Israel.. Strictest Gun Control in Western World.. No Guns For Citizens

[Every Jew AK47]

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It is great that Israel has armed security at schools and that soldiers patrol the street, but the fact that a law-abiding Jewish citizen of Israel is not allowed to own guns to protect himself and his family angers me a lot.  People ask why I do not make aliyah and this is one of the biggest reasons.  Despite the fact that Arabs can easily acquire guns in Israel, through terrorist networks, etc, Jewish people have no such option.  Jewish citizens must rely on the law, which makes it almost impossible for any Jew who has immigrated to Israel from USA to acquire.  Therefore, I am at the mercy of finding someone to help me, when some heavily armed Bedouin or Arab breaks into my house with an AK-47 and terrorizes me and my family and steals all my belongings. 

Israel is suppose to be a nation where Jews are free!  However, it seems the corrupt government in Israel seeks to protect itself and yet overlooks the safety of its own people. For example, the Israeli government refuse to wipe out Hamas despite the fact they were launching rockets into crowded urban areas in Israel, which resulted in the death and injury of women and children.

Sadly, I have more freedom and rights in USA as of right now, then in my own ancestral homeland.   There is no place in the USA where I am not allowed to pray, but in Israel I am not even allowed to pray at one of the most holy of all Jewish sites, The Temple Mount.  Sadly, the Israeli government protects the Muslims and will arrest "The Juden" who go and pray at this holy site, now devoted to the Islamic religion, which seeks to exterminate the Jewish religion.

I refuse to live in a nation surrounded by so many hostile threats, where I am not allowed the right to keep and bear arms.  I look forward to the day when a Kahanist leader takes control of Israel and will give all Jewish citizens their G-d given rights to defend themselves and their families.

I am not willing to give up my guns, my freedom so I can be helpless and weak in a country that is home to over 1,000,000 Islamic Jew-haters, the country called Israel.  This is not to mention how Israel is now surrounded by the Islamic theocracy of Mitzraim (Egypt) and all the other Islamo-terrorist nations. 

Yariv, owner of the Lahav weapon shop in Tel Aviv, told Israeli Army radio: "A very little amount of people buy private guns, since the Israeli citizen knows in advance that his chances to buy and own a gun amounts to zero.

THis is disgusting to me.  Every Arab man can go buy a gun for his family, but somehow every Jewish man is inferior to his government and cannot be trusted with guns.  I know another reason why Israeli government may not want Jews to have guns.  Considering, that there has been Israeli soldiers ordered to throw Jews out of their homes and demolish them so that they can be given to Arabs.  Well, just as with the 2nd Amendment in the USA, the citizens can stand up and fight a totalitarian regime who would make such an attempt and tyranny.    My feelings is the Israeli government doesn't always have the best intention for its people, but rather seeks to kiss up to its European and Obamish masters.

My relatives who were massacred in Belarus by the Nazis were also not allowed to own guns, by order of the Czar and then the Communists.  They were systematically exterminated by Nazi government troops.  Considering, the type of threat Israel and Jewish people are under every day, how can the Israeli government deny Israeli citizens their right to keep and bear arms?   It is wrong..   I am hoping a new government will come that will grant all Jewish people their freedoms.

[Zelhar]

Virtually all the Arabs have guns, and they control the thriving black market for arms. The Jewish criminals buy their guns from Arab dealers. The police hardly lifts a finger to prevent the hording of vast amounts of weapons by the Arabs. The law only applies to the law abiding Jews.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

the Judeo Nazi criminals also buy their weapons from the police and from soldiers... this is also the main source from which the Arabs got theirs

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Virtually all the Arabs have guns, and they control the thriving black market for arms. The Jewish criminals buy their guns from Arab dealers. The police hardly lifts a finger to prevent the hording of vast amounts of weapons by the Arabs. The law only applies to the law abiding Jews.

All gun laws only apply to the law-abiding.

[ChabadKahanist]

Actually if you live in territories you can own a gun,my son in law & most of his friends walk around with guns.
Only with in the so called "green line" is it hard to get a gun.

[IsraeliGovtAreKapos]

Actually if you live in territories you can own a gun,my son in law & most of his friends walk around with guns.
Only with in the so called "green line" is it hard to get a gun.

Most guns were stolen by the Israeli regime before the Gaza expulsion and were never returned. Yitzchak Imas had his pistol stolen by the regime just 2 weeks before he was murdered by Fatah.

[בַּחַמַל]

MY father fought for Tzahal in the Six Days War and was later a Lieutenant in the Yom Kippur War...  He says that back then, he could have easily walked away with his Uzi or rifle and no one would have known any better.  Later, in the mid 90s, as he was wandering through his old neighborhood in Tel Aviv, a Chiloni saw him with his beard and yelled at him "Why don't you serve your time in the army!!?"

Gun control, especially in Israel is an absurd and suicidal policy by the Left...  They are delusional if they believe Fabian Socialism will work in Israel...  I disagree with Chaim that Charedim who "fake" should be forced to enlist in Tzahal...  Tzahal is becoming nothing more than an excuse for de-armament of Israeli citizens.  There hasn't been a single threat to Israel in the past 30 years that couldn't have been solved with less than 100 soldiers and perhaps several aircraft.  All Haredim should be immediately exempted from Tzahal but must be forced under law to be trained with and posses firearms, and to form militias.

