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Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« on: September 06, 2007, 11:15:52 PM »
BELGRADE: Serbia is ready to use force to prevent Western nations from recognizing Kosovo as an independent state, a senior Serbian official warned Wednesday.

Dusan Prorokovic, Serbia's state secretary for Kosovo, outlined an array of tough measures to squeeze Kosovo - including the possible deployment of Serbian forces to the province, the sealing of its borders and a trade embargo - that he said Serbia was ready to take in the event that Kosovo's Albanian-dominated government declared independence and was recognized by Western governments.

The potential steps are the harshest outlined so far by the government here and come as negotiations between the two sides and overseen by Russia, the European Union and United States appear to be deadlocked. The United Nations has set a Dec. 10 deadline for the conclusion of the talks, after which the United States has indicated it will recognize Kosovo unilaterally.

International officials in Kosovo, regional analysts and Albanian politicians have repeatedly said that a return of Serbian troops would spark a renewed conflict in the region.

Until now Serbia has shied away from making any threats that could associate it with the repressive response by its security forces to an ethnic Albanian insurgency during the 1990s, when Slobodan Milosevic was the president of Yugoslavia.


In an interview in the Serbian capital, Prorokovic warned that unilateral recognition by Western states would give Serbia the right to return its troops to the region, and to annul an eight-year agreement between NATO and the then-Yugoslav government regulating their exclusion. Prorokovic is also a senior member of Prime Minister Kostunica's Serbian Democratic party.

"In case of self-proclamation, it is not an active paper anymore," Prorokovic said, referring to the Kumanovo military accord. "Without Kumanovo our army can go back without any legal limits. It can cross the boundary and go everywhere in Kosovo without any legal problems."

Serbian-dominated forces were forced to withdraw from Kosovo in June 1999 after a 78-day NATO-led bombing campaign. Since then the United Nations has administered the region. UN officials estimate that as many as 10,000 ethnic Albanians lost their lives in the conflict. Prorokovic said the redeployment of the Serbian Army was one of up to 16 options Serbia was considering if Kosovo declared independence. He also reinforced his government's stance that continued talks on Kosovo's future were the only option worth considering.

"We do not have an alternative," he said.

If Kosovo Albanian leaders proceeded with their plans to declare unilateral independence at the end of current talks, Prorokovic said, Serbia would launch a trade embargo on the province, which relies on Serbia for much of its imports, and seal its boundaries with Serbia.

"We will block every kind of commercial activity and every kind of route," he said. The warning come ahead of the announcement of a detailed package offered to the ethnic Albanians during the negotiations in Vienna last week. It will be made public Monday.

A foreign policy adviser to Kosovo's prime minister, Agim Ceku, said Prorokovic's statement would not deter the Kosovo Albanian leadership from seeking recognition after negotiations finish in December.

"How do they a walk over NATO troops in the region, and what do they do when they are exposed to open conflict?" said the adviser, Borut Grgic. "Occupation is out of the question. The international community would block it."

But Grgic conceded that the region was likely to face the possibility of renewed tension by the end of the year as Kosovo's Albanian leaders move ever closer to proclaiming their own state.

"No matter what happens, there will be a period of high instability and potential for conflict," said Grgic, who is also director the Institute for Strategic Studies, a foreign policy research group based in Ljubljana, Slovenia. "This will come after December; there will be a period of six months of uncertainty, and you will have a lot of actors who want assert themselves and stake their claim," he said in a telephone interview.

One leading political commentator in Belgrade said Serbia's increasingly tough stance on Kosovo, bolstered by Russia's refusal to accept recognition of the province within the UN Security Council, may test the nerves of European states that are divided over the region's future.

The Serbs "know that security is not fantastic in Kosovo," said the commentator, Bratislav Grubacic, editor of VIP News.

"In a way they are threatening the others. You know the situation is not great," he said, referring to the possible deployment of Serbian troops in the region.

Most European states have troops deployed with the 17,000-strong NATO force in the province. The European Union has also agreed to lead a new mission to supervise the region once the UN administration leaves the province.

Several European states, including Greece, Cyprus, Romania and Slovakia, have said they will not recognize Kosovo's independence without a un resolution. "Disunity of Europe," Grubacic said, "is the one of the Serbs' main weapons in their negotiations."

The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 11:20:35 PM »
Serbia is in the same boat as Israel.

Idiotic western countries are forcing it to accept a mulim state on its territory!

I hope they do resist and resist strongly.

