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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2008, 11:43:53 AM »
Did you hear about the fire in the three family walk up in New Jersey?

A black family of six lived on the first floor. They all perished in
the fire.

A Mexican family of eight lived on the second floor. They also
perished.

A white couple lived on the third floor. They survived.

Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.



The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.
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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2008, 11:45:30 AM »
Ruby is a sweetheart. I love her accent. But I disagree with her to a large extent about race and genetics. Our skin is just a glove.

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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2008, 11:50:14 AM »
Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.
The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.

 :::D

Ruby is a sweetheart. I love her accent. But I disagree with her to a large extent about race and genetics. Our skin is just a glove.

Thanks.  ;D I don't mind if people disagree with me. It makes for a more interesting message board.

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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #78 on: July 25, 2008, 03:14:50 PM »
I think if America is to take in refugees like the Sudanese, it should be to keep them safe until they can go back home.  They should never move here permanently except for very very, extreme situations.  We should have a system to keep people safe from Muslim milling hordes until the Muzzies can be defeated and then they can go back home. 

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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #79 on: July 25, 2008, 04:33:45 PM »
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?

We're genetically different from blacks, and this does influence behavior. Blacks are superior when it comes to many sports, they are superior when it comes to standing in the hot sun and not fainting from heat exhaustion or getting burnt to a crisp. They are perfectly suited for living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Africa. They're not so suited to a modern lifestyle.

One reason that blacks tend to be more sexual at an earlier age than whites is that they develop faster. They reach puberty at an earlier age, in fact, they develop faster in the womb than whites and on average naturally live a shorter lifespan because of a naturally different rate of aging.

Studies have shown them to be more impulsive than whites, which might be all right if you're living on the African plains, but can really hurt you in a structured society where rules have to be adhered to and impulsive behavior can lead to jail time.

Their brains are actually structured differently than those of whites. They have smaller brains overall, and less developed frontal lobes, which contribute to thoughts of "planning for the future" and other such things. This would also contribute to a higher crime rate, because of a lessened ability to foresee the long-term consequences of one's own actions. "I didn't do nuffin", etc.

The skeletal structure is different. Anyone who tells you that race is based on "skin color" doesn't know what they're talking about. Physical anthropologists can tell the difference between skeletons of different races. We all know that there are other physical differences that go beyond skin color and include facial differences, limb length, tendency toward certain diseases, etc.

You can't have all these physical differences without some influence on the person's brain to be different as well.

Whites generally score better than blacks on tasks like reading, writing, language skills, and math. It's not racism that keeps blacks from achieving at the same level as whites in these areas, it's biology.





This is acceptable and probably true in a rough sense.  I will add that while blacks theoretically are built better and will be better at sports by practicing lessthan a white person who is built smaller, the white person still can practice a whole lot more and maybe be just as good...the same goes with anything intellectual.  Blacks theoretically might have a tougher time reading and doing math than whites.  However, with more practice and different modes of teaching, they might be just as good.

And it isn't racist what you are saying, Rubystars.  Even based on what you are saying that genes might influence what one's behavior might be later on, which they probably do, it means that each race or nation requires a different sent of standards in their religions, theology, and view of Gd.  For that reason, I, and I beleive JTF, disagrees in a One world One Nation One Religion existence.  Each culture, race, and nation is unique in character, maybe based slightly on the genetics of their behaviors.  Not one single theology is right for everyone.  It just leads to a Tower of Babel.
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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #80 on: July 25, 2008, 05:57:11 PM »
Did you hear about the fire in the three family walk up in New Jersey?

A black family of six lived on the first floor. They all perished in
the fire.

A Mexican family of eight lived on the second floor. They also
perished.

A white couple lived on the third floor. They survived.

Jesse Jackson demanded to know why the whites survived when the others
didn't.



The fire chief said the answer was simple. The white couple was at work
when the fire broke out.

:::D
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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #81 on: July 25, 2008, 06:19:43 PM »
I am a racialist, big difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialist

If that is what society considers a racist, then oh well. That is my stance, and my stance only, doesn't mean it represents the JTF's stance as a whole.

