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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Hrvatski Noahid on April 01, 2024, 04:32:35 AM
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Easter is an annual Christian festival in commemoration of the resurrection of Jesus. Even if his resurrection happened, it does not make him God or the Messiah.
The correct intention for celebrating Easter is remembering that any Gentile who accepts the seven Noahide commandments will be included in the resurrection of the dead.
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Easter is an annual Christian festival in commemoration of the resurrection of Jesus. Even if his resurrection happened, it does not make him God or the Messiah.
The correct intention for celebrating Easter is remembering that any Gentile who accepts the seven Noahide commandments will be included in the resurrection of the dead.
That an omelette for breakfast
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That an omelette for breakfast
No way. You're supposed to boil and decorate the eggs.
Only the synagogue of Satan makes an omelette.
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No way. You're supposed to boil and decorate the eggs.
Only the synagogue of Satan makes an omelette.
Do Serbian & Croation Christians do that as well?
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Do Serbian & Croation Christians do that as well?
Pisanica means painted Easter egg in Croatia.
I suppose Serbian eggs have Putin's face.
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No way. You're supposed to boil and decorate the eggs.
Only the synagogue of Satan makes an omelette.
Oh you mean aborted chicken fetuses dressed in drag. :P
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Oh you mean aborted chicken fetuses dressed in drag. :P
Yeah, aborted fetuses dressed in drag is what you get when you stop following the Torah because Jesus died for your sins.
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Ukranians also decorate their eggs. I remember seeing a story on TV one year about the Ukranian Christians in Philadelphia that do it.
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Ukranians also decorate their eggs. I remember seeing a story on TV one year about the Ukranian Christians in Philadelphia that do it.
That's nice. The Torah prioritizes a Gentile's intention. Many of our customs can be included in the Noahide Code with the proper intention.
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If Easter is celebrated as a religious holiday by Christians it appears from Rambam Laws of King 10:9 that it should not be observed as a Noahide holiday.
If Noahides observe the day as a secular holiday, ask someone else who has greater knowledge in this area of Noahide law if that is okay.
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If Easter is celebrated as a religious holiday by Christians it appears from Rambam Laws of King 10:9 that it should not be observed as a Noahide holiday.
If Noahides observe the day as a secular holiday, ask someone else who has greater knowledge in this area of Noahide law if that is okay.
Nobody has greater knowledge in Noahide law than Rabbi Weiner and Dr. Schulman. There is nothing in their writings forbidding secular holidays or customs.
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According to articles on Easter on the internet, the holiday actually was started by pagan religions and then "converted" into a Christian Holiday at a later date.
The J-man as understood by Christians today in my opinion did not exist in history.
One who is celebrating such a holiday might be giving to other people an impression about the facts which are not true.
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According to articles on Easter on the internet, the holiday actually was started by pagan religions and then "converted" into a Christian Holiday at a later date.
The J-man as understood by Christians today in my opinion did not exist in history.
One who is celebrating such a holiday might be giving to other people an impression about the facts which are not true.
The Croatian term is Uskrs. It is derived from the verb uskrsnuti, which means resurrect.
Originally this verb referred to the revival of nature in spring. Later it referred to the belief in the resurrection of the dead.
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That's nice. The Torah prioritizes a Gentile's intention. Many of our customs can be included in the Noahide Code with the proper intention.
Easter is a religious holiday of worshipping the son with an o. It replaced worsipping the Sun with a u. Both ways are idolatrous. Bnei Noah are not allowed to celebrate pagan holidays or other idolatrous holidays.
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Easter is a religious holiday of worshipping the son with an o. It replaced worsipping the Sun with a u. Both ways are idolatrous. Bnei Noah are not allowed to celebrate pagan holidays or other idolatrous holidays.
If my intention is to celebrate it as a secular holiday, then what?
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If my intention is to celebrate it as a secular holiday, then what?
I would say no because of its pagan origins but ask a rav like Moishe Winer or Tovia Singer they will know
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I wou;d say nobecause of its pagan origins but ask a rav like Moishe Winer or Tovia Singer they will know
Its origins are irrelevant when it comes to its permissibility. Rabbi Weiner teaches that a Gentile's deeds are judged by God mostly (indeed, almost completely) in regard to the person's intention.
When you remove the idolatry of worshiping a person, there remains a beautiful message of resurrection which is closely related to the Noahide Code.
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Its origins are irrelevant when it comes to its permissibility. Rabbi Weiner teaches that a Gentile's deeds are judged by God mostly (indeed, almost completely) in regard to the person's intention.
When you remove the idolatry of worshiping a person, there remains a beautiful message of resurrection which is closely related to the Noahide Code.
Easter is an Xtian holiday and Noahides shouldn't celerbrate it. Some say Noahides aren't allowed to make new holidays at all, especially not Xtian ones.
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Easter is an Xtian holiday and Noahides shouldn't celerbrate it. Some say Noahides aren't allowed to make new holidays at all, especially not Xtian ones.
Easter is a national holiday in my country celebrated by everyone from atheists to religious fundamentalists.
I invited my relative. We talked, reminisced, ate and drank. I escorted him.
Nothing bad happened. I don't claim it's an 8th divine commandment for Gentiles.
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Its origins are irrelevant when it comes to its permissibility. Rabbi Weiner teaches that a Gentile's deeds are judged by God mostly (indeed, almost completely) in regard to the person's intention.
When you remove the idolatry of worshiping a person, there remains a beautiful message of resurrection which is closely related to the Noahide Code.
I suppose similar to Muslims & the kabaa which was once used for idolatry
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I suppose similar to Muslims & the kabaa which was once used for idolatry
I want to keep the discussion focused on Easter.
We are not Jews. We have our own holidays and customs. That is fine if the intention is not to create a new religion.
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I want to keep the discussion focused on Easter.
We are not Jews. We have our own holidays and customs. That is fine if the intention is not to create a new religion.
Maybe like American 4th of July or Thanksgiving both secular holidays or British boxing day but again ask rav with expertise in these matters such as Rabbi Moshe Weiner or Rabbi Tovia Singer!!!
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Maybe like American 4th of July or Thanksgiving both secular holidays or British boxing day but again ask rav with expertise in these matters such as Rabbi Moshe Weiner or Rabbi Tovia Singer!!!
Ask what? If he meant what he wrote in his published works?
"Since the main obligations of the Noahide Code are logically and morally based, it is by the person's motivating logic and morals that his actions are measured. If his intention is right, the action is judged by God as being good, and otherwise it is not." (Seven Gates of Righteous Knowledge, p 83)
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X-mas is a federal holiday in the US. Do you think that means Noahides in the US are permitted to celebrate it? Are they allowed to have X-mas trees since the intention is no longer to worship them?
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X-mas is a federal holiday in the US. Do you think that means Noahides in the US are permitted to celebrate it? Are they allowed to have X-mas trees since the intention is no longer to worship them?
Any tree (including a non-fruit tree) planted beside an idol, or beside an idol's altar or house of worship, is a forbidden decoration for the idol, and is therefore an asherah.
Likewise, trees that are brought into houses of worship to celebrate the birthday of Yeshua are forbidden as long as they remain there. In private houses or businesses, it appears that they are not forbidden for benefit if they bear no symbols of the religion, if they are only used as a custom and not as an aid in worshiping with prayers or songs. They would certainly be permitted for benefit after being discarded (a clear act of nullification) (the Divine Code by Rabbi Moshe Weiner, Ask Noah International, 2011, p 216).