[Sveta]

MY father fought for Tzahal in the Six Days War and was later a Lieutenant in the Yom Kippur War...  He says that back then, he could have easily walked away with his Uzi or rifle and no one would have known any better.  Later, in the mid 90s, as he was wandering through his old neighborhood in Tel Aviv, a Chiloni saw him with his beard and yelled at him "Why don't you serve your time in the army!!?"

Gun control, especially in Israel is an absurd and suicidal policy by the Left...  They are delusional if they believe Fabian Socialism will work in Israel...  I disagree with Chaim that Charedim who "fake" should be forced to enlist in Tzahal...  Tzahal is becoming nothing more than an excuse for de-armament of Israeli citizens.  There hasn't been a single threat to Israel in the past 30 years that couldn't have been solved with less than 100 soldiers and perhaps several aircraft.  All Haredim should be immediately exempted from Tzahal but must be forced under law to be trained with and posses firearms, and to form militias.

I admire your father's service.
I also do agree in excusing Haredim from service but trained in fighting. Good idea. I feel that the Haredim already provide much protection to Israel through Torah study and Mitzvot. The seculars who serve may add physical protection (although religious Jews serve as well). But I can't believe how easily people forget the spiritual battle. The spiritual service and protection that the Haredim provide.
The secular soldiers do their time in the military, then go get intermarried and break shabbat. The Haredim are yelled at for not serving but spend most of the day studying and keeping the Mitzvot.

[Every Jew AK47]

Bachamal, Much respect to your abba serving in the Tzahal fighting for Israel's freedom and existence!  And, to the man who insulted him for having a beard, a good hard slap on both cheeks if I ever saw him, POS!   Why do so many new-age Jews forget that having a beard is a good thing, not a bad thing!  It's like anything to do with the Jewish religion is chastised.

The Charedim are an important asset to reviving Israel's currently dissolving spiritual base.  Please nobody get mad, but I am very distraught about the g_dlessness and Europeanized/Atheistic new agey culture in Israel right now.  From gay pride parades in Yerushalayim to rogue politicians ordering Jewish families expelled from their homes.  Isn't it funny so close to election time that Netanyahu is now approving settlements.  Perhaps, same settlements he will one day bulldoze., orders of Hussein Obama?    I am very depressed about situation in Israel and I will not make aliyah until it changes.  Also, as long as the IDF participates in throwing Jews out of their home or arresting Jews for praying in the holy places now reserved for the Islamofacists, I will not be part of that military.  I rather not spend the rest of my life rotting in Israeli prisons for refusing to throw Jews out of there home.  No, I will not do as Adolf Eichmann and follow such tyrannical orders against my own people, even!

Sad to say, but things are looking grim.  I am thinking of wanting to encourage Jews to move away from all the evils of society and perhaps starting a fortified mountain community in one of the American free-states, such as Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, etc.    Why do Jews always congregate in small little areas surrounded by enemies and allow themselves to be disarmed?

Tel Aviv, New York City, Chicago are all cities where Jews are not allowed to own guns (Chicago, perhaps best of the three) and have the highest number of Jewish populations in the world. 

Sad that Eretz Yisrael is runned by criminal, fascist, self-hating European-puppets.  I hope one day these traitors can get the reward they deserve.  Israel needs a serious revolution!  First, from the criminals in Israel's own government.  Then, Israel's enemies need to be crushed!  This includes Iran, Mitzraim , Syria and Lebanon.   Once these pigs are humbled and conquered , the Saudis and the rest of the jihadi sand scum will better kiss up or prepare for their imminent demise. 

Chabad Kahanist.. What is the green zone?  Do you mean the Settlements?  Every Jew should have the right to own and carry guns anywhere they please!  Sorry, I trust my life more in my own hands, then depending on some 18 year old girl who is a few minutes away to come running to my rescue when seconds count.  Making Aliyah means I have to give up my guns or be forced to live in a certain small area in a country that already is very small. 


In the end, Rabbi Kahane was wise..  Every Jew Must Be Armed!   Maybe, he took it from Thomas Jefferson, a man I wish could be resurrected and help rewrite Israel's Constitution.

[ChabadKahanist]

Bachamal, Much respect to your abba serving in the Tzahal fighting for Israel's freedom and existence!  And, to the man who insulted him for having a beard, a good hard slap on both cheeks if I ever saw him, POS!   Why do so many new-age Jews forget that having a beard is a good thing, not a bad thing!  It's like anything to do with the Jewish religion is chastised.

The Charedim are an important asset to reviving Israel's currently dissolving spiritual base.  Please nobody get mad, but I am very distraught about the g_dlessness and Europeanized/Atheistic new agey culture in Israel right now.  From gay pride parades in Yerushalayim to rogue politicians ordering Jewish families expelled from their homes.  Isn't it funny so close to election time that Netanyahu is now approving settlements.  Perhaps, same settlements he will one day bulldoze., orders of Hussein Obama?    I am very depressed about situation in Israel and I will not make aliyah until it changes.  Also, as long as the IDF participates in throwing Jews out of their home or arresting Jews for praying in the holy places now reserved for the Islamofacists, I will not be part of that military.  I rather not spend the rest of my life rotting in Israeli prisons for refusing to throw Jews out of there home.  No, I will not do as Adolf Eichmann and follow such tyrannical orders against my own people, even!

