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Offline German Christ

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2007, 08:24:19 AM »
I've heard that some german schools have become complete zoos because muslim boys have ZERO respect for female teachers and there is a complete loss of control.

Exactly. Last year there was a really shocking case in Berlin. A tv station wanted to visit the school and immediatly when they arrived, a bin for rubbish was flying out of a window. The teacher were not allowed to talk to the reporters because the pupils forbade it. Women of christian or of course jewish origin where treated as [censored], no matter if they are teachers or pupils. Just girls with headscarf are respected. But this is just in big cities, in my hometown it's not so bad. Another problem is, that most immigrants have a low level of education and german with a high school grade emigrate because they can gain much more money in other countries. We have really big problems in some areas.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2007, 08:31:02 AM »
I've heard that some german schools have become complete zoos because muslim boys have ZERO respect for female teachers and there is a complete loss of control.

Exactly. Last year there was a really shocking case in Berlin. A tv station wanted to visit the school and immediatly when they arrived, a bin for rubbish was flying out of a window. The teacher were not allowed to talk to the reporters because the pupils forbade it. Women of christian or of course jewish origin where treated as [censored], no matter if they are teachers or pupils. Just girls with headscarf are respected. But this is just in big cities, in my hometown it's not so bad. Another problem is, that most immigrants have a low level of education and german with a high school grade emigrate because they can gain much more money in other countries. We have really big problems in some areas.

Sounds like the same problem Americans have with blacks. The muslims can't compete with the smarter, better educated Germans so they become resentful. If you don't throw them out, you'll all be destroyed.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2007, 11:02:45 AM »
Quote from: German Christ link=topic=7808.msg69914#msg69914 date=
But this is just in big cities, in my hometown it's not so bad.

If you don't stop it now, it will become just as bad in your hometown.  The cities always degenerate first, but the degeneration cannot be contained and moving further away isn't the way to stop it.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2007, 01:19:13 PM »
Yeah you are right.
90 percent of the turkish children are in our lowest school level, I just know about 2 or 3 ones in the medium or high level. One reason for this is, that the parents denie to speak German. Always turkish even on the streets. It's awful.

I know, first the cities and then the rest. The problem is that Germany is in an advanced status. Not just the cities, there are already lots of turkish people on the country. It really depends on the village you are living in. Another very big problem is, that if you want to vote against mass-immigration you are a) a racist for your friend and teachers and b) you just can vote for the NPD which is against Israel and supports Achmadinedschad in Iran.  But there is a bit of hope because this year a famous newspaper writer is going to install a new conservative anti-islamistic party. But I don't think they will have a lot of success.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2007, 04:06:51 AM »
I'll throw my two cents: I'll never forget the mayhen and slaughter the nazi Germany caused to to my jewish and christian compatriots; and I don't like the historic revisionism painting the Germans as victims of Nazism and WWII, but sixty years after this events we should try to forgive. The greatest threat to Jewish people and western civilisation now is  the Islamic tide. The german  goverment decision to send only ships to Lebanon was tactfull and frankly Speaking we're so aout numbered that any help counts. Welcome to forum.
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2007, 07:06:15 PM »
A number of the Gedolim including Rabbi Kahane zt'l hy'd wanted a 500 year ban on Jewish contact with Germany. In fact it was part of the Kach platform to cut ties between Israel and Germany.

There can be no forgiveness ever for that accursed people.
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2007, 09:51:37 PM »
kahaneloyalist:

There are opinions that say that we don't know who Amalek is, and that Amalek is someone else in every generation. So for example, the Germans were Amalek during WW2, but they are not necessarily today's Amalek as well.

GermanChrist:

Welcome to the forum! Hope to read some more of your interesting posts.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2007, 10:20:25 PM »
Hallo, GC, Wilkommen zu der JTF, es tut mir leid dass, mein Deutsch ist nicht gut weil, ich ein Englander bin.

Just for the refferrence of certain members of this forum, I ahve mentioned previously that I have some Jewish blood in my veins, I also have German blood in my veins, from both sides of my family, 100 years back on one side, and mixed with Jewish blood on the other side, but if you are going to discriminate against GC for being German, you'll have to discriminate against me as well.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2007, 10:22:53 PM »
Put it this way.  I'm new here, but if we start insulting Germans, odds are they'll become angry.  There will be a backlash.  Maybe they will turn nazi.

If a German is supporting you, the pragmatic thing to do is to accept it.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2007, 03:33:41 AM »
Torah Jews dont do what is pragmatic we do what is right, and I am not afraid of that accursed nation. I will not take that blood soaked hand.
"For it is through the mercy of fools that all Justice is lost"
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« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2007, 07:41:13 AM »
Torah Jews dont do what is pragmatic we do what is right, and I am not afraid of that accursed nation. I will not take that blood soaked hand.
IMagine that your father or your brother murdered somone, and you were upset by this, how would you feel if people then acted as if you were the murderer?

