's body is a temple and should be respected. Making a hole in your skin doesn't seem like keeping your body in good condition.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: genteelgentile on October 09, 2007, 08:52:22 PM
Tattoos and piercings should NOT be banned, but people who go overboard should definitely be ridiculed and made fun of...   :D
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 09, 2007, 08:55:20 PM
I have two tatts, not visible too the public. ON MY ARMS for those with the mind in the gutter. I like the both of them.  I have not mutilated my body. For those that disagree, no worries :)

OH Evil ..........................LMAO!
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: MasterWolf1 on October 09, 2007, 08:59:03 PM
I think things like tattoos and body piecing is a personal thing.  If I meet a woman and she has a great heart, loving caring and wonderful who I can see as my companion but she has a tattoo I am not going to say to her "hey hit the brinks cause of the tattoo"  I would rather count on that person's heart and if shes on the same level as I am on my beliefs.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 09, 2007, 09:06:21 PM
Wolf i think you are right , thats a great attitude.

Maybe there should be a thread where you show your tats.  8;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: genteelgentile on October 09, 2007, 09:18:11 PM
Make sure you spell that last word correctly.... ;)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: genteelgentile on October 09, 2007, 09:40:37 PM
Sorry, it was directed to Infidel, and my mind was gutter oriented...
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Jasmina on October 09, 2007, 10:02:17 PM
 >:(
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Ultra Requete on October 10, 2007, 03:37:42 AM
I have a tattoo on my back shoulder it was done on the 1 year memorial of September 11, its of the Twin Towers in the hands of G-d being lifted up to Heaven and under it says R.I.P. and May G-d have mercy.  As far as this stuff goes,  I think there are worst things out there then a tattoo or piecing.  Like we come together about drugs in this country.  It is illegal and yet a lot of people die from drugs or will kill someone else for their hit.  Lets focus on something more realistic.  Some women have body piercing cause of their culture.


But American culture does not allow body piercings. Indian culture allows nose earrings. Indians are civilized though. But African culture is not civilized and allows worse stuff.

The Masai warriors of Kenya stretch their ears so the ears themselves look like an earring hanging down and they also use all parts of the cow, its meat, its milk, its blood, and its urine. When I was in 9th Grade, there was an assembly in the auditorium where we saw a Masai warrior with the stretched ears speak to us. He told us that culture is different than ours but okay. I guess they were trying to spread diversity.



My friend you have right if someone want to scarr himself with tatoos and piercings and look like savage that his problem; but you cannotsay that's OK, moral and part of our culture! bTw this Massai was spreading diversion not diversity. ::)
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: newman on October 10, 2007, 03:59:23 AM
What do you think?



With one or two exceptions......muslims should ALL be bodily muilated!
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Ultra Requete on October 10, 2007, 04:03:36 AM
What do you think?



With one or two exceptions......muslims should ALL be bodily muilated!

Bull's aye!  O0
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Dr. Dan on October 10, 2007, 07:12:25 AM
yes, mutilating any of your body parts, like amputating your pinky toe should be banned...that is unless one has gangrene...Gd forbid.
Title: Re: Should body mutilations be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 10, 2007, 09:04:46 AM
Make sure you spell that last word correctly.... ;)

LOL brings new meaning to show and tell  :P