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✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **on:** February 11, 2009, 10:10:22 AM »

I will try to answer if i can.. will try my best..

Welcome any questions related to India,Hindu Nationalism and Hindu Zionism.

ProudAndZionist · « **Reply #1 on:** February 11, 2009, 04:49:51 PM »

What part of India do you live my brother?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #2 on:** February 11, 2009, 11:53:19 PM »

I live in the financial capital of India- Mumbai

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:20:16 AM »

Are you member of RSS or any other hindu nationalist organization?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2009, 04:47:21 AM »

yes. I am associated with VHP, which is affiliated to the RSS - World's Largest Volunteering organisation.

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #5 on:** February 26, 2009, 11:11:09 AM »

what is hinduism stance on interreligious marriage? whats your opinion on a hindu girl marrying a christian?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #6 on:** February 26, 2009, 11:55:48 AM »

If they are getting married due to true love, we have no objections. If the woman is truely Hindu by heart she would bring her culture and impart it into her Christian family as well.

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #7 on:** February 26, 2009, 12:26:20 PM »

Quote from: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on February 26, 2009, 11:55:48 AM

If they are getting married due to true love, we have no objections. If the woman is truely Hindu by heart she would bring her culture and impart it into her Christian family as well.

thats good, hindus are quite tolerant towards other religions

Zelhar · « **Reply #8 on:** February 26, 2009, 03:45:13 PM »

Is Hindu Nationalism accepted as legitimate ideology ? Any Attempts to silence or outlaw it ?

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2009, 05:26:02 AM »

what is hindu-nationalism about? a hindu "theocratic state"? is hindu-nationalism, religious fundamentalism?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:08:41 AM »

Quote from: Zelhar on February 26, 2009, 03:45:13 PM

Is Hindu Nationalism accepted as legitimate ideology ? Any Attempts to silence or outlaw it ?

Hindu Nationalism is known as "Hindutva" in Hindi. Hindutva was formulated by V.D. Savarkar ( year 1923) who we consider the greatest of all Indian freedom fighter India ever produced. Similar to what Rabbi Kahane is to the Kahanist movement. There have been 4 instances in history while Hindutva organisations were targeted by socialists Congress and the leftists. The first was after the assassination of Gandhi. The guy who assassinated Gandhi was member of the Hindutva movement lead by Savarkar. It was outlawed then, but the Jury was not able to point out that the organisation had any thing to do with the acts of the assassinator, hence the ban was revoked. Next was during the 1970's , the then Indira Gandhi government felt threatened by the RSS due to the support it was generating, and how it could work against their government for maintaining their power in India politics. That led to emergency where 80000 RSS activists were put behind bars with Congress fraudulently charging them as a threat to Indian Democracy. Yet again they failed to provide any evidence and RSS was again active. next was in 1992 when Hindu Nationalists with mass support from Hindu people of India broke down the Mosque like structure which was built over a Hindu Holy Site. What ensued was major riots in Hindu-Muslim areas in India where many people lost lives. The Congress government again tried to ban Hindu Nationalist organisations claiming that we had incited the riots-violence. The forth one was recently when Hindutva organisations were charged with fomenting destruction of Churches in certain remote tribal areas of a state of India,Orissa particularly.

The major thing which works in the favor of Hindutva organisations is the fact that we have grown a lot in the last 20 years and have more than 50000+ social service and upliftment projects working under us. So if we are outlawed.The people are the only one who are going to suffer. Secondly Hindutva Organisations get tremendous support from Outside of India by NRI's(Non-residential Indians). Right now there are 15 million active members working for our organisations (RSS-BJP-VHP) collectively.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2009, 06:17:47 AM »

Quote from: Inquiring Mind on February 27, 2009, 05:26:02 AM

what is hindu-nationalism about? a hindu "theocratic state"? is hindu-nationalism, religious fundamentalism?

Hindutva has little to do with Hinduism. It has more to do with protecting the rights on Hindus. It was formulated as a defence mechanism against Islamic aggressors and Missonary activities which lure poor people into switching their religion for money. Savarkar was actually known to be an atheist but he belived Hindus would always be presecuted by Socialist and Leftist ideology. Also he belived Muslims are a threat to the humanity if they get support from these centre-left wingers. Hence the creation of a right wing ideology for Hindus. Since Hindu scriptures basically do not take offence to other religions and that it being very tolerant.. We strongly needed Nationalist thinking which our scriptures would not talk about. But Hindutva does instill some pride among the Hindus and the knowledge we should acquire to save ourself from Jehadi-Nazi type forces.

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2009, 10:52:51 AM »

Quote from: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on February 27, 2009, 06:17:47 AM

Quote from: Inquiring Mind on February 27, 2009, 05:26:02 AM
what is hindu-nationalism about? a hindu "theocratic state"? is hindu-nationalism, religious fundamentalism?
Hindutva has little to do with Hinduism. It has more to do with protecting the rights on Hindus. It was formulated as a defence mechanism against Islamic aggressors and Missonary activities which lure poor people into switching their religion for money. Savarkar was actually known to be an atheist but he belived Hindus would always be presecuted by Socialist and Leftist ideology. Also he belived Muslims are a threat to the humanity if they get support from these centre-left wingers. Hence the creation of a right wing ideology for Hindus. Since Hindu scriptures basically do not take offence to other religions and that it being very tolerant.. We strongly needed Nationalist thinking which our scriptures would not talk about. But Hindutva does instill some pride among the Hindus and the knowledge we should acquire to save ourself from Jehadi-Nazi type forces.