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 01:04:54 AM »
It's going to be tough to convince other countries to go against the Muslims... I only pray that the people of Serbia don't have to go through the same thing like in 1999 when NATO had a bombing campaign for 60 days on them!

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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 01:08:27 AM »
It's going to be tough to convince other countries to go against the Muslims... I only pray that the people of Serbia don't have to go through the same thing like in 1999 when NATO had a bombing campaign for 60 days on them!


Ironic, don't you think?

Resist those who would bomb YOU into oblivion and you get bombed.

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 04:13:36 AM »
The West is our biggest enemy.
They created unstable situations in the Balkans. They are the investors of wars and terror. The western church is always attacking Christian orthodox civilization.

We Serbs lived under Islamic Turkish rule for 500 years. The Turks saw that we were normal people with normal intentions they didn’t try to eliminate us all. We had rights for our religion and national identity during their occupations. When we had problems with roman-Catholics they were more brutal against us. They always tried to eliminated us till the last person they always tried to convert us to their religion. They Turks killed only rebellious Serbs who rebelled against their government and occupation. With Catholic crusaders we had other experiences they committed much more horrible crimes to innocent people and to our churches.     

You are saying that the West is so civilized? Is that so true?
Who committed genocide against the Jews those criminals were not Muslims.
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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 04:24:59 AM »
The West is our biggest enemy.
They created unstable situations in the Balkans. They are the investors of wars and terror. The western church is always attacking Christian orthodox civilization.

We Serbs lived under Islamic Turkish rule for 500 years. The Turks saw that we were normal people with normal intentions they didn’t try to eliminate us all. We had rights for our religion and national identity during their occupations. When we had problems with roman-Catholics they were more brutal against us. They always tried to eliminated us till the last person they always tried to convert us to their religion. They Turks killed only rebellious Serbs who rebelled against their government and occupation. With Catholic crusaders we had other experiences they committed much more horrible crimes to innocent people and to our churches.     

You are saying that the West is so civilized? Is that so true?
Who committed genocide against the Jews those criminals were not Muslims.


The west of today is more civilised than the islam of today.

That being said, I think the western world as a whole is more dangerous to Serbia. It is the EU, UN, and USA who presure Serbia to accept the islamic menace at it's door. Without this western interference, Serbia could rid itself of the muslim threat.

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 04:58:41 AM »
The West is our biggest enemy.
They created unstable situations in the Balkans. They are the investors of wars and terror. The western church is always attacking Christian orthodox civilization.

We Serbs lived under Islamic Turkish rule for 500 years. The Turks saw that we were normal people with normal intentions they didn’t try to eliminate us all. We had rights for our religion and national identity during their occupations. When we had problems with roman-Catholics they were more brutal against us. They always tried to eliminated us till the last person they always tried to convert us to their religion. They Turks killed only rebellious Serbs who rebelled against their government and occupation. With Catholic crusaders we had other experiences they committed much more horrible crimes to innocent people and to our churches.     

You are saying that the West is so civilized? Is that so true?
Who committed genocide against the Jews those criminals were not Muslims.


The west of today is more civilised than the islam of today.

That being said, I think the western world as a whole is more dangerous to Serbia. It is the EU, UN, and USA who presure Serbia to accept the islamic menace at it's door. Without this western interference, Serbia could rid itself of the muslim threat.

Through helping Muslims they want to destroy Serbia.
They must destroy Serbia because Serbia is a barricade for them. They are not able to expand roman catholicism or their imperialism because Serbia is still their stop.

We are a crossing between two religions and cultures. We have to deal with invaders from both sides. Because of our pure religion we are still alive today and we exist. We Serbs can only beat our enemies if we are together on the same front with the blessing of God.

We did not survived all those wars, occupations and aggressions because we are some kind of separate warrior race. We survived because our forefathers were loyal to God, our religion and were committed to the purity of our Christian faith. We must continue this tradition.

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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 05:07:27 AM »


Through helping Muslims they want to destroy Serbia.
They must destroy Serbia because Serbia is a barricade for them. They are not able to expand roman catholicism or their imperialism because Serbia is still their stop.

We are a crossing between two religions and cultures. We have to deal with invaders from both sides. Because of our pure religion we are still alive today and we exist. We Serbs can only beat our enemies if we are together on the same front with the blessing of G-d.

We did not survived all those wars, occupations and aggressions because we are some kind of separate warrior race. We survived because our forefathers were loyal to G-d, our religion and were committed to the purity of our Christian faith. We must continue this tradition.


