My thoughts on Scotch and white "nationalists".

[MasterWolf1]

Thats a black guy with a full nose 

[cosmokramer]

Like I said before, when you start tolerating vicious racist opinions you stray away from being righteous and you attract people who aren't righteous like white nationalists. I said that this board was beginning to look like a WN board and now we see it's happening.

You "Affirmative Action GENIUSES" think you're so RIGHTEOUS !
Yet when a BLACK proclaims their proud of their heritage you Flaming LIBERALS acclaim them !
I must wonder how many of you are indeed BLACK GHETTO Sympathizers ! 

Um, none of us?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

He looks Indian to me too. He's probably an Indian Muslim or a Pakistani or Tamil Muslim Nazi.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Um, none of us?

Let's see how he answers my question. If he says none, then I do agree banning might be a logical step.

[Kananga]

HE'S INDIAN FROM INDIA ,I THINK

I read somewhere a while back that there is a movement among the Dravidians to reclaim the swastika from the Neo-Nazis, and the other hate groups who use it as their symbol.

[Joe Schmo]

He's a black Indian.  The girl behind him looks nice. 

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Yeah, but the Dravidians (Tamils and related ethnicities) ARE Nazis who hate the Jews and admire Hitler. I don't buy it that they intend the swastika as a religious symbol.

[Kananga]

Really?  I would suspect that they may have been hostile to Christians since they were colonized by Britain.  I'd also think that it's safe to say that the swastika symbol has been a part of their culture way before the Dravidian people had ever come in contact with Europeans, or Jews for that matter. 

There is similar sentiment among blacks about the confederate flag you know.  Many Southerners maintain that the confederate flag has nothing to do with white supremacy, and that the flag had been hijacked by the KKK.  I believe it's meaning has been attributed to the ideas like southern values, the commom man taking a stand against government tyranny, and stuff like that.

[ScotcH]

Scotch, do you believe that some blacks are righteous people and do not hate whites?

I believe those who have been truly touched by the hand of the "Great White Father" and stay away from his woman are DECENT, haven't yet come across though !

How about the effigy of Uncle Tom, if he exists I would consider him to be Righteous !

[Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)]

Seriously, "White Nationalists are stupid" what do you know. I'm a Serb nationalist. I'm white too, so that means that I'm stupid as well?

You can't say all. THERE are always different people in every political, ethnic and religious groups.

What you can do is hang those that are evil,stupid,racist etc. out to dry. Show everyone who they are but not blame everyone.

[Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac)]

Yeah, but the Dravidians (Tamils and related ethnicities) ARE Nazis who hate the Jews and admire Hitler. I don't buy it that they intend the swastika as a religious symbol.

the swastika used by religious groups looks like this



and this is the nazi one.




huge difference

[nessuno]

He's a black Indian.  The girl behind him looks nice. 

- She does look pretty from a distance!
Anyone who would wear that shirt is an idiot - black or white.  What was the point of posting the picture?  I'm just curious.  We all know there are idiots of every color.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Scotch, do you believe that some blacks are righteous people and do not hate whites?

I believe those who have been truly touched by the hand of the "Great White Father" and stay away from his woman are DECENT, haven't yet come across though !

How about the effigy of Uncle Tom, if he exists I would consider him to be Righteous !

So you think it is wrong if a righteous, right-wing black person marries a white person?

[Kananga]

Yeah, but the Dravidians (Tamils and related ethnicities) ARE Nazis who hate the Jews and admire Hitler. I don't buy it that they intend the swastika as a religious symbol.

the swastika used by religious groups looks like this



and this is the nazi one.




huge difference

True.  If those religous groups are truly righteous people, you'd think that they would appropriate a version that doesn't resemble the white supremist swastika, which in this age is considered a universal sign of racial hatred.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Well, didn't I just say that the Tamils ARE Jew-hating Muslim Nazis?

Why wouldn't they choose the exact National Socialist German Workers' Party symbol?

[Ehud]

Seriously, "White Nationalists are stupid" what do you know. I'm a Serb nationalist. I'm white too, so that means that I'm stupid as well?

