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Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« on: November 04, 2011, 04:07:58 PM »
For the first time, he is suggesting this. (especially since he is seeing no chance of being a GOP contender).  I am thinking that Nazi Paul may be trying to sabotage the GOP since he has said that this is his last time he will ever run.

From recent polls, its a statistical tie between the frontrunners and Obama and his 2-3% would definitely change the outcome.




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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 04:09:14 PM »
It would be very convenient if Ron Pual kicked the bucket soon...
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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 05:20:35 PM »
It would be very convenient if Ron Pual kicked the bucket soon...


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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 08:55:46 PM »
It's good that this is the last time he'll ever run, but we will still have his son Rand to try to oppose. Also I hope he doesn't spoil things like Perot did before.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 11:56:29 PM »
It would be very convenient if Ron Pual kicked the bucket soon...


I agree with this.  Dividing the conservative vote at a time like this.  God help us!

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2011, 06:45:07 AM »
There was a line in one of the old Scar face movies where a coke laden Scar face admonishes someone he was about to kill that "Stupid people are dangerous" That line always comes to mind when I see Dr. Paul spouting his garbage... Any registered Republican that would do a thing to help the shvartza President stay in office another 4 years clearly is not dealing with a full deck...Whenever I see Dr.Paul an old 60's free love flower child comes to mind... This guy should be home tending his herb and pot garden and let America get some presidential representation that will bring about some recovery.
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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2011, 02:05:22 PM »
lol. i'm probably the only ron paul supporter on this forum. i think he represents what's best for america.
i understand that many other jews and pro-israel christians don't like him because he advocates cutting
all nations around the globe from american foreign aid, including israel.......but i don't see why i kahane
 supporter would have a problem with that. i don't. kahane himself advocated for israel breaking the chains
of american aid, which he felt held the jewish state back from having a freed and sovereign economy and
political structure. i see the establishment gop as little different from the democratic party. do i want obama
gone? yes. but i still support ron paul 100%. i'm tired of choosing the lesser of 2 evils, in regards to pro-globalist
establishment DC whores.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2011, 02:11:09 PM »
lol. i'm probably the only ron paul supporter on this forum. i think he represents what's best for america.
i understand that many other jews and pro-israel christians don't like him because he advocates cutting
all nations around the globe from american foreign aid, including israel

Chaim and a lot of people on this forum are against foreign aid to Israel, so that's not why we're against Ron Paul at all.

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 supporter would have a problem with that. i don't. kahane himself advocated for israel breaking the chains
of american aid, which he felt held the jewish state back from having a freed and sovereign economy and
political structure.

Foreign aid to Israel is a bad idea because it hurts Israel.

However we're against Paul not for that reason, but because he's an anti-Semite. He's also got weird ideas about 9/11 such as the idea that America caused it by being too friendly with Israel (America hasn't been friendly ENOUGH with Israel) and he thinks Iran is no threat to us and should have nuclear weapons.

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i see the establishment gop as little different from the democratic party. do i want obama
gone? yes. but i still support ron paul 100%. i'm tired of choosing the lesser of 2 evils, in regards to pro-globalist
establishment DC whores.