is there any good hindu-nationalist forum?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #13 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:03:02 AM »

http://lkadvani.in/forum/
http://www.sanghparivar.org/forum
http://hinduunity.yuku.com/

Inquiring Mind · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:05:06 AM »

Quote from: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on February 27, 2009, 11:03:02 AM

http://lkadvani.in/forum/
http://www.sanghparivar.org/forum
http://hinduunity.yuku.com/

thanks, i know sangh parivar forums, i post there, are you there too?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #15 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:07:02 AM »

Quote from: Inquiring Mind on February 27, 2009, 11:05:06 AM

Quote from: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on February 27, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
http://lkadvani.in/forum/
http://www.sanghparivar.org/forum
http://hinduunity.yuku.com/

thanks, i know sangh parivar forums, i post there, are you there too?

i'm there ,but not active enough

Geert Akbar · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2009, 11:35:27 PM »

How do you feel about the exiled Dalai Lama living in India? Do you personally like him there or would you hand him back to China to work in a iPod factory if you could?

Thanks,
the Dr.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:11:00 AM »

Ideally Hindu Nationalists support the Dalai Lama and We want to see a free Tibet, a Buddhist State carved out of China. Dont know how it is going to happen though considering Buddhism focusing of peaceful protest against the Chinese government. But I see more negotiations and diplomatic pressure coming on China when India will be ruled by Hindu Nationalist political party of BJP. They would support the Tibet cause like no other Indian socialist party did.

ag337 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2009, 01:38:35 PM »

Hindu,

Presently, I don't have a question, but I do have a comment.
I wanted to tell you that I enjoy reading your threads that you post and that I find them very informative.

I hope that one day, during my travels, that I am able to visit India.
I really would like to experience the culture, spirituality, and atmosphere that is India.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2009, 03:13:50 PM »

Thank You very much Ag, i am humbled to hear that.

I too have to same feeling for Israel. And its my wish to do something for the cause of the Jewish state in my lifetime. Also America, i have my sisters staying there, they always tell me good things about American culture and its people.

Rubystars · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2009, 11:19:04 PM »

How do you reconcile the idea of Hindutva with the multi-religious fabric of India which has given birth to several religions such as Buddhism, Sikhism, Jainism and multiple variations of Hindu practice itself? Why is it you think you have the right to claim India for Hindus when these other religions also originated in India?

Also what is the position of Hindu nationalists when it comes to preservation of endangered native Indian wildlife such as the Asiatic lion, Bengal tigers, and the Indian Rhinoceros?

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2009, 12:54:10 AM »

Hello Rubystars, long time.

According to Hindutva, A person who considers India as his Holy land is a Hindu. Hindutva does not use the word "Hindu" on religious lines. We see it more in Ethnic form. Even according to Indian constitution Sikhs,Buddhists and Jains have Hindu laws applicable. We all have same Marriage laws which comes under Hindu Marriage Act according to constitutional laws. So when Sikhs or Buddhists or Jains get married in India they get married under Hindu marriage act. We have same culture and background.

The VHP(World Hindu Council) was cofounded by a Sikh named Master Tara Singh. During its formation a council of religious people was called which also included the Dalai Lama.

SO when Muslims and Communists in India make propaganda that RSS,VHP,BJP are against non-Hindus.. they always fail. As Truth always prevails.

About wildlife preservation, there are many NGO's set up by Hindu Nationalist organisations who work towards it. Thanks to Maneka Gandhi (Member of Parliament of BJP), her work is incomparable in this field. While most of the Hindu Nationalists are more concerned about protection of Cow.

Rubystars · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2009, 09:01:06 AM »

Thanks for answering my questions. I have one major concern which makes me very unhappy whenever this Hindu stuff is brought up. What in the world do you plan to do to the 24 million Christians in India? I already know what's happened to some of them.

✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2009, 10:29:48 AM »

We do not have any problems with Christians in India. I have many good christian friends who's faith I respect.

The problem is with missionaries, they are employing wild tactics to change demographics of few regions which they are targeting. First the problems in Orissa after the murder of a Hindu religious leader,Hindu tribals reacted. This has happened in 2008, there are no major accounted reports of Hindus opposing church activities. You will find a lot of propaganda crap made by Muslims trying to show that all minorites are under thread and not just them. They are trying to portray Christians on the same level as them.

There was another incident which happened in the state of Karnataka which started with offensive activites from a Protestant Church. Even the Catholic Church denounced their activites joining the Hindu fundamentalists. Read: http://www.zeenews.com/States/2008-09-18/469935news.html

The leftist Indian Media and the Socialist government of India which is against the Hindu Nationalists have done everything to bring us down.

I like it when Chaim said in one of the Ask JTF shows that those who side with the Muslims in India and are supporting a Socialist government which has always been against Israel, such people are neither true Hindus nor true Christians.

Rubystars · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2009, 08:04:25 PM »

It is natural for Christians in India to seek to share their faith. I don't believe in doing this in a coercive or deceitful way, but if done in the right way by giving people a clear choice in which religion to follow by educating people about what both are about, then I don't see what the issue is unless you are against freedom of religious choice.

If a Hindu understands what Hinduism teaches and understands what Christianity teaches, then chooses of his or her own free will to become a Christian, then what is the problem?

Thank you very much for answering my questions but I will have a very hard time agreeing with this whole Hindu nationalist position unless I can feel at ease that it wouldn't be stabbing my Christian brothers and sisters in the back. I feel empathy for those 24 million people and I don't want to see them massacred which is what I'm afraid will happen if Hindu nationalists take over.