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2007, 08:09:03 AM »
There is a difference between individual and national crimes, when a nation wars against the Jewish people is different than an individual murder.
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2007, 08:16:00 AM »
There is a difference between individual and national crimes, when a nation wars against the Jewish people is different than an individual murder.
Whatever my distant relatives may have done, it doesn't make me guilty.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2007, 10:03:04 AM »
Put it this way.  I'm new here, but if we start insulting Germans, odds are they'll become angry.  There will be a backlash.  Maybe they will turn nazi.

If a German is supporting you, the pragmatic thing to do is to accept it.

You can be sure that this won't happen with me. When I joined this forum I already knew that some people wouldn't want me as a member. That's ok and I understand why they don't want to have Germans in here. When I was young I saw the only chance to prevent islamic rule by supporting nationalsocialism. But this is not accurate. I tried to change the thinking of these so calles nationaldemocrats by argumenting why israel should be supported and by saying why Islam is the problem. But they are full on hate on everything jewish. I just had problems and I know who stupid these people are. They even support Achmadinedschad. Now I stay away from everything that has to do with these people. My politician aims are far away from those of nazis. As I know today these monkeys even prefer heathenish believes to christianity.

@kahaneloyalist

I understand your agumentation, but I think it's neither profitable to denie any work with Germans nor is it accurate. The best friends are former enemies. In Europe and unfortunately in Germany too, there's again a growing anti-semitism. If you want to stop that, you have to talk to the people. In Germany many adolescent classify Jews as arrogant. The new german generation wasn't alive when those bad things happened in the beginning of the 20th century. They don't understand the anger of many jewish people on Germany and why they want to have an own country. It's now the chance of achieving a good reputation in Germany, by talking and acting to prevent Nazi-thinking in the future. We need every country and every western people to fight Islamism. As I said before, there is no time to keep alive old enmities. It's time to work together. You don't need to forgive the German people, but you should respect my engagement for a free Israel, for a jewish-christian friendship and for a free world, if these are your aims too.

There is a German organisation "I Like Israel", which organizes an Israel day in berlin every year, where German and Jews celebrate their friendship together. Thousands of people take part in it. With a friendly policy between Germany and Israel it could be even more.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2007, 06:51:12 PM »
I believe Germans collectively did support Hitler, maybe because they were desperate for leadership, maybe because they were anti-Jew even before Hitler.  I also understand exactly where Kahaneloyalist is coming from, but every nation has its dissidents, and I'd rather cooperate with them than encourage them to switch ideologies.  I also understand, after attention was called to it, why some people became angry with this poster.  Clearly Germans were the aggressors, and whatever they got hit with was simply retaliation.  Innocent Germans may have been hurt, but collectively Germany caused the war and you can't blame the world for fighting back.  I'm however, not convinced, just yet, that German Christ is a "holocaust revisionist/denier," I think he may have made the statement with the intention of saying "not all Germans are bad" and not as much with the intention of denying Jewish suffering.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2007, 04:33:11 AM »
I believe Germans collectively did support Hitler, maybe because they were desperate for leadership, maybe because they were anti-Jew even before Hitler.  I also understand exactly where Kahaneloyalist is coming from, but every nation has its dissidents, and I'd rather cooperate with them than encourage them to switch ideologies.  I also understand, after attention was called to it, why some people became angry with this poster.  Clearly Germans were the aggressors, and whatever they got hit with was simply retaliation.  Innocent Germans may have been hurt, but collectively Germany caused the war and you can't blame the world for fighting back.  I'm however, not convinced, just yet, that German Christ is a "holocaust revisionist/denier," I think he may have made the statement with the intention of saying "not all Germans are bad" and not as much with the intention of denying Jewish suffering.

He was warned a few times but not repented; If he was an American maybe he woud have been judged less severe, but I do understand why the some people here are wary of Germans and/or have higher expectetions towards them; Even in my country Poland which was invaded first by Nazi Germany, when the ocupation was most long and brutal and where mayority of Shoah took place they're people who ddin't forgave them (germans) and Poles are christians; Jews are not suposed to love their enemies. Modern German EMPs had chance lately to support Jewish People by boycotting the UN sponsored anti Israeli conference about "right of Balestinians" hosted by EU parlament but they were "to afraid of muslim". Screw them. :P
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2007, 09:58:35 PM »
The Germans aren't contrite over what they did, sure perhaps individuals from that country are pro-Jewish these days and they are decent people, but as a collective, they are forever stained with the blood of innocent men, women and children. Germans also gave us other lovers of Zion such as Martin Luther (ym'shmo).
Any pro-Jewish, pro-Israel german can't in the same breath say that he/she is a proud german. To be a proud german is to be proud of your (in some cases, living) grandparents, the butchers of our people, ym'shmam.
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #67 on: September 16, 2007, 07:22:04 AM »
welcome,I think  ???
And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken perversion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed thee out of the house of bondage, to draw thee aside out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put away the evil from the midst of thee.Deuteronomy 13:5.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #68 on: October 02, 2007, 08:40:31 PM »
germans coming here are like trying to
do something for showing they're not NAZIS,
or at least that what they did in WWII
is forgivable, understandable...

