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Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« on: August 12, 2007, 05:19:17 PM »
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For Immediate Release ~ 2007-08-08
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ARMENIAN GENOCIDE DENIAL FUELS BOSTON AREA CONCERNS SURROUNDING LOCAL TOLERANCE PROGRAM
 
 
Watertown “No Place for Hate” Program Urged to Sever Ties with ADL, Following Genocide Denial Remarks by National Director Abe Foxman
 
 
WATERTOWN, MA – Boston area civil rights advocates have teamed with Armenian and Jewish American community activists in expressing disappointment and outrage at recent statements by Anti-Defamation League (ADL) National Director Abraham Foxman denying the Armenian Genocide and opposing Congressional legislation affirming that crime against humanity, reported the Armenian National Committee of Eastern Massachusetts (ANCEM). Foxman’s statements have seriously jeopardized the credibility of the Watertown “No Place For Hate” (NPFH) anti-racism and tolerance promotion program, with pressure mounting on its leadership to sever ties with its parent organization, the ADL.

The controversy first came to light on July 6th when the Watertown Tab published a letter by an Armenian American citizen that spotlighted Foxman’s recent statements opposing Congressional Armenian Genocide legislation. The letter asked the local “No Place For Hate” chapter to disassociate itself from the ADL.

Foxman's statements were from an April 21st Los Angeles Times article titled “Genocide Resolution Still Far from Certain" in which Foxman argued that “The Turks and Armenians need to revisit their past. The Jewish community shouldn't be the arbiter of that history. And I don't think the U.S. Congress should be the arbiter either.” The July 6th letter spurred a flurry of responses from Armenian Americans and others that were printed in the Watertown Tab. One letter, from New England ADL Regional Director Andrew Tarsy, defended Foxman, but was subsequently countered by a series of articles by local columnists Frank Mazzaglia, John DiMascio and community citizens expressing concerns about a loss of credibility by NPFH if it continued its association with genocide deniers.

In a letter to the Watertown Tab, ANCEM chairperson Sharistan Melkonian wrote, “Foxman's use of euphemistic language to deny the Armenian Genocide runs counter to the fundamental tenets of No Place for Hate… and also runs counter to the ADL's own charter, which, according to the ADL's Website, states that the ADL's `ultimate purpose is to secure justice and fair treatment to all citizens alike and to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens.'”

“For the parent organization of No Place of Hate, or rather the national director of that organization, to deny genocide, goes against the basic concepts of tolerance and respect for diversity the organization is working so hard to promote in our communities,” continued Melkonian.

Boston Globe Documents Genocide Denial Concerns

The situation intensified after an August 1st article in the Boston Globe, titled “Anti-Bias Effort Stirs Anger in Watertown,” where Foxman, again, in reference to Armenian Genocide recognition efforts, stated "We're not party to this, and I don't understand why we need to be made party." In response to a direct question by reporter Keith O’Brien whether “what happened to Armenians under the Ottoman Empire was genocide, he [Foxman] replied, ‘I don't know.’” He went on to note that "’I'm not going to be the arbiter of someone else's history,’" . . . adding that he does not believe that Congress should either.”

In her interview with the Globe’s O’Brien, Melkonian condemned Foxman’s genocide denial and stated that the ANC EM would “call for the Watertown ‘No Place for Hate’ program to sever its ties with the ADL unless it denounces Foxman's position and acknowledges the genocide.”

Watertown’s NPFH Co-Chairman Will Twombly, in response to O’Brien’s inquiries, stated that "Not to condemn the genocide and fully recognize it for what it was, I personally find inconsistent with the mission of No Place for Hate." He noted that his group would be asking “tough questions” of the New England ADL’s Tarsy. “At that point, Twombly said, the committee will decide on the best course of action, including the option of severing ties with the ADL altogether, effectively ending the program.”

In a subsequent August 3rd editorial, the Boston Globe called on the ADL to “acknowledge the genocide against the Armenian people during World War I, and criticize Turkish attempts to repress the memory of this historical reality.” Citing Israel’s close ties with Turkey, the editorial countered that “the ADL is not an arm of Israel, and whatever it does will not affect Turkish foreign policy.” The editorial concluded, noting “failure to acknowledge past atrocities will encourage would-be perpetrators to believe they can get away with them, just as the Ottoman Empire did.”