Like I said early in the thread. You're in the same position as the Jews.

I'm afraid you're mostly alone in your struggle like they are. If the west had some morallity, this would NOT be the case in EITHER situation. :(

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 05:13:54 AM »
Newman you said that the West is more civilized that the Islamic world?

"The west of today is more civilised than the islam of today."


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That’s maby true maby not.
But thing about this.

It’s a fact that the West provides rights to homosexuals ,prostitutes and drug addicted. They are full of sodomisations and other non-civilized activities.


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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 05:26:45 AM »
Newman you said that the West is more civilized that the Islamic world?

"The west of today is more civilised than the islam of today."


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That’s maby true maby not.
But thing about this.

It’s a fact that the West provides rights to homosexuals ,prostitutes and drug addicted. They are full of sodomisations and other non-civilized activities.



Yes...it's very immoral but nobody is forced to be a homosexual.

islam prtects some family values but really just gives religious ascent to rape and child abuse. There is no personal freedom and only a little more morallity.

True morallity is morallity by choice, not by fear.

The words 'civilised' and 'moral' are not the same.

I'd rather have a homosexual next door who leaves me alone than a muslim who wishes to kill me or convert me by force.

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 07:02:55 AM »
In Serbia a place named Sandzak there are living Serbs and Muslims in peace for centuries long. Croatian and Bosnian fascist tried to create a war in Sandzak during the collapse of Yugoslavia. The Muslims and Serbs from Sandzak didn’t response to the provocation from out side and continued to live in Serbia peacefully together.
We cannot accuse all Muslims for terrorism Muslims are also humans. God created Muslims to.

Generalization is for Nazis.
There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.

A homosexual is more evil than a killer.
Because a killer separates just the body from the soul while homosexuals are sodomasing the body and the soul.

We do not compromise. No nazi-killers and no homosexuals around us.   

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2007, 05:16:39 PM »
In Serbia a place named Sandzak there are living Serbs and Muslims in peace for centuries long. Croatian and Bosnian fascist tried to create a war in Sandzak during the collapse of Yugoslavia. The Muslims and Serbs from Sandzak didn’t response to the provocation from out side and continued to live in Serbia peacefully together.
We cannot accuse all Muslims for terrorism Muslims are also humans. G-d created Muslims to.

Generalization is for Nazis.
There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.

A homosexual is more evil than a killer.
Because a killer separates just the body from the soul while homosexuals are sodomasing the body and the soul.

We do not compromise. No nazi-killers and no homosexuals around us.   
 
What is wrong with you? In Sandzak muslim nazis killed any Serb they could. Who lives in peace there? Two months ago the Serbian police foud group of white Al Qaeda terrorists who tried to kill many innocesents.
If you like stinky muslims I do not thing this forum is place for you :o

You said:The Turks saw that we were normal people with normal intentions they didn’t try to eliminate us all. We had rights for our religion and national identity during their occupations. look at this, how do you explain this? shame on you..



Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2007, 09:12:43 PM »
In Serbia a place named Sandzak there are living Serbs and Muslims in peace for centuries long. Croatian and Bosnian fascist tried to create a war in Sandzak during the collapse of Yugoslavia. The Muslims and Serbs from Sandzak didn’t response to the provocation from out side and continued to live in Serbia peacefully together.
We cannot accuse all Muslims for terrorism Muslims are also humans. G-d created Muslims to.

Generalization is for Nazis.
There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.

A homosexual is more evil than a killer.
Because a killer separates just the body from the soul while homosexuals are sodomasing the body and the soul.

We do not compromise. No nazi-killers and no homosexuals around us.   


In Serbia a place named Sandzak there are living Serbs and Muslims in peace for centuries long. Croatian and Bosnian fascist tried to create a war in Sandzak during the collapse of Yugoslavia. The Muslims and Serbs from Sandzak didn’t response to the provocation from out side and continued to live in Serbia peacefully together.
We cannot accuse all Muslims for terrorism Muslims are also humans. G-d created Muslims to.

Generalization is for Nazis.
There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.

A homosexual is more evil than a killer.
Because a killer separates just the body from the soul while homosexuals are sodomasing the body and the soul.

We do not compromise. No nazi-killers and no homosexuals around us.   


Maybe it's my "Don't get ticked off meds not kicking in, but you , (with all due respect) can drop off the planet with your muslims kissing buttocks.

