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Offline Kantanka

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Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« on: September 02, 2010, 04:15:18 PM »
The recent "peace talks" in Washington has brought many opportunities to defend the rights of Jews to their land. Chaim was right to compare how much more land the Muslims had. I got into an argument today and put together a document to prove my point (Chaim's claims are true). In case anyone else needs it, I am putting it up.

In summary,
Jews make up about than 15062497.00 (i.e. 15 million) of world population and occupy 439,266.30 sq km
Muslims make about 1,202,491,130.64 (i.e. 1.2 billion) of world population and occupy 25,152,131.20 sq km
If you combined their lands and shared it, Jews have about 1% and Muslims have 99% but the Muslims want more.

My estimation is based on top 50 countries occupied by Jews and Muslims and then estimate how much land they have based on percentage of the population.

I put the data into a pdf document (in case you want to print and share)
https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B_s3nOZrW1hWNjdkMGZjMzUtOGI1MC00ZTgyLWIxNWYtMjQ4ZDM4NjdiYTEz&hl=en
and I have it in excel as well in case anyone wants to make more charts
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Avs3nOZrW1hWdEY4d3FneVMzUXBTTE04ckVkTGphR2c&hl=en


I collected the statistics from many wikipedia articles (but they have good references)

REFERENCES (Accessed 2010 September 1st)      
      
LAND SIZE      
All Countries   http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/geo_sur_are_sq_km-geography-surface-area-sq-km   
Kosovo   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo   
      
MUSLIM/JEWISH POPULATIONS      
Top 50 Muslim Countries   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_majority_countries   
Top 50 Jewish Countries   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population   
WORLD POPULATIONS      
All countries   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population


BTW, I know Google owns zootube but they also enable you to share documents on Google docs (and now you can share up to 1GB of  of documents in total). This is really useful since it is not like some file sharing sites where the documents are removed after 3 months or if nobody accesses it for a while. Google docs will keep it up forever (at least they have not deleted any of my documents so far).

Offline Ari Ben-Canaan

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Re: Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2010, 12:41:52 AM »
Good work!  :)
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Re: Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2010, 01:13:03 AM »
Yes, good work!  But you'll never convince muslims and Jew-haters with facts, will you?

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Re: Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2010, 02:59:01 AM »
Yes, good work!  But you'll never convince muslims and Jew-haters with facts, will you?
Obviously, Muslims cannot be convinced but there are 6billion minus 1.2 billion people, and a lot of people will see that the Jews are on the just side. At least, if the person is Christian there is often (for me at least) a good chance of getting them to back down from attacking the Jews. G-d promised the Jews things and it would not be good to go out of your way to support the enemies of the will of G-d. If people claim to be logical or just or support human rights they will not be able to go and support any group about human rights if they insist of forcing the Jews to commit national suicide. Logical people will not be able to hold their moral high ground if they go against the Jews.

You also have to pick your fights. Some people can be changed but some people (even if you showed them videos of Muslims calling for death to Jews) will never change. It is better to invest time (I think) convincing those you can instead of those who just waste your time because the time you wasted with a hardliner could have been used to convince several logical people.

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Re: Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2010, 04:30:04 AM »
Katanka, there is only one Jewish country and that is Israel. In its current border it is about 25,000 sqkm. The fact that many Jews live abroad doesn't make the land they live on Jewish. For example there are something like 30,000 Jews in Iran, but Iran is 100% muslim country. And America for that matter is a gentile country. The only country that can be Jewish is Israel and Judaism teaches us that Israel is our one and only country for us to have.

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Re: Statistics Compilation in Support of Jews
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2010, 09:52:06 AM »
Katanka, there is only one Jewish country and that is Israel. In its current border it is about 25,000 sqkm. The fact that many Jews live abroad doesn't make the land they live on Jewish. For example there are something like 30,000 Jews in Iran, but Iran is 100% muslim country. And America for that matter is a gentile country. The only country that can be Jewish is Israel and Judaism teaches us that Israel is our one and only country for us to have.
If we go your suggestion that then the Muslims look even more greedy.
Majority Muslim/Jewish Countries compared by Landsize (Jews 0.1%, Muslims 99.89%)
There are 37 countries with more than 70% Muslims but only Israel (sadly, Israel is not even 80% Jewish according to the wiki article).
It looks even more dire if you look at it that way, the point is still made though using my original data but I will upload the new data as well.
I know Jews are supposed to live in Israel, but I would honestly prefer to have Jews around than Muslims anywhere (no offense meant at religious Jews and I am not saying this to encourage Jews to not fight for or go to Israel).