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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bodhi on October 10, 2007, 03:42:13 PM
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Whadday say (I wanted to make a poll but I couldn't figure it out)?......I say O0
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maybe it should in a limited way like in Canada or Netherlands
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Smoking marijuana is less harmful than smoking cigarettes. I don't smoke it but it should be someones choice if they want to smoke a plant or not as long as it's not affecting others.
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If G-d did not ban it in the Torah.
Why should we ban it?
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Drugs are one of the most evil things a Gentile or a Jew could take. They destroy the mind and body. It's basically a form of suicide, which Judaism considers to be a great sin. If we didn't have so many illegal Mexicans running around, drugs would be far less of a problem.
Drugs should remained banned forever.
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Cohen, I completely disagree with you. Marijuana is a lot worse than tobacco--it's just harder to gauge because people smoke less of it than tobacco and most users also smoke tobacco.
There is no legitimate reason for weed in society. You cannot enjoy it "responsibly" like you can a glass of wine. There is no way to enjoy weed without getting high.
I would be for banning the sale of tobacco. I am not sure about people growing it themselves for their own use. I detest it but it doesn't make people lose their senses like weed does.
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I don't think marijuana use is good, and generally it is destructive to most people who use it, although the use in banning it has disappeared long ago. It is so easy to acquire marijuana in the U.S., banning it has no more use anymore. The people have spoken, and they want to use marijuana. Is it any more harmful than alcohol anyway? If we can't stop it by keeping it illegal, why don't we legalize it, keep the growth, production and profiting from it away from gangs, Mexicans, and put it in the hands of the American government? It could provide a good tax revenue, and it would cut down on gang profits and resulting illegal activities of the people who are currently profiting from the sale of marijuana and who are using those funds for other illegal activities. If marijuana were illegal, I think that it would cut down on the "cool factor" of it, leading less people to become hopelessly addicted to it, and therefore cutting down on the gateway effect to more harmful drugs. Also, if it were made legal, people who used marijuana wouldn't be exposed to the criminals who are pushing other more harmful drugs, and it would be harder for them to get involved with more hardcore drugs. Making marijuana illegal forces people to become involved with criminals who are likely to push or lead them into using more harmful and destructive drugs.
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
Should alcoholics be shot? Why should marijuana be illegal while alcohol is legal? The point is what SHOULD be, not what IS.
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Drug addicts shouldn't be executed only drug dealers should be executed. Marijuana is worse than tobacco and this is scientifically proven. Did you guys ever think that the Muslim animals of all people are benefiting from the Wests addiction to drugs? The fact that there are people on this forum that think it should be legalized bothers me and in general I've noticed that most people disagree with Chaim on many things.
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marajuana is a lot more dangerous than alcohol because even a bit can send people on a downward spiral..
schizophrenia is one of the main problems with marajuana and is therefore quite a lethal substance unlike alchohol to the same extent...
marajuana should only be used in rare circumstances for medical purposes and not for commercial use...
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
Should alcoholics be shot? Why should marijuana be illegal while alcohol is legal? The point is what SHOULD be, not what IS.
Alcoholism is a medical disease, friggin drug addicts are a social disgrace and no medical basis for their beginning.
They cause crime, and sbusive behaivour, its black culture infecting the west, and needs to be stopped.
These people are virus apon this earth and need to be removed.
I take it you are a pot head yourself?
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marrage-i-wanna is bad...mmmkay... Drugs are bad mmkay...don't do drugs...because it's bad mmkay..
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ROFL...........
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It should not be banned. In fact, it was legal up until the 1920's or so. My opinion is the alcohol and tobacco lobbies keep it illegal as to not lose business.
To call it more dangerous than alcohol is a joke. If we think of the great scourges (in terms of substances) that have been brought upon mankind, I'd have to list the top three as heroin, cocaine, and alcohol. As far as I am concerned, MJ is "G-d's herb."
It is no different than that glass of wine after dinner, except that a thimble full of fine MJ is a lot healthier than alcohol (which is technically a poison, by the way).
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Yes, let's legalize it and tax it so the government has more money to spend on their wonderful programs. And then, when someones get stoned and causes damage or kills someone why we can sue the federal government for damages.
