Hassidim supporting Ahmadinejad?

[Yerusha]

Persia is one of the nations in the Gog attack (Yechezkel 38), & the Zohar predicted that at that time many Jews would break rank and actually ally themselves with Gog/Persia.

Here we see this literally fulfilled!

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

This is an old video just titled as new. All propaganda purposes. Anyway its not "Hassidim" they don't even claim to be. This thread needs to go and if you continue I believe you should be blocked.

[muman613]

This is an old video just titled as new. All propaganda purposes. Anyway its not "Hassidim" they don't even claim to be. This thread needs to go and if you continue I believe you should be blocked.

Yes I object to calling them Chassidim as they do not represent the majority of Chassidic Jewery, only a small fraction of them. Specifically these are the cursed NK... They give all Chassidic Jewish groups a bad name because of their sick behavior.

[angryChineseKahanist]

NK??

[Aces High]

Those traitor Jews are ugly, on the inside and the outside.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

These Nazurei Karta freaks are not real Jews.

[angryChineseKahanist]

this was likely planned.
why would ahma meet with the yahud?

[Tag-MehirTzedek]

this was likely planned.
why would ahma meet with the yahud?

 Propaganda purposes.

[briann]

Are they the ones that went to the Holocaust Denial Museum and Kissed The Ahmadinejad?

[Yerusha]

Rav Kahane frequently quoted the Gemara about how the Kohen Gadol Shevna was prepared to go against King Chizkiya and surrender Jerusalem to Sancherev on grounds of "pikuach nefesh" - Halachic saving of life.

Normally pikuach nefesh is the rule - except when it comes to the territorial integrity of Eretz Yisrael. Here the Halacha is the opposite: giving up parts of Israel to non-Jews results in "sakonos nefoshos" - risk of mortal danger to the inhabitants. This aside from the chillul Hashem which is so great that although it's easier said than done, to quote the dying words of Trumpeldor - טוב למות בעד ארצינו - "It's good to die for our land!"

Unfortunately, even after the demonstrable disaster of Oslo over the last 20 years, most Haredim despite living in mighty Israel continue to have the Golus attitude of "Bribe the goy and live shtillik". Although not as treasonous or traitorous as Neturei Karta and some Satmar, in principle most still support giving away chunks of the land to the Arabs and even Iranians if it comes with a guarantee that they will be left alone to live placidly in their gans, yeshivas, kollels, kosher eateries, charity funds, seminaries and neighborhoods. They have no other ambition.

[muman613]

Rav Kahane frequently quoted the Gemara about how the Kohen Gadol Shevna was prepared to go against King Chizkiya and surrender Jerusalem to Sancherev on grounds of "pikuach nefesh" - Halachic saving of life.

Normally pikuach nefesh is the rule - except when it comes to the territorial integrity of Eretz Yisrael. Here the Halacha is the opposite: giving up parts of Israel to non-Jews results in "sakonos nefoshos" - risk of mortal danger to the inhabitants. This aside from the chillul Hashem which is so great that although it's easier said than done, to quote the dying words of Trumpeldor - טוב למות בעד ארצינו - "It's good to die for our land!"

Unfortunately, even after the demonstrable disaster of Oslo over the last 20 years, most Haredim despite living in mighty Israel continue to have the Golus attitude of "Bribe the goy and live shtillik". Although not as treasonous or traitorous as Neturei Karta and some Satmar, in principle most still support giving away chunks of the land to the Arabs and even Iranians if it comes with a guarantee that they will be left alone to live placidly in their gans, yeshivas, kollels, kosher eateries, charity funds, seminaries and neighborhoods. They have no other ambition.

On what do you base your statement 'most Haredim despite...'? Is this based on personal experience or on what you have read or heard? No doubt I agree that it is completely pasul to give away any of the Jewish land but I don't believe that most Haredim would rather give the land away. I could be wrong, but based on your attempt to paint all Chassidim as anti-Zionist, I think you are just engaging in sinat chinam.

[Yerusha]

Well judging by the support for Oslo in 1993 of Rabbis Eliezer Shach (DEgel HaToarh), Ovadia Yosef (Shas), Israeli Chief Rabbis Lau and Bakshi-Doron, the Belzer Rebbe, Satmar Rebbe, Aryeh Deri, Norman Lamm (head of Yesivah University NY), Cyril Harris (Chief Rabbi S.Africa), Noach Weinberg (Aish HaTorah), Berel Wein, Jonathan Rosenblum, Shlomo Riskin, Menachem Porush (Aguda), Michael Melchior, Akiva Tatz, Nathan Lopes Cardozo, Ze'ev Leff, Naftali Elzas, UK Chief Rabbis Jonathan Sacks and Lord Jakobovits etc etc, then if their disciples are true to their leaders and unless these leaders have subsequently publicly recanted or disavowed Oslo, one has to assume that they still support it, at least in principle. If Shas, Aguda and Degel, who represent about 80% of the Haredim, had not voted for Oslo it would never have passed.