Ron Paul is not the answer to that. We really don't have any viable candidates that would support real right wing goals.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2011, 02:31:22 PM »
his foreign policy, which to me the term "foreign policy" means nothing more than "globalist initiative" is to
become basically isolationist and stay out of the world's business. i agree with this, but don't think it's going
to be possible. obviously america was attacked on 9-11 for placing troops on the arabian peninsula, which
is strictly forbidden by the qu'ran and the reason behind the al quaeda issued fatwa....so if he's made that
assertion concerning 9-11, he's dead wrong. i really don't know exactly what he said on that. i support him
because he's an anti-globalist, wants to destroy the federal reserve and abolish the IRS. i support him on
the american issues. anyone else is entitled to their opinion and i wasn't trying to change anyone's mind on
the man.....i was just voicing my own opinion on the man.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2011, 03:18:49 PM »
his foreign policy, which to me the term "foreign policy" means nothing more than "globalist initiative" is to
become basically isolationist and stay out of the world's business. i agree with this, but don't think it's going
to be possible. obviously america was attacked on 9-11 for placing troops on the arabian peninsula, which
is strictly forbidden by the qu'ran and the reason behind the al quaeda issued fatwa....so if he's made that
assertion concerning 9-11, he's dead wrong. i really don't know exactly what he said on that. i support him
because he's an anti-globalist, wants to destroy the federal reserve and abolish the IRS. i support him on
the american issues. anyone else is entitled to their opinion and i wasn't trying to change anyone's mind on
the man.....i was just voicing my own opinion on the man.
He wants to legalise all drugs meth, heroine, cocaine, and whatever other evil drugs that are out there, prostitution, all types of porn etc and says it's ok for Iran to build nuclear bombs.
He supports the Mosque at Ground Zero, blames America for 9/11, supports open borders, supports Hamas & Hezbollah.
This guy and his supporters are America haters and outright Nazi's.
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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2011, 03:44:10 PM »
prohibition only supports the islamic afghan opium trade and the mexican cartels.
and i personally have more faith in israel than to believe they need this corrupted
government to protect them against anyone. they have a generous nuclear arsenal
and the 4th largest standing army on the planet AND not to mention God on their side.
if anything, the so-called american support of israel has been pro-palestinian and
 actually hindered the jewish state FAR more than it has helped. what's herman
cain or mitt romney gonna do? pussyfoot around with more pointless peace talks
and procrastinate on the issue until iran DOES have nuclear arms? then what.
ron paul may not care if iran has nuclear arms.....that means he also isn't going to
care if israel pre-emptively blows their ass off the map. israel herself would be better
off with an america that stays the hell out of it, instead of continuously coddling
these UN ploys to quell the jewish state into absolute invalidity.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2011, 06:50:32 PM »
his foreign policy, which to me the term "foreign policy" means nothing more than "globalist initiative" is to
become basically isolationist and stay out of the world's business. i agree with this, but don't think it's going
to be possible.
obviously america was attacked on 9-11 for placing troops on the arabian peninsula, which
is strictly forbidden by the qu'ran and the reason behind the al quaeda issued fatwa....so if he's made that
assertion concerning 9-11, he's dead wrong. i really don't know exactly what he said on that. i support him
because he's an anti-globalist, wants to destroy the federal reserve and abolish the IRS. i support him on
the american issues. anyone else is entitled to their opinion and i wasn't trying to change anyone's mind on
the man.....i was just voicing my own opinion on the man.
How in the world does a country like the United States become isolationist? Even crazier is talk of abolishing the federal reserve... I would love to see peoples reaction when suggestions are put forward as how to actually do something like that are made.
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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2011, 06:56:33 PM »
Even crazier is talk of abolishing the federal reserve... I would love to see peoples reaction when suggestions are put forward as how to actually do something like that are made.

happened before. a very popular president tried to abolish it. the people themselves loved the idea.
a few marxists, one of them being lee harvey oswald, had different ideas on the matter.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 06:58:11 PM »
happened before. a very popular president tried to abolish it. the people themselves loved the idea.
a few marxists, one of them being lee harvey oswald, had different ideas on the matter.

How can you defend Ron Paul when he refused to return Don Black's donation?

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 07:04:11 PM »
How can you defend Ron Paul when he refused to return Don Black's donation?
the kkk supported john mccain. the kkk and the neo-nazis are going to support pretty
much any candidate opposing barack obama in the next election. why would i let who
they support affect my opinion on the matter? should i support barack obama because
the neo-nazis oppose him?