Shoot, why stop there, why not legalize cocaine, crack, hashish, heroin? Hey it all comes from natural plants.
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We have all those politicians who act already like they have toxic brain, why should we need drugs then? I think this world needs more mental institutions rathen then drug legalization, don`t you think?
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I don't want capitalists getting their hands on weed and let's be real, American youths already have a drinking problem.
I do want zero prison sentences for the selling or buying of weed. Just a hefty fine or community service. Keep it underground, but don't toss people in jail and pay their rent for them.
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
Should alcoholics be shot? Why should marijuana be illegal while alcohol is legal? The point is what SHOULD be, not what IS.
Alcoholism is a medical disease, friggin drug addicts are a social disgrace and no medical basis for their beginning.
They cause crime, and sbusive behaivour, its black culture infecting the west, and needs to be stopped.
These people are virus apon this earth and need to be removed.
I take it you are a pot head yourself?
Of course I'm not a pot-head, and I'd appreciate if you would refrain from insulting and unsubstantiated defamations in the future.
Let's compare alcohol vs. marijuana.
Alcohol is proven to be more addictive, it can KILL YOU, it can cause severe problems with family and loved ones, it can cause liver problems and other ailments, it leads to high blood pressure, you can die from an overdose (it's basically impossible to die from a marijuana overdose) it leads people to commit more crimes than marijuana does, over prolonged usage it can induce dementia and lead to severe brain damage, auditory and aural hallucinations.
Marijuana can cause lung damage, and problems with family and loved ones, and it's addictive of course, but not to the extent that alcohol is addictive.
By the way, I drink and I don't use marijuana, I'm just looking at the issue objectively.
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
Should alcoholics be shot? Why should marijuana be illegal while alcohol is legal? The point is what SHOULD be, not what IS.
Alcoholism is a medical disease, friggin drug addicts are a social disgrace and no medical basis for their beginning.
They cause crime, and sbusive behaivour, its black culture infecting the west, and needs to be stopped.
These people are virus apon this earth and need to be removed.
I take it you are a pot head yourself?
Of course I'm not a pot-head, and I'd appreciate if you would refrain from insulting and unsubstantiated defamations in the future.
Let's compare alcohol vs. marijuana.
Alcohol is proven to be more addictive, it can KILL YOU, it can cause severe problems with family and loved ones, it can cause liver problems and other ailments, it leads to high blood pressure, you can die from an overdose (it's basically impossible to die from a marijuana overdose) it leads people to commit more crimes than marijuana does, over prolonged usage it can induce dementia and lead to severe brain damage, auditory and aural hallucinations.
Marijuana can cause lung damage, and problems with family and loved ones, and it's addictive of course, but not to the extent that alcohol is addictive.
By the way, I drink and I don't use marijuana, I'm just looking at the issue objectively.
You are Hi jacking the away from the drug to Alcohol. The thread is about Marijuana what has anything else has to do with it?
BTW I asked a question I did not call you that merely asked if you were. SO its not unsubstantiated defamations.
You merely over acted to a question.
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I don't think that marijuana should be encouraged.
In my humble opinion, while the Torah does not prohibit marijuana per se, it is still detrimental to our health, and why would anyone want to hurt the body that Gd gave us?
According to Torah one has to take care of his/her health. -one cant either frequently over eat. But I personally dont see it being that bad for health if one does it sometimes in a while, just like eating something unhealthy like donuts or saturated fat once in a while and not frequently. I think that the reason that weed is banned is becuase its mainly the product of anyther country and not made in the usa. Weed is illegal, but cigaretts arent? - anyway i did try it a long time age (a couple of times) and its nothing special and I didnt act that much different afterwards. I know someone that I was close with growing up who does that stuff allmost daily and he drives afterwards and functions in society (works, goes out,etc.).
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Well from everything I can tell the way they deal with this in Holland is by far and away the most sensible policy around. I haven't seen any indication that Dutch society has suffered from their rational policy, and to say that marijuana is scientifically proven to be more harmful than alcool or tobacco is just plain ignorant..cite some sources. Of course people shouldn't go through life so stoned they can't function, but it seems to me that in this case the "cure" (prohibition) is much, much more harmful than the "disease" (marijuana use). Just my 2 cents
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Regardless of the laws made against pot or tobacco, there's no way to ever cut off the supply of either one. The only thing we can do is help to eliminate or at least reduce the demand by educating children as much as possible about the effects and consequences of both of these.
