Bill Passed in Knesset; 80 Members required to approve Golan or East Jerusalem

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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140780

It doesn't state it in the article but if you've been following the news the law requires a super majority in order for an evacuation of the Golan Heights or East Jerusalem. With the changing political scene in Israel I persionaly don't think that could ever happen.

Knesset Passes Referendum Law
 
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu and Elad Benari
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The Knesset passed on Monday evening the bill that would require a referendum before any land officially under Israeli sovereignty is surrendered, specifically the Golan Heights. 65 MKs voted in favor of the bill while 33 opposed it.

 

 
Labor ministers Ehud Barak, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, Isaac Herzog, and Avishay Braverman did not participate in the vote. However, two other members of the Labor Party, Minister Shalom Simchon and Deputy Minister Matan Vilnai were present and voted in favor of the referendum.

Prior to the vote, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's office rejected the idea that the referendum law would hurt the chances for peace negotiations between Israel and its neighbors.

"A referendum prevents an irresponsible agreement and on the other hand makes it possible to achieve a strong public backing for an agreement that will respond to Israel's national interests," said Netanyahu.

A recently-passed law already required an absolute majority of 61 Knesset Members before any of the Golan could be handed over to Syria, which has been demanding the entire Golan Heights.  A referendum would place a major obstacle if any government were able to win a majority in the Knesset for giving up the area and its rich water resources.

The referendum bill also covers United Jerusalem and the rest of Israel except for Judea and Samaria which officially are under military control.

Earlier on Monday Kadima leader Tzipi Livni made a U-turn on the bill the party once backed. The Kadima leader said her opposition to the Golan referendum bill is based on a principle that the Knesset, and not the general public, should have the final say on legislature. However, despite Kadima's decision to oppose the referendum bill, two of its members, MKs Otniel Schneller and Eli Aflalo, voted in favor of the referendum.

Consistent with her previous attacks on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Livni said that he is a ”weak prime minister. This has nothing to do with left or right, but with decision-making in this democracy. There is one referendum, and that's general elections, and the prime minister must say the same thing before and after the elections."

Her move to the left is surprising because Kadima formerly had encouraged the bill, which would create a major obstacle to any future effort to surrender any part of the Golan. However, her opposition is consistent with an almost automatic disagreement with every policy promoted by the prime minister and the Likud coalition.

MK Livni lost a bitter contest to form the current coalition two years ago. She has claimed she should be heading the government because her party won one more seat than the Likud in the winter 2009 elections. However, she was not able to win over Yisrael Beiteinu, headed by Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, and Shas, leaving her with minority support that did not enable her to form a coalition.

[Irish Zionist]

"Her move to the left is surprising"
I thought Tzipi was already leftwing?

But the fact this bill is even being considered is treason in itself. Israel should be making Bill's and Referendums on throwing the Arabs out of Israel, throwing out non Arab illegals, attacking Iran, encouraging more Jews to come home, building settlements all over the place and liberating stolen Jewish land that the Arabs occupy. This is just going to cause more misery and less security for The Chosen People.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

No law is going to protect Jerusalem or the Golan Heights. Any law that is passed can be easily undone.

Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were supposed to be under permanent Israeli sovereignty. The Knesset passed a law annexing all of Jerusalem in 1967. The Knesset also passed a law extending Israeli rule over the Golan in 1981. Have these laws prevented Israeli leaders from offering to surrender Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to the Arab Muslim Nazis? No. All laws and all promises made by Israeli politicians are completely worthless.

The only thing that will prevent Israeli suicide is massive resistance from the people.

[Secularbeliever]

בס''ד

No law is going to protect Jerusalem or the Golan Heights. Any law that is passed can be easily undone.

Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were supposed to be under permanent Israeli sovereignty. The Knesset passed a law annexing all of Jerusalem in 1967. The Knesset also passed a law extending Israeli rule over the Golan in 1981. Have these laws prevented Israeli leaders from offering to surrender Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to the Arab Muslim Nazis? No. All laws and all promises made by Israeli politicians are completely worthless.