Sad to say, but things are looking grim.  I am thinking of wanting to encourage Jews to move away from all the evils of society and perhaps starting a fortified mountain community in one of the American free-states, such as Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, etc.    Why do Jews always congregate in small little areas surrounded by enemies and allow themselves to be disarmed?

Tel Aviv, New York City, Chicago are all cities where Jews are not allowed to own guns (Chicago, perhaps best of the three) and have the highest number of Jewish populations in the world. 

Sad that Eretz Yisrael is runned by criminal, fascist, self-hating European-puppets.  I hope one day these traitors can get the reward they deserve.  Israel needs a serious revolution!  First, from the criminals in our own government.  Then, Israel's enemies need to be crushed!  This includes Iran, Mitzraim , Syria and Lebanon.   Once these pigs are humbled and conquered , the Saudis and the rest of the jihadi sand scum will better kiss up or prepare for there imminent demise. 

Chabad Kahanist.. What is the green zone?  Do you mean the Settlements?  Every Jew should have the right to own and carry guns anywhere they please!  Sorry, I trust my life more in my own hands, then depending on some 18 year old girl who is a few minutes away to come running to my rescue when seconds count.  Making Aliyah means I have to give up my guns or be forced to live in a certain small area in a country that already is very small. 


In the end, Rabbi Kahane was wise..  Every Jew Must Be Armed!   Maybe, he took it from Thomas Jefferson, a man I wish could be resurrected and help rewrite Israel's Constitution.

The "green line"  is the  line between Pre 1967 Israel & the liberated territories.
In pre 1967 Israel is almost impossible to get a gun in the territories it is a bit easier.
My son in law & his friends all have legal guns in Gush Etzion.

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

It is obvious that Israeli gun confiscation is for one purpose--to protect Arab Nazis from their Jewish victims.

[angryChineseKahanist]

I just told the world map-master about Israel's new location.

[angryChineseKahanist]

??

Israel is in the east, not west. Middle east.

[Every Jew AK47]

Good point Chinese Kahanist.. I said "Western World", because it functions more as a Westernized nation rather than a Middle Eastern one.  Shall we say, it is the glowing gem in a continent of darkness.    I've always thought of modern state of Israel as more of a European country with culture , laws and way of life.  However, I know there is traditional/religious element there that separates it from types Western nations as well.

Considering that almost all Asian countries, except for Phillipines and a few others , have some of strictest gun control in the world, so Israel has less strict gun control than these countries, like China, Singapore, Vietnam, etc.

I guess how the topic should have read is " Israel has Stricter Gun Control Than Almost Any Western Nation".

Canada, Norway, Sweden, France even bloody stinkin' England have less gun control than Israel.  Also, the penalties I hear for possessing an illegal weapon in Israel are extremely severe, unmatched by those of Europe or the USA.   As I said, I don't want part of my aliyah for me to spend the rest of my life rotting in an Israeli prison  because I tried exercising a right I had in USA, which I no longer have. 

[angryChineseKahanist]

Good point Chinese Kahanist.. I said "Western World", because it functions more as a Westernized nation rather than a Middle Eastern one.  Shall we say, it is the glowing gem in a continent of darkness.    I've always thought of modern state of Israel as more of a European country with culture , laws and way of life.  However, I know there is traditional/religious element there that separates it from types Western nations as well.

Considering that almost all Asian countries, except for Phillipines and a few others , have some of strictest gun control in the world, so Israel has less strict gun control than these countries, like China, Singapore, Vietnam, etc.

I guess how the topic should have read is " Israel has Stricter Gun Control Than Almost Any Western Nation".

Canada, Norway, Sweden, France even bloody stinkin' England have less gun control than Israel.  Also, the penalties I hear for possessing an illegal weapon in Israel are extremely severe, unmatched by those of Europe or the USA.   As I said, I don't want part of my aliyah for me to spend the rest of my life rotting in an Israeli prison  because I tried exercising a right I had in USA, which I no longer have.

knives are banned in the UK.
With obvious exceptions of course.

[Every Jew AK47]

Interesting .. I thought knives were regulated in the UK, not banned, because of London's very high knife homicide rate.  However, you can still own multiple firearms in England, whereas in Israel you cannot, unless you are in the military or living in small, confined areas of the country.  Even then, I bet owning a firearm still has its share of pains.  England certainly has the strictest gun control in Europe, but not as strict as Israel.

Anyhow, even if Israel had the least restrictive knife laws in the world, it doesn't matter to me.  I won't carry a knife as my primary weapon of self-defense, nor use a knife to protect my home from a threat, who most liked has better weapons at hand than me.

[angryChineseKahanist]

I said "with exceptions".
Such as for cooking.

[angryChineseKahanist]

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