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« on: September 11, 2008, 12:07:48 PM »
when trying to find what % of doctors there are in israel. I ran into this completely unrelated article.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/320/7249/1561

Doctors' strike in Israel may be good for health
Judy Siegel-Itzkovich , Jerusalem

Industrial action by doctors in Israel seems to be good for their patients' health. Death rates have dropped considerably in most of the country since physicians in public hospitals implemented a programme of sanctions three months ago, according to a survey of burial societies.

The Israel Medical Association began the action on 9 March to protest against the treasury's proposed imposition of a new four year wage contract for doctors. Since then, hundreds of thousands of visits to outpatient clinics have been cancelled or postponed along with tens of thousands of elective operations. Public hospitals, which provide the vast majority of secondary and tertiary medical care, have kept their emergency rooms, dialysis units, oncology departments, obstetric and neonatal departments, and other vital facilities working normally during the industrial action.

In the absence of official figures, the Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit making Jewish burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of Israelis, to find out whether the industrial action was affecting deaths in the country.

"The number of funerals we have performed has fallen drastically," said Hananya Shahor, the veteran director of Jerusalem's Kehilat Yerushalayim burial society. "This month, there were only 93 funerals compared with 153 in May 1999, 133 in the same month in 1998, and 139 in May 1997," he said. The society handles 55% of all deaths in the Jerusalem metropolitan area. Last April, there were only 130 deaths compared with 150 or more in previous Aprils. "I can't explain why," said Mr Shahor.

Meir Adler, manager of the Shamgar Funeral Parlour, which buries most other residents of Jerusalem, declared with much more certainty: "There definitely is a connection between the doctors' sanctions and fewer deaths. We saw the same thing in 1983 [when the Israel Medical Association applied sanctions for four and a half months]."

Motti Yeshuvayov of Tel Aviv's only burial society said that he had noticed the same trend in the Tel Aviv metropolitan area in the past two months. The only exception to the trend of decreasing deaths has been in the Haifa area.

The coastal city of Netanya has only one hospital, and it has been spared the industrial action because staff have to sign a no strike clause with their contract. Netanya's burial society, headed by Shlomo Stieglitz, reported 87 funerals last month, the same number as in May 1999. It reported 97 in April compared with 122 in April 1999, and 99 in March as compared with 119 in March 1999. Mr Stieglitz said that his burial society services not only Netanya but also other cities, including Hadera and Kfar Sava, where hospital doctors have joined the sanctions.

Avi Yisraeli, director general of the Hadassah Medical Organization, which owns two university hospitals in the capital, offered his own explanation. "Mortality is not the only measure of harm to health. Lack of medical intervention can lead to disability, pain, and reduced functioning. Elective surgery can bring about a great improvement in a patient's condition, but it can also mean disability and death in the weakest patients. And patients who do not undergo diagnosis or surgery now could decline or die in a few months due to thepostponement."

During the months of the strike, patients "have been going more to their family doctor and to hospital emergency rooms, which have not been affected by sanctions," Professor Yisraeli said.

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Re: doctors strike , death rate drops!
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 01:33:54 PM »
 :::D That doesn't look good for them...

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 06:28:59 PM »
Uh Oh!  :laugh:
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 06:46:44 PM »
Wow!!!!   Maybe people are being more cautious !?!?!?!?!

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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 06:53:17 PM »
It is true, and it was even said by Rebbe Nachman MiBreslev- and I have said in the past and I have heard more then once- people should not rely on doctors. Doctors kill their patients many times (by providing with the wrong solutions), and giving wrong medications which then cause more, other problems. The best thing always is to be healthy and never have to go to doctors, B"H.
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‏119:139 צִמְּתַתְנִי קִנְאָתִי כִּישָׁכְחוּ דְבָרֶיךָ צָרָי
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" A fool does not realize, and an unwise person does not understand this (i.e. the following:) When the wicked bloom like grass, and the evildoers blossom (i.e. when they seem extremly successful), it is to destroy them forever (i.e. they are rewarded for their few good deeds in this World, and they will have no portion in the World to Come!)

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Re: doctors strike , death rate drops!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 08:21:04 PM »
Tzvi,

Obviously there are good doctors and bad doctors.

a good doctor will tell you your options.  If it's some potentially dangerous medication then you can always go to another doctor for a second opinion.

And you can always research things on google. You shouldn't be doing things and be unaware of any well known risks.

All obvious though.