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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #82 on: July 25, 2008, 06:27:26 PM »
I have a question for you RubyStars. Do you thing that white people are GENETICALLY superior than Blacks?

We're genetically different from blacks, and this does influence behavior. Blacks are superior when it comes to many sports, they are superior when it comes to standing in the hot sun and not fainting from heat exhaustion or getting burnt to a crisp. They are perfectly suited for living a hunter-gatherer lifestyle in Africa. They're not so suited to a modern lifestyle.

One reason that blacks tend to be more sexual at an earlier age than whites is that they develop faster. They reach puberty at an earlier age, in fact, they develop faster in the womb than whites and on average naturally live a shorter lifespan because of a naturally different rate of aging.

Studies have shown them to be more impulsive than whites, which might be all right if you're living on the African plains, but can really hurt you in a structured society where rules have to be adhered to and impulsive behavior can lead to jail time.

Their brains are actually structured differently than those of whites. They have smaller brains overall, and less developed frontal lobes, which contribute to thoughts of "planning for the future" and other such things. This would also contribute to a higher crime rate, because of a lessened ability to foresee the long-term consequences of one's own actions. "I didn't do nuffin", etc.

The skeletal structure is different. Anyone who tells you that race is based on "skin color" doesn't know what they're talking about. Physical anthropologists can tell the difference between skeletons of different races. We all know that there are other physical differences that go beyond skin color and include facial differences, limb length, tendency toward certain diseases, etc.

You can't have all these physical differences without some influence on the person's brain to be different as well.

Whites generally score better than blacks on tasks like reading, writing, language skills, and math. It's not racism that keeps blacks from achieving at the same level as whites in these areas, it's biology.



So I'm guessing you very well and factual answer is yes. However, I have a different philosophy than you do on this issue RubyStars.

Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of [censored] we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.
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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #83 on: July 25, 2008, 07:54:23 PM »
The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

This is an excellent point but we do have to be honest that certain physical traits do give us tendencies for bias. For example, if blacks are naturally more athletic, then they might tend to have a disposition towards sports. It's not something that you can completely remove from the equation and it does have an effect - perhaps not to the level that those who are racist would like to believe.

My point is that there is almost always a positive and a negative to physical differences in human beings so each trait can be used for good or evil. And extreme example could be someone born with an inclination for killing can become a mass murderer or a soldier defending others' lives. The elitist genetic argument is really a humanistic and egotistical concept. It mistakenly assumes that either there is no Creator or that the Creator makes mistakes. It's people who make mistakes from their own choices.

So you are correct. Most of the reason they have so many problems is because the society and culture that they live in condone, and even glorify, evil behavior. It's still no excuse. Every person has the ability to choose and there are a few who take a stand against the majority.

We should never say that people will behave one way or another based on their skin color because that is ridiculous. We can, however, say that a group of people (who may or may not share the same coloring) are evil based on their actions (i.e. islam goes beyond racial boundaries).
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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #84 on: July 26, 2008, 09:47:50 PM »
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"



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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.
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« Reply #85 on: July 26, 2008, 09:51:36 PM »
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"



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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.



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Re: JTFers official condemnation of racism.
« Reply #86 on: July 26, 2008, 09:54:05 PM »
My point is that there is almost always a positive and a negative to physical differences in human beings so each trait can be used for good or evil. And extreme example could be someone born with an inclination for killing can become a mass murderer or a soldier defending others' lives. The elitist genetic argument is really a humanistic and egotistical concept. It mistakenly assumes that either there is no Creator or that the Creator makes mistakes. It's people who make mistakes from their own choices.

God didn't make a mistake, but people sure did when they tried to mix incompatible cultures and peoples together in the same countries.

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« Reply #87 on: July 26, 2008, 11:44:03 PM »
Let me just respond to one statement you made. The fact that their brain is naturally smaller does not mean that the quality of their brain is inferior to a larger brain. The size of someone's brain has nothing to do with the quality of the brain. That's an old wise tale. RubyStars, you are a women. The women's brain is smaller than the men's brain. So are you inferior Genetically to an idiot like John Kerry, because your brain is naturally smaller?

