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Title: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: admin on October 14, 2007, 08:57:04 PM
I think it only should if it's by affirmative action morons.

Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Tzvi Ben Roshel1 on October 14, 2007, 08:57:37 PM
No.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Ehud on October 14, 2007, 08:59:33 PM
"Should bad grammer be banned?"

How about spelling?  Hehe jk

I think bad grammar should be pointed out wherever it happens, whether done by schvartzas or not.  Naturally, they will be corrected many times more often anyone with a proper command of English.  If we didn't try to correct our grammar, we would be no different than the affirmative action morons.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 09:00:58 PM
Why you be frontin, man? Ain't no grammar should be banned! Grammar is who we should make sure we visit often and make sure we're nice to her ;)
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:01:14 PM
NO WAY just some people are soo anal here about it. They need to chill out a tad.  ???
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:12:27 PM
I think it's stupid the way many people write in bad grammar online because they're lazy. But if we were to ban it altogether, we couldn't make fun of Ebonics. But I don't mind banning it for native Ebonics speakers.



Your sew write.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:13:33 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: nopeaceforland on October 14, 2007, 09:14:39 PM
I think it's stupid the way many people write in bad grammar online because they're lazy. But if we were to ban it altogether, we couldn't make fun of Ebonics. But I don't mind banning it for native Ebonics speakers.


I voted yes, but in your condition, I think you're right! Otherwise you be frontin' b ;D.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:15:00 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

How a person writes is a reflection of their intelligence or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: judeanoncapta on October 14, 2007, 09:17:13 PM
Yes, it should be banned.

In fact, offenders should receive the death penalty.

This whole banned topic thing is wearing mighty thin, Yaacov.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 09:17:42 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

I'm afraid it's not quite that simple. While grammatical errors are often the result of not being educated and coming from certain cultures, incorrect grammar usage can also be the result of having a language disorder which can result in morphological and syntactical errors which are a different issue altogether from Ebonics.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:18:16 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

well no its not, I have an IQ of 130, and double Uni degree.
And I have bad grammer. Assuming ones intelligence on the net is fool hardy at the very least  ;)
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:19:42 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

I'm afraid it's not quite that simple. While grammatical errors are often the result of not being educated and coming from certain cultures, incorrect grammar usage can also be the result of having a language disorder which can result in morphological and syntactical errors which are a different issue altogether from Ebonics.

The only exception I'll make to my previous statement regards people who are writing in a second language.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:21:12 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

I'm afraid it's not quite that simple. While grammatical errors are often the result of not being educated and coming from certain cultures, incorrect grammar usage can also be the result of having a language disorder which can result in morphological and syntactical errors which are a different issue altogether from Ebonics.

The only exception I'll make to my previous statement regards people who are writing in a second language.

Does that include Jibberish?
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:22:02 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

well no its not, I have an IQ of 130, and double Uni degree.
And I have bad grammer. Assuming ones intelligence on the net is fool hardy at the very least  ;)

Its not a perfect measurement of intelligence, but it is a good general indicator.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2007, 09:22:40 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

I'm afraid it's not quite that simple. While grammatical errors are often the result of not being educated and coming from certain cultures, incorrect grammar usage can also be the result of having a language disorder which can result in morphological and syntactical errors which are a different issue altogether from Ebonics.

The only exception I'll make to my previous statement regards people who are writing in a second language.

Yes, language differences should be regarded as an exception as well as language disabilities. It's also important to note the differences between language differences and language disabilities. So many people confuse with what I do as a speech-language therapist with what a teacher of English as a second language does.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:36:33 PM
Grammer has nothing to do with people have to say, if you want great grammer and boring posters go right ahead.

You will kill all the life from this forum.

And I mistaken in thinking this forum is about getting the message across to people in the fight for the jewish race, or is it solely a spelling bee contest?

Does it matter how the message is sent as long as it is.

Do you really think life is worthless if you don't have A in grammer.

Life is about contecting with people not driving them away. Over many years I have seen uneducated people do the most amazing things, are they to be discounted because of their poor grammer, or praised for what they have done?

It is a reflection of one's intelligence or lack thereof.

well no its not, I have an IQ of 130, and double Uni degree.
And I have bad grammer. Assuming ones intelligence on the net is fool hardy at the very least  ;)

Its not a perfect measurement of intelligence, but it is a good general indicator.

ROFLMFAO!
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:39:52 PM
ROFLMFAO!

What does that mean?

You should call yourself 'The Ignoramus'.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:43:28 PM
ROFLMFAO!

What does that mean?

You should call yourself 'The Ignoramus'.

It means Rolling on the floor laughing my f*cken arse off at your stupid logic  O0
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:46:56 PM
ROFLMFAO!

What does that mean?

You should call yourself 'The Ignoramus'.

It means Rolling on the floor laughing my f*cken arse off at your stupid logic  O0

Take it easy.