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There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.
THESE MODERATES SUPPORT THE MUJAHADIN. I text no more with you. A moderate muslims, was like a moderate nazi, or a moderate kkk member. I'm in no mood , TRUSTME, for such drivel. I DIS AGREE WITH YOU,  and I will leave it at that before I will text things that will get me banned, have a ( fill in the blank ) day.
No peace, without FREEDOM.

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 04:29:34 AM »
In Serbia a place named Sandzak there are living Serbs and Muslims in peace for centuries long. Croatian and Bosnian fascist tried to create a war in Sandzak during the collapse of Yugoslavia. The Muslims and Serbs from Sandzak didn’t response to the provocation from out side and continued to live in Serbia peacefully together.
We cannot accuse all Muslims for terrorism Muslims are also humans. G-d created Muslims to.

Generalization is for Nazis.
There are also moderated  Muslims who are just living there lives normal.

A homosexual is more evil than a killer.
Because a killer separates just the body from the soul while homosexuals are sodomasing the body and the soul.

We do not compromise. No nazi-killers and no homosexuals around us.   
 
What is wrong with you? In Sandzak muslim nazis killed any Serb they could. Who lives in peace there? Two months ago the Serbian police foud group of white Al Qaeda terrorists who tried to kill many innocesents.
If you like stinky muslims I do not thing this forum is place for you :o

You said:The Turks saw that we were normal people with normal intentions they didn’t try to eliminate us all. We had rights for our religion and national identity during their occupations. look at this, how do you explain this? shame on you..





I did not say that the Turkish occupation was good for Serbia.
The Turkish occupation had a period of 500 years. Just think if it was a German/Austrian/Hungarian occupation instead of a Turkish I guarantee not even one Serb would stay a live.

The Turks used force manly against rebellious Serbs (armed men). They committed also other crimes but when we were under other occupations its was 100 time worse.
Its of course also horrible.
But the crimes of the crusaders and fascists were 100 times more worse.


Some historical facts:

Did you know that the Serbian langue was the second official langue in the whole Ottoman empire?

Did you know that the greatest Turkish warlord (of Serbian origin) Mehmet pasa Sokolovic gave permission for the reestablishment of the srpska parohija of Pec in Kosovo?

Due this actions the Serb orthodox religion became a official religion in areas where Serbs are the majority. 150 years later a descendant of M. Pasa Sokolovic became a Serb Orthodox Patriarch

By mentioning these historical facts above does not give you the right to declare me pro-Turkish or something like that. @ serbian army, i do not want to insult you but get informed about some histrical fact brate!


About Sandzak.
I agree the extriminist must be eliminated.
Yes it is a critical area.

But you cannot compare Sandzak with the happenings in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo.
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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2007, 08:57:26 AM »
Did you know that the Serbian langue was the second official langue in the whole Ottoman empire?

No, it was not. Maybe many officials have spoken Serbian language. They were converted to Islams by force, taken form their mother's arms and brainwashed in special institutions to become the Muslims.

Did you know that the greatest Turkish warlord (of Serbian origin) Mehmet pasa Sokolovic gave permission for the reestablishment of the srpska parohija of Pec in Kosovo?

He was taken as little boy (10 years old, I believe), became big general in their army, but never forgot his roots. His permission was granted to his brother Zaharije. So he was the converted SERB who did good for his people, very rare case in history of my people.

I do not think this forum is place for you, the way you think is : Muslims come to our fatherland, kill, rape, take our kids to their army and on
top of that their rule is good. Are you kidding me? So their rule was good only because it could be even worse? :o :o
Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: Serbia threatens to use force if West recognizes Kosovo!!!!
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2007, 09:51:07 AM »
Please read my posts better.
Because i must repeat my self again. The Turks were occupators they destroyed our state. They commited crimes against us during their conquerings.


But we were not in the same situation like in the period of NDH (1941 - 1945)


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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2007, 10:00:22 AM »
Did you know that the Serbian langue was the second official langue in the whole Ottoman empire?

No, it was not. Maybe many officials have spoken Serbian language. They were converted to Islams by force, taken form their mother's arms and brainwashed in special institutions to become the Muslims.

Read a Serbian historical book about the Serbian nation.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2007, 10:06:07 AM »
So their rule was good only because it could be even worse? :o :o

I did not say that it was something good.

What do you want now?
Must we hate all the Turks now because of what their forefathers have done?

Must we now also hate the Bulgarians
they committed also serious crimes against us during WW1?