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In my oppinion, the main problem with marihuana ia, that it makes you passive and lazy. The most muslimes smoke marihuana. It is the right for them, but this drug don't fit into my christian culture. 8)
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Of course it should not be unbanned. My cousin is a dope head and I, for one, like to see drug dealers sent over to Iraq or Afghanistan to spend their days getting high before their beheading...
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Of course it should not be unbanned. My cousin is a dope head and I, for one, like to see drug dealers sent over to Iraq or Afghanistan to spend their days getting high before their beheading...
How do you feel about alcohol?
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NO way, drug addicts are a waste of space. A 5 cent bullet is all they need. 8;)
What's your point? There are millions of marijuana users out there today who use marijuana despite the fact that it's illegal. How many people would say "oh, now that marijuana is legal, I'll use it." The sanctions that are imposed for the use of marijuana are so weak anyway that they don't deter anyone from using it.
My point is clear, drug addicts should be shot. Marijuana is an illegal drug. It can't get any clearer than that.
Should alcoholics be shot? Why should marijuana be illegal while alcohol is legal? The point is what SHOULD be, not what IS.
Alcoholism is a medical disease, friggin drug addicts are a social disgrace and no medical basis for their beginning.
They cause crime, and sbusive behaivour, its black culture infecting the west, and needs to be stopped.
These people are virus apon this earth and need to be removed.
I take it you are a pot head yourself?
It should be unbanned but only for those people who then dont go in to heavy drugs those people who is using heavy drugs all the drugs should be banned. Remember that whead not only damage but also heal
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Alchohol is an entirely different matter. One can drink a number of drinks and still be coherant while one joint, with whatever drug inside, renders MOST people incoherant. Actually, dope is more harsh and more toxic on ones lungs than tobacco... There are many different aspects one can state on this subject. A glass of wine, beer, scotch, rum compares in no way to one joint......imo :)
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Alchohol is an entirely different matter. One can drink a number of drinks and still be coherant while one joint, with whatever drug inside, renders MOST people incoherant. Actually, dope is more harsh and more toxic on ones lungs than tobacco... There are many different aspects one can state on this subject. A glass of wine, beer, scotch, rum compares in no way to one joint......imo :)
Drunk drivers kill many innocent people.
Alcohol makes people more AGGRESSIVE. Cannabis makes people more PASSIVE.
It may be that people under the influence of cannabis cause auto accidents, but the kind of accidents that come from being too cautious...not too aggressive.
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I'm curious to know what most of our members think?
I personally think that 'pot' is a gateway drug to other more potent and lethal drugs... I have tyred it once or twice in the past, but I found nothing interesting or beneficial form it. I'll never try or recommend it to anyone!
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In my oppinion, the main problem with marihuana ia, that it makes you passive and lazy. The most muslimes smoke marihuana. It is the right for them, but this drug don't fit into my christian culture. 8)
Bingo. The mullahs spend their lives lighting that up. And when did we become Mullahs?
And I am sure G-d never told us to get stoned. And supporting something to goes against gods word is not being a true follower of G-d.
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I once asked a Rav if its allowed and he said no, but the reason why no is becuase its the Din Malhut Din- the Law of the Government is the law. In other words since it is illegal according to the laws of the Unites States one cant use it. - I would assume that one technically would be allowed if it becomes legal (allthough those who are lenient in regard to health would maybe allow rare consumption as long as one doesnt damage himself)- allthough this would probably be rejected by the majority, just as the ban on Cigareets has been put, and a Jew cant start smoking.
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I'm curious to know what most of our members think?
I personally think that 'pot' is a gateway drug to other more potent and lethal drugs... I have tyred it once or twice in the past, but I found nothing interesting or beneficial form it. I'll never try or recommend it to anyone!
Yes, I agree... no question...
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No it shouldnt be, its not a harmless drug, and I agree, gateway to harder drugs.
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I think cannabis should be legal for those who wish to use it. It's not more harmfull than tobacco and alcohol. And anyway, what's the problem with drugs? As far as the adult person knows the risks.... Let them decide their fate.
