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Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim

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The JTF Hebrew Club
« on: July 31, 2007, 03:17:18 PM »
"Chaim was discussing a Hebrew Club..." has been moved to the brand new board of the same name: The JTF Hebrew Club.

http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=7327.0

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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2007, 09:33:57 PM »
I'm thinking we need to categorize everybody's level of Hebrew here and figure out a way to pair people up and do this via internet. I assume that most people know how to read Hebrew before they speak it. I also had this on the same thread.

1. Don't know how to read.
2. I'm ok at reading but need more practice and learning.
3. I can read well with the vowels, but forget about it without the vowels
4. I can read it with out vowels decently but don't understand a single word
5. I can read it, but i'm so-so with speaking it
6. I'm a Hebrew master...can read and speak it like well.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2007, 09:34:40 PM »
I'm Level 3..I can help anyone on level 2 or level 1.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2007, 09:53:45 PM »
I'm level four. Today I learned that efetz means zero because I had to give a number to someone in Hebrew. Here is my hebrew lesson to everybody for today.

0 - Efetz
1 - Echad
2 - Shtyim
3 - Shalosh
4 - Arbah
5 - Chamaish
6 - Shaysh
7 - Sheva
8 - Shmonah
9 - Taisha
10 -  Eser
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2007, 09:55:18 PM »
It would be interesting if Chaim started each week's ask JTF with a two minute Hebrew lesson. I know I would probably learn something from it.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2007, 10:01:04 PM »
It would be interesting if Chaim started each week's ask JTF with a two minute Hebrew lesson. I know I would probably learn something from it.


Taisha! that's #9...aahhh...

ekhod, shtaim, shalosh, arba, khamaish, shaish, sheva, shmona, taysha, eser! woohoo!

Mention it on the ask jtf for Chaim to do a quick two minute lesson on Hebrew each week..something simple for the gentiles and secular Jews to learn.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2007, 10:22:42 PM »
I just suggested it. Let's see how this thread goes. I'm hoping it will be a good opportunity for me to learn a little Hebrew.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2007, 11:26:52 PM »
Can we convice Chaim to give all the Nyc Jtfers interested in learning hebrew an in person once a week class? I am sure Chaim would be a great teacher.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2007, 11:40:39 PM »
it's worth asking, but he won't have time to do that. nor would many of us be able to agree on a time.

the best way is to pair up. and then change partners when necessary.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2007, 02:15:43 AM »
Even if it is only once a month, it is worth having Chaim give a lesson.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2007, 08:15:16 AM »
Even if it is only once a month, it is worth having Chaim give a lesson.


no, but still...he will suggest an audio CD to learn Hebrew and that he would not make a very good teacher.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2007, 08:19:40 AM »
no, but still...he will suggest an audio CD to learn Hebrew and that he would not make a very good teacher.

   I actually think Chaim would be the best teacher. If not, he would be the most entertaining. That would encourage people to stick with it.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2007, 08:39:43 AM »
no, but still...he will suggest an audio CD to learn Hebrew and that he would not make a very good teacher.

   I actually think Chaim would be the best teacher. If not, he would be the most entertaining. That would encourage people to stick with it.

Yeh, but Chaim has a life and a very important job.  I'm sure he would love to teach us, but has to focus on other things especially to find a way into Israel.  I know that he would mention there are so many other Hebrew teachers in NY that are more qualified than him who can do it for all of us (but that can get expensive i'm sure).  I like the idea of him maybe doing a brief 2 minute lesson on askjtf...but...2 minutes a week isn't enough to be great at Hebrew either...just a taste..

Unless someone can come up with something better, i think that two or three people should pair up. someone at a higher level can help someone with something on the lower level and go on fro there.

HOwever, if one is goign to tutor, then he/she needs the proper material to tutor with. If i were teaching someone how to read Hebrew, i would take the prayer book and make that person read a certain important prayer over and over again.  And the thing is, you can't do that over the internet..it needs to be done in person.
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In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2007, 10:05:29 AM »
takebackourtemple :
Those are the female numbers:
0 - Efes
1 - Echat
2 - Shtayim
3 - Shalosh
4 - Arbah
5 - Chamesh
6 - Shesh
7 - Sheva
8 - Shmone
9 - Teisha
10 -  Eser

Male number :
0-Efes
1-Echad
2-Shnayim
3-Shlosha
4-Arba'a
5-Chamisha
6-Shisha
7-Shib'ah
8-Shmona
9-Tish'a
10-Asara

I/ME-Ani
You-Ata (singel male), At (singel female), Atem (more than 1 male), Aten (More than 1 female)
We-Anachnu
They-Hen (female), Hem (male)

Note : In hebrew the adjective is after the noun, for exemple, "the blue tabel"="the table blue"  :laugh:
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2007, 10:17:12 AM »
Ani lo efes :laugh:
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2007, 10:19:46 AM »
Ani lo efes :laugh:
Ata batuach ? (Are you sure ?  ;D)
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2007, 10:26:42 AM »
Kane  lo tzarich le targam ani mavin :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2007, 10:40:01 AM »
Kane  lo tzarich le targam ani mavin :laugh: :laugh:
Kol hakavod ! Eich lamadeta ivrit ? ve'eifo ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2007, 10:41:21 AM »
B'artzot ha' brit ve b'Eretz
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2007, 10:48:38 AM »
B'artzot ha' brit ve b'Eretz
Eize brit ? ata mitkaven le iton ha'aretz ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2007, 11:01:27 AM »
B'artzot ha' brit ve b'Eretz
Eize brit ? ata mitkaven le iton ha'aretz ?
Artzot ha brit  U.S.A
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2007, 11:15:29 AM »
B'artzot ha' brit ve b'Eretz
Eize brit ? ata mitkaven le iton ha'aretz ?
Artzot ha brit  U.S.A
ah, rak tziruf hamilim "artzot habrit" omer=USA, brit = Alliance .
Eifo lamadeta be'artzor habrit ?
ata yechol likro ivrit ?
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2007, 11:17:47 AM »
Kane
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2007, 11:21:22 AM »
there is no word for "is" or "are" in Hebrew either.

wow, i need a refresher course really badly. in high school iw as getting my grammar down pretty good, but my vocabulary, hand writing and spelling was horrendous.
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Re: The JTF Hebrew Club
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2007, 11:47:39 AM »
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
-Shimon Maccabee's answer to Antiochus VII Sidetes.

"When fighting monsters, be wary not to become one... When you gaze into the abyss, it also gazes into you."
- Friedrich Nietzsche