Shock: Mom & Dad Planned to Have Sex With Their Kids Before They Were Born — and

[Confederate Kahanist]

Sick 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/15/shock-mom-dad-planned-to-have-sex-with-their-kids-before-they-were-born-and-did/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons

[Binyamin Yisrael]

I thought this was going to say that he had sex with his pregnant wife and somehow penetrated deep enough to the fetus.

This is even worse than I thought. There are all kind of sick people in this World. Who would ever even come up with stories like this?

[Mein Koran]

Death Penalty

[Zelhar]

Wow that ix beyond sick. How do thes pervs find each other is there a dating service for pedos and mothers who want their children mollested ?

[Rubystars]

There are a lot of sick people in this world. Sometimes babies are specifically "bred" for evil purposes, so they won't have birth certificates and aren't traceable as easily. There are babies born "off the record" that are killed, used in the child porn industry, etc. I'm just glad these particular people were caught. I wish the world wasn't so evil where things like this happen.

I thought this was going to say that he had sex wish his pregnant wife and somehow penetrated deep enough to the fetus.

I'm pretty sure that can only happen if you're a zebra (male zebras do that to abort the pregnancies of zebra mares so they can make them pregnant instead of whoever the other male was).

Human anatomy isn't like that.

[Every Jew AK47]

Why do you guys post these sick articles on here?? No offense, but seriously, do we even need to read this?? Yeah, there is incest and a lot of other sick stuff on the earth, but do you need to keep posting threads about this Sh*T!!!???

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Death Penalty

That's what the Torah calls for. We read about this at Mincha on Yom Kippur. Leviticus 18 lists all the prohibited relationships. But the death penalty for these relationships are recorded in Leviticus 20 which was not read.

All these relationships fall under one of the Noahide Laws. No adultery also includes incest, homosexuality, beastiality, etc.... In humans, both sides face the death penalty if it was consentual. In the case of rape, only the offender gets the death penalty. But if a man rapes an animal, the animal also gets the death penalty because it didn't live up to its potential. That means a lot of camels are liable for the death penalty in you know what type of countries.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

That's what the Torah calls for. We read about this at Mincha on Yom Kippur. Leviticus 18 lists all the prohibited relationships. But the death penalty for these relationships are recorded in Leviticus 20 which was not read.

All these relationships fall under one of the Noahide Laws. No adultery also includes incest, homosexuality, beastiality, etc.... In humans, both sides face the death penalty if it was consentual. In the case of rape, only the offender gets the death penalty. But if a man rapes an animal, the animal also gets the death penalty because it didn't live up to its potential. That means a lot of camels are liable for the death penalty in you know what type of countries.

Right there! You are talking about how animals are held responsible for the actions of man. This could help to explain how animals could repent in the book of Jonah...

All though, I disagree with HaShem that raped animals should be killed because of their evil owners...

[Kahane-Was-Right BT]

Why do you guys post these sick articles on here?? No offense, but seriously, do we even need to read this?? Yeah, there is incest and a lot of other sick stuff on the earth, but do you need to keep posting threads about this Sh*T!!!???

No one is forcing you to read every thread and link

[syyuge]

Absolutely deranged, perverted and inhuman.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

Right there! You are talking about how animals are held responsible for the actions of man. This could help to explain how animals could repent in the book of Jonah...

All though, I disagree with HaShem that raped animals should be killed because of their evil owners..

We don't do mitzvot because we want to, but rather because it's His will. We may find eating non-kosher disgusting but the real reason we get credit for the mitzvah of eating kosher is because we put aside our will for His.

I heard in a shiur that our attitude should be "I would like to eat pork but Hashem said I can't so I don't" and that there is a kosher equivelant of everything non-kosher.

[Rubystars]

All though, I disagree with HaShem that raped animals should be killed because of their evil owners...

I don't think this should always be the solution in the modern world. For example what if you had a pet horse that you cared for very much, and found out one of its caretakers you had hired to help you had raped them once or a few times before being caught. The animal isn't ruined and isn't trained to be that way just from those few encounters. Some vet care and gentle care to get them over being traumatized would be enough in such a case.

I can however think of a couple of reasons why this would have been wise at the time it was written.

First, imagine a stallion at one of those beastiality farms is trained to do unspeakable things to people who want that. Then the people are caught and the stallion goes to live somewhere else. Keep in mind that most horses are much more powerful than a human being. What if a child for example ends up being around that animal and the unthinkable happens? This is one of the dangers of "trained" animals.

