For US citizens: Do you pay income tax and why?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

He doesn't have to. He is a German nationalist/"racial realist" in the vein of his mentor, David Duke. Duke's organization believes that Aryans/Teutons (those of the German ethnolanguage family) are the only true whites.

[Ambiorix]

Most people here in Flanders and Holland don't consider Moroccans or turks as whte neither.
Lots of people in Scandinavia don't consider Italians and other mediteranians as white neither.

Aside from that, I would not be in favour of blacks or muslims having the right to bear arms anywhere in the world.

[MarZutra]

Marzutra,

If you are so inclined, change it... I dont know what is accomplished by complaining like this. There is nothing which will make me ashamed to be an American. Brother, this has nothing to do with being ashamed to be an American.  It does however have something to do with an unconstitutional, and therefore un-American schema that was progressed/introduced by for a valid, however debatable, reason and kept due to corruption.  Anything that is called for in the Communist Manifesto is, I would say, un-American.  I love America more than I do Canada as Canada is like the Titanic in many respects.  Don't get me wrong I'm still very pro-Canadian but our Government sure isn't just like yours is not pro-American...Our family has been in this country for three generations and we have flourished. My great grandfather came to USA with $20 in his pocket. My grandfather was successful in business. A highly comparable example relating to my great grandfather who walked from Kieve/Odessa in the 1880's, became a peddler in London to save to come to Canada.  Came to Canada and started a small business and brought his siblings over as well and arranged marriage to the sister of a friend he met along the way in similar circumstances.  Othodox man, meets Orthodox Man.  Man tells plight of family back in the old country.  The two went to the Rabbi here in St. John, New Brunswick who made contact with the Rabbi back in Russia...and the sister arrived and they married between 4-6 months later... .My father was an executive in Fortune 500 businesses. My brother worked on Wall Street and eventually worked at the top of the World Trade center for Cantor Fitzgerald. We have so much opportunity in this country. I feel I owe so much to our great country.  I do as well and one of the biggest and most economically beneficial contributions would be to ask for the repeal of the Income Tax.  That much more money in ones pocket would benefit the people much more than the fat salaries and financing the ever expanding beuracracy of the centralized federal government.  Make no mistake about it.  One can be very anti-income tax, anti-Immigration or anti-Establisment and be very pro-American....  I make no claim to my pro-American leanings I simply feel, as in Canada, that income tax is a crime and further the Establishements are very anti-American/Canadian as they are "progressing" all of the globalist and socialist policies that are distroying this, and your, nation...  That's my point Muman.  You are very correct in holding your views as they are the proper ones to hold...I'm simply pointing out a terrible tragedy, amongst many that is bringing down the once economic, civil and productive powerhouse this Earth has ever seen..

Aside from paying taxes I also donate over $6k a year to various charities. Taxes do not excuse a person from giving charity. That is 100% correct.  Again brother, you are 100% correct.  The socialist agenda/schema is designed to make people always rely on the government and not solving the problems, doing or being productive themselves.  You hit the nail on the head.  Charity is the moral position where one takes his hard earned and gives it to an entity, being of his/her individual choice.  The Socialist/Communist idea is for the government to take...take...and take more then use those monies to whichever end they desire and not you.  You as the citizen has no say where your monies are spent. 

So instead of you donating your hard earned to help Jewish children recover after their parents were massacred by the Mohammadan Savages, your dollars are now sent to Mahmoud Abbas or Nasrallah as "Foreign Aid" or "Humanitarian Relief". Even the titles are Socialist/Humanitarian....

You know brother, if you want a very good read.  Look up the article that was presented to Congress in 1884 I believe by Col. David Crockett: "Not Yours to Give".  A very interesting read on the arguement between taxation and independant charity.  Enjoy:  "Not Yours to Give" by Col. David Crockett:  http://patriotpost.us/histdocs/crockett_not_yours_to_give.asp

muman613

[Rubystars]

Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments as well as their appearance. Greeks and Italians contributed a lot to the white race and the world.

[Ambiorix]

Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments as well as their appearance. Greeks and Italians contributed a lot to the white race and the world.

That's of course true, but in the North, people have reservations for these southern Europeans.

[MarZutra]

Similarly to views held by the enlightened European Ashkenaz Jews towards their Sephard brethren...