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2011, 07:12:03 PM »
You miss the point. When he was made aware of the fact that Don Black sent him money and just exactly who Don Black was, he refused to return the donation. Also Don Black gave him a lot of free advertising on Whorefront and Paul's campaign never had any problem with this or really said much of anything to disassociate. There is also the infamous picture of Ron Paul smiling happily next to Don Black and his son Derek Black at a meeting for those who donated. It's possible Paul didn't know who they were at the time, but considering Paul has demonstrated himself to be an anti-Semite I wouldn't be surprised if he knew all along exactly who those two were.



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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2011, 07:29:45 PM »
well like i said, i'm not here to change anyone else's mind on the man. i know i'm not the only jew
in america who supports him, either. i don't think he's an anti-semite...i just think he really doesn't
concern himself with this race card pulling liberal mindset which so many people here have been
manipulated by. kind of like the black community and their games. my wife is 1/2 black and my daughter
1/4 black.......but i have zero respect for the liberal ghetto black community and get constantly called
a "racist" because i won't hide it under the guise of "political correctness". i think ron paul doesn't
"bow down" to political race preferences and people are insulted by it.
anyway, i'm sure not trying to offend anyone. everyone can have their views on it and it won't bother me.
i just don't see how the gop candidates who will do nothing except appease the pro-palestinian
UN directives could ever be considered any better at all, in regards to the jewish people.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2011, 07:32:01 PM »
ron nazi paul running as an independent would be a disaster. if he gobbles up a piece of the conservative vote this would give barack hussein osama a better chance at winning.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2011, 07:42:03 PM »
well like i said, i'm not here to change anyone else's mind on the man. i know i'm not the only jew
in america who supports him, either. i don't think he's an anti-semite...i just think he really doesn't
concern himself with this race card pulling liberal mindset which so many people here have been
manipulated by.

Is that why he said the Marxist MLK was his hero?

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kind of like the black community and their games. my wife is 1/2 black and my daughter
1/4 black.......but i have zero respect for the liberal ghetto black community and get constantly called
a "racist" because i won't hide it under the guise of "political correctness". i think ron paul doesn't
"bow down" to political race preferences and people are insulted by it.

This is the last forum that will ask anyone to be politically correct on such issues. On the other hand we take anti-Jewish policies and anti-Semitism very seriously. I think it's sad that as a Jewish person you are supporting someone who will be working against your interest like that. That would be like me voting for Louis Farrakhan for president.

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anyway, i'm sure not trying to offend anyone. everyone can have their views on it and it won't bother me.

I'm not trying to be offensive to you either. There has to be a lot about Ron Paul that you're just not aware of.

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i just don't see how the gop candidates who will do nothing except appease the pro-palestinian
UN directives could ever be considered any better at all, in regards to the jewish people.


He's pro-Fakestinian
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/09/ron-paul-says-no-guarantee-un-would-recognize-palestinian-sovereignty/

This video is just jaw-droppingly anti-Israel:

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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2011, 08:02:54 PM »
wow. is what he said in that video true? did israel, through US funding, really empower HAMAS
to fight against arafat? and we DID empower al quaeda in afghanistan to fight the soviets. sorry,
but i'm getting the opposite reaction you did. it seems our "intervention" has hurt israel more than
it's helped. rabbi kahane himself would agree with that. admittedly, i don't like how he criticized
israel for using weapons in defense against hamas and their militants, though. i'll agree with you
on that much. no way israel should just lay down and die, even if our intervention did somewhat
help create the problem. i personally feel israel should be FAR more militarily aggressive than they are.
i also feel like the US is the leash holding them back.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2011, 08:25:19 PM »
Ron Paul has quite a bit of white supremacist support.  One of his top internet organizers in Tennessee is a man named Will Williams, who was the Southern coordinator for William Pierce's National Alliance Party/

http://adamholland.blogspot.com/2007/10/neo-nazi-support-for-ron-paul.html

The Lone Star Times has revealed that the Ron Paul campaign has received at least one contribution from neo-Nazi leader Don Black, who heads an internet-based group called StørmFrønt. (Read the Lone Star Times piece here)