Jewish American Leaders / Activists Speak Out Against Genocide Denial

Amongst key community leaders joining the Armenian American community in expressing concern about Foxman’s genocide denial and its repercussions on the “No Place for Hate” program are Jewish American academics and organization leaders. In a letter to the Boston Globe, Jewish Voice for Peace – Boston Co-Chair Martin Federman noted that “Abraham Foxman’s contention that his Anti-Defamation League (ADL) should not be the ‘arbiter of history’ by acknowledging the historicity of the Armenian Genocide is at best disingenuous, at worst craven self-interest.” Federman argued that “if anyone were to sidestep the issue of whether the Holocaust really happened, by refusing to be the ‘arbiter of history’, Foxman and the ADL would (appropriately) be apoplectic.”

In a press release issued on August 5th, Boston University Professor Michael Siegel condemned the ADL’s genocide denial and urged Watertown ‘No Place for Hate’ to “sever its ties with the ADL unless the organization acknowledges that this genocide occurred.” A public letter from Siegel to New England ADL Regional Director Andrew Tarsy stated “As a long-time ADL supporter, it is with great disappointment that I write you today to express my disgust with your organization's refusal to publicly acknowledge the Armenian genocide, and in particular, your July 26 response to the recent controversy in Watertown, in which you refused to acknowledge the genocide, and instead, stated that the question of whether a genocide occurred: " was one to be resolved between the two countries -- Armenia and Turkey."

Similar statements of outrage have been spotlighted on a number of blogs, including articles by the Huffington Post’s Mark Oppenheimer and Jewcy’s Joey Kurtzman. Oppenheimer, in a July 10th post, argued that “for a non-profit like the ADL, which in fact has done important work to combat not just anti-Semitism but other forms of ethnocentrism and racism, to shill for Holocaust-deniers (yes, the Armenian genocide can fairly be called a Holocaust) is inexcusable. He should be fired.” Kurtzman stated that “It is a scandal of unprecedented proportion when one of the most prominent figures in our community, a man who claims to speak on our behalf, publicly challenges the historicity of another community’s genocide. Foxman’s ADL no longer represents the interests of the Jewish community.”

ANCEM APPEALS TO NPFH
In an August 3rd letter to No Place for Hate Watertown, the ANCEM noted that “affiliation or acquiescence with Mr. Foxman's unconscionable position on the Armenian Genocide seriously undermines the efforts of the NPFH—a leader in the fight against bigotry and intolerance in Watertown.” The letter went on to urge the NPFH to call on Foxman to “publicly and unequivocally renounce its [ADL’s] denialist agenda.”

An ANCEM sponsored community petition called on No Place for Hate “in keeping with its principles” to “ issue a public statement opposing Turkey's state-sponsored campaign to deny the Armenian Genocide and call on NPFH sponsor, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), through its National Director Abraham Foxman, to openly and unequivocally acknowledge the Armenian Genocide and support Congressional affirmation of this crime against humanity.”

Within days, the petition gathered over 300 hundred signatures. To learn more about the Foxman/ADL genocide denial controversy visit: http://www.noplacefordenial.com

"No Place for Hate" is a community-based campaign established by the Anti-Defamation League geared to bring awareness to and fights against anti-Semitism, racism and all other forms of bigotry. Some 50 cities throughout Massachusetts are termed “No Place for Hate” zones, and participation is growing throughout the United States, including: Austin, TX; Denver, CO; Houston, TX; Las Vegas, NV; Los Angeles, CA; New York, NY; Omaha, NE; Philadelphia, PA; and Santa Barbara, CA, among other cities.

The Armenian National Committee of Eastern Massachusetts is part of the largest and most influential Armenian American grassroots political organization. Working in coordination with a network of offices, chapters, and supporters throughout the United States and affiliated organizations around the world, the ANCA actively advances the concerns of the Armenian American community on a broad range of issues.
 
 
 
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 05:25:00 PM »
What does anyone expect from that opportunist?

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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 05:25:47 PM »
Not much from him
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 05:32:16 PM »
Well, let's be fair.