Yet they still are NAZIS to this very day.

I again will let my Anger express itself.

(Where's the microphone ?  ;)  )

germany fully supported
NAZICROATIA,
NAZIBOSNO-MUSLIMS,
and still does:
"arte", which is a franco-GERMAN TV channel,
never ever speaks of the Serbian Deads,
may they rest in Peace,
from the ex-yugoslav war.

At the exact opposite of it,
"arte" is always ready to show, to display,
the so-called (NAZI)CROAT(S) "victims"
of "SERBIAN BARBARISM" !!!
This is not in the fourties,
but..............in 2007 !!!!!!

Not to speak of the way Israel is treated,
for "arte" has tears ONLY for the P...butchers.

germany was only good at slaughtering OUR Peoples, then.
Today, it lets NAZIMITATORS do the dirty "job"...
it works against the State of Israel also, or do I do any mistake ?

 :-X

germans do come on this forum also,
because, perhaps, they're genuinely afraid of islam
invading their country...

The few ones who are like that
should go and ask their SS grand-fathers.
They'd learn (anew) islam is a very valuable "faith",
and this very "faith" has rendered sooo maaany services
to germany, during the (INFAMOUS) times when
EVERY SINGLE GERMAN COULD COUNT ON ISLAM.

 >:(

NAZIMUSLIMONGRELS NEVER FORGOT THAT,
YOU CAN SEE THEM THANKFUL_FOREVER_
TO GERMANY, FROM BOSNO-CROATIA TO P.

THEY ARE THANKFUL............FOREVER, TOWARDS THE GERMANS.

RABBI KAHANE AND, AT LEAST, I,
ARE SICK-TO-THE-BONE FROM THE GERMANS, FOREVER ALSO,
WITH EXCELLENT (in fact, sad that there's no saddest) REASONS.

500 YEARS IS NOT ENOUGH.

 >:(

I would once again invite my Jewish Comrades
to take a drink,
some popcorn,
then a good seat...

....and to FEEL SHEER JOY looking at the islamoturcization of OUR COMMON FOE.

  :) :) :) :) :) :)

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2007, 03:33:21 AM »
Turks in central Europe? More lance fodder for Polish Winged Hussars! ;)



 ;D ;D ;D

Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

Love your Enemy
And Heap Burning Coals on his Head!!!
http://net-burst.net/revenge/love_and_wrath_of_God.htm

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2007, 07:45:27 AM »
Ultra Requete,

I know it's not the topic, but,
did you know the Husars, as a fighting tactic,
are of Serbian Origin ?

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #71 on: October 03, 2007, 09:24:51 AM »
Lead by Polish King Jan Sobieski also had Austrians and another country i forgot
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2007, 09:36:26 AM »
Polish themselves called the hussars RACOWIE with a meaning RACOWIE-SERBOWIE.

From RAC, RASCIA, one of the two names Serbia had in the Balkan,
the other being ZETA (nowadays "monteneggro").

Serbian hussars came to Poland via Hungary,
where they were called RACZ,
always meaning the same
РАШАНИ, RAShANi,
from РАШКА, RAShKA
(SERBIA).

Originally, they were named in Serbian ГУСАРИ, GUSARI,
meaning something, at that time,
XIVth century, like "mercenaries",
which became in later Serb "pirates".

I'm sorry using the "hello from germany...(blyarks !!!!)" topic
for writing about the Hussaria.

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #73 on: October 03, 2007, 10:20:25 AM »
I didn't knew they're from Serbia, only that they came to Polish-Lituanian commonwealth from Hungary; but hungarian pattern husars were always light cavalery; and our hussaria were heavy shock troops the XVI and XVII century tank formations; I can only say that they beated a few germans (in Swedish service) too.
Here is pic of Polish Uhlan from the Napoleon's Old Guard killing Prussian husar:

here is something totaly off topic about Polish Uhlan lancers:
http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/Polish_Guard_Lancers.html
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Hello from Germany!
« Reply #74 on: October 03, 2007, 12:37:13 PM »
After the Kosovo Field Battle,
remaining Serbian Vlastela and Vitezovi (Nobles and Knights),
were engaged by Hungary as EXCELLENT HORSEMEN and FIGHTERS.
Hungary, until then, had a bad cavalery provided by cumans and other asiatics.
Serbs, then also called Racz by the hungarians (once again: Rashka=Serbia),
achieved successfuly their missions for the hungarian Crown,
and were very well famed.
No wonder Poland had an eye on them,
Serbian Gusari (Husari) came there, in Poland, where they would be called
RACOWIE/SERBOWIE by the Poles themselves.

Hussaria became Europe-spread cavalery.

 ;)

NAZICROATS do not agree with this..........
NAZICROATS do not agree (in public) they're the most evil nazis ever...........

 ;)

But History is History.
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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