I've been looking at neo-Nazi support for Ron Paul and found that there's quite a bit. It seems that one of Rep. Paul's top internet organizers in Tennessee is a neo-Nazi leader named Will Williams (aka "White Will"). Williams was the southern coordinator for William Pierce's National Alliance Party, the largest neo-Nazi party in the U.S. (for more on Williams' role in the National Alliance Pary see "Beyond A Dead Man’s Deeds: The National Alliance After William Pierce", page 7 [pdf], for general info on the National Alliance Party, read here) For those fortunate enough not to know, Pierce was the author of The Turner Diaries, the bible of American neo-Nazis and inspiration for this country's worst case of home-grown terrorism, the Oklahoma City bombing (read here).

Williams claims to have spent 30 years as a racist activist, and reportedly was personally responsible for providing security services to William Pierce. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, in 1993, Williams targeted children for recruitment to the National Alliance, authoring and distributing a racist comic book called "The Saga of ... WHITE WILL" which featured a violent attack by the hero against a Jewish youngster (read here). In 1998, Williams organized what he advertised as a "European Culture Festival" in Cleveland, featuring Irish and Slavic folk music and dancers. Attendees found themselves at a "white power" rally with speeches by William Pierce, Tom Metzger, founder of White Aryan Resistence ("WAR") and other racist leaders (read here). In December 2000, he spoke to a younger racist audience at a concert of racist rock bands organized by the National Alliance and Erich Gliebe's Resistance Records in California. (read here and here) [Gliebe, Pierce's personally chosen successor to lead the National Alliance, specializes in the recruitment of young people. He is perhaps the world's leading promoter of racist rock music and computer games, and is one of the chief promoters of the racist girl group Prussian Blue. (read here)] In March, 2001, Williams participated in a racist anti-immigration rally on the steps of the Hall County, Ga. courthouse, along with his friend and National Alliance Party associate, Chester Doles, listed variously as former Grand Dragon and Former Imperial Wizard of the KKK (read here and here and here) . In July, 2001, Williams participated in a violent rally at the German embassy in Washington, D.C. in support of German neo-Nazis (read here).

Williams now spends less time recruiting young people to be Nazis via comic books and rock music, and more time recruiting them to support Ron Paul via several meetup groups in Tennessee (read here), although he may be using these meetups to do both. He also posts anti-Semitic messages on Ron Paul message boards (read here), sometimes eliciting requests that he keep his neo-Nazi views quiet while continuing to organize for Paul, or in one case a joke concerning remaining "non-interventionist" with respect to William's ravings (read here). "White Will" Williams has also been actively campaigning for Ron Paul via racist websites as noted here, on the Huffington Post. (That piece, titled "To His Dismay, Ron Paul Becoming Magnet For White Supremacists", was a whitewash of the racist connections of the Paul campaign, ignoring Williams' role as an internet organizer for Paul.)

Other National Alliance Party leaders or former leaders are actively promoting the Ron Paul campaign on neo-Nazi websites. One such is Ron Doggett, currently of a group called Viginia EURO, a local branch of a national group started by David Duke (read here and here, photos here [CAUTION: Hate-group site]). (Pro-Paul forum postings by Dogget here [CAUTION: Hate-group site]) Here's what Doggett posted on one racist website:

    Getting his name out there and showing support is important in any campaign. Everyone should do their part, getting those yard signs like Glenn suggested is one small way to help. I've got a Ron Paul for Pres. sign for the world to see at the base of my flag pole, the pole has a 4x6 Confederate flag atop it. Ron Paul bumper stickers on our cars and I wear my Ron Paul t-shirt anytime we go out to places with a lot of folks. A good number of my neighbors who know about my politics have asked me about Paul and have said they'd vote for him in the primary know that they know he's a good one.

Directly above this post was one authored by a user calling himself "BurnJewBurn". This user's slogan, appearing on everything he posts, reads "nothing says lovin' like a jew in the oven".