In Let-be-land all drugs are legal, but everyone is strongly discouraged to use them. However we can't save our citizens from Argentinian prisons in case any of them would some day happen to take a drug, saddly.
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I think cannabis should be legal for those who wish to use it. It's not more harmfull than tobacco and alcohol. And anyway, what's the problem with drugs? As far as the adult person knows the risks.... Let them decide their fate.
In Let-be-land all drugs are legal, but everyone is strongly discouraged to use them. However we can't save our citizens from Argentinian prisons in case any of them would some day happen to take a drug, saddly.
I disagree with you 110%. It is far more harmful than tobacco and most assuradly alcohol. There are so many problems with drugs, just look at any innercity or most of those "idols" people worship on the television. I'm sure Robert Downey Jr. would be able to answer this or perhaps John Belushi... Sadly, if people wish to use drugs than let them foot their own medical bills when they get sick or hurt. Let them be fully responsible for breaking into peoples homes or shoplifting to cater their fix. Here in Canada we, as the Socialist tax payer, foots their bills. They get sick from their choosing to do drugs, or harm someone else and we foot the bills.... Sorry brother, I must disagree...
Perhaps their might be one country where it is legal, Holland, and all the pot heads and meth addicts can move there?
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No it shouldnt be, its not a harmless drug, and I agree, gateway to harder drugs.
One of the main reasons it's considered to be a "gateway drug" is because it IS illegal, therefore in order to get it you have to go to criminals who sell the stuff and who either sell other and more harmful drugs, or know people who do. Because marijuana IS illegal, it forces those who want to obtain it to meddle with the criminal underworld, who could push them into doing more harmful drugs. Not only drugs, but gangs also control parts of the drug economy, so drug use could lead one into gang and other criminal activity. If marijuana was legal, these people would be out of business. We would shut down the mexican marijuana trafficking overnight. It would be a huge blow to criminals and gangs because they wouldn't be able to profit from marijuana anymore. If it was legal, the people who wanted to use it could obtain it through lawful means, they wouldn't have to meet any criminals to get it, and they wouldn't have that open gateway to more hardcore drugs that they have now.
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I think it should be banned, potheads are so screwed up. They use pot to get themselves out of their reality.
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I think it should be banned, potheads are so screwed up. They use pot to get themselves out of their reality.
And what aspect of pot being illegal prevents them from doing that?
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Pot is nothing more then a temp high. And a temp escape from reality. You see that drug use is legal in places like the Netherland and they are doped out. Young kids who are vast in space on it.
And here is the dangers of pot.
http://life.familyeducation.com/substance-abuse/resource/29881.html
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Pot is nothing more then a temp high. And a temp escape from reality. You see that drug use is legal in places like the Netherland and they are doped out. Young kids who are vast in space on it.
And here is the dangers of pot.
http://life.familyeducation.com/substance-abuse/resource/29881.html
Marijuana use is lower in the Netherlands than it is in the United States.
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I can't believe that on a Kahanist Torah forum, people are supporting legalization of narcotics.
In every European country where drugs have been legalized, there are now hundreds of thousands of white European drug addicts. Legalizing drugs legitimizes drugs and makes people feel that society accepts drug use. In England, when heroin was made readily available for use legally, within a short period of time, there were ten times as many heroin addicts as there had been before. In Holland, they started with legalizing marijuana and it led to a huge drug culture that now exists. Giving young people the legal "green light" to use narcotics of any type is extremely dangerous and always harmful.
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http://www.fims.uwo.ca/newmedia2005/default.asp?id=125
And here is more on Teens and Pot. If you legalize it would you tell kids and teens go ahead? I have seen what potheads are like. Many of em are pretty sad cases, they use this high to escape "pressure". But once the high goes that pressure is still there, so what they do? Smoke up again. It turns into a cycle. Me personally I rather have a leveled head on everything I do. I have never touched pot and besides it stinks.
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The legalization of drugs is one of the reasons European family life and morality has completely broken down.
In New York City, Mayor Giuliani ordered a crackdown on all drug use and all drug sales. Even marijuana use was a "quality of life" crime, and Giuliani ordered the police to arrest the users and the small time dealers. This decision was one of the reasons for the huge drop in crime in New York. Once you surrender to drug use and the drug culture, it leads to a breakdown of all morality and public order.