You can't say all. THERE are always different people in every political, ethnic and religious groups.

What you can do is hang those that are evil,stupid,racist etc. out to dry. Show everyone who they are but not blame everyone.

You have to understand who "White Nationalists" are Serbian Cetnik.  Chaim Fan was referring to "White Nationalists" not nationalists who are white.  "White Nationalists" is a term that can almost be equated with "Neo-Nazi."  White Nationalists is a name for a group of Neo-Nazis who don't like that term so they call themselves White Nationalists but they are basically the same as neo-Nazis they all want to annihilate Jews and they all worship Hitler.  Of course Chaim Fan isn't condemning nationalists who are white.  There are millions of fantastic Americans, Serbs, Israelis and people of many countries who are great "white nationalists" (notice the lower case) I just wanted to clear that up Serbian Cetnik, when you hear the term White Nationalists in the future you'll know who we are talking about.

[Kananga]

I was just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, since I've always known Indians to be very righteous and authentic people.  I didn't think Dravidians were any different.

Other than the swastika, what is it that the Dravidian people have done to Jews that makes you believe that they hate them?

[Dexter]

Well, didn't I just say that the Tamils ARE Jew-hating Muslim Nazis?

Why wouldn't they choose the exact National Socialist German Workers' Party symbol?

They didnt, its the nazi who picked THIER symbole.

[WhiteHawk]

Yeah, but the Dravidians (Tamils and related ethnicities) ARE Nazis who hate the Jews and admire Hitler. I don't buy it that they intend the swastika as a religious symbol.

The Dravidians are f'en morons then. The Europeans used that symbol before indians ever did, the only reason the dravidian have it is becuase of the indo-european invasion. Even Natives of America such as Hopi used the symbol.


[quote[They didnt, its the nazi who picked THIER symbole.[/quote]

Back there up. WHERES THE EVIDENCE FOR THAT? Germans used the symbol before the indians.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

I was just trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, since I've always known Indians to be very righteous and authentic people.  I didn't think Dravidians were any different.

Other than the swastika, what is it that the Dravidian people have done to Jews that makes you believe that they hate them?

They are racially militant, hate northern Indians (Hindus), are very pro-Muslim, and many of them actually are Muslims.

Look up the "Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam".

[MarZutra]

What the Hell is a "White Nationalist" considering "White" people make up many different cultures and nations?  It is ok to have pride and respect for ones heritage, ethnicity, culture and being just as it is perfectly acceptable for a Black to have the same respect.  I've gone away for a few months and the forum seem to change into some sort of a racial Nazite discussion group... 

There are many different religions that use the Swastika as religous symbol.  Doesn't necessarily mean Jew hatred.  Doesn't the Hindus use the Swastika?  India has never known anti-semitism to my knowledge....if they had, it is only as of recent history and probably the injections of Islam, Protocols, Mein Kempf and the Socialist rot....  my two cents...

[Sarah]

Okay guys, sit down. This one ain't gonna go over too well with you all.

Alright, there recently has been a furor over Scotch's use of the German slogan "Sieg" and his post calling for the lynching of unspecified blacks. Most of JTF's membership has come down harshly against him, and has even called for his banning. I want to let it be known on no uncertain terms that I do not agree.

At the risk of hauteur and coming off as an egotist, I honestly feel I have developed a pretty keen online sense of determining who is and is not a Nazi. I haven't gotten that evil vibe from any of Scotch's posts. He reminds me of Sarah when she first came here, or perhaps Tonycali. He seems like a teenage kid who is eager to find a website that more or less shares his views, which certainly must be despised in all his social circles. He described himself as a "white Germanic nationalist" or something to that effect, but definitely not a Nazi, and emphasized that his goal was to stop terrorist scum from destroying Western civilization. If he indeed means that he is not an anti-Semite (and as far as I know he has no anti-Semitic posts), I don't see how being a "Germanic nationalist" is worse than being a Serbian nationalist, British nationalist, Hindu nationalist, etc. He may well simply mean that he wants to defend German people from Islamic conquest and genocide. I do happen to believe that the vast majority of Teutonic people ARE the scum of the earth, but who am I to say that he is wrong for having pride in his heritage if he means nothing against the Jews?