For those with the stomach to read more of that sort of material, here, with my warning, is the "Ron Paul Internet Army" forum of a neo-Nazi website to which Doggett posts: [LINK TO HATE-GROUP WEBSITE. CAUTION.]

Racist podcaster Hal Turner has recently taken a break from issuing death threats to politicians in order to endorse Ron Paul. And then there's David Duke himself, who's devoted webpage after webpage to material supportive of the Paul campaign, without formally endorsing Paul. You could say that's soft money from the hard right.

The Ron Paul campaign disavows racism, of course, but for some reason, they can't keep the racists away. Maybe it has something to do with Rep. Paul's seeming opposition to all federal civil rights laws. Or his vote against providing funding to re-open investigations of murdered of civil rights workers. His racist comments about fleet-footed black muggers (or, as Paul has claimed, the comments he first defended, then took several years to realize he hadn't made and disavowed) haven't hurt, nor has his association with the John Birch Society, acceptance of support from the Christian Identity movement and advocacy for conspiracy theories. His isolationism, anti-immigrant rhetoric, and disdain for Israel and its supporters just might help explain his appeal to racists.

Maybe the racists' support for Paul has something to do with his advocacy of states' rights, which he frequently mischaracterizes as individual rights. He apparently appeals to a constituency which has forgotten the horror of what states' rights meant to non-white individuals in many states. As should be clear by now, Paul also appeals to some who DO remember and support a return to segregation and the other forms of racial oppression justified in the name of states' rights.

Let's remember that Rep. Paul voted against renewing the Voting Rights Act. He had the nerve to state in a speech to Congress that relations between the races have improved despite, not because of, civil rights laws. (read here) He also made the following statement in a speech he gave to Congress in opposition of a bill to commemorate the 1964 Civil Rights Act:


    "(T)he forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty...The Civil Rights Act of 1964 gave the federal government unprecedented power over the hiring, employee relations, and customer service practices of every business in the country. The result was a massive violation of the rights of private property and contract, which are the bedrocks of free society. The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties."

In other words, Paul values the right to discriminate more than the right not be discriminated against. What a sorry state of affairs that this disgraceful conduct can still occur in our Congress over forty years after the first major civil rights legislation passed. This outrage is compounded when Rep. Paul portrays himself as a champion of the Constitution, and this message is promoted by the ignorant and ignored by the indifferent.

So while I blame the racists and neo-Nazis for being who they are, I am more concerned about those who should know the history of civil rights but still allow Paul to spread his deceptions. He does not belong among the top candidates in a major party and his candidacy gives a boost to an otherwise declining racist movement in this country.

UPDATE (4/2/2010):  Going back through this piece, I've discovered that the Ron Paul campaign has deleted several of the Meetup webpages linked to here, and made others private and accessible only with permission of the campaign.  As time permits, I will search for archived versions of these webpages and replace the links to the originals with links to the archived versions.  Thanks for your patience..

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2011, 08:39:57 PM »
Wait, there's even more.  Paul was the keynote speaker at the 50th anniversary celebration of the John Birch Society, which has spawned many neo-Nazis.  Also, an incarcerated neo Nazi named Bill White put out a statement about Ron Paul being a white supremacist.

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/02/ron-paul-is-a-white-supremacist/

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The John Birch society holds McCarthy as a hero and believes that “liberal” politicians and are part of a “communist” conspiracy known as “Insiders”. They opposed the Civil Rights movement and Civil Rights legislation (and still do), called Martin Luther King a radical socialist threat (and still do), praised apartheid and believe that Nelson Mandela was “a communist terrorist thug” and campaigned for segregationist Presidential candidate George Wallace.

What is most scary about the John Birch Society, is that it seems to be a breeding ground for Neo-Nazis. Several members of the intellectual wing of the White Nationalist Neo-Nazi movement come directly from the John Birch society.