Just like, you wouldn't put a bite-trained former police dog in a home with a toddler, you really don't want a horse that's trained to do those things around people that it can overpower (which would be most people) or to escape.

Another problem with a habitually abused animal being allowed to live is that other people who are in to that kind of thing and know about the animal will seek such animals out to abuse them again and again, which is cruel to that animal.

So I think that it really depends on the case. If it's an animal that can be dangerous, or an animal that is at high risk of being further abused it's probably best to put them down. If it belongs to someone who is not abusive and there was only abuse one or a few times then it's probably best to try to heal the animal and make sure it's in a better environment where this will not happen again.

[Ephraim Ben Noach]

I don't think this should always be the solution in the modern world. For example what if you had a pet horse that you cared for very much, and found out one of its caretakers you had hired to help you had raped them once or a few times before being caught. The animal isn't ruined and isn't trained to be that way just from those few encounters. Some vet care and gentle care to get them over being traumatized would be enough in such a case.

I can however think of a couple of reasons why this would have been wise at the time it was written.

First, imagine a stallion at one of those beastiality farms is trained to do unspeakable things to people who want that. Then the people are caught and the stallion goes to live somewhere else. Keep in mind that most horses are much more powerful than a human being. What if a child for example ends up being around that animal and the unthinkable happens? This is one of the dangers of "trained" animals.

Just like, you wouldn't put a bite-trained former police dog in a home with a toddler, you really don't want a horse that's trained to do those things around people that it can overpower (which would be most people) or to escape.

Another problem with a habitually abused animal being allowed to live is that other people who are in to that kind of thing and know about the animal will seek such animals out to abuse them again and again, which is cruel to that animal.

So I think that it really depends on the case. If it's an animal that can be dangerous, or an animal that is at high risk of being further abused it's probably best to put them down. If it belongs to someone who is not abusive and there was only abuse one or a few times then it's probably best to try to heal the animal and make sure it's in a better environment where this will not happen again.

Very good points.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

I don't think this should always be the solution in the modern world. For example what if you had a pet horse that you cared for very much, and found out one of its caretakers you had hired to help you had raped them once or a few times before being caught. The animal isn't ruined and isn't trained to be that way just from those few encounters. Some vet care and gentle care to get them over being traumatized would be enough in such a case.

I can however think of a couple of reasons why this would have been wise at the time it was written.

First, imagine a stallion at one of those beastiality farms is trained to do unspeakable things to people who want that. Then the people are caught and the stallion goes to live somewhere else. Keep in mind that most horses are much more powerful than a human being. What if a child for example ends up being around that animal and the unthinkable happens? This is one of the dangers of "trained" animals.

Just like, you wouldn't put a bite-trained former police dog in a home with a toddler, you really don't want a horse that's trained to do those things around people that it can overpower (which would be most people) or to escape.

Another problem with a habitually abused animal being allowed to live is that other people who are in to that kind of thing and know about the animal will seek such animals out to abuse them again and again, which is cruel to that animal.

So I think that it really depends on the case. If it's an animal that can be dangerous, or an animal that is at high risk of being further abused it's probably best to put them down. If it belongs to someone who is not abusive and there was only abuse one or a few times then it's probably best to try to heal the animal and make sure it's in a better environment where this will not happen again.

I'm against killing animals in the way you describe like when people kill their sick pets. I was only speaking about the death penalty for humans and animals in Halacha. This doesn't apply in the cases you mention because only a Bet Din can issue such a death sentence.

There are 4 types of execution in Halacha and the way they kill sick animals is not one of them.

[Binyamin Yisrael]

The four types of capital punishment

Before any capital sentence was carried out, the condemned person was given a drug to render them senseless. There were four types of capital punishment, known as mitath beth din (execution by the rabbinic court). These four types of capital punishment, in decreasing severity, were:

Sekila - stoning This was performed by pushing a person off a height of at least 2 stories. If the person didn't die, then the executioners (the witnesses) brought a rock that was so large that it took both of them to lift it; this was placed on the condemned person to crush them.

Serefah - burning This was done by melting lead, and pouring it down the throat of the condemned person.

Hereg - decapitation This is also known as "being put to the sword" (beheading).

Chenek - strangulation A rope was wound around the condemned person's neck, and the executioners (the witnesses) pulled from either side to strangle the condemned person.