Men's and women's brains are different, but neither is inferior. Some of that size difference has to do with body size being different too. Both men and women with similar education score about the same on intelligence tests.

However, what we're most interested are the folds of the cerebrum, where all the thinking goes on. Whites have more developed frontal lobes, and more folds of the cerebrum overall than blacks. Of course, as Dr. Dan pointed out, someone who is naturally better at something (let's say sports, or math) might not be as good at it as someone who is naturally worse at it, because the naturally worse person could work out, train, or study and end up better than the naturally inclined person who didn't do any of the above. You can't really judge an individual's ability due to that variable factor. However, large groups of people who have certain tendencies (like an entire race) are going to show patterns when you compare them to the group of people who have a different tendency. Whites are simply better at building advanced civilizations and did it, while blacks are still scarifying their children in the tribe and putting plates in their lips to be "Beautiful"



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The reason that the large majority of blacks tend to commit more crimes, Do not succeed, have sex earlier, and do drugs is not Genetics. It is Society. From the time they are born to the time they die, they are exposed to this disgusting pile of excrement we call pop culture. It preaches Gang activity, murder, sex , drug use, and racism. The sad fact is they think that they are supposed to do this because of their race. They use the color of their skin as an excuse for all their misfortunes because that is how we treat them. We treat them like they are little innocent discriminated people. So they cash in on that and do what they want. They think that they do not have to work because it is drilled into them like they don't have the ability to fend for themselves and to hate the white man.

All that stuff about "society" causing their problems is just a long winded way that liberals use to blame "whitey". It's liberal code-words. Whites don't have anything to be ashamed of when it comes to blacks being degenerate. We gave them all the "reparations" they could take, and they are still just as degenerate if not worse than they were before.  They choose to follow an evil way of life and create an evil, degenerate culture. Genetics contributes to this, of course, but I know I can't get most of you to accept that.
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.
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« Reply #88 on: July 26, 2008, 11:48:52 PM »
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

You don't have to agree with me for me to respect you and your right to have a different opinion. I don't think they're "inferior" per se, just inferior when it comes to living in a society that's incompatible with their nature.

I was watching CNN a while ago and they were having some negro-loving special on about being black in America. They said 1 in 3 black men will serve a prison sentence. Those are just the ones that get caught!

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« Reply #89 on: July 26, 2008, 11:51:15 PM »
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!
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« Reply #90 on: July 26, 2008, 11:51:37 PM »
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

You don't have to agree with me for me to respect you and your right to have a different opinion. I don't think they're "inferior" per se, just inferior when it comes to living in a society that's incompatible with their nature.

I was watching CNN a while ago and they were having some negro-loving special on about being black in America. They said 1 in 3 black men will serve a prison sentence. Those are just the ones that get caught!
That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.
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« Reply #91 on: July 26, 2008, 11:52:23 PM »
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!

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« Reply #92 on: July 26, 2008, 11:54:58 PM »
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That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.

Yes it's quite scary! One of many reasons why I oppose racial mixing.

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« Reply #93 on: July 26, 2008, 11:56:09 PM »
I disagree. I highly doubt that they are genetically inferior.

When it comes to running and jumping they're superior!

 ;D

Quite true, Scriabin.

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« Reply #94 on: July 26, 2008, 11:56:25 PM »
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That is still a considerable amount, 1 of 3.

Yes it's quite scary! One of many reasons why I oppose racial mixing.
Naturally.
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« Reply #95 on: July 26, 2008, 11:57:28 PM »
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.

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« Reply #96 on: July 27, 2008, 12:00:13 AM »
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.
Yes Scriabin, I said that.
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« Reply #97 on: July 27, 2008, 12:05:24 AM »
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.

I fixed it.

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« Reply #98 on: July 27, 2008, 12:18:34 AM »
By the way Scriabin you have me as saying that quote in one of your posts, but it was actually ProJewChristian who said it.

I fixed it.

Thank you :)

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« Reply #99 on: July 27, 2008, 12:21:05 AM »
Well done.
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