[muman613]

Marzutra,

If you are so inclined, change it... I dont know what is accomplished by complaining like this. There is nothing which will make me ashamed to be an American. Brother, this has nothing to do with being ashamed to be an American.  It does however have something to do with an unconstitutional, and therefore un-American schema that was progressed/introduced by for a valid, however debatable, reason and kept due to corruption.  Anything that is called for in the Communist Manifesto is, I would say, un-American.  I love America more than I do Canada as Canada is like the Titanic in many respects.  Don't get me wrong I'm still very pro-Canadian but our Government sure isn't just like yours is not pro-American...Our family has been in this country for three generations and we have flourished. My great grandfather came to USA with $20 in his pocket. My grandfather was successful in business. A highly comparable example relating to my great grandfather who walked from Kieve/Odessa in the 1880's, became a peddler in London to save to come to Canada.  Came to Canada and started a small business and brought his siblings over as well and arranged marriage to the sister of a friend he met along the way in similar circumstances.  Othodox man, meets Orthodox Man.  Man tells plight of family back in the old country.  The two went to the Rabbi here in St. John, New Brunswick who made contact with the Rabbi back in Russia...and the sister arrived and they married between 4-6 months later... .My father was an executive in Fortune 500 businesses. My brother worked on Wall Street and eventually worked at the top of the World Trade center for Cantor Fitzgerald. We have so much opportunity in this country. I feel I owe so much to our great country.  I do as well and one of the biggest and most economically beneficial contributions would be to ask for the repeal of the Income Tax.  That much more money in ones pocket would benefit the people much more than the fat salaries and financing the ever expanding beuracracy of the centralized federal government.  Make no mistake about it.  One can be very anti-income tax, anti-Immigration or anti-Establisment and be very pro-American....  I make no claim to my pro-American leanings I simply feel, as in Canada, that income tax is a crime and further the Establishements are very anti-American/Canadian as they are "progressing" all of the globalist and socialist policies that are distroying this, and your, nation...  That's my point Muman.  You are very correct in holding your views as they are the proper ones to hold...I'm simply pointing out a terrible tragedy, amongst many that is bringing down the once economic, civil and productive powerhouse this Earth has ever seen..

Aside from paying taxes I also donate over $6k a year to various charities. Taxes do not excuse a person from giving charity. That is 100% correct.  Again brother, you are 100% correct.  The socialist agenda/schema is designed to make people always rely on the government and not solving the problems, doing or being productive themselves.  You hit the nail on the head.  Charity is the moral position where one takes his hard earned and gives it to an entity, being of his/her individual choice.  The Socialist/Communist idea is for the government to take...take...and take more then use those monies to whichever end they desire and not you.  You as the citizen has no say where your monies are spent. 

So instead of you donating your hard earned to help Jewish children recover after their parents were massacred by the Mohammadan Savages, your dollars are now sent to Mahmoud Abbas or Nasrallah as "Foreign Aid" or "Humanitarian Relief". Even the titles are Socialist/Humanitarian....

You know brother, if you want a very good read.  Look up the article that was presented to Congress in 1884 I believe by Col. David Crockett: "Not Yours to Give".  A very interesting read on the arguement between taxation and independant charity.  Enjoy:  "Not Yours to Give" by Col. David Crockett:  http://patriotpost.us/histdocs/crockett_not_yours_to_give.asp

muman613

Marzutra,

I understand your position and I apologize if I was implying you are anti-american/anti-candadian... It would be excellent if we could make a tax system which is fair to everyone. I believe that is your intention.

muman613

[MarZutra]

Absolutely Muman!  Ending of income tax on the individual income but institute a standard tax system on the individual/corporate purchases and business profits as profits are not income.  I simply find it sad that so many of the Communist planks have been progressed via questionable means onto all of the once productive and relatively moral abiding and civilized Western World...  We are not only loosing our individuality but nationality, culture, language, rights and even private property, in my opinion will be severely hindered.  As the base income of the American falls, the dollar becomes worthless, their expenses rise, jobs flee due to "Free Trade" or filled by illegals one will lose their private homes and forced into "cheaper" "collective" housing: aka: appartments...  Only the few will be able to comfortably support a family living in a single dwelling with land...etc....

My prediction of the West if this Socialist insanity is not confronted.  Sorry for the gloom and doom but this is how I see America and Canada by the time I reach retirement... 

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments

Huh?   What does that even mean?    Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ?   That is insane.   If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything.   Was Louis Armstrong therefore white?  He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history!  So he was "white" with black skin???    That is just insane.

[White Israelite]

Most people here in Flanders and Holland don't consider Moroccans or turks as whte neither.
Lots of people in Scandinavia don't consider Italians and other mediteranians as white neither.

Aside from that, I would not be in favour of blacks or muslims having the right to bear arms anywhere in the world.

I think northern africa is a mix up, as for turkey, I would definitely not consider them white, they look central asian.

[MarZutra]

CF, not at all.  If you look at Ron Paul's views on income tax, federal reserve and his non-anti-Establishment agenda he'd have been the only one to support.  I could give or take his foreign policy and his benightedness on Islam specifically but one must also not the fact that if an Orthodox Jew took an intensely nationalist position agaisnt the Establisment, closing the borders, throwing out the illegals etc. etc. he'd also get much support from the "White Suprs" as well.  If I'm not mistaken they supported Barry Goldwater.