What is writing?  It is a way of communicating one's ideas and thoughts.

The more clearly a person's ideas are expressed the more likely they are to be understood by the reader.

YATMSCSIHEE
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Joe Schmo on October 14, 2007, 09:47:56 PM
ROFLMFAO!

What does that mean?

You should call yourself 'The Ignoramus'.

It means Rolling on the floor laughing my f*cken arse off at your stupid logic  O0

Wouldn't that be ROTFLMAOAYSL?
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 14, 2007, 09:54:44 PM
ROFLMFAO!

What does that mean?

You should call yourself 'The Ignoramus'.

It means Rolling on the floor laughing my f*cken arse off at your stupid logic  O0

Wouldn't that be ROTFLMAOAYSL?

Oh silly me do I get a spank  ^-^
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 15, 2007, 12:25:58 AM
Grammar is always changing. It's a natural prccess since Babel. I prefer Archaic English, but now it's not understood by the majority.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 15, 2007, 12:42:54 AM
In fact my favourite language is Hebrew, but I can't speak it.
And YES, I really enjoy writting and reading in Archaic English, more than modern one or Spanish.
Don't confuse Archaic with Old or Middle English, I refer to the English of the KJV version of the Bible
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 15, 2007, 01:41:31 AM
Do you like Archaic Spanish?



Yes, I usually use archaisms in Spanish, and I speak like a Spaniard, not as an Argentinian.
But Archaic English is our identity in Let-be-land. It was chosen because it keeps the pronoun THOU, which is the original singular form. It's a symbol of modesty, since YOU was origunally plural and meant superiority and politeness, that is "politically correctness", something we reject.
Archaic English is almost a National Symbol as the flag, the Anthem, the Coat of Arms (a marble) and the Linden Trees.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Ultra Requete on October 15, 2007, 01:42:48 AM
This thread is realy one too beacoup. :D What next banning bad BO?  :::D
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Zionist Revolutionary on October 15, 2007, 01:46:20 AM
How a person writes is a reflection of their intelligence or lack thereof.

Too true!
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 15, 2007, 02:14:32 AM
I use TU for the singular and VOSOTROS for the plural since I usually chat with many Central American Noahides. But in my city I sometimes use the Argentinian forms with some friends.
BTW, do you know why the linden was adopted as a symbol in Let-be-land, besides the fact that it blooms at the time of our independence?
Just b/c it's blooming tome is short, and it is a reminder not to lose one's time and not to make others lose their time. It has also many other mystical meanings
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on October 15, 2007, 02:29:25 AM
As we are mostly Goyim, we avoid Jewish meanings in our Symbols ( except for the fact that our Constitution mentions Hanukah). Linden in fact is used by us to teach many things regarding Hashem and life, but from a Goyshe point of view. For example that summer and winter shall not cease, as it is stated in Bereshit/Noah. That we must try to do Hashem's will as Nature does, as seasons never fail to come.
Marbles were chosen for several reasons. As they are cheap, they remember that even a little mitzvah counts. As they are hard but of clear glass it reminds us that we are bound to learn about other Nations but not influence them, in the same way we cannot touch what is inside a marble. ( we can learn about Israel, but not intermix with them)
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Dan on October 15, 2007, 10:19:36 AM
Yes, ban them all... before our languages totally resembles the African Zulu language
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Sarah on October 15, 2007, 10:26:25 AM
Sometimes people generally make mistakes.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Erica on October 15, 2007, 07:41:06 PM
I think it only should if it's by affirmative action morons.


You are so unfair. You think its okay to ban blacks from speaking ebonics but you don't think you should have to stop making fun of ebonics by speaking it yourself?

If you really believe that, I hope that if ebonics is banned that people like you would grow up and stop using the language to make fun of blacks.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Erica on October 15, 2007, 07:52:24 PM
I think it only should if it's by affirmative action morons.


You are so unfair. You think its okay to ban blacks from speaking ebonics but you don't think you should have to stop making fun of ebonics by speaking it yourself?

If you really believe that, I hope that if ebonics is banned that people like you would grow up and stop using the language to make fun of blacks.


So why did most of the people who voted for a ban pick that it should only be banned for blacks?