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The legalization of drugs is one of the reasons European family life and morality has completely broken down.
In New York City, Mayor Giuliani ordered a crackdown on all drug use and all drug sales. Even marijuana use was a "quality of life" crime, and Giuliani ordered the police to arrest the users and the small time dealers. This decision was one of the reasons for the huge drop in crime in New York. Once you surrender to drug use and the drug culture, it leads to a breakdown of all morality and public order.
They aren't legal in the UK, yet...
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The legalization of drugs is one of the reasons European family life and morality has completely broken down.
In New York City, Mayor Giuliani ordered a crackdown on all drug use and all drug sales. Even marijuana use was a "quality of life" crime, and Giuliani ordered the police to arrest the users and the small time dealers. This decision was one of the reasons for the huge drop in crime in New York. Once you surrender to drug use and the drug culture, it leads to a breakdown of all morality and public order.
They aren't legal in the UK, yet...
Heroin addicts were able to legally obtain heroin at "clinics". That is a form of legalization which backfired disastrously in the UK.
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I can't believe that on a Kahanist Torah forum, people are supporting legalization of narcotics.
In every European country where drugs have been legalized, there are now hundreds of thousands of white European drug addicts. Legalizing drugs legitimizes drugs and makes people feel that society accepts drug use. In England, when heroin was made readily available for use legally, within a short period of time, there were ten times as many heroin addicts as there had been before. In Holland, they started with legalizing marijuana and it led to a huge drug culture that now exists. Giving young people the legal "green light" to use narcotics of any type is extremely dangerous and always harmful.
Now this I totally agree with. There are many independant studies that show dope is far more toxic than tobacco and too alcohol. Dope is a gateway drug, my cousin who is a pot head says so but he chooses to smoke it and too wishes it to be legal. Being a "gateway" drug has nothing to do with it being illegal, if one looks at every society today that has it legalized there has been a mass explosion of pot heads and with it meth, opium, cocaine, heroine addicts, crime, "safe" parks where aids infested needle droppers sleep or OD, red light districts, prostitution.... Legalization of drugs is pure insanity...look at the Arab culture and what Hashish (of course Islam didn't help) has done to them or the North American Indians with their "sweet grass".... ???.
If one is against Arab oil perhaps one too should be against pot, hashish and all opiot products since much of the world supply comes from Lebanon, Afghanistan and many other Muslim and Communist nations... Good post Jimmy...
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I can't believe that on a Kahanist Torah forum, people are supporting legalization of narcotics.
In every European country where drugs have been legalized, there are now hundreds of thousands of white European drug addicts. Legalizing drugs legitimizes drugs and makes people feel that society accepts drug use. In England, when heroin was made readily available for use legally, within a short period of time, there were ten times as many heroin addicts as there had been before. In Holland, they started with legalizing marijuana and it led to a huge drug culture that now exists. Giving young people the legal "green light" to use narcotics of any type is extremely dangerous and always harmful.
Yes I agree. This drug makes lazy and passive. Thats not for us. Christians and Jews should be active in working and learning. This is our natural strength. O0
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No it shouldnt be, its not a harmless drug, and I agree, gateway to harder drugs.
One of the main reasons it's considered to be a "gateway drug" is because it IS illegal, therefore in order to get it you have to go to criminals who sell the stuff and who either sell other and more harmful drugs, or know people who do. Because marijuana IS illegal, it forces those who want to obtain it to meddle with the criminal underworld, who could push them into doing more harmful drugs. Not only drugs, but gangs also control parts of the drug economy, so drug use could lead one into gang and other criminal activity. If marijuana was legal, these people would be out of business. We would shut down the mexican marijuana trafficking overnight. It would be a huge blow to criminals and gangs because they wouldn't be able to profit from marijuana anymore. If it was legal, the people who wanted to use it could obtain it through lawful means, they wouldn't have to meet any criminals to get it, and they wouldn't have that open gateway to more hardcore drugs that they have now.
Sorry, can't agree with you there. No one would be out of business because there are always other drugs to supply, unless they are legalized as well. The sad fact is that legalizing marijuana will eventually lead the drug users to seek other drugs, which are not legal, and the criminal element will continue to thrive.