The only thing that will prevent Israeli suicide is massive resistance from the people.

Somehow when a Jew makes a concession it is set in stone and the starting point for further concessions.  When Jews pass a law of strength it is a novelty that can be thrown out like yesterday's garbage.  I just don't get it.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

Pipi and the Likud passed this worthless law to enable them to continue to freeze Jewish building in Judea and Samaria. Because of this law, now everyone will say that we should not try to bring down the Likud government even as it destroys Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria, G-d forbid.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

No law is going to protect Jerusalem or the Golan Heights. Any law that is passed can be easily undone.

Jerusalem and the Golan Heights were supposed to be under permanent Israeli sovereignty. The Knesset passed a law annexing all of Jerusalem in 1967. The Knesset also passed a law extending Israeli rule over the Golan in 1981. Have these laws prevented Israeli leaders from offering to surrender Jerusalem and the Golan Heights to the Arab Muslim Nazis? No. All laws and all promises made by Israeli politicians are completely worthless.

The only thing that will prevent Israeli suicide is massive resistance from the people.

Somehow when a Jew makes a concession it is set in stone and the starting point for further concessions.  When Jews pass a law of strength it is a novelty that can be thrown out like yesterday's garbage.  I just don't get it.

בס''ד

You are correct. When faithless traitors are the rulers of the Jewish people, the rules of the game are always rigged against us.

The only answer is for us to replace these traitor leaders.

[Chaim Ben Pesach]

בס''ד

BTW, Ariel Sharon ys"v held a referendum of Likud members on the expulsion from Gush Katif. Sharon promised to abide by the results of the referendum. When Likud voters voted against the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from their homes and the handing over of Gaza to Muslim Nazi terrorists, Sharon simply ignored the referendum and did the expulsion anyway.

That's the way things work in Bolshevik Israel.

[cjd]

בס''ד

BTW, Ariel Sharon ys"v held a referendum of Likud members on the expulsion from Gush Katif. Sharon promised to abide by the results of the referendum. When Likud voters voted against the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from their homes and the handing over of Gaza to Muslim Nazi terrorists, Sharon simply ignored the referendum and did the expulsion anyway.

That's the way things work in Bolshevik Israel.

People will not wakeup to the danger of this until the damage is so bad that the situation becomes dangerous... Not that things in Israel are not dangerous enough to some extent already... Gush Katif was a disaster for Israel ...There has to be more to that picture then meets the eye... 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The cockroach Sharon was able to get away with this because he was able to get most Israelis behind the "disengagement" ethnic cleansing.

[Dr. Dan]

Giving up land should never be an option.

[Secularbeliever]

Giving up land should never be an option.

We have to get away from this idea that Israel has too much land and peace is achieved when we divest ourselves of the land.  Israel has ridiculously little land no matter how you measure it, whether in comparison to population, or compared to what was in the original Palestine Mandate.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Establishment Israeli leaders are exactly like Arab leaders.

[Dr. Dan]

If anything there should be a law that when an enemy attacks to take over the land permanently while kicking out the enemy inhabitants.

[RationalThought110]

Isn't the Likud similar to the Republican party in that there are some like Lindsey Graham who want to take the left-wing position on issues so the traitor media will like them; then there's someone like Jim Demint who has his principles and tries to oppose bad policies.


Aren't those in the Likud who side with Netanyahu similar to Lindsey Graham. Netanyahu is like Bush--campaigned as a conservative and then ruined his political party?


I heard an interview with a member of the Likud party who opposes Netanyahu.  Those who oppose him need to be encouraged to oppose him.

Is it possible for Netanyahu to be kicked out as the head of that party and for someone better to replace him?


If the Likud party were to become like the Republican party of 06 or 08. then someone such as Livni would become the PM and that would be worse. 

When Livni thought she was going to become PM, she did an interview in 09 and said that her top priority was going to be to work with Obama and to do whatever Obama wants her to do.


How is Livni still in office after she was so closely aligned with Olmert?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

The Israeli people will resist Hitler more vigorously than they will Lewinsky though.