My point is, America needs a non, and even better anti, Establisment individual in the whitehouse to stop this Elitist lead International Socialist agenda that has been undermining the Constitution and the American people since Woodrow Wilson.  I agree to disagree with you brother.

If one took the absolute worst case synerio and Paul was a "Nazi" that would be a blessing in that he'd get Israel off the American dole, and further be working as a tool of HaShem to bring about mass Aliyah to Eretz Yisrael.  May redemption come....and the sooner the better...

Should you disagree with this position, t'is ok my friend...  This is one man's opinion...

[nopeaceforland]

Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning!

[Shamgar]

Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning!

Do you take the upper bunk or the lower bunk?

[nopeaceforland]

Why? I don't want a cell mate named Bruno telling me how pretty I look every morning!

Do you take the upper bunk or the lower bunk?

I'd be the psycho path nobody's desperate to touch or look at!

[Rubystars]

Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments

Huh?   What does that even mean?    Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ?   That is insane.   If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything.   Was Louis Armstrong therefore white?  He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history!  So he was "white" with black skin???    That is just insane.

No I was saying that they contributed so much to the white race that'd it's silly to exclude Southern Europeans. They're just as white as other European indigenous people.

Also part of what I meant is that by accomplishing so much and having such complex societies they were "acting white" (as opposed to living in mud huts) so that should put to rest any doubts.

[White Israelite]

Aren't there legal ways to prevent paying income tax? I heard if you donate to charities and stuff.

[Ambiorix]

Meds are clearly white. You can tell from their amazing accomplishments

Huh?   What does that even mean?    Someone accomplishes something it means we can classify them as "white" ?   That is insane.   If someone accomplishes something, we can classify them as successful, but their skin color can be anything.   Was Louis Armstrong therefore white?  He was afterall one of the best trumpet players in history!  So he was "white" with black skin???    That is just insane.

No I was saying that they contributed so much to the white race that'd it's silly to exclude Southern Europeans. They're just as white as other European indigenous people.

Also part of what I meant is that by accomplishing so much and having such complex societies they were "acting white" (as opposed to living in mud huts) so that should put to rest any doubts.

Some Southern Europeans are darker than some north-Africans...

So for me, generally speaking of course, the most white are the Scandinavian people, and the most black are the Africans somwhere around Congo or so.

All the rest is in between that.

The further to the East from West-Europe, the more Mogoloid the people are.

So a 21st century Swede is generally speaking of a lighter skin and hair color than a typical 21th century Greek (in these days Greeks are heavily mixed with Turks etc,...)

Of course if the third world immigration maddness goes on, in a couple of decades, (20 or so ) blond people will be as extinct as red- haired people are already today.

[Scriabin]

G-d bless the IRS. 

[Rubystars]

Some Southern Europeans are darker than some north-Africans...

So for me, generally speaking of course, the most white are the Scandinavian people, and the most black are the Africans somwhere around Congo or so.

All the rest is in between that.

The further to the East from West-Europe, the more Mogoloid the people are.

So a 21st century Swede is generally speaking of a lighter skin and hair color than a typical 21th century Greek (in these days Greeks are heavily mixed with Turks etc,...)

Of course if the third world immigration maddness goes on, in a couple of decades, (20 or so ) blond people will be as extinct as red- haired people are already today.

I feel sad for Greek people being so heavily mixed today. Did their nation really die out, or are there still relatively pure Greeks around?

I only have Celtic (Irish, English, Scottish) and German blood as far as I know. I'm very light and my sister is so pale she could glow in the dark almost.

I saw a Web page one time that showed Southern European models that were tanned and not tanned. When they were tanned, they appeared to have olive colored skinned but when they weren't tanned their skin was as pale as any other white person's. Could it simply be that Southern Europe has stronger sun?

My father has tan-colored skin on every exposed part from working outside for many years in Texas. You can tell he's Irish and German by the shape of his facial features and his hazel eyes. When he takes his shirt off you can tell he's naturally pale like my sister and I.

Anyway I just thought I'd throw that out there as one possibility why many of them could be darker skinned.

I've made jokes about trying to pass as a white Spaniard and changing my name so that I could be classified as "Hispanic" when I go job hunting, so I won't be discriminated against. Many people here in America are unfortunately stupid enough not to know the difference between white Spaniards and Mexicans. There's a problem with my diabolical plan though... I just don't have their facial structure at all so I could never pass for Spanish. lol

One more question, do the people who consider Meds nonwhite treat Nordics or Alpines who mary Meds as if they were race mixing?

[Ambiorix]

I feel sad for Greek people being so heavily mixed today.
I think the original ethnic Greek of 300 years ago is not the same as the todays average Greek. As are the original Romans, Celths, ... they all intermarried in Englan, France,....

Did their nation really die out, or are there still relatively pure Greeks around?