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Well, I think private life should be free. But I shall list several practicals reasons to legaliza weed, and other equally strong parctical reasons not to.
REASONS TO LEGALIZE IT
1- People would feel that the Govt. respects their personal choises and would be more willing to love and obey the State. ( In fact I try to keep the civil Law even in slightest details, just because I am proud of my honesty, but I'd love the Govt. more, if they didn't interfere in private life, if they respected anyone choises, recognisd polygamy, and above all stopped being Western).
2- Weed would not be a business for criminals.
3- Users will not need to see a criminal to buy it, and so they woould not be influenced by them.
4- Users would not be outside the Law, and they would still abide it. Today many users commit crimes because they feel they are already criminals and have no legality to lose.
5- Users would not seek emotional support from other delinquents. Now, being outlawd, they try to be among people in the same situation, and are lead into crime.
6- Adicts who want to quit the vice, would seek help without fear. Today many adicts wish to abandon it but postpone their traetment because they are afraid of a court.
REASONS NOT TO LEGALIZE IT.
1- Some people just seek weed because it is ilegal and they enjoy something forbidden, then, if weed is legal, they may try another drug. And if all drugs are legal...what would they try? Stealing, disturbs....
2-Unfortunately this Western society believes that the Govt. protects them against any damage. If it were legal, they may wrongly think that it is also ok and harmless.
3- If it is legal, how can we prevent some people using it without free will? Many youngsters and even children may try it without thinking, as it is happening today with alcohol and tobbaco.
4- How can we avoid the risk that a person with a high responsibility ( a doctor, a car driver.....) would consume weed?
5- Who would produce and control legal weed? The Govt. may be morally bound to RESPECT everyone's decision about his life, even if he harms himself, but is it bound to HELP someone to damage his health?
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1- People would feel that the Govt. respects their personal choises and would be more willing to love and obey the State. ( In fact I try to keep the civil Law even in slightest details, just because I am proud of my honesty, but I'd love the Govt. more, if they didn't interfere in private life, if they respected anyone choises, recognisd polygamy, and above all stopped being Western).
In that case why not make wife beating legal, then we wouldnt offend the muslims who have to pound the mrs a few times to keep her in line(sanctioned by islam)...no need to send the cops, she can pick up her own teeth, throw on a bandage and next time she'll listen ;)
If they legalized polygamy here we would go under, all the welfare payments for numerous wives and hoardes of children.
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I've heard that there are legitimate medical uses for cannabis, so if utilized properly, I would be for it. But something like that would get way out of hand in no time as it does already in California, so I say just find a different treatment.
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I can't believe that on a Kahanist Torah forum, people are supporting legalization of narcotics.
Not narcotics, Cannabis.
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in old days cannabis and other "illicit drugs" were legal, but nobody knew about them...After the Authorities made them ILLEGAL, then people just heard about and started to use them ...funny right?
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If Alcohol is legal, I don't see why marijuana shouldn't be.
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Also if marijuana was legal, people wouldn't have to worry about damaging their brains with other drugs that are laced into the marijuana, like is done on the street. Drug dealers put all sorts of nasty stuff in their drugs that can really harm people, so that would be avoided if marijuana was made legal. Also, it would be cheaper,because the market rate would be much lower if it was legal, so people wouldn't need to steal and commit crimes to get the money to buy marijuana. Also, I feel that less people would use it, because if it was allowed by the government, it wouldn't be as "cool" and it would take away the "counter-culture" element of it. People wouldn't feel that they would be rebelling, so they probably wouldn't use it as much. I think lots of people are interested in it because it's something you're not supposed to do, so for young people who want to rebel against authority, it provides an outlet.
The only reason why marijuana is illegal to begin with is because of large corporations that would lose BIGTIME from the legalization of hemp, basically created a smear campaign against marijuana, and lied to the American people to make it illegal so they could still make their obscene profits. Hemp was a plant that was used by the founders of the United States for making ropes, clothes, sails, and other garments. Mexicans started coming in the early 20th century, and marijuana was attacked through that avenue, because it was said to fuel the activity of the Mexicans. Large corporations were behind lobbying campaigns to the government as well as propaganda efforts to make people think that marijuana will make black men rape your daughter, it will make you insane and kill people, it will make you permanently and irreversibly insane, etc etc. LaGuardia actually did a legitimate study of marijuana and found none of the claims to be true, but nobody really listened to him. Much of the perception of marijuana today is a legacy of that.