Foxman is only being logical.

I mean, sweet, wonderful Turkish Moslems would NEVER annihilate millions of Non-Muslims, would they?

Of course not.
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2007, 05:36:52 PM »
Well, let's be fair.

Foxman is only being logical.

I mean, sweet, wonderful Turkish Moslems would NEVER annihilate millions of Non-Muslims, would they?

Of course not.

That's because islam is a religion of peace, the arabs only want the 'west bank' and 'gaza', the government is here to help, smoking is good for you and Paris Hilton is a virgin.

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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2007, 06:48:33 PM »
I can't believe this thread. Are some of you actually saying that muslims enjoy conquest , pillaging, murder, mayhem and genocide ?

I'M SHOCKED !!  (sarcasm off )

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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2007, 06:54:47 PM »
Abraham foxman is a fat piece of drek. Don't any of you think his cholesterol is high enough for a heart attack. I hope it happens soon. Yimach shmo vizichro.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2007, 10:40:27 PM »
I've heard JTF speak of the Armenians vs the Turks, so Foxman clearly is just being his lame old self.  Civilzied people know that both attacks occurred, the holocaust, and the attack on Armenians.

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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2007, 11:13:32 PM »
Abe Foxman is just an evil piece of garbage. I guess we can call him a holocaust denier now.
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 09:04:46 AM »
I wonder if he was bought in complet with GWB and Dick Chaney by Saudis. Thats why he don't want to piss of pecefull and tolerant muslims.
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11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 09:06:52 AM »
good point it's very possible
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2007, 04:57:06 PM »
Foxman also supports Muslims over Christians in America.  He's so paranoid about neo-nazism, that he's willing to cooperate with people who want him dead.  Its behavior is 100% irrational.  He sees nazi behind every tree.

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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2007, 11:37:34 PM »
That guy's a dirtbag. These liberal Jews do it to themselves! Besides the ADL doesn't do what it says it does: stop anti-Semitism, it creates it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2007, 11:48:17 PM »
That guy's a dirtbag. These liberal Jews do it to themselves! Besides the ADL doesn't do what it says it does: stop anti-Semitism, it creates it.
Dead on.  A lot of "anti-semites" are simply tired of left-wing nutbags like Foxman.  They aren't really against Jews, but are tired of seeing so many liberal Jewish organizations.  The JTF is therapy.

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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2007, 01:43:00 PM »
The thing about the ADL is that it stands for nothing morally, it is full of double standards and hypocrisy.  The good thing about the JTF is that it advocates both right-wing values for America and for Israel.  The same cannot truly be said about the ADL, they are hypocrites.  Foxman wants the right to discriminate for Jews themselves, but for no-one else.  The ADL is behind many of the destructive movements in America, though, they don't do it alone.  Foxman is always the first to argue that racial discrimination is wrong, on the pretense that it discriminates against people based on the way that they are born, yet Foxman himself claims to follow Orthodox Judaism, a religion that discriminates based on the way people are born, labeling them as “Jews” and “Gentiles.”  He claims to follow Orthodox Judaism, yet he is the first to advocate left-wing pro-homosexual values that go against his own religion.  The ADL denies and advertises genocides not based on truth, but whether or not it advances what they view as their own interests.  The ADL denies the Armenian genocide…but supports holocaust denial laws in Europe.  I myself acknowledge both occurred.  The ADL supports efforts to use immigration to destroy the ethnic character of America.  The ADL supports the rights of Muslims in America over the rights of Christians.  In short, the ADL isn't "anti-racist" it's anti-American and anti-gentile.  If every Jew was like Foxman, antisemitism would be understandable.  The moral inconsistencies behind its positions on the issues are so evident.  The ADL is a factory for antisemitism.  It produces more antisemitism than the worst neo-nazi website you can think of.

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2007, 02:21:23 PM »
The guy obviously well to do just look at him since he got his job does'nt look like he missed a meal
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Re: Abe Foxman supports moslems over Christians
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 04:20:04 PM »
He's as right winger as Horhe Wahabbi Bush; another Iluminati but jewish one; I once defended GWB and now I regret this too. ::) ;) 
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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