Look, Yacov. If you think ebonics is so dumb, why do you use it when describing how some black people talk? I use ebonics sometimes, force of habit, I guess. However, though my education I have learned to speak like I have sense so that people understand what I'm saying. I don't come in here speaking ebonics for a couple of reasons... 1st. I want to be understood by people who dont' understand ebonics. 2nd. ITS IMPROPER LANGUAGE WHEN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! If you don't like ebonics, don't use it, not even to make fun of blacks that do.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: MarZutra on October 15, 2007, 07:52:52 PM
I don't really care about bad grammer but people should think before they post and should be open for debate and rebuke!
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: MarZutra on October 15, 2007, 08:00:18 PM


Look, Yacov. If you think ebonics is so dumb, why do you use it when describing how some black people talk? I use ebonics sometimes, force of habit, I guess. However, though my education I have learned to speak like I have sense so that people understand what I'm saying. I don't come in here speaking ebonics for a couple of reasons... 1st. I want to be understood by people who dont' understand ebonics. 2nd. ITS IMPROPER LANGUAGE WHEN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! If you don't like ebonics, don't use it, not even to make fun of blacks that do.
What a load of rubbish.  You cannot be serious can you?  You don't use ebonics here because "I want to be understood by people who dont' understand ebonics"?  So you think it is proper word usage that is acceptable to use amongst people who understand it?  Amazing?!?!  Oy vey..  Not because that it is piss poor English indicitive a very primitive pseudo-culture?  "If you don't like ebonics, don't use it, not even to make fun of blacks that do."  Oh Lord that is just insane....if these people made some real attempt to speak proper English and not primate ebonics and furthre acted like human beings instead of continually displaying the great qualities of the wild beast or the hunter gatherer neolithic cave man, there wouldn't be any discussion, period, end, full stop. 

I think my IQ just slipped.  Do you have the same opinion of digraceful words that those same ebonics speaking people use on mass like "n-igga? or is the proper English terminology better for public usage and more acceptable?  G-d please for give me for posting and entertaining such ignorance... ???  I can only imagine...  Yo, wassup ni gga? as compared to English: Hi, what is new with you ni gger? 
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Erica on October 15, 2007, 08:07:56 PM


Look, Yacov. If you think ebonics is so dumb, why do you use it when describing how some black people talk? I use ebonics sometimes, force of habit, I guess. However, though my education I have learned to speak like I have sense so that people understand what I'm saying. I don't come in here speaking ebonics for a couple of reasons... 1st. I want to be understood by people who dont' understand ebonics. 2nd. ITS IMPROPER LANGUAGE WHEN YOU WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! If you don't like ebonics, don't use it, not even to make fun of blacks that do.
What a load of rubbish.  You cannot be serious can you?  You don't use ebonics here because "I want to be understood by people who dont' understand ebonics"?  So you think it is proper word usage that is acceptable to use amongst people who understand it?  Amazing?!?!  Oy vey..  I think my IQ just slipped.  Do you have the same opinion of digraceful words that those same ebonics speaking people use on mass: schvartza? ooops schvartza sorry?  G-d please for give me for posting and entertaining such ignorance... ???
First of all... I speak ebonics because it was how I was brought up..half/half actually. My dad spoke proper English all of the time but my mom didn't. So I'm privy to what language to use and when. That's something that's just embedded in me. Sorry. However, I don't come here to present myself as some -ebonics-speaking person because I want people to know that I DO know Proper English. Is ebonics a solidified language? No. It shouldn't be either because the lines of communication will always be severed when someone in ebonics tries to converse with someone who speak proper English.

I have a problem with the word [censored]--, which is used in the black language a lot. I hate the words "you know what I'm sayin' " used in the beginning, middle and end of every sentence. However if someone came to me right now, another black person and they spoke in ebonics to me without using any negative qualifiers, I'd understand what they're saying without a problem.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Erica on October 15, 2007, 08:10:30 PM
On YouTube, you sounded like you have an Ebonics accent, even talking in English.


I have my own voice and the tonality isn't black or otherwise. This is just the way I sound. I can't help that. What do you want me to do, get a vocal cord transplant?
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Kiwi on October 16, 2007, 03:49:40 AM
This thread is realy one too beacoup. :D What next banning bad BO?  :::D

I support the BO ban 100%   :::D
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: MarZutra on October 16, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
Erica, I most agree with your last post.  It is nice to see you on here posting, promoting and advocating proper, educated and knowledgable English.  I, personally, feel that this embracement of a very primitive "culture", language included, by not only Blacks but Whites, Arabs, Asians and Jew is very disheartening.  It has come to the point where it has largely impacted, and encouraged, the mass idolization and role models amongst our youths are not the educated or even non-educated buy highly worthy peoples: Fireman, Teachers, Doctors, Farmers, Mechanics, Ministers, Rabbis etc. but the Pimp, Prostitute, Drug Dealer, Rapists, Murderers and all other sub-human debauched savage their are...  I'm sure you'd agree..

Personally, I don't use these words whether they are in bastardized English: Ebonics or flat out English....  It is a direct example of poor manners, ignorance and absolutely no self respect or respect for other imo...

Good post and thanks for the clearification....  I believe my IQ increased by a few points... ;)
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: kellymaureen on October 16, 2007, 01:54:48 PM
I havent ever seen Erica type in ebonics.
Title: Re: Should bad grammar be banned?
Post by: Nic Brookes on October 16, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
This could be called racist, having one rule for [censored] and one rule for other people.