I suppose there genes dwell somewhere from Spain to Persia....

I only have Celtic (Irish, English, Scottish) and German blood as far as I know. I'm very light and my sister is so pale she could glow in the dark almost.

Than you're British-German looking. Good It is not a crime to be proud of one's family lines.

I saw a Web page one time that showed Southern European models that were tanned and not tanned. When they were tanned, they appeared to have olive colored skinned but when they weren't tanned their skin was as pale as any other white person's.

People with blond (I mean almost white) hair and blue eyes, such as the Fins, the Swedes, get easily burned in the sun.
They have less pigment, and therefore people that live 1000-2000-3000-4000km to the south will gradually have
more brown-black hair/green eyes. Blond Hiar+ Blue eyes like Swedish people become gradually less comon in Denmark, althoug still very dominant, in Germany (of course an awful lot of non-Europeans that are about to interbreed!) in the North, people are usually blond too.
In the middle of Europe, lots of people are blond, but they are "darker blond" i.e. gradations between white-yellow-light brown... In Russia there are also lot of blond people. (Vikings that went on "business trips" in Russia)
Could it simply be that Southern Europe has stronger sun?
yes, these people there never needed to adapt to the climate of the north (where there is a period of 6 months of darkness, as did the Scandinavians... With a darker skin there, you'd lack vit. D absorption, and become easier sick ...
My father has tan-colored skin on every exposed part from working outside for many years in Texas. You can tell he's Irish and German by the shape of his facial features and his hazel eyes. When he takes his shirt off you can tell he's naturally pale like my sister and I.

Anyway I just thought I'd throw that out there as one possibility why many of them could be darker skinned.

I've made jokes about trying to pass as a white Spaniard and changing my name so that I could be classified as "Hispanic" when I go job hunting, so I won't be discriminated against. Many people here in America are unfortunately stupid enough not to know the difference between white Spaniards and Mexicans. There's a problem with my diabolical plan though... I just don't have their facial structure at all so I could never pass for Spanish. lol


One more question, do the people who consider Meds nonwhite treat Nordics or Alpines who mary Meds as if they were race mixing?

Well, Nordic people are quite reserved, they will not tell you such things, unless you know them quite well.
They emphasize on culture, and language first, as a condition to be accepted as an immigrant there.
Of course, that is also more politically correct, and less racist than telling you dislike people because of their colour.
But,  to my experience, indeed, people from Denmark and Sweden could consider someone who marries an Italian as a race-mixer.
Danish women and men, are more radically against intermarriage with non-Europeans than Swedes , btw...
Denmark is rather right-wing. Sweden rather left-wing...
Holland is lost, There is a lot of blond women with half [censored]-babies... compare it with USA... Obama's mother types....

France (of course majority brown haired) is intermingling at a staggering rate with North-Africans...an black africans.. Germany less, but the inner cities in the south, and the Ruhr-Gebiet, (industrial hearth of Germany),
are filled with non-Europeans....

Belgium... what can I say... not as bad as Holland, but Brussel (capital of Europe's new Soviet-Union) is 56% non-European...

I guess the politicians, after the WWII wanted to proove they were no nazis, by letting in millions of non-Europeans...

Now we see, we are in a similar situation as the Native americans were...
Only, we facilitate the enemy...

[Rubystars]

Thanks for explaining all that Ambiorix. I think what really upsets me is to prove they're not Nazis, they're allowing a complete genocide of our race.

Is there any sign of a resistance at all?

[Rubystars]

I just don't get how people can think these folks aren't white...



This is Mario Batali. He doesn't exactly look like an Arab.



Pablo Picasso, looks like any old white guy you'd see at the supermarket in this picture.

I guess if most of the white people you encounter are blonde, blue eyed and very pale though, I could see how people might consider these people as "other", but I don't think it's fair for anyone to say they're a completely different racial group.

At any rate I always thought of the diversity of the white race as being one of its best qualities. That we don't need non-white diversity, we've got all the eye and hair colors within our race and a range of skin tones as well (although all fairly pale).

[MarZutra]

Look at the nose on that fellow.... He must be a Jooo

[Rubystars]

Look at the nose on that fellow.... He must be a Jooo

I think that idiot Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell thought Picasso was Jewish. lol Goes to show how stupid Nazis are.

There's a French guy I work with who has a big nose like that.

[MarZutra]

There is a good story I was reading in Martin Gilbert's book "The Holocaust", I believe, where Herr Schickelgruber: Hitler, held an Aryan poster child search throughout all Germany.  A Jewess sent a picture in of her child, this is during the anti-semitic pogroms, after Kristalnaught, in to be judged.  The Reich chose her child due to the "Aryan" features: blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin..

After its printing in the papers they found out it was a Jew.....  Of course the picture was pulled but....  as far as I know the story is truthful and a good example of how, in many cases, the "racial" theories can become farcical...