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If Alcohol is legal, I don't see why marijuana shouldn't be.
The damage Weed causes in soicety is beyond the individaul. Justifty its use is reckless and stupid.
There are medical benefits, but we are not debating the chemical make up of the drug.
Just its misuse. Supporting any form of Illegal activity is wrong regardless of which form it takes.
We have laws for a reason, to protect the greater good, anything less is fool hardy to go against.
Too much blood is been spilt to maintain the freedoms we have, and going against the country is like spitting in the face of all thats served past present and future.
Its not just a drug its a matter of principal and morales.
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Also if marijuana was legal, people wouldn't have to worry about damaging their brains with other drugs that are laced into the marijuana, like is done on the street. Drug dealers put all sorts of nasty stuff in their drugs that can really harm people, so that would be avoided if marijuana was made legal. Also, it would be cheaper,because the market rate would be much lower if it was legal, so people wouldn't need to steal and commit crimes to get the money to buy marijuana. Also, I feel that less people would use it, because if it was allowed by the government, it wouldn't be as "cool" and it would take away the "counter-culture" element of it. People wouldn't feel that they would be rebelling, so they probably wouldn't use it as much. I think lots of people are interested in it because it's something you're not supposed to do, so for young people who want to rebel against authority, it provides an outlet.
The only reason why marijuana is illegal to begin with is because of large corporations that would lose BIGTIME from the legalization of hemp, basically created a smear campaign against marijuana, and lied to the American people to make it illegal so they could still make their obscene profits. Hemp was a plant that was used by the founders of the United States for making ropes, clothes, sails, and other garments. Mexicans started coming in the early 20th century, and marijuana was attacked through that avenue, because it was said to fuel the activity of the Mexicans. Large corporations were behind lobbying campaigns to the government as well as propaganda efforts to make people think that marijuana will make black men rape your daughter, it will make you insane and kill people, it will make you permanently and irreversibly insane, etc etc. LaGuardia actually did a legitimate study of marijuana and found none of the claims to be true, but nobody really listened to him. Much of the perception of marijuana today is a legacy of that.
Don't you get it; the legalization of marijuana is only the beginning. In 5 years after which those same potheads and leftist lobby groups would be advocating the legalization of heroine, cocaine, crystal meth, opium etc. It would be as though you took a drill to a dam holding back the flood......in my opinion.. Similarly to the border problem today.....with illegals flooding your nation...
You know if you wish to read some good stuff about the big business relationship to the dope industry you might delve into the history of the Dutch/British East India Trading Company or the Cuban/Columban dope then cocaine smuggling during the 1980's and the boom of Miami with drug money, drug dealers, crime, murder, prostitution etc. that came with it. Very intresting read... ;)
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If Alcohol is legal, I don't see why marijuana shouldn't be.
The damage Weed causes in soicety is beyond the individaul. Justifty its use is reckless and stupid.
There are medical benefits, but we are not debating the chemical make up of the drug.
Just its misuse. Supporting any form of Illegal activity is wrong regardless of which form it takes.
We have laws for a reason, to protect the greater good, anything less is fool hardy to go against.
Too much blood is been spilt to maintain the freedoms we have, and going against the country is like spitting in the face of all thats served past present and future.
Its not just a drug its a matter of principal and morales.
Its not a drug really, its a plant and it is very similar with tobacco.
If it is legal it wouldn't be considered as drug at all, cause its not.
Alcohol is much greater danger to society, and alcohol is more similar with drugs than marijuana (cause it is).
I would choose driver high on marijuana than one that is drunk anytime.
Just look, how many alcoholics are on therapy and how many "marijuana addicted" are on therapy?
How many families you know that are broken because of marijuana, howmany because of alcohol?
How many fatal traffic accidents you know that are made becuse of acohol, howmany because of marijuana?
And so on...
I am not some kind of liberal or anything like it but...it's just weed ;)
Excuse my english, I hope you'll get what i meant.
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Just say NO!