The vast majority of "white nationalists" ARE satanic Nazi ghouls, but, if one exists who is not, we are making a big mistake by jumping all over him.

The next big question is what he meant when he advocated the lynching of blacks: did he mean that all blacks deserve to die just because of their race, or that he wants to lynch the evil, racist, criminal blacks? He did not really indicate either way. If he intended to mean the former, then I will point out that this is flat-out evil and disgusting and that he needs to repent of this wickedness in his heart and leave the forum. If Scotch just wants wicked blacks to be killed, though, I don't see why what he said is particularly shocking or bad. Maybe he is just outraged from seeing so much black violence get hushed-up by the media and let his temper flow. I know I've done that many, many times.

Ask yourselves realistically: how many of you all would be upset to see Farrakhan or Jesse Jackson get lynched?

I must admit that I feel a personal connection to this issue right now owing to my semi-recent experience on the forum regarding some unwise comments I made. I said that terrorism would stop in Gaza if the Muslim Nazi women were raped as judgment for their actions, gave a Bible verse that indirectly could be taken to support this, and was temporarily banned for it. I did not at all mean to say that we should all become rapists or pursue this as a serious solution to terrorism--merely to point out that in G-d's eyes, satanic Nazis, including their women, are not immune to any form of judgment, however horrible and torturous. Naturally, I see that such a suggestion, however flippant and informal, was foolish, and should have never been said. Thus, I think that we should tell the same thing to Scotch before we flame him and call him a Nazi.

I don't know what is in Scotch's heart. I don't know what he really thinks of all of us. I don't know what he thinks of me. As a Mexican, would he, as a white nationalist, have any interest in what I say or am doing? As a JTF member speaking of a fellow JTF member, I would like to say the answer is yes. I want to believe that he knows the difference between right and wrong and can tell evil and normal people of all backgrounds. Everybody knows that that is what JTF has always stood for and I would like to think Scotch does as well. For that reason alone, I ask that we refrain from rushing to judgment on his case.

So in closing, I ask that we just ask him to refrain from making such statements and then give him another chance here.

Chaimfan

If scotch, gives a good response to the further questions you asked him after the first, then i will remove my posts about him.

[Kananga]

Yeah, but the Dravidians (Tamils and related ethnicities) ARE Nazis who hate the Jews and admire Hitler. I don't buy it that they intend the swastika as a religious symbol.

The Dravidians are f'en morons then. The Europeans used that symbol before indians ever did, the only reason the dravidian have it is becuase of the indo-european invasion. Even Natives of America such as Hopi used the symbol.

They didnt, its the nazi who picked THIER symbole.

Back there up. WHERES THE EVIDENCE FOR THAT? Germans used the symbol before the indians.

The swastika in Indian culture dates back to 5000 BCE.  Hilter probably appropriated the swastika the same time as the term "Aryan", which he stole from Indians too.

[WhiteHawk]

no offence but your about to get schooled

The basque pre indo european people used the swastika, these are people WITH NO CONNECTIONS TO ANCIENT INDIA WHATSO-FRIGGIN-EVER.

The term aryan is sanskrit in india means noble. it comes from when the aryan indo european invaded india and were called noble ones. Iran is named after the aryans. Iran, land of aryans. natives of south and north america have used the swastika as well, predating the dravidian barbarians who probably ARE NAZIS.

is there any use for the swastika in modern day age? NO! but these dravidians are fighting to use it again. you would think this is suspicious as CF says.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

WhiteHawk, what exactly do you believe? What is your background? I am not trying to attack--I just want to learn more about you.

In any case, it is absolutely true that Dravidians have no linguistic, ethnic, or racial connection to the rest of India, and are a dangerous group of Muslim or pro-Muslim separatists who hate everybody else around them. The Dravidians to the rest of the Indian subcontinent are what Albanians are to Europe.