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Offline Yerusha

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Golda Meir said that even more than a conflict between Jew and Arab, more even than a conflict between haredi and chilloni, what she feared most was a conflict between haredi and haredi!

Israeli generals are actually terrified of the thought of battallions of Belzer bombardiers, Satmar sappers, Gerer gunners, Slabodka paratroops, Breslov helitroops, Ponovezh minelayers, Sanzer bridgelayers, Lubavitch tankists, Bobov flame-throwers, Shas submariners, Viznitz voltigeurs and Mirrer missileers.

Despite the attempts to conscript the Haredim, who could make good soldiers, to the Israeli TPTB the spectre of Haredim with military skills is a thought that doesn't even bear thinking about!



http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/190802#.VNBtSJscTuE

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2015/02/blood-flows-with-more-rioting-in-poneviz-yeshiva-123.html

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Offline Kahane-Was-Right BT

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Re: Ponevezh Yeshiva in-fighting: and you wanna give the Haredim guns?!
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2015, 09:27:10 AM »
The video clip only reinforces the notion that these guys have been emasculated by the Kollel System.

Id like to say where you got that quote from. Kindly provide source and page number.  Somehow I doubt the wench said that.

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Re: Ponevezh Yeshiva in-fighting: and you wanna give the Haredim guns?!
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2015, 12:21:14 PM »
At some point the haredi will be the majority in israel and therefore have to fight. And therefore have rebbis who understand halakhic warfare and therefore soldiers who will live or die for Hashem. Maybe we will see it in our time
If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Ponevezh Yeshiva in-fighting: and you wanna give the Haredim guns?!
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2015, 07:19:35 PM »
At some point the haredi will be the majority in israel and therefore have to fight. And therefore have rebbis who understand halakhic warfare and therefore soldiers who will live or die for Hashem. Maybe we will see it in our time


I'm afraid they should be FORCED.  Convincing won't work.
.   ד  עֹזְבֵי תוֹרָה, יְהַלְלוּ רָשָׁע;    וְשֹׁמְרֵי תוֹרָה, יִתְגָּרוּ בָם
4 They that forsake the law praise the wicked; but such as keep the law contend with them.

ה  אַנְשֵׁי-רָע, לֹא-יָבִינוּ מִשְׁפָּט;    וּמְבַקְשֵׁי יְהוָה, יָבִינוּ כֹל.   
5 Evil men understand not justice; but they that seek the LORD understand all things.

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Re: Ponevezh Yeshiva in-fighting: and you wanna give the Haredim guns?!
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 06:26:56 AM »
If not convince them now, they will eventually be backed in a corner and have no choice.

If someone says something bad about you, say something nice about them. That way, both of you would be lying.

In your heart you know WE are right and in your guts you know THEY are nuts!

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Re: Ponevezh Yeshiva in-fighting: and you wanna give the Haredim guns?!
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 08:44:20 PM »
If not convince them now, they will eventually be backed in a corner and have no choice.

I don't believe that. 

Too many Jews have had it drilled into their heads that fighting is not Jewish.