One of the founders of the John Birch Society was Revilo P. Oliver, who went on to found the white nationalist Neo-Nazi organization, The National Alliance which named Hitler “the greatest man of our era.”

Another member of the John Birch society was William Pierce, also a founder of the National Alliance, who also wrote “The Turner Diaries.” “The Turner Diaries” is credited with inspiring Timothy McVeigh to bomb the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City, Killing 168 people.

Other prominent members of the John Birch society, who played large roles in the Neo-Nazi movement, include Tom Metzger, who was a Grand Dragon of the KKK and Kevin Strom, the former managing director of National Vanguard, (another prominent white supremacist organization) who was convicted for child pornography.

The Southern Poverty Leadership Committee claims the John Birch society is responsible for a lot of the Patriot movement “New World Order,” anti-government ideologies that spread to militias and Neo-Nazis.

Ron Paul was the keynote speaker for the John Birch Society’s 50th Anniversary and spoke about the strong connection he had to the society and their ideologies.

   
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The John Birch Society is a great patriotic organization featuring an educational program solidly based on constitutional principles. I congratulate the Society in this, its 50th year. I wish them continued success and endorse their untiring efforts to foster ‘less government, more responsibility … and with God’s help … a better world.’”

    I am delighted to help celebrate this birthday.” “I’m sure there are people in this room who probably helped me in that campaign, because I know that so many of you have over the years.”

    continue what you have been doing…..I come with a positive message and congratulations to you for all you have done. Congratulations and thank you very much for having me tonight.
The John Birch society had a big role in Paul’s “Rally For The Republic” in where their leader spoke and they distributed anti “New World Order” materials.

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A now incarcerated Neo-Nazi by the name of Bill White put out a statement that Ron Paul was a man with Neo-Nazi views, but he hid them because of his political position.

    I have kept quiet about the Ron Paul campaign for a while, because I didn’t see any need to say anything that would cause any trouble. However, reading the latest release from his campaign spokesman, I am compelled to tell the truth about Ron Paul’s extensive involvement in white nationalism.

   
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Both Congressman Paul and his aides regularly meet with members of the StørmFrønt set, American Renaissance, the Institute for Historic Review, and others at the Tara Thai restaurant in Arlington, Virginia, usually on Wednesdays. This is part of a dinner that was originally organized by Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis and Joe Sobran, and has since been mostly taken over by the Council of Conservative Citizens.

    I have attended these dinners, seen Paul and his aides there, and been invited to his offices in Washington to discuss policy.

    For his spokesman to call white racialism a “small ideology” and claim white activists are “wasting their money” trying to influence Paul is ridiculous. Paul is a white nationalist of the StørmFrønt type who has always kept his racial views and his views about world Judaism quiet because of his political position.

    I don’t know that it is necessarily good for Paul to “expose” this. However, he really is someone with extensive ties to white nationalism and for him to deny that in the belief he will be more respectable by denying it is outrageous — and I hate seeing people in the press who denounce racialism merely because they think it is not fashionable.

    Bill White, Commander
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Offline briann

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2011, 09:33:59 PM »
We are NOT against Paul because he is against foreign aid.  NOT AT ALL.   We think thats fine.

We are against him because he is wacko and has NO PROBLEM with Iran getting Nukes.

Why would ANY sane person think its a good idea for Iran to get Nukes?????????

Rush Limbaugh thinks he is a nutjob too, and a useful idiot for the Democratic party.



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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2011, 09:55:31 PM »
happened before. a very popular president tried to abolish it. the people themselves loved the idea.
a few marxists, one of them being lee harvey oswald, had different ideas on the matter.

Lol, you paultard cultists are all the same.

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Re: Your opinion on R. Paul running as an independant
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2011, 11:10:21 PM »
Lol, you paultard cultists are all the same.
lol. ah, that's alright. i'm sure not going to be ashamed in not walking lockstep with everything you believe.
i just simply don't feel threatened enough in